Comments on: Jarvis Watch (2) He Brings In Mommy and Daddy!

By: Rashputin

Rashputin — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:22:51 +0000

Mel Michaelson – “Wah wah, blah, blah. I’m amazed that journalists allow vultures and cretins to control this narrative. How many of you have ever met a journalist?”

I’ve known a few even though most of them are now retired or gone from this world. I also have a cousin who is prominent in the business. It’s talking with people in the field that has led me to believe that if a journalist has no integrity, whatever else they have isn’t important.

The articles on this topic actually remind me of an old “Spy vs Spy” comic from Mad Magazine. Were it not for the fact that I do have some respect for Mr Rosenbaum, I’d think it was just vultures fighting over the corpse of the aviary keeper who bred them and raised them on the corpses of those he slew for cheap thrills.

Regards

By: kasper

kasper — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:40:06 +0000

The business end of journalism has failed, that’s true. The way people use media has changed. But to claim that’s the only reason for the failure is typical of the people still in the field.

I’ve worked in the newspaper business for close to 30 years, and very closely with journalists. I’ve seen the decline in character and skill of journalists. Most are activists now. Generations coming up in the business are increasingly incurious. They have poor critical thinking skills, have no basic knowledge of history or civics. They ARE quick to omit for the convenience of making a story fit an agenda and slow to recognize their own bias.

I’m not saying there were none interested in learning and working to get it right. But the vast majority contributed to the sorry state of their own vocation.

I would love to pick up a NYT and read it as I did years ago, but there is not much learning or pleasure from it anymore. Blame the failure on the business end if you like, but to deny that journalists are not part in their own demise is telling.

By: Evil Pundit

Evil Pundit — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:11:57 +0000

I’m amazed that newspapers allow vultures and cretins to do journalism. But the failure of the news industry is the inevitable outcome of that choice.

The more the readers know about journalists, the less they trust them.

By: Mel Michaelson

Mel Michaelson — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:50:18 +0000

Wah wah, blah, blah. I’m amazed that journalists allow vultures and cretins to control this narrative. How many of you have ever met a journalist? Ever worked as one? Ever known one? Jesus, most of your knowledge of an industry seems to be informed entirely by cop dramas and tired stereotypes.

By: Rubicon

Rubicon — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:44:36 +0000

Yeah, right! The Trib “journalists” would have exposed Blago’s activities! And I have some ocean front property to sell you in New Mexico, with private beach rights, for real cheap!

By: Renfield

Renfield — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:14:46 +0000

Jarvis makes his living being a well-compensated consultant to old-line MSM newspapers like the Newark Star-Ledger, which has taken the route of destroying its own franchise while terrorizing its employees. This charlatan even has the chutzpah to nod knowingly while his online idiots go on at length about how lousy the Ledger’s website (NJ.com) is, while never copping to the fact that he was the consultant who designed it in the first place. He is beneath contempt, no matter what anyone may believe about the cosmic merit (or lack of it) of journalists.

By: Brian O'Connell

Brian O'Connell — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:26:50 +0000

What an odd use of Pajamas Media: a rousing defense of traditional journalism, and in case that’s not enough, a call to pity those poor reporters and their families (at Christmastime!). I half feel that Charles or Roger need to come in here and pull a Palmieri. And the part where Rosenbaum goes all Glenn Greenwald with his resume was extra special.

By: Tao Te Truth

Tao Te Truth — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:52:40 +0000

Ron, are you seriously arguing that the editorial side has no culpability in the newspaper business collapse?

By: Rashputin

Rashputin — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:50:03 +0000

Mr Rosenbaum obviously knows what journalism should be, and yet we see that it doesn’t really matter whether he does on not. As Rome burns, “the media” bred journalists focus on who screwed up the secret handshake at the last fraternity meeting. After decades of training, those within the Profession Formally Known as Journalism seem incapable of seperating what is important within their own frat house from what is important to the mass of those they hope to reach.

Now, on to another article about “The One” looking good in Hawaii. (Hawaii is so much nicer this time of year than, say, Chicago where they have all that corruption and bad weather. Don’t you think?)

have a nice day

By: Ann

Ann — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:52:50 +0000

It is presently my intention to, from here forward, present the words “journalist” or “journalism” in quotes. Ain’t what they used to be, and there’s no telling what they actually are.