Are We Facing an Iranian Missile Crisis? The Dereliction of our Media
Now, not only does this agreement mean that Iran is a threat to our national security, but that its ally in our own hemisphere is as well. Hugo Chavez can appear to many to be an inconsequential laughing stock, a Castro-like figure living in a dream world of 1960s revolutionary rhetoric — but his alliance with the mullahs, and the existence of uranium in Venezuela that Iran desperately needs, gives him the ability to be much more of a local nuisance.
So one must wonder what response the Obama administration is preparing. To date, little coverage of this planned missile placement in Venezuela has appeared in the mainstream press. Is our country going to wait until the missiles are in place and the infrastructure is created in Venezuela for Chavez to provide the place for terrorist cells to lie in waiting until they are called into action?
Will President Obama proceed to make it clear — as John F. Kennedy did when he confronted the Soviets — that the placement of Iranian missiles in Venezuela is something the United States is not going to allow, and that such placement will be considered a hostile act that could make the likelihood of a major war more than likely? Or will President Obama make one of his “outreach” speeches in which he seeks to understand the motivation and outlook of Hugo Chavez, and tell the tin-pot tyrant that he has now read the leftist books he handed Obama a few years ago, and then urge him to engage in constructive negotiations that will persuade Chavez to not plant the missiles on Venezuelan soil?
Should Obama adopt the latter stance, he will quickly find that Hugo Chavez would find any call to withdraw the agreement his regime has signed with Iran an affront to the “Bolivarian socialist revolution” he has proclaimed. Chavez would only be inflamed to further escalate the dangerous situation.
Clearly, the time for the United States to make known its firm opposition to Iranian missiles in Venezuela is now, not a few years hence when they are already operational. But first, our country must be informed that Iran and Venezuela have such plans in mind. That means all our news outlets must join Die Welt in reports of their own.
Obama?! Uphold the Monroe Doctrine?! That’s like Yasser Arafat singing a sincere rendition of “Hatikvah” on al-Jazzera.
There is a reason why Israel is called the Little Satan and the US the Big Satan.Those seeking to destroy the western way of life understand that the way to destroy the ultimate target-the US-is through Jerusalem.
Therefore, anyone who thinks they can turn their backs on the Iranian Hitler’s genocidal designs towards Israel, because it is far removed from them, better think again.
This Venezuela war pact is designed for the US and will endanger EVERYONE-left or right!!Nuclear tipped missiles do NOT discriminate between Americans.Moreover, Europe is in their crosshairs too.
So, like it or not, the west better get its act together-FAST.
The proposed base is intended to be a sort of early warning in case of attack by either the US or Israel. If Israel attacks Iran the Iranians would let loose with these missiles at the US. If the US intends to attack Iran it would first have to take out this site. The early warning theory makes sense but what could they do against a couple of B-2s or a swarm of cruise missiles after their Venezuelan site is rubble?
It seems that Hugo Chavez really is as dumb as people say he is. Maybe the Iranians sweet talked this bozo with their 12th Imam nonsense? They are playing him for a fool; he is in way, way over his head.
But the missiles in Venezuela are not the only form of blackmail. The other is the Hezbollah cells that are probably already within the U.S. — and which are ready to carry out multiple simultaneous terrorist attacks if the U.S. attacks Iran. I have often wondered if that’s why we’re standing by and not doing anything.
http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/osama-bin-laden-is-dead-but-hezbollah-is-stronger-than-ever/
On the other hand, could just be Obama’s general fecklessness and/or treachery.
“So, like it or not, the west better get its act together-FAST”
Uh, yeah, but, the “act” in the west is just that….an act.
You ACT the part of concerned intellectual/politician/celebrity, and you go to the good parties…on someone esles dime.
Thats the gig. Thats the whole gig.
There is no competency in the “leadership” class anymore…anywhere
Its all an act, from the local board of supervisors, to the Hall of Deans, to the Newsrooms to the White House.
Fraudulent people, with no real skills other than a burning desire to be with the “in” set…
And they KNOW they can play their way in, because they KNOW its a sham…
Wink, nod, look the other way…member of the club.
Nobody rocks the boat, nobody is ever accountable.
Bad guys with missles and Nukes?
Count on a lot of press conferences, hand gestures, comittees, and focus groups, meetings and resolutions, summits and conferences…
But no real, concrete action….ever
“Weakness is provocative”
And Obama is weakness on steroids.
“And Obama is weakness on steroids.” Funny, but very true.
Obama is just as much a danger to the United States because of his passiveness and “outreach” to our potential enemies as are these potential enemies themselves.
This apologetic passiveness is due to his being so hopelessly over his head in the arena of foreign relations that his ears-back, tail-between-his-legs posture encourages our potential enemies to creep inch by inch forward under our tent flaps until they pop up right under our nose…as has this Chavez. I wouldn’t underestimate the danger of this Chavez being a close parallel to Castro’s Cuba of 1961…simply substitute “Islamism” where we used to read “Soviet Communism”.
By the time Obama has committed a “high crime” enabling impeachment proceedings to be considered seriously, it’ll be too late.
Obsequious liberal media blinders are a similar threat to American security. It’s a shame that the gleeful energies expended by the likes of the New York Times against the conservatives cannot be re-directed towards exposing the likes of Chavez and the Iranians.
Our American media are seeing and spinning current events so they appear as those images distorted by Fun-House mirrors.
And which politician has the kind of courage necessary to impeach the first black president? If they didn’t jummp all over hime for wanting to murder babies after they were born – they won’t dare impeach him. Better to become socialist first. Character is the real endsagered species.
The 0 is a poster boy for the “What, me worry?” crowd. Since the days of that most famous [infamous] of our Presidents, Jimmy Carter, the Donks have never wanted to “offend” those who opposed the U.S., and especially not those who opposed our status as a superpower. Chavez, Morales, Correa, Castro, and Amadinnanutjob are all on the same sheet of music, and serenading the 0 with their siren song. Unfortunately, he seems to be nodding his head in time with the music.
From an Iranian perspective, the Ayatollahs have wasted all our oil income on useless projects of their own, to become the bogymen the US needs now that USSR is gone.
Who could do such a fine job for the US? Unless of course the oil prices drop, and peace comes to Persian Gulf. Then the US will want to replace them.
We should do what Frank Pentangeli said in “The Godfather, Part II.” After there was an attempt to assasinate Micheal Corleone, Pentangeli said to Corleone, “Let’s hit them now, Mike, while we have the muscle.” We should really do this now to Hugo Chavez. This guy has been an annoying boil on the butt of South America for too many years now. I’m surprised the CIA still hasn’t encouraged some sort of revolution in that country to topple that regime. Well, if they haven’t, they should start now, before this issue spins out of control and becomes a major problem.
The only good news is that if we took out Iranian missiles in Venezuela, there isn’t that much the Iranians could do to retaliate. They don’t have ICBM missiles to theaten us with (yet) and they don’t have nuclear submarines armed with nuclear missiles, plus they are located far from the continental United States. Could they launch terrorist operations against us? Sure they could, but that’s always a threat from those insane people in Tehran. And we could really obliterate much of Iran if we really wanted to with not much retaliation from them.
But all of this becomes a different ball game if those missiles are nuclear armed and become operational. We would probably hit most of them, but there’s always a chance that we would miss one or two, which could mean losing a major American city to a nuclear strike. Now that may be a few years down the road, but why wait for that to happen? Like Frank Pentangeli said to Michael Corleone, “Let’s hit them now, Mike, while we have the muscle.”
The CIA was de-fanged in the mid to late 70′s thanks to the likes of Senator Frank Church. And that led to Jamie Gorelick’s infamous “wall” between the CIA and FBI that resulted in 9/11.
Frankly, I think we should overtly go in and take out Chavez but that will be for President Bolton’s administration to deal with.
Odummy, Biden and Clinton is not exactly a strong self-defense statement to the world on anything but the apology circuit.
A dream replacement would be a team of Allen West, Sarah Palin and John Bolton. Take that Hugo.
I dream on that same wavelength.
A couple of notes:
1. Vzla has been buying arms from Russia. To the tune of $4 billion +. Does Russia have a connection/interest with Iran? yes
Throwing Russia into the mix is much more troubling than letting Iran and Vzla flex their muscles.
2. Do not confuse Obama as weak, he is enabling with a purpose.
gordo 12-EXACTLY!
Russia is working in tandem with the Iranian Hitler & the madman Hugo.
While Obama eviscerates the US nuclear umbrella to appease Putin, Putin is a busy boy, as he builds Iran’s reactors and Hugo’s too.H E L L O ??
So, knowing that Obama’s education and strongest alliances have been with Marxists/Communists/Socialists his ENTIRE life, and knowing that he ‘hearts’ with the Brotherhood Islamists, isn’t it obvious that he is working AGAINST US interests on purpose?
Moreover, ALL his advisers are like-minded, and many in Congress are ‘sympathetic’-yes, they are. The media is in their ideological pockets too.
The next decade will be do or die…..
Let’s not forget the Russia-Venezuela naval war games conducted in the Caribbean, in ’08, and the deal struck between Russia and Venezuela, supposedly, for an innocuous, Venezuelan, nuclear power plant, in ’10.
No. We’re facing an American Hating Marxist, in the White House, who believes that “The Muslim Call to Prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world”, problem.
Yeah, scares the crapulance out of me too.
The sad and mind-blowing fact is that there has been a Marxist coup in this country. Most know this on a gut level, but are in denial — which is understandable. But the sooner people wake up to the reality, the better.
Except with Castro and the USSR, it was a deadly game of poker with two opposing, but rational forces as the players. There was always at the heart of it -a worldy goal to be attained by the high risk.
With these fanatics, it is a game of Martyrdom is the goal and self-inflicted death is both a benefit and a feature.
Obama will never have a “missile crisis”. What he will do is open up a “roadmap to peace” with Iran or Russia or Hamas or Charlie the Tuna. After all, he’s sure they won’t target him.
The key to dealing with Iran to to really try to see things from their perspective and constructively engage them from there.
At this time the leadership is divided because of a magical spell cast upon Ahmenijad by his sacked intellegence minister:
“The accusation that Mr Mashaie has put the president under a spell is more than rhetorical: friends of Mr Mashaie have already been arrested for sorcery. “I do not know if it is hypnotism, a spell or relations with yogis. But there is something wrong,” Ayatollah Yazdi said.”
In this case we are using the wrong assets CIA, MI6, and Mossad. What we really need is the Ministry of Magic. Harry Potter has already been recognized as a Zionist plot in the Iranian media. No doubt they are already being employed in controlling the weather. Press release today from Iran:
“According to reports on climate, whose accuracy has been verified, European countries are using special equipment to force clouds to dump” their water on their continent, he said.
By doing so, “they prevent rain clouds from reaching regional countries, including Iran,” Ahmadinejad charged.
Such equipment consisting of wands no doubt.
It is around 1400 miles from Venezuela to Florida. What is the range and payload capacity of a flying carpet? What if they export these stealth carpets to Hezbolla? Can they be countered with brooms? These are the questions we need the answer to and I hope Obama deals with that in his speech today.
You give new meaning to the term ‘carpet bombing’
Neat!
Compare the situation of the extra 200 millions of Soviets with the tremendous army and thousands of nuk rockets,ww2 winers with the 70 millions of Muslims with indefinite number of experimental rockets having no Bomb for the time being!
This Iranian gamble demonstrate the complite fail of Obama`s “Muslim World”`s policy and his international authority loss.
Why should we worry about nuclear war.
The real news is “Arnold”.
You haven’t been watching.
Don’t worry, he will do what he’s always done with tough decisions: he’ll vote “present”.
Obama is no JFK. This will not end well.
Missiles in Venezuela aren’t the ones we need to worry about. No, the real threat is the ones in Iran pointed at Israel. Why? Because any nuclear attack on Israel will trigger Israel’s nuclear wear protocol, the Samson Option. The Samson Option is a scattershot revenge plot against a world that hates the Jews by a people who come to believe they’ve got nothing to lose and millions of murders to avenge. It calls for nuclear attacks on the major cities of every major enemy of the Jews. This becomes our problem whether we want it to be or not. Sure, we can sell out Germany and ignore their pleas for invoking the mutual defense clause in NATO, even if we have to dissolve NATO to do it. The real problem is not the bomb intended for Berlin, but rather the one intended for Moscow.
If Perimetr (Dead Hand) is on alert when Russia is attacked, they will not care that the attack was initiated by Israel. They have orders to launch on first confirmed detonation if they can no longer communicate with Moscow, and once the control missiles are launched, the entire land-based Russian nuclear arsenal falls under the control of an AI and is programmed to attack the United States and England. Even Gorbachev knew that the SDI, as Reagan envisioned it, if fully implemented could not stop a Soviet first strike- it was only sufficient defense against a counterstrike after an American first strike had neutralized a large chunk of the Soviet arsenal. In other words, if Perimetr is triggered, there’s no way to stop it. Israel, if attacked with nuclear weapons or overwhelming conventional forces, has both the ability and the desire to start a global thermonuclear war. They will turn the other cheek a lot, but their tolerance has a limit. When their backs are against a wall and their survival is at stake, they will lash out like a wounded animal- in a blind fury intended to take as many of the enemy with them as possible. They’d build a doomsday device of their own if the Russians hadn’t already built one they could commandeer.
Remember, there is no military strategy will the Samson Option; it’s pure revenge for two thousand years of persecution. They have no intention of taking out military targets except those currently invading them. Given the choice between taking out missile silo or vaporizing Mecca, they’ll vaporize Mecca- especially if the attack occurs during the Hajj.
I have to agree with you Myth Buster..
I like to think that scenario will come to pass when the s**t hits the fan.
Sadly, most of the world deserves it.
If I gotta go then I’m taking as many of the bastards with me as possible, all who forgot that after the last war they all said “never again”
Ha. Thanks for telling Israel what their strategy is. Did the Israeli mossad put their secret moscow nuke inside a big Lenin statute or is it in a bathroom in the Kremlin?
Have you even been to Israel? atah medaber ivrit?
Hey – I read that book too!
myth buster,
Your appalling doomsday scenario does not mesh at all with what I know of the Jewish people. With the possible exception of the U.S., Israel has THE most ethical, self-critical, excruciatingly MORAL military in the whole wide world.
Remember Gaza? The fricking Hamas terrorists had been firing rockets on Jewish civilians year after year after year…. until FINALLY the Israelis decided it was time for it to stop. So what did the Israelis do? They made PERSONAL TELEPHONE CALLS to the residents of each area in Gaza that they assaulted, BEFORE they attacked, WARNING Gazans to get out of the way because they didn’t want to endanger any innocent civilians. In the entire global history of warfare, nobody has gone to such lengths to avoid hurting civilians.
To accuse that very same nation of making genocidal plans is close to a blood libel, in my opinion.
The Samson Option is intended as a deterrent. Still, if it were ever invoked, it would be invoked by a people who assumed that they were about to be wiped out anyway and wanted to make sure they take their enemies with them. It’s not blood libel to suggest that, wounded and enraged, the Israelis would do something desperate to punish the world for seeking their destruction.
Myth Buster: as an American who is a Strongly-Zionist Jew, who has lived in Israel on multiple occasions, I think your second “summation” of the so-called “Sampson Option” is much more cogent than your first. So first, allow me to compliment you on that.
However as people have said before you — and indeed, as you yourself have said, it is a deterrence. OK Fine. We’re still all in agreement here. But where we part ways is that while I do agree with you that IF it’s the opinion of the CIVILIAN commanders of Israel’s Military — the Prime Minister, ultimately — (identical really to the US structure of having a Civilian command that overrides any Military action if it wants)… IF it’s their opinion that the hundreds of nuclear tipped and “weaponized” (a key word here) are flying through the air before Israel has had a chance to set up it’s 3-tier defensive anti-Missile shield (ground to air missiles — “Iron Dome” is the lowest level, the next two are to come (they are VERY expensive)… if this is what the PM sees, knowing that his country will in fact be obliterated (although there are many professional war-games scenarios which predict Israel could in fact survive such an onslaught)… if for whatever reason though the PM thinks Israel will be obliterated — perhaps a wholly coordinated attack from Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas… I don’t know — my point (long delayed, I apologize), my only point here is to say that the Sampson option, IF used, would NOT be used against “other” nations — nations, for example in Europe, who were not directly and immediately responsible for the precipitating attack.
The so-called “Sampson option” is NOT as you suggest, a means to enact “revenge” on the persecutors of 2,000 years of horrible misery inflicted upon the Jews in Europe. It is, as you pointed out, a NARROW DETERRENCE against military attack, pure and simple.
Thus it would most likely be employed by the now many Israeli submarines lurking all around the Middle East to ensure destruction of the specific — that bears repeating, SPECIFIC, attacking countries who will no doubt be all, if not almost all from the Middle East. The only Non-Arab countries I can possibly imagine joining in such a suicidal attack against Israel might be Turkey (with Erdogan at the helm, anything can happen), and secondly the IRI who, or course are not Arab.
The Sampson Option is as you pointed out a “deterrence mechanism” — which works great against “rational actors,” but unfortunately fails against irrational ones like the ruling mullahs of Iran, especially those who call themselves “12-vers” and are willing to do anything to bring back the glorified Shiite messiah, currently in “occultation” at the bottom of a well in the Iranian city of Qom. It is worth noting that this is NOT a mainstream Shiite belief, this effort to lift the veil from their occulted child-messiah living in the bottom of a well in Qom
The Sampson Option has never been designed to harm the children of Nazis or their grandchildren, or for that matter, ANYONE living in Europe today. No serious Jewish leader holds the children of Nazis in any country guilty whatsoever for the crimes of their parents or grandparents. This has been clearly spoken, written, and laid out as policy many times in Israel.
Now I suppose if for some reason, HYPOTHETICALLY, the UK became so enraged against Israel that it joined in this mythical/hypothetical coordinated all-out attack against Israel with WMDs, then, yes, they too should expect a serious response from Israel.
But otherwise, as this is truly in the realm of fiction despite whatever anti-Semitism may exist in the UK, only those actual states (countries) from which nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons are actually FIRED at Israel in such a manner such as to doom Israel’s existence, should expect to receive the directed wrath of the Sampson Option.
Ron Radosh, Roger Simon, David Horowitz know…better than almost anyone else writing a single word on these pages what is happening here.
If any of the three of them would look back and close their eyes for one moment, imagine what decisions would be made by the inner circle of far left radicals…if they somehow grabbed the White House, the Senate, the courts, and the lapdog media. Throw in Hollywood and academia.
Imagine, if you will…the overarching desire to obtain retribution through redistribution. You despise Middle America. You loathe their “clinging” to Judeo-Christian belief systems. You abhor capitalism.
Your body aches for a revolution, the energy of the sixties. You want to destroy the military, the banks, …you want to tear down the system.
You have turned a dark eye toward Israel. Her destruction is in your gun sights.
Who would you believe were your “enemies”? Chavez and the mullahs?
Other revolutionaries are your heroes. Mao, Che, …you have posters of them hanging on your walls.
Now, open your eyes. Do you really believe that THIS administration and their slobbering lapdog media are going to lift a finger to strengthen America’s defenses against the Arab Winter Revolution and the red dogs that are in bed with them in Venezuela and Europe? Those called “enemies” on Spanish radio…were NOT either of these cretins. The “enemy”…is us.
An administration made of marxists will not do anything to stop Iran and/or Chavez.
They killed bin laden just because they couldn’t avoid doing it.
Vote every democrat out of office at every level, that’s what we have to do.
Amen, amen, Sherab! Simple, local civic involvement is the key to turning the country around.
Hope everyone here gets involved, check out the Precinct Project!
http://precinctproject.us/
If this Iranian missile base In Venezuela were ever to become operational it would be blatantly obvious why it is there. It would be just as blatantly obvious that a missile base in the hands of obviously unstable regimes—as in mentally unstable—such as Chavez’s and Iran’s would pose a danger to the US that could not be ignored even by the likes of Obama. If this base becomes operational it might as well have a ‘bomb me US, please’ please sign out front. This could be its real value: provoking the US into bombing poor, innocent Venezuela to help keep Hugo in power. Apparently, the Iranians believe they could get their money’s worth out of the project for pretty much the same reason.
OFF TOPIC
URGENT ALERT
FOX SAYS THAT OBAMA TOLD ISRAEL TO RETURN TO PRE-67 WAR BORDERS
HE IS SIDING WITH THE PALESTINIANS
Israel was very excited to find large quatities of high quality shale oil right under their feet. Possibly more than in Saudi Arabia. What they are doing now is working on a new, effecient, low pollution method for extracting it. If they achieve that the method can be exported breaking the grip of ME oil on the world economy. At the same time they are working on the new Better Place electric car system which could have the same effect as the cars can derive electricity from other sources such as natural gas. These are innovative, practical, achievable steps largely financed by the private sector.
Compare that to how Iran is run.
In the long run the oil economy which lets the lunatics who run Iran do dumb stuff like this, is going to go away one way or another. They are building nuclear plants on major faultlines. They are giving away their best weapons and do not even have a credible air force or navy to defend themselves.
Someday the Iranians are going to wake up and look their ruined crumbling country with its stockpiles of useless weapons and ‘allies’ who could care less about them and wonder what happened.
That ultra-liberal compulsively promiscuous drug addict Kennedy lost over Cuba
Nikita got want he wanted – a secure Cuba to use as a weapon against America in Africa and Latin America.
Havano delenda est.
When it comes to Muslims in Venezuela, you have to win the Bay of Pigs
b.o.is finaly pulling off the mask of being American and showing his true colors by throwing Isreal to the muslim pigs. I could not believe the media coverage of “letting Isreal stand alone”. Who are the “we” b.o. kept mentioning in the propagagda blather? I believe we are on the cusp of losing our only ally in the middle east. It is time to fall back and try to save the equipment, “winning the hearts and minds” did not work in nam and it won’t work in the arab areas. I am truly afraid!
Ronnie: there’s always a problem with historical analogies (you’
ve heard me say this before). This one is that the bellicose threat won’t work. Iran seeks the day of judgement and the coming of the Mahdi. Should the U.S. in neo con Podhoretz fashion threaten, the Mullahs in Iran (not the people) will say–in effect–and mean it: ‘bring it on.’ They will welcome annihilation. The Soviet Union for all its defects was still a part of the western tradition, and threats would work. I’m not so sure with Iran. Apocolyptic (sorry for the westernism here), is what they seek.
This is a classic “lights out” scenario.
They can fatally decapitate us with high altitude EMP bursts that do not require sophisticated guidance systems. Wake up America or buy ourselves 40 acres and a mule because we will be living in the 1800′s. This would safely place Russia, China, Iran and many others, in an exalted position economically and politically in the world without rival.
For those who hate America, your savior is near.
Anyone who does such a thing, would still be subject to massive retaliation from our submarines. A single submarine is equal to all of the Chinese arsenal!
Agreed,
But we would still be lighting candles and the Ayatolla’s would think they could ride out the attack. Who ever is left would be at an advantage.
“Indeed, the administration’s continuing willingness to put a negotiation track ahead of anything else, and to not do anything of real substance to stop Iran’s nuclear ambition reaching fruition, even to argue that the U.S. and the West can get along with a nuclear Iran — as we did with the Soviet Union — further emboldens the mullahs to continue on their chosen path.”
Except for Stuxnet. Whether that was the doing of Bush, Obama, or the Israelis who knows.
Why our media won’t cover Iran building missile basses in Cuba or why Obama wont do anything about it are great questions.
Yes we are under a missile attack,just like the Cuban missile crisis. Back then though we had a real president not a professor. But not to worry obama`s muslim brothers will protect you, except for gays, christians, jews, atheist,hindus and buddhist! We can all live together in peace and happiness. Except for any women they becomes sex slaves and house boys!
This is a real threat Iranian Al Quds forces in Latin America. Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the world, wants Death to the U.S.A and is becoming a Nuclear Power Soon. Iranian al quds are forging links with al qaeda. Is Obama going to wait until they start Nuking the West.
If Iran ever gets Nuclear Weapons It will not be a Second Cold War, but a nuclear holocaust. The leadership of Iran seek to bring about the coming of the Mahdi and end our Civilisation they must be Stopped by all means getting Nuclear Weapons.