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Ron Radosh

The Biggest Cliche of All: ‘Hard-Liners Waiting in the Wings’

March 21st, 2014 - 10:36 am

Russia’s government, Bliven wrote:

… is being subject to extreme pressure to persuade it to move toward the left. … we have reason to believe that Lenin and Trotzky, (sic) in spite of the fact that they are regarded in America as irreconcilable radicals, are now regarded by many of the Russians as not being radical enough; as being almost “middle of the roaders.”

Indeed, Bliven claimed that waiting in the wings was “an extremely radical and bitter organization” in Petrograd, and that unless we did what Lenin and Trotsky wanted, they would likely gain power in Russia.

Bliven further wrote:

If this group should, as now seems very likely, gain control of the Russian government during the next few months, the results would be disastrous from the point of view of the allies and the United States. This radical group has only one purpose: the overthrow of all the capitalistic governments everywhere and the setting up of communist governments in their place. The radicals would reject any proposition to trade with Western powers. It is obvious that under these circumstances the allied governments would have only one alternative which would mean a complete blockade of Russia and unremitting war against its government. The amount of suffering which this would entail about an already anguished world makes it an alternative to be viewed with the greatest apprehension.

Bliven urged Harding to work with the “more liberal and even conservative group” led by Lenin and Trotsky that understood that even a communist regime needs to maintain relations with Western powers, and to compromise with them. This liberal group, he wrote, “is now largely in control of the Soviet government.”

Bliven recommended that President Harding be both “intelligent” and  “statesmanlike,” and act to “strengthen the hands of the liberals in Russia and prevent a catastrophe.” Recognition of the Soviet regime, he assured the president, would lead to the Soviets acting to “modify [its] scheme of things to a considerable degree” and would “almost certainly result in a victory for the liberals.”

Of course, Bliven told the president that he wrote because of his “patriotic interest in safeguarding the welfare of America.”

Harding, of course, ignored Bliven’s advice, and correctly continued the policy of non-recognition of the Soviet regime. As for Bliven, as the British conservative historian Paul Johnson has written, “it is not surprising that Bliven went on, in the 1930s, to become a credulous propagandist for the Communist-run Popular Front.”

Looking at Bliven’s argument from our present-day perspective, one can see how foolish and ill-informed his advice was.

The Soviet regime was at the time well in control of the first-generation Bolshevik leaders, led by Lenin and Trotsky, both of whom ruthlessly advanced Soviet power and crushed any possible opposition stemming from the remaining Mensheviks, anarchists, and even revolutionary sailors, soldiers, and workers who dared to turn against Bolshevik leaders in the Kronstadt rebellion of 1921.

It was the leaders who always were in control of Russia, not a mythical hard-line group waiting in the wings, that sought to advance the Red Army to Poland’s borders; worked in the West to foment revolt in countries like Hungary, where a short-lived Bolshevik regime under Bela Kun was set up in 1919; and did what it could to create unrest as far from its shores as possible, including support of revolutionary agitation in Britain and the United States.

Yet in our own day, the pundits who have followed in Bruce Bliven’s footsteps use the same arguments and analogies as he offered as advice in 1921, brought up to date to be used when deciding what policy to pursue with regimes like Iran and Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

When will they ever learn from the past?

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"The logic is clear: if those warlike neo-cons argue ... ... ... ..."

Ah yes, those "neo-cons" that some here at PJM hold in such high regard and esteem. Frankly their mere presence on any side of an argument taints that side of the argument almost to destruction. It may not be fair to others, but that's what it does.

Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki's cabinet recently approved Islam based legislation that would legalize child rape ("marriage" of men, regardless of age, to 9 year old girls). Was this worth the lives of almost 5,000 American troops, thousands of their limbs, and over a trillion dollars, that we don't have?

Well, ever brilliant foreign and military policy geniuses in your own minds "neo-cons", was it?
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I'm more worried about the hard-liners waiting in our wings.
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Muslim Brotherhood

Next!
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LOL, R.Radosh is still writing and there are people still reading him.
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"The logic is clear: if those warlike neo-cons argue ... ... ... ..."

Ah yes, those "neo-cons" that some here at PJM hold in such high regard and esteem. Frankly their mere presence on any side of an argument taints that side of the argument almost to destruction. It may not be fair to others, but that's what it does.

Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki's cabinet recently approved Islam based legislation that would legalize child rape ("marriage" of men, regardless of age, to 9 year old girls). Was this worth the lives of almost 5,000 American troops, thousands of their limbs, and over a trillion dollars, that we don't have?

Well, ever brilliant foreign and military policy geniuses in your own minds "neo-cons", was it?
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"those warlike neo-cons"

Warlike? You meant "chicken-hawk," of course.
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Notice only the argument is what they are worried about, they could care less about what the actually facts are.
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Like you could NOT care less about what the words you say actually mean?

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“almost certainly result in a victory for the liberals.”

I think we noted a dearth of Russian liberals in the 1918-1920 period.
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I'm more worried about the hard-liners waiting in our wings.
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"Regimes .. like Putin's Russia" - that argument about learning from the past would have more weight if these clever analysts took a hard look at the regime they currently support in the Ukraine because it's 'against Putin'.

Anybody with a PC ought to look up "Pravy Sector", and perhaps delve a bit into the past of "Svoboda", now led by the interim PM Yatseniuk.

I know from history what nazis look like, and I find it totally incomprehensible and actually sickening that the EU and the USA support a regime where these people have posts, like chief of security, or sit in a committee for media while going and beating up a TV producer, forcing him to resign - for the sin of having transmitted Putin's speech. It's on YT.

It would seem that some 'pasts' from which to learn are more important than others.
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the cult for nazism is well spread in these former sovietic republics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVe27bMouUM&app=desktop
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"sit in a committee for media while going and beating up a TV producer, forcing him to resign - for the sin of having transmitted Putin's speech"

Link?
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Thanks!
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