Why Liberal Journalists are Joining the Obama Administration’s Attack on Fox News
And while Weisberg does not support a boycott of Fox — not that he or others could actually pull that off — he asks liberal voices on the network to “stop appearing on its programs.” One would think that he would welcome voices that challenge the conservative hegemony of commentators like Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol. But no, he specially asks NPR’s Mara Liasson to leave. (Why, I wonder, does he leave out Juan Williams, who will often counter to official liberalism on the issues of race, but who vigorously defends liberal positions on most other issues?) Weisberg argues that by appearing on Fox, liberals — of course he calls them “respectable journalists,” — only “validate its propaganda values and help to undermine the role of legitimate news organizations.” You know, those legitimate news organizations that failed to reveal that Van Jones was an unreconstructed Communist radical or that the FCC “diversity” counsel Mark Lloyd is a fan of Hugo Chavez and his control of the Venezuelan media.
Indeed, Weisberg’s criticisms are not far removed from those of Eric Alterman, who regularly covers the media for the left-wing’s key organ of opinion, The Nation. Writing in their Nov.9th issue, Alterman praises the Obama administration for “doing more to maintain the honor of the [journalistic] profession than are many journalists.” He too agrees that Fox is not a “legitimate” news organization, and Alterman cannot distinguish between a news program like that of their 6 PM report hosted by Bret Baier or the 7 pm roundup hosted by Shepherd Smith. So attempting to destroy or close down an “opponent” is for Alterman a legitimate response to positions with which he disagrees. One wonders what he would think if a conservative administration sought to do to The Nation what the current one is seeking to do to Fox News.
No, Alterman finds the administration “right on the merits.” Fox is partisan, and its on air reporters are “diminishing the work of honest journalists who try to play fair.” (Looks to me like Alterman is applying for a position on MSNBC, where the honest journalists hang out.) After all, they are not a “propaganda outlet” like Fox News. Fox is a place where one can find “all the crazies in one place,” again not like MSNBC, since everyone knows that Maddow, Olbermann and Matthews are sane, responsible and objective newscasters. Alterman is delighted that the libertarian John Stossel has left ABC for his “natural home at Fox.” Why, is he afraid that Stossel’s unorthodox and refreshing features might have influenced people to think who watched him on ABC, and now that he is at Fox, Alterman and others can now write him off too as a crazy extremist?
What really bothers him is that when some in the mainstream saw that there was actually a problem with a group like ACORN, they too started to give it attention. He is especially upset that George Stephanopoulos dared to ask President Obama about his views of the group. He likes Obama’s answer, that it “is not the biggest issue facing the country.” But he omits mentioning that Obama also claimed not to even know that the group ever got federal funds — although the evidence is overwhelming that as a candidate and before, Obama had a close relationship with them.
Finally, writing in The New Yorker in the Nov.2nd issue, the brilliant academic literary intellectual Louis Menand argues that Fox has cornered “the market on anti-Administration animus,” and he is concerned that the administration’s opposition “is not likely to put a dent in the ratings.” Indeed, as recent polls have showed, it has done just the opposite. CNN is losing its viewers at a rapid pace, MSNBC is way behind them, and Fox alone stands far ahead of all the other news outlets.
Menand argues that when Fox people charge that they have filled the administration “with Nazis, Maoists, anarchists and Marxist revolutionaries,” they are revealing that they are only “the voice of the fringe.” Look at Menand’s language. We all know that in fact, no one at Fox has made such an argument. When and where has anyone said that they are filling the administration with Nazis, for example? They reported that Anita Dunn told school children that she looked to Mao as an example. No one claimed that she was herself a Maoist. Can Menand name one person at Fox who has said that? Of course not. What he is trying to do with ridicule and made-up claims is to discredit Fox, since it successfully and accurately pointed to appointees who indeed do have a radical pedigree, and forced the most prominent of them, Van Jones, to resign.
Does Menand, I wonder, consider Marty Peretz, who took on Jones and his record at TNR’s website, to also be part of a “fringe” element? Peretz in his blog told readers about Jones’ background, and argued that his endorsement of Communism was indeed something for concern when held by an administration appointee. Is he too doing the job of Fox News? Peretz, I recall, was the man who once hired Menand to work as an editor and writer at TNR, before he became a distinguished professor and author. Since Peretz made essentially the same arguments as some on Fox did, does that mean Peretz is also wrong, or does it mean that those who made the case on Fox were correct? I would like Menand’s answer to that question.
Like Alterman, Menand too says that Fox “is a politically biased organization,” since it is run by Roger Ailes, an old Nixon aide who embodies partisan politics. I guess it is not like The New Yorker, whose objectivity is that of old fashioned left liberals like Hendrik Hertzberg, David Remnick and the other staple of conventional liberal editors at the magazine. They, of course, in his eyes are not “politically biased,” since bias is only the repository of conservative news organizations and journals. They are simply “objective,” as anyone who reads their continual paeans to Obama and their derogatory “Talk of the Town” comments on George W. Bush, neo-conservative villains and Republicans generally knows.
Menand, therefore, is tired of those who turn to places where they can get an “ideological fix.” He disdains “political spin.” Perhaps he should read Hertzberg’s report on J-Street, for example, in which he calls the group “the center-left alternative to AIPAC” and wishes it more power, or Hertzberg’s explanation that “everyone who studies the issue in good faith and believes that sick people who need medical care should have access to it without fear of impoverishment concludes that a single-payer system of some sort would be the way to go if our nutty eighteenth-century political system made that possible.” So if you don’t believe in a single-payer system, you are not acting or thinking in good faith. And this is just the truth, not “political spin.” Oh, and Hertzberg knows in advance what will happen if this took place. It would lead to a “Fox News-talk radio-led war against fascist communist socialist European redistributionism.” And that, of course, would really be political spin.
To his credit, Menand is upset that the administration seems to be singling out speakers “for the purpose of intimidating them,” instead of just rebutting their claims, as is its right. “At the end of the day,” he writes, “you do not want your opponents to be able to say that they could not be heard.” So far, of course, Fox News is being heard—now more than ever. But many of us are upset that it appears that the administration does, in fact, wish that it could be shut down, and its commentators quieted. Menand knows that the First Amendment is inviolable and must be protected. Why I am not so certain that were Fox News in fact quieted or suppressed, Jacob Weisberg and Eric Alterman would not be upset?






As usual, I stopped by to read your latest-with thanks , as I am given to believe that we have followed the same political “education-American style”…liberal out of an Ivy League background(me),grew up rooting for Chaney/Goodman/Schwerner crowd-talk about committment-something Hide-Behind-the-Dumpster Jesse Jackson should understand.Yeah right!Viet Nam,reality of Soviets,etc.etc…the intent of this message was going to be left@ Rosenbaum’s site-but, I have noted that he scrubs his site of anti-Ronnie retorts…yup, why bother with another thin-skinned “progressive”-so I do not.Fox is doing such a great job of stripping the rent&threadbare cloak of “good” that they drape themselves with, fraudulently.It occured to me that today’s aired polemics are NOT anti-American- as Barry Zero has implied.In fact, they are descended from the honorable Anglo-American trad. of pamphleteering made so very famous by Benj.Franklin( in England-1750s&60s&thereafter)Wm.Wilberforce,Thom.Paine,all of these-English speaking folks.Perhaps, Rosenbaum should write in ebonics,or better still, live in Chi-town with the rest of the grifting intellectual sheep.
A lot of the debate, if we can call it that, over Fox’s bias to the right is missing the point. There’s nothing wrong with a news outlet having a point of view so long as they’re up front about it. The readers/viewers can take it into account and judge for themselves.
Hidden bias, on the other hand, is highly manipulative and definitely suspect. Most of the MSM nowadays practices “accountability journalism”, as opposed to the old-school “who, what, where, when” style of reporting. This journalistic cult is sold to the public as a means of achieving depth and comprehensiveness when in fact the entire premise of “accountability journalism” is predicated on liberal bias. I suppose the real problem is that editors like Weisberg believe their own BS.
As long as liberal journalists, or as I call them, “Rudderless Revisionists” have this in common with the Sons of Allah: A – Those on the outside are not allowed to influence those in the group, B – Therefore only initiating is allowed by those in the group, C – The only options allowed to deal with the outsiders are 1 – Conversion, 2 – Dhimmitude, 3 – Execution.
Then we will see more of the same.
In other words, the vicious cycle will be perpetuated.
I hope this daft administration keeps upping FOX’s viewership ratings with their bully-baby tantrum attacks aka free-advertising for what they perceive as their opposition, because the more people watching FOX News the harder it is going to be for the nincompoops in the WH to silence them.
Can’t muzzle FOX, ya commie nutters.
Welcome to Israel, Mr. Radosh! The Hebrew media here is no different from that of the “liberal” media of the United States. Now it is engaged in a week long (at least) bashing of religious and nationalist Jews who are perennialy blamed for the assassination of Yitzhaq Rabin. It is not a coincidence that the big America Zero, the Dhimmi-in-Chief, is participating in the ceremonies, trying to make himself the darling of the “left” in Israel.
The difference between the two is that after the “hate-your-brothers” Jew-bashing is over in mid-November, things will get back to “normal”, and recognition of the fact that the Wahhabi-influenced scum want to kill us off will surface in the “left-wing” Hebrew media.
In the States, the “left wing” media will continue to push its bubble of illusions, and the American government will continue to openly act like the Fascist régime it is fast becoming.
Mazel tov!
Another great take. What strikes me most in all this is this administration’s(and its defenders’) total disrespect for the American public.
What the MSM fails to remember is this: when the media finishes with all of Obama’s bidding they will be cast aside. ie Venezuela.
I am sure that the likes of NY times, wash post etc. think that they will be the one standing when the dust settles. Not in the new world order.
FOX is taking a stand. Yes money is one of the reasons, however at least they are trying.
The more we all watch FOX, the less influence the Democrat/Socialist media organizations have on the country. Thus, we need to encourage all of our family and friends to TURN OFF CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC. All of them can’t survive because there aren’t enough liberals in the country to keep them all on the air.
These five liberal news stations are losing viewers because of their propaganda. Thus, they are joining Obama in trying to force people to watch them instead of FOX. Their very survival depends on it.
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC are as much to blame for the country’s march to Socialism as Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats. They need to pay with their jobs, too! We can make them pay by turning them off!
These aren’t journalists Mr Radosh,they are the lickspittling coutriers of an inchoate Stalinist regime.This filth wants to work in a future Obamanista version of PRAVDA, where their agitprop can be enforced through a thought police,and everyone experiences a thrill up their leg everytime the dear leader orders an execution.
Putting FOX commentators as mirror images of MSNBC’s ignores the styles.
Maddow, Matthews and Obermann are smug, sniggering, snickering, smirking adolescents.
Sorry about the alliteration, but it turns out all the English words that say what they do start with sn or sm. Not my design.
I left out scurrilous. At least it breaks the alliteration somewhat.
I don’t look at what is in Newsweek. I bypass it as I do the troll comments.
It is difficult to get fair news. There is no one I agree with all the time but I need to respect the writer for me to read them.
So the White House or reporters cannot state an opinion on Fox News?
Because that’s censorship?
Does anyone have any complaints regarding Fox News. OK. that’s no problem. However, where are the specifics? If Glenn Beck is supposedly a lying scumbag—might these accusers please point out his particular errors? These vague charges are doing nobody any good. The reality is that lefties like Eric Alterman and Jacob Weisberg inhabit a cultural echo chamber. Well thought out and accurate dissent is tacitly not allowed. It will be severely punished. Those daring to upset the status quo are significantly risking their careers.
The establishment flunkies are getting scared. They find themselves being marginalized. Their audience is shrinking on a daily basis. Their highly lucrative positions are being jeopardized. I have long been aware of the writings of Alterman and Weisberg. But I am a statistical aberration. Who else knows of their existence?
David Thomson@11:
“Does anyone have any complaints regarding Fox News. OK. that’s no problem. However, where are the specifics? If Glenn Beck is supposedly a lying scumbag—might these accusers please point out his particular errors?
”
There are web sites dedicated to the lies and distortions of Fox News.
http://www.crooksandliars.com
http://www.mediamatters.org
Dave K:
When the White House, the most powerful office in the nation, goes on an outright offensive against one particular news outlet by accusing it of bias, stating it is not a news organization AND refusing to give interviews to that ONE outlet, no: it’s not outright censorship. But it sends a dangerous message: if we don’t like what you report and how you report it, we’ll do our best to sabotage your efforts and marginalize your message because we don’t want the people to hear it. However, if you play ball, you’ll get all the perks of “membership.”
Our press is supposed to be a FREE press, which means they cover the happenings of the day free of interference from the government. Don’t tell us that the White House is not trying to interfere with Fox’s coverage. You don’t necessarily need to pass a law to do that.
ALL news outlets have a particular bias; some are more pronounced than others. I really wish they’d drop the pretense all together; it would make life a lot simpler. But when one is singled out and we are told that it’s the ONLY outlet that has a bias, something’s smells rotten in Denmark.
The President, and by extension his administration, is supposed to remain above such petty machinations. Just ask yourself this: if George W. Bush and his administration had tried the same stunt on, say, MSNBC, what would have ensued? I guarantee that he would not have been egged on by Fox or any other outlet, and that he would have been rightly raked over the coals.
Is it inappropriate to notice how many left wing Jews are in, or supportive of, Obama’s government?
The real wonder may be, how journalism or news organizing was ever thought to be unbiased in the first place. If someone can decide what news you’ll hear, they can decide what news you won’t hear. If you find that satisfactory, good on you. Thank gawd, Al Gore invented the internet!
@ 10. Dave K.:
So the White House or reporters cannot
state an opinion on Fox News?
Because that’s censorship?
Correct: When POTUS makes the comment,
which implies that FOX is behaving in
an (illegitimate=illegal) fashion, as
a political propaganda/advocacy organ,
and, by implication, can be shut down
under Federal law, that is a threat:
Shut up or I will hurt you.
See also:
“Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest ?:
12. oldguy:
“Is it inappropriate to notice how many left wing Jews are in, or supportive of, Obama’s government?”
Ask blotto and Curtis M, they have some very specific ideas on that point.
The journalistic elites are running scared. They sense that they are first on the list. These ignorant human beings have long scammed the system in their favor. The next group on the list is the morally and intellectually bankrupt Ivy League schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia. Their soft science graduates are generally overrated, politically correct buffoons. They are not worthy of respect. That is why Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Steyn, and Glenn Beck scare the crap out of them. Not one of these media superstars attended a so-called elite school. Steyn didn’t even finish high school! Bill O’Reilly graduated from Harvard University. Does anyone really believe that he possesses even half of Beck’s brainpower?
But, hey, it’s only “free speech” if it’s liked, right? Not what our founding fathers intended.
M. Report@15:
“Correct: When POTUS makes the comment,
which implies that FOX is behaving in
an (illegitimate=illegal) fashion, as
a political propaganda/advocacy organ,
and, by implication, can be shut down
under Federal law, that is a threat:
Shut up or I will hurt you.”
Interesting.
I did not know that the POTUS/CIC was not allowed to exercise his 1st amendment rights.
What’s the legal precedent that this is based upon?
The sad part of it is that a lot of these liberal journalists are jews and they in general give us a bad name (to all jews) in the world. Look at Grayson and his chauvinists remaks about women. Is that how Liberal Jewish men talk about their mothers, daughters and sisters? C’mom! I ask all Jewish men to man up to other Jews like Grayson and to stop supporting all these marxists ideology just because we are all rich and cannot deal with that. There is nothing wrong with being rich and ther will always be poor people around the world. These Liberal Journalists cannot seem to write about this kind of news. If there weren’t poor, how can the rich Liberal democrats from Hollywood make a movie like “Slum dog millionaire”.
Fox News is a subsidiary of Comedy Central, probably funnier.
Fox News is not “news” it is propaganda. no one denies their right to free speech they can speak all they want, but no one has to speak to them or listen to them. fox do not deserve any special mandate, no one should be forced to participate or watch fox news, which is what some commentators seem to want. would you seriously deem that we (or the president) must participate with Iranian government news Holocaust deniers, al quedia news agency, or the kkk or ron paul newsletters, or nazi propaganda? they all have the right to say what they want but we do not need to be part of their ideological propaganda.
“Fox News is not “news” it is propaganda.”
This is not an Ivy League university. You are expected to earn what you get here. Be specific. Please provide some examples.
Hitler would have been proud of Obama and his green shirts of today. Using the very laws that were passed to prevent his rise to power are now being used against the general public to stifle freedom. Goebbels would also have been proud to see this administrations manipulation of the press and those so eager to please. What’s next? Could it be the Obama version of Gleichschaltung, (coordination) where the government legislates contrary to the constitution? A new socialist Hitler is not only in power but using much of the same play book.
Read some of the history of the Weimar Republik and Hitler’s rise to power in the early thirties, it is a real eye opener to the events of today.
David Thomson@29:
“This is not an Ivy League university. You are expected to earn what you get here. Be specific. Please provide some examples.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com
http://www.mediamatters.org
There you go.
#18 David K.:
“Interesting.
I did not know that the POTUS/CIC was not allowed to exercise his 1st amendment rights. What’s the legal precedent that this is based upon?”
So, you have no problem with the attacks on FOX, none at all?
Noble motives and such on the part of the Obama administration trumps any possible “chilling effect” I guess?
Just another pathetic example of “free speech for me but not for thee”.
29. David Thomson:
“”You are expected to earn what you get here. Be specific. Please provide some examples.”
There are dozens of examples that have been provided here across many threads. Facts don’t matter to those who refuse to see. (The legacy of Fox News)
M23@26:
“The sad part of it is that a lot of these liberal journalists are jews and they in general give us a bad name (to all jews) in the world.”
Bon Jovi even wrote a song about it!
“Shot through the heart and you’re to blame
Darlin’, you give Jews a bad name”
In response to #29 David Thompson who responded to #28 Arthur:
“Fox News is not “news” it is propaganda.”
“This is not an Ivy League university. You are expected to earn what you get here. Be specific. Please provide some examples.”
That’s always the problem, isn’t it? Ask for examples and you get’ “well Hannity and Beck, blah, blah…” And when you point out that these are OPINION shows you get nothing else.
…oh and the Arthur compares Fox News to “Iranian government news Holocaust deniers, al quedia news agency, or the kkk or ron paul newsletters, or nazi propaganda.”
Arthur, please take your meds.
#32 N&T:
“There are dozens of examples that have been provided here across many threads.”
Why don’t you give ONE example from this week froma Fox News show. Shouldn’t be too hard – after all – its ALL propaganda.
Put up or shut up.
Ron, I find it jarring that we live in an age that took its lessons on the knee of “The Big Lie”.
This, of course, is detailed as lie so “colossal” that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”.
Today, we live with the leftist version on steroids. The cowards and liars that perpetrate the myth that there exists “fairness” and “objectivity” coming from ANYPLACE left of center on the political spectrum…is the bottom notch in deceit.
To suggest with a straight face that ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, BBC, Reuters, AP, NYTimes, LATimes, Washington Post, NPR, Newsweek, …or ANY other entrenched media outlet gives fair coverage of news events, cultural events, or even displays BASIC FACTS in an objective way…is to render the utterer a liar on its face.
I used to believe that this was somehow a case of blending myopia with utopia for leftists. They saw what they believed…then reported it.
I know longer adhere to such nonsense. With apologies to Bernie Goldberg, this theory is completely unvarnished, unmitigated BS.
To have these lying cretins and cowards suggest that conservatives and MODERATES… be left with two choices, accept outright lies and distortion…or be silenced about exposing them…is the biggest fraud and the greatest evil of our time.
Fox News may tilt right, but no moreso than ALL the others tilt left. And I will say this about Fox…at least they are not part of a conspiracy. They swim against the tide to be sure. Good for them.
I don’t hold particularly to any one side of the spectrum or the other. I have stood my ground on issues such as gay marriage, abortion rights, racism, anti-Semitism, and any number of “hot button” issues.
But, I came to those conclusions DESPITE…not because of…the despicable stranglehold the left holds on our information stream.
In fact, I am driven further right by these vermin that spread the offspring of The Big Lie each and every day.
I am a moderate by temperament, a centrist at times…and a fierce GDI always. But I am a warrior against the spread of unchecked leftism and filth it leaves behind. Leftists will look you in the eye as happened to you in spurring this article…and lie to your face without blinking.
That is a man with no conscience. That, is a man with no soul. That is a coward. And, that…is a liar. The spreader of the disease of The NEW Big Lie.
Bill OReilly is a Social Con Blue Dog Democrat.
Not that their is anything wrong with that.
C’mom Dave K. This administration is not helping Israel and our cause as Jews in the world. In Venezuela, they attacks us everyday. These marxists liberals hate religion and they will hurt even religious jews to get what they want. There are many conservative and hard working Jews who love the US and love to live in freedom. We need to man up to that small minority that tries to destroy our accomplishments in the world.
Why did my grandparents have to leave the Soviet Union to come to America? Marxists wanted to kill us. Stalin would have never allowed to have Troskie in power. This ideology and this attitude is not working and it is time for Liberal Jewsih men to man up and stop the abuse of power and the attacks on women.
i don’t think Obama wants to shut Fox down – it’s just so much fun to watch them complain about being criticized, rather than complaining about Obama’s policies.
Fantastic work on the part of team Obama. Let Fox marginalize themselves by claiming to be muzzled – which they obviously aren’t, since everyone can tune in. They keep bleating about how awfully Obama is knocking their “news” – and meanwhile Obama is getting actual legislation passed that Fox can’t cover because they are preoccupied with their self-pity party.
This is how you manage media, kids. Fox has lost their focus.
Peace.
DS
‘Next, he attributes the success of the many “tea parties” as due to Fox’s sponsorship of them—ignoring the fact that it was an internet created phenomenon- that Fox alone chose to cover when others ignored them.’
Well, Ron, covering the “tea parties” is one thing. Beck’s invitations to “Celebrate with Fox News!” are quite another. Fox News is Opium for the Asses.
bibio44@36:
“Fox News is Opium for the Asses.”
Fox News – Heroin for the Heartless.
As someone who reads Slate regularly, a Jacob Weisberg byline was all I needed to know that a piece of hack journalism was forthcoming.
To be fair to Slate, they do have Jack Shafer who is a reasonably non-partisan curmudgeonly media critic.
The funny part of this, as far as I’m concerned, is that the same people who are calling for Fox News to be singled out as partisan don’t think any other networks qualify for this title. I think you could make the argument that *all* the other networks are biased to the left, but let’s concede, for the sake of the argument, the three broadcast networks and CNN. Does *anyone* argue that MSNBC is unbiased? Last week I read that the White House had one of those gaggles where a bunch of reporters meet with a group of staffers who give them off-the-record briefings, or quotes that can’t be attributed to a particular person. Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman were both there (along with Maureen Dowd) but no one from Fox, because you see *Fox* is biased. I don’t believe any liberal can make the argument that Olberman and Maddow aren’t biased, but everyone on Fox is. It’s laughable.
re #16 Dave K
I checked out the two websites. Frankly they are little more than the left’s version of the old schoolyard taunt: “I know you are, but what am I?” It’s mostly a lot of ranting. No matter where one stands on Fox News, it is undeniable that the current fury was started by the White House – and (imho) it makes the Obama Administration look like whiners. The fact that other journalists are climbing aboard the “Bash Fox” train while ignoring the bias of their own newspapers/networks only points to their own hypocrisy. The journalistic Fox-bashers should beware, however. By giving the President an “attaboy” for attacking a TV channel, they invite the same attacks on themselves should they ever stray from the Party line.
It’s always a hoot to see the dim-witted liberals cite Media Matters, which has been caught in many lies and distortions.
Oh, and so has the Obama network, MSNBC. And these are the people who go to ‘The Globe’ of politics, i.e., HuffPo.
PS–Covering the “tea parties” is one thing. Deriding them a la MSNBC, CNN, etc. is quite another.
Liberals=useful idiots.
Well bibio44 (#35) and Dave K. (#36) are certainly adept at third grade name-calling but, as seems to be their wont, they are totally missing the point. We have a White House that has virtually declared war on a news agency. Trying to hide this fact behind cat-calls that FOX “really isn’t news” is both childish and, well, stupid. What is both ominous and disturbing is that the “mainstream” media (so-called) has been almost silent on this effort or even supports it. This is a massive sea-change in liberal opinion. Rather than holding the 1st Amendment inviolate as they have in the past, the elite media, liberal reporters and their academic allies seem to be trying to craft an argument that would allow the government to suppress hostile news coverage based on some evolving definition of “the national interest.” That “national interest” would be the progressive agenda advocated by Mr. Obama. Apparantly they have talked themselves into believing that Mr. Obama is just so darned wonderful that anything he wants, even selective limitation on free speech rights, is OK with them. Well so much for the old media bromide of “Speaking truth to power.” Lapdogs only bark when told to.
The complicity of most of the “news” outlets reflects the complacency of their audience. Power grabbers need compliance and sheepishness, which there always is plenty of. There will always those who run for cover, but still have enough ambition to occupy the available positions of shepherds for the monarch.
No wonder those who stand up also stand out! Somebody has to ask whether the constitution starts with the words “We The Lemmings“?
Fox news is more than a news outlet, although a really good one, its commentary is also the rallying point of the citizens refusing to be demoted into mere subject. Nice to see their ranks being joined by so many.
Would there be a Glenn Beck if none was needed? Would we read Ron Radosh if he had nothing to say?
The Nixon administration variously investigated, wiretapped and audited the income tax returns of numerous reporters
Dave K, Bibio 44 and David S. Why won’t one of your answer – what would you say if Bush had done this to MSNBC?
David S. writes: “and meanwhile Obama is getting actual legislation passed that Fox can’t cover because they are preoccupied with their self-pity party”
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What? “The Matthew Shepard Act”? Fox covered it. They’ve also been covering Pukey Pelosi and the health care crap sammich.
Self-pity party? Why should FOX be self-pitying when their already high ratings are going through the roof now?
About 2/3 of the way through this (sometime about when Ron was b/s’ing about how Rachel, Chris and Keith are such Objective and Balanced reporters), I ran to the bathroom, lost my lunch, and came back. I will now go back and check out the (without reading, but absolutely sure they’re there nonetheless) nonsense posts from the resident trolls David (peace boy) S., N&T, Mojo….Can’t wait to see the responses from the script reading jackasses.
Conservative Mom@42:
“Dave K, Bibio 44 and David S. Why won’t one of your answer – what would you say if Bush had done this to MSNBC?”
On May 19, 2008, NBC aired a piece that morning which “seemed to blame all of the Middle East’s problems on the President’s policies.”
Later that day, White House counsel Ed Gillespie sent a letter to NBC President Steve Capus accusing the network of deceptively editing answers Bush had given during his interview with Richard Engel “to give viewers the impression that he agreed with Engel’s characterization of his remarks when he explicitly challenged it.”
You lost me when you lumped in O’Reilly with Hannity and Beck and declared him far right. He is not. He’s all over the darned map.
RobertS@39:
“I checked out the two websites. Frankly they are little more than the left’s version of the old schoolyard taunt: “I know you are, but what am I?” It’s mostly a lot of ranting.”
Just look at the Fox News videos that they archive and make up your own mind.
There are thousands of instances of Fox News lying, which it’s their right under the 1st amendment.
And others have the right to point out their falsehoods.
Hey!! David S is here. How ya doin’, David?
I am surprised to see you post. I thought you might still be trying to help me with News Hounds. Remember? Yesterday, I was trying to find some examples that would help prove that, as you claimed, News Hounds was truly “non-partisan”. I was unsuccessful, but I was hoping you might have better luck.
No??
“But what you don’t deserve is another election governed by fear, and innuendo, and division. What you won’t hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics … that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize.” Obama, June 2008.
Only a few weeks later, Obama said, “They’re going to try and make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”
The Obama campaign’s first impulse was to attack Palin when she was chosen as VP, not congratulate the Governor or acknowledge the historic nature of her selection (when the previous day McCain ran a TV ad congratulating Obama on his historic achievement).
Of course, FOX News is just another enemy to demonize.
Obama is and always was a lying charlatan. Only stupid people have fallen for him.
Earlier today I posted this quote from Hannah Ahrendt on another PJM blog but it applies to this discussion as well ~ (also it may help explain why the true believers are unable to provide a satisfactory answer to Conservative Mom’s question @41)
” The disturbing factor in the success of totalitarianism is the true selflessness of its adherents; it may be understandable that a Nazi or a Bolshevik will not be shaken in his conviction by crimes against people who do not belong to the movement or are hostile to it; but the amazing fact is that neither is he likely to waver when the monster begins to devour its own children and not even if he becomes the victim of persecution himself…..On the contrary, to the wonder of the whole civilized world he may even be willing to help in his own prosecution and frame his own death sentence if only his status as a member of the movement is not touched.” ~
Origins of Totalitarianism (p. 307)
Walworth@48:
“The Obama campaign’s first impulse was to attack Palin when she was chosen as VP, not congratulate the Governor or acknowledge the historic nature of her selection (when the previous day McCain ran a TV ad congratulating Obama on his historic achievement).”
What was historic about Sarah Palin’s selection as a vice-presidential candidate?
Dave K. @ #14 “So the White House or reporters cannot state an opinion on Fox News?
Because that’s censorship?”
Hat Tip to PAM #18
“Our press is supposed to be a FREE press, which means they cover the happenings of the day free of interference from the government. Don’t tell us that the White House is not trying to interfere with Fox’s coverage. You don’t necessarily need to pass a law to do that.”
Right as well as Correct (to Dave K.) You must realize that; The White House is not “stating an opinion”, they are telling people that FOX has nothing worthwhile to pay any attention to. Fortunately for the White House, IDIOTS like you blindly obey. Quite unfortunately for them 90% of the people here tune in to, listen to and rightly TRUST FOX NEWS!
Oh, no, both ds and dk are here as well as the vile n&t.
Neither of you three m%$#*@ have shown us any independent sources that confirm your thesis that FOX News is biased. But Pew, Quinnipiac , Gallup and others all have covered the topic of the leftist slant to MSM. It is real and undenialbe except by you three dolts.
arthur #28 is another JACKASS.
“…no one should be forced to participate or watch fox news, which is what some commentators seem to want.”
Hey IDIOT…no one is FORCED to watch FOX. They just do in massive numbers, which is why Mr. President is trying to force people NOT to watch.
“would you seriously deem that we (or the president) must participate with Iranian government…”
No. In fact, I would prefer it if my president wanted no discussions with the Iranians. But alas, he wants to talk to the Iranians…..But FOX NEWS…….NEVER!!!!
You and the president are both JACKASSES.
#44
If the Bush administration was intimidating it’s detractors in the media with a letter, how does that excuse the present administration’s actions to squash dissent? Since the WH only complains about misinformation in press conferences and does not address specific claims, it appears to be campaign-mode maneuvers of distraction by this administration.
#50 Sir, you forgot to insert “stalinisT” before jackass when describing arthur. Cordially,deguello
If it is true, it is hardly surprising, since the very network under attack might be expected to come to its own defense.
Yes, and this extrapolated premise is at the heart of Fox’s bias. Its not that other networks aren’t piss awful–they all are, because they’re too wedded to govt. insiders, flak-averse, and enslaved to ratings. Both network and cable news are about as poor an example of news-gathering as the market allows. But Fox is in a whole nother ball park. While they make little effort to seperate reporting from opinion, they then have the pearl-clutching audacity to run up on a stool and scream whenever someone notices.
Mr. Radosh: Weisberg does indeed, have a problem:it’s called freedom of speech.His challenge is how to suppress it;he’s a stalinist,and descends from a long line of propagandists for totalitarianism.In another time and place, he would have been defaming Trotsky in Pravda,or egging Stalin on to kill more Kulaks.His ultimate goal is to shut down dissent by defaming institutions that practice it (FOX). PJM is infested by people who share his hatred of the first amendment.Stalinist trolls like the CASTROITE VIVO,NOW&THEN, DAVID S. and others, lumpen versions of Weisberg, would love to see us PJMrs in GULAGS to realize their demented Utopia. This filth must be put on notice:Trash the firts amendment,and the people will enforce the second to defend it.
If a room full of “journalists” from CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBCNYTWP were all covered in excrement, would any of them notice the smell?
Finally I get to laugh at moho’s post. MOHO my friend, I thought you were here much earlier.
Quote from moho: “…Fox is in a whole nother ball park. While they make little effort to seperate reporting from opinion…”
I guess perspective is a funny thing. I percieve Fox to be Balanced, while ALL the others (abccbsnbcmsnbccnnyouknowthemallicouldgoonforever….)make little effort to separate reporting from (their) opinions. Obviously you have a different perception.
We’ll have to agree to disagree.
What was historic about Sarah Palin’s selection as a vice-presidential candidate?
She was the first female Republican VP candidate.
Further, it guaranteed that either way, a ‘first’ would be elected in the 2008 election.
Fox generally breaks more stories than the other networks. Fox also kills in ratings – they have more libs watch them than the other networks. Why? Irregardless of the perspectives of partisan sycophantic fellow travelling unoriginal hacks like Moho and Now and Then, the average non-politicized American can tell who is doing their job. And in an era of three consecutive corrupt spendthrift administrations (each one worse than the prior) a watchdog, fly-in-the-ointment network is exactly what this country needs and is exactly what a “free” press is all about. Could I do w/out the heavy lip gloss; the over coverage of domestic localized crimes? Sure, but I’ll take a watch-dog over a lap-dog any day.
You understand nothing about Jacob Weisberg and Eric Alterman until realizing both men attended Yale University. These individuals have been used to their unearned privileges. They essentially don’t have any real idea what is to earn their way in life. Yale is a vastly overrated school that basically gives one a free ride as long as they are willing to bow down before the politically correct establishment. Their soft existences are severely threatened by the new intelligentsia comprising those who often didn’t even bother to obtain a high school diploma. They can’t stand the competition. Try to imagine an athlete who hasn’t done much of anything for years now having to really compete at a serious level.
54. donttreadonme:
“If a room full of
Rightwing Scat Alert – Right on Cue . . . the repressed demons continue to reveal themselves.
David S,
great to have you back. Is it hard to type messages from under Obama’s desk? Congrats on Obama’s legislative tour-de-force. The next time someone beats your a@@, you’ve got extra prosecutorial ammo in your little wuss arsenal. Sorry if this forces a response – that may cost you your next customer – Rahm, perhaps?
N&T,
Keep fighting the good fight for your Commie masters. Someday, someday, you’ll scrape enough devalued wheelbarrow full of dollars to move out of Mommy’s basement. Don’t listen to anyone who says that your Sociology degree and expertise in the mating habits of Brazilian rain forest pygmies won’t pay off in spades. If you need to run to the Daily Kos to refuel, I’ll stick around…
62 treadingalloveryou . . .
No Commie masters, no Sociology degree, no basement in Mom’s house, no pygmy or spades references, don’t go to Daily Kos, but other than that, you’re right on the money. Keep up the insightful analysis. Oh, I almost forgot . . . turd.
From #46 Paul from Hamberg
“Hey!! David S is here. How ya doin’, David?
I am surprised to see you post. I thought you might still be trying to help me with News Hounds. Remember? Yesterday, I was trying to find some examples that would help prove that, as you claimed, News Hounds was truly “non-partisan”. I was unsuccessful, but I was hoping you might have better luck.
No??”
I just spent a few minutes at News Hounds (I dont recommend it to others). It comes as no surprise to me that David (peace guy) S. considers it to be non-partisan. I’ve said it before about peace guy…It has no concept of reality.
Look, journalism is indeed going through very tough times, but not at all for the right wing talking point “reasons” most of you keep regurgitating. CNN and most other corporate media outlets ascribed as “liberally biased” have become lazy, sloppy, unquestioning and complacent, as Jon Stewart rather effectively and recently pointed out. Fox News trashes journalism in a very different way, however: they blatantly and systematically put a right wing spin on everything, so much so that if you rely on Fox News for national and international news, you might as well as be some TV and Internet-free hick living out in the wilderness in terms of what you actually, truly know. (Actually if I has to pick a new, more accurate slogan for Fox, it would be “Fox News – We Lie So You Don’t Have To.”)
And the Internet has not exactly helped matters, especially in recent years — you try to find hard info on any subject now and the chances are that you will have to wade through page after page of BS opinion to find anything actually researched, authoritative and informative, and you will have to be savvy and knowledgeable enough in the first place to recognize it when you see it. Take global warming for instance: for every serious scientific site you’ll hit on Google, you hit at least one site like globalwarming.org, which is a BS site. But how would you know if didn’t already know something about it already?
This Babel of news-like noise is probably one of reasons why political discussions have become so polarized — people are more and more working from different sets of “facts” depending on where they get them.
#65 bc
“And the Internet has not exactly helped matters, especially in recent years — you try to find hard info on any subject now and the chances are that you will have to wade through page after page of BS opinion to find anything actually researched, authoritative and informative, and you will have to be savvy and knowledgeable enough in the first place to recognize it when you see it.”
After which bc proceeds to link to one site which he/she/it terms “BS”, and another which supposedly proves that it is in fact BS.
I guess we should all be thanking him/her/it for showing us the light. bc said so, so it must be true.
spit
Let`s all hope CNN and MSNBC don`t go away. Otherwise, where would John McCain and Miss Lindsey go to get their mugs on TV?
Walworth@58:
“She was the first female Republican VP candidate.”
She wasn’t the first female VP candidate, so I don’t see anything historical about it.
And since her ticket lost, she’s now the historical equivalent of the first Portuguese-speaking Frank Sinatra impersonator to perform in Sweden.
If you cannot beat them, join them; or if you cannot beat them, use the govt. to beat them.
65: bc is right: if you don’t have the brain power to decide for yourself what to believe by wading thru conflicting claims in the internet, you are better off to believe the journo who decides for you what to believe. A proper lemming does not think for itself.
I’m more concerned about what happens when the Fossil media want a bail-out. Nationalized news media.
While we still have a free market in news, I’m willing to suppose that thinking Americans can recognize bias and lies. After all, Fox is doing very well.
Its not that other networks aren’t piss awful–they all are, because they’re too wedded to govt. insiders, flak-averse, and enslaved to ratings. Both network and cable news are about as poor an example of news-gathering as the market allows. But Fox is in a whole nother ball park. While they make little effort to seperate reporting from opinion, they then have the pearl-clutching audacity to run up on a stool and scream whenever someone notices.
I realize, from your writing, that you’re not completely literate Right as Well as Corrected, but I think what’s failed you this time is not your paltry intellectual skills, but your inability to perceive reality unless its contained in a comfortable dichotomy. Its quite obvious that what I wrote suggests all media is horrible–the word I used was piss-awful. Because you can’t imagine a world where you’re not rooting for a home-team, you had to delete the beginning of the passage you excerpted, in abject terror, I imagine. To suggest that Fox is the worst of the media bunch, is not in any way to defend the rest. Indeed, as bad as the rest are, they must maintain some level of credibility to function as “legitimate” news sources. Fox has never bothered itself trying to develop credibility, and its viewers certainly don’t require it.
So MOHO, what is your honest opinion about MSNBC?
Moho, vivo, Dave K, David S, Now and Then, biblio, (where’s BlanketyBlithering been lately?), are all over every one of the posts on this site. They all show up at about the same time on each thread, so it’s hard to tell how many there really are, or if there’s just one with a bunch of IDs.
They and others are obviously being paid full-time by Soros or someone else of that ilk in order to disrupt every conversation that everyone to the right of Hugo or Fidel tries to have. No one with a real J-O-B would have the time to infest every post on a site the size of this one, and I’ve even seen the same ID’s on other moderate to conservative blogs, trying to scum up the works there too.
Of course, being the civil people that conservatives usually are, we don’t outright ban trolls like this, since we actually believe in freedom of speech, while all their leftist sites ban anyone with a different opinion. It’s no coincidence that all the attacks against free speech on the airwaves, the internet, and talk radio are coming from the left. They will never be satisfied until the evil conservatives are all dead.
This is the Rules of Alinsky on steroids, where the ends justify the means. We really do need to start fighting back soon or it will be too late.
Someday it will all come out as to how this leftist organization works, who is behind it, and exactly how these clowns get paid. I just hope that someone on the right is in power when it comes out, so we can take appropriate action against these sleazeballs.
“They and others are obviously being paid full-time by Soros or…”
They are either being currently paid for their efforts—or minimally promised rewards in the future. They are the progeny of Antonio Gramsci. Pajamas Media is deemed important enough to earn such attention. George Soros knows how the game is played. It is rumored that he has even paid websites that are rarely visited $1,500.00 a month.
68. Dave K
I think she was the first REPUBLICAN candidate.
of course it really has no bearing on who is best for the position.
regards
Dave K @68
Your comment just further proves how idiotic you are.
David Thomson@75:
“It is rumored that he has even paid websites that are rarely visited $1,500.00 a month.”
It is rumored that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.
That doesn’t make it true.
Trigeek–>What is your honest opinion about literacy? Didn’t I say that the rest of the networks were garbage? Is MSNBC not somehow a network? Do you need a translator? My honest opinion about MSNBC is that as that even though they put out crap and pablum and are beholden to the same interests of the powerful that the rest of mainstream media are, the average Fox viewer would find the station too intellectually challenging to watch for five minutes without having their fragile brains scrambled. Oh wait, that’s my honest opinion about you, not MSNBC. MSNBC sucks. Next question?
They and others are obviously being paid full-time by Soros or someone else of that ilk in order to disrupt every conversation that everyone to the right of Hugo or Fidel tries to have.
Yes, its as obvious as the fact that Obama was born in Kenya, that congress wants to impose Nazi death panels, and that S. Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
Moho: I asked a legitimate question of you, and you come back with an attack on my intelligence. Since you think FOX is horribly biased, I was just interested on your take on MSNBC specifically (not generally). No need for some attack on me. If you can’t partake in a basic discussion, you need to calm down. See Alinsky Rules at work.
By the way, saying you believe MSDNBC sucks is not enough. Do you think they are biased to the far left, or is it because they are “beholden to the same interests of the powerful that the rest of mainstream media are”. I find this to be a cheap out for lefties. This way they can say they don’t like MSNBC either, but then lay the fault on the “evil corporations” rather than admit they are biased far left.
65. BC,
Holy Schnike! Did you…could you have…no…it couldn’t have been but, did you actually make an excuse for Rush Limbaugh being punk’d by the faux B.O. ‘thesis’?
Well, slap me sideways! I think you just did!
WOW. I never thought I’d see the day.
;p
By the way, saying you believe MSDNBC sucks is not enough. Do you think they are biased to the far left, or is it because they are “beholden to the same interests of the powerful that the rest of mainstream media are”. I find this to be a cheap out for lefties. This way they can say they don’t like MSNBC either, but then lay the fault on the “evil corporations” rather than admit they are biased far left.
I don’t think they are biased to the far left. If you can prove that they are, I suggest you do so. I think that they’ve identified their market as being people termed “liberal” [which is not synonymous with the far left any more than the word conservative is synonymous with the far right]. That’s the market they’re going after. Fox has identified their market as people who are actually on the far right, not conservatives. The nature of the cable industry market, means that you can “narrowcast” to audiences that are less than two million strong and still make a hefty profit. This is why MSNBC caters to “liberals” and Fox caters to crazed, ignorant and intellectually feeble loons.
Most true conservatives are turned off by moral preachyness, by values voting, and by the crazed mythologies that the far right need to maintain mental equilibrium. Most of all, conservatives that I know tend to be very ill at ease with the gleeful wallowing in ignorance that has taken control of the mainstream of the Republican party, such as it is. There is no programming for conservatives–Fox news is not even smart enough to be ideological, its just a complete clown show, hosted by caricatures.
MSNBC is owned by GE, which is the largest single spender of lobbying dollars in Congress in the US; they were the largest single spender of lobbying dollars to congress in 2002 and 2004 when Republicans controlled congress, they are the largest now, that Democrats do. They are no more a far left organ than GE is, nor could they be. Though both MSNBC and Fox are pretty useless when it comes to the kind of journalism necessary for a stable democracy, Fox simply insults the intelligence of the mainstream, left wing, liberal or conservative. Its only idiots like you that can tolerate it.
Lastly, you asked a simple question and I gave you a simple answer. Given your responses to my commentary, no insult to your intelligence was given, or indeed, seems possible. I think I pegged your level of intelligence perfectly well. If you want more accurate descriptions of your ganglionic intellect, keep on insisting that I haven’t answered your question, despite all evidence to the contrary.
To Delia: I think you took the blue pill instead of the red one.
The attack on Fox is a perfect representation of msm view of capitalism. The most recent census poll showed that Americans(refer to themselves as) are 40% Conservative, 36% Moderate, and 20% liberal. Fox News follows the money. They actually pay attention to their viewership. They know that this country is still center-right. The others can either fall in line or go away. Maybe NBC is counting on Obama dismantling capatalism. Cnn and nbc will be standing in line for the next round of bailouts. Fox is not biased, they are just a representation of a successful company. When Obama’s approval rating drops to 40%, the msm will turn on him.
85. dynomitejim,
When Ego’s approval rating drops to 40% there will be a new advantageous ‘crisis’.
To BC: Nahhhhhh. But, I’d advise you to switch sides of the mushroom and grow taller again.
Thank you Moho. You certainly do think highly of yourself. This quote says everything we need to know- “This is why MSNBC caters to “liberals” and Fox caters to crazed, ignorant and intellectually feeble loons”. We are the loons, but “progessives” like you are so brilliant that you think Socialism is the enlightened way. By the way MOHO, I dare say you know nothing about me. I could no doubt run circles around you both mentally and physically. All we loons want is to be responsible for our own well-being, and get the gov’t out of our business. Why is that looney? Last time I checked independent and entreprenerial was not considered looney; it was the lifeblood of this country. Isn’t is funny, those of us who are independent and entrepreneurial are considered sheep by the “progressive”. Stange world you live in friend.
By the way MOHO, I dare say you know nothing about me. I could no doubt run circles around you both mentally and physically.
Well, first, I didn’t claim to be progressive. There’s nothing in anything I’ve written, or write that claims that. Second, about running circles, etc…the former has already been established, but since you’re dumber than a sack of doorknobs, believe me when I tell you I take no pleasure in making you look like an ignorant idiot. As for the physical, we’ll never know about that, but in general bragging about your physical attributes on the internet is another sure sign of feeble characteristics in both mental and physical areas.
87. TriGeek,
The circular ‘logic’ of the Commie mindset is a never-ending merry-go-round.
The ‘nanny’ welfare ‘goody-goody’ crap has done NOTHING for black people in our country. People need to learn to take care of their own. THAT is how they will rise above poverty and out of the Welfare system.
As I said before, if we all take care of our own, EVERYONE is taken care of.
Of course, some realistic concepts go right over the troll’s leetle, fragile heads.
All I know is that there is more good political discourse on this website than in all of the MSM. We may not agree but in disagreeing we are uniquely American.
Let us pray that our ability to speak our minds publicly will not be stifled by a totalitarian regime. No matter our political persuasion, we must work together to keep our voices loud and strong.
I would miss the trolls, the hotties, the philosopher kings and the regular guys … each opinion has value. And keeps us free.
@83
Heh, pretty funny.
I did detect a bit of truth in there, though… if you’d stopped after your first three words people would at least acknowledge your honesty.
Malclave…
The first three words thing is okay if you’re 9, not so impressive to the adults amongst us. Its okay to admit you couldn’t understand what I wrote. I dare you to respond to even one idea anywhere in that comment. Pretty sure you won’t.
Moho- Typical lefty, refuses to identify himself (progressive, liberal, whatever the latest hip trend), but has no problem identifying conservatives. Moho, I gave you an oppotunity to explain what is so idiotic about be self-reliant and entrepreneurial? Instead, I just get, you are ‘dumber than a sack of doorknobs’. Do you understand how juvenile you sound?
I remember standing at the Berlin Wall looking across to East Germany. That was all I needed to see to understand the difference between socialism and capitalism. Moho, you think you are amongst the intellicual elite, but somehow, if you would been in the same spot, you would have seen East Germany as a utopia.
Delia ~
I don’t know if you saw this, but check it out
http://tinyurl.com/y96fypb
scroll down to #113
Cheers!
TriGeek@93:
“Moho- Typical lefty, refuses to identify himself (progressive, liberal, whatever the latest hip trend), but has no problem identifying conservatives. Moho, I gave you an oppotunity to explain what is so idiotic about be self-reliant and entrepreneurial? Instead, I just get, you are ‘dumber than a sack of doorknobs’. Do you understand how juvenile you sound?”
Progressive is better than regressive.
“I remember standing at the Berlin Wall looking across to East Germany. That was all I needed to see to understand the difference between socialism and capitalism. Moho, you think you are amongst the intellicual elite, but somehow, if you would been in the same spot, you would have seen East Germany as a utopia.”
At least Moho knows how to spell “intellectual.”
Also, Capitalism only refers to the accumulation of capital.
I believe you mean “free market”, which is an intellectual fallacy.
Here’s the truth:
CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, NBC, etc, all see the writing on the wall.
They’re losing so much money they know the only hope of survival is . . . BAILOUT!
So, kneel down if front of your New Messiah, open wide, and say “Give it to me, big boy!”
Thing is, after they get on the Obambi gravy train and are all on their knees slopping at the government hog trough, at some point Katy Curic is going to lift her face out of the gooey mess, wipe the rotten dregs off her face, look around at Chris “Dear Leader Gives Me A Stiffy” Matthews and all the others sucking up rotten garbage and say . . .
“Hey, this tastes like shit!”
Aside:
Deila, love you much. Keep it up!
Good job Dave K., don’t argue the concepts, focus on the misspelling.
Lets’ focus on something you said- “progressive is better than regressive”. Interesting, since progressive is a name created by the US communists to shelter their true identity. It sounds better. So in fact progressives are regressive (again the Berlin Wall example). Call it what you want, Capitalism/free market, has been the birthplace of all major science & technology advancements. Socialism, not so much. But you are smart.
TriGeek@97:
“Good job Dave K., don’t argue the concepts, focus on the misspelling.”
Just thought it was funny, that’s all.
Get a browser with a built-in spell checker.
Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox will do nicely.
“Lets’ focus on something you said- “progressive is better than regressive”. Interesting, since progressive is a name created by the US communists to shelter their true identity. It sounds better. So in fact progressives are regressive (again the Berlin Wall example). Call it what you want, Capitalism/free market, has been the birthplace of all major science & technology advancements. Socialism, not so much. But you are smart.”
Can you give me an example of a truly free market science and technology advancement?
@97, Dave Koresh:
“Can you give me an example of a truly free market science and technology advancement?”
How about . . . plastic?
Last troll response, ever, I promise.
Moho- Typical lefty, refuses to identify himself (progressive, liberal, whatever the latest hip trend), but has no problem identifying conservatives.
I don’t, you’re right. And as I said, you’re not a conservative. One can have an argument with a conservative. You’re question had nothing to do with our discussion, nor did I say there was anything wrong with it. I won’t identify myself using words lunatic fools like you have rendered meaningless, such as conservative, liberal, etcetera. There are currently no conservatives of any standing in the Republican party.
Banned by Huffpo@99:
“How about . . . plastic?
Last troll response, ever, I promise.”
The inventor of plastic was protected by the UK government military, the UK government patent office, and the UK legal system.
So, no “free market” here.
@97 David K
“Get a browser with a built-in spell checker.
“Can you give me an example of a truly free market science and technology advancement?”
Duh, I dunno, howzabout browsers with built-in spell checkers?
Now take it away, Einstein. I’m just bored enough at the moment to think it might be fun to watch you tie yourself into some silly rhetorical knot with the word “truly”
The Inverted router.
Invented by Oscar Onsrud in 1915. It was responsible for defeating European Tyranny during WWII.
Not something you learn in your troll textbooks.
good day.
“The inventor of plastic was protected by the UK government military, the UK government patent office, and the UK legal system.
So, no “free market” here.”
We are in complete agreement. Ludwig Von Mises, Milton Friedman, and Friedrich Hayek—and you are also on the same page. There is no serious advocate of the free market system who would disagree with you. A free market economy cannot exist without the rule of law and strong police and military entities. They go hand in hand. You cannot have one without the other. Whoever told you anything different?
David K says: Can you give me an example of a truly free market science and technology advancement?
Tell you David, try naming a science & technology advancement that wasn’t developed in the free market.
Moho: I am conservative, and I am not Republican. You are the one who always heads off in a new direction when the argument gets tough. So, if you are none of the way too cool labels, what do you believe in?
David K: You love ripping people who make typos, yet you admit to needing spell-check. So, in other words, you can’t spell either.
By the way, I know the guy who invented spell check, a free market idea!!
TriGreek – you’ll never get a straight answer out of Moho. Moho’s a self described laureate of all. Though his educational background is, what. Oh yeah, non-existent.
Moho makes an off-the-cuff comment regarding the atrocities of America’s actions to its female and black population from the 18th-20th Century.
Psst, Moho. Women’s suffrage is over. The riots in Harlem, Selma, Mobile.. they paid off. Just thought I’d let you know.
An MLK Monument has gotten the o.k. for construction in D.C.
Successful women, black folks to name a few: Condeleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Michelle Rhee, Frederick Douglass, George Washington Carver, as well as thousands of blacks are/ have been/ will be Mayor, Governor, Chief Justice, military leaders, successful mothers, fathers etc., in numerous cities across the country. We’ve got our first mulatto as CiC. All this and infinitely more in 230 + years since our country’s inception.
I suggest Moho research the ongoing atrocities of Muslim women for the past 1400 + years in the ME.. you know, as long as the Muslim faith has been adopted by the ME. Oh wait. Since getting ousted from Spain in the 14th Century, what has the Muslim faithful contributed?
O.k., I’m sure there’s no more consented slavery occurring in Africa, ME, Asia etc., right? Riiiight.
As for David S. ‘Fox has lost their focus’ comment. David S., Wolf Blitzer used ‘factcheck’ for an SNL skit poking fun of the Teleprompter-in-Chief! I believe ‘focus’ is an oxymoron for Wolf and CNN.
Wolf Blitzer also claimed one of Obama’s ‘accomplishments’ is being black.
Hmmm, I catch baseball with my left hand throw the ball with my right. I am a left handed writer yet throw a frisbee with my left hand. Perhaps that’s an ‘accomplishment’ too, eh Wolf?
MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow claims net neutrality is a way to ‘protect us’. For the ‘Government knows best’.. yikes.
Maddows even goes on to ‘report’ McCain received more Google donation cash than Obama… hahaha!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/How-Google_-Amazon-profit-from-net-neutrality-8444767-66582212.html
TriGreek – Many people don’t state their stance, affiliation due to being tied to that particular party’s views. In Obama’s case, he voted ‘Present’ 130 times when Senator to see where the favorable political winds blew. That’s why Obama is such an empty suit. Other posters have said and I agree that Obama’s a blank canvas in which his admirers can paint any spectacular thing of the man-child.
Though now Obama’s having to be firm in his, uhm, decisions. Thus the stalling on just about everything he’s spoken of accomplishing.
I liken Obama to the song lyrics of the Beatles, ‘Nowhere Man’.
As for me, I’m an Independent, for the Republican Party desperately needs to reestablish itself. When folks like McCain and Romney are the ‘poster childs’ for the GOP, there’s problems. Though I do lean more towards Conservative regarding most issues.
93. marymcl,
No I didn’t see that! Ha-ha! That was sweet of Gaffe.
Aww shucks.
Thank you for sharing that.
Gawrsh.
102. marymcl:
“Duh, I dunno, howzabout browsers with built-in spell checkers?”
Now take it away, Einstein. I’m just bored enough at the moment to think it might be fun to watch you tie yourself into some silly rhetorical knot with the word “truly””
Oh, you mean the browser technology based on a protocol defined by CERN researchers, running above a protocol defined by DARPA?
On top of hardware invented by DARPA?
Yeah, that’s a free market/libertarian success story right there.
No government involvement at all.
No, sir!
“he attributes the success of the many “tea parties” as due to Fox’s sponsorship of them — ignoring the fact that it was an internet created phenomenon that Fox alone chose to cover when others ignored them. Evidently, Weisberg can’t distinguish between paying attention to events it finds newsworthy and sponsoring them.”
I used this same argument about a Rick Sanchez clip on Little Green Footballs and was immediately told “Bite me” and then blocked by Charlie. I have read his blog since August, 2008, and was delighted to get into the group while on a business trip to San Diego. I was positive that Charlie and I were of the same mind – little government is good government. I still read LGF and have noted that there has been – or at least it seems to be – a political shift in his views. How sad. I don’t know what happened.
I still stand behind my initial premise. Sanchez’s network “covered” the Tea Parties in a way to ridicule them. He was biased. He followed his own agenda – Fox covered them and was not biased. Therefore, Fox was to be commended for its actions and Sanchez’s network not. I watched each of Sanchez’s news bits and each one was slimier that the next. Sanchez cannot show any pride in his lack of journalistic integrity. Charlie should be ashamed of himself.
TriGeek@105:
“David K: You love ripping people who make typos, yet you admit to needing spell-check. So, in other words, you can’t spell either.”
I was merely making a helpful suggestion.
Just because I think you might be better off using a wheelchair instead of crawling on all fours on broken glass like a dying animal doesn’t mean that I need a wheelchair.
But, yeah, I guess this is your way of thanking me for trying to solve your problem with multisyllabic words.
TriGeek@105:
“Tell you David, try naming a science & technology advancement that wasn’t developed in the free market.”
Nuclear technology, the Internet, every modern medical treatment, computers, everything ever invented in a university or college, etc.
David Special K.,
Who needs browsers without the INTERNET? -And don’t forget your own Commie/Cap-n-Taxer/Anti-Capitalist with a Ginormous carbon footprint ‘created’ the Internet!
~
95. Banned by Huffpo:
Right back atchya, hon.
And, with that, I’m off to watch a movie with the Fam. Have a happy, safe weekend everyone!
Left wingers complaining about bias in the media???
Too funny.
113. Delia:
“Who needs browsers without the INTERNET? -And don’t forget your own Commie/Cap-n-Taxer/Anti-Capitalist with a Ginormous carbon footprint ‘created’ the Internet!”
What a great summary of the history of the Internet!
do you ever wonder why these people like DaveK spend so much time posting on this site? clearly, they don’t agree with the positions of the pajamas contributors or readers. personally, I’d be embarrassed to show off how little I knew to an audience of thousands, but maybe that’s just me.
the fact of the matter is, Fox is KILLING in the ratings, and half of its viewers are independents and liberals. Fox’s hard-news shows are the equal (if not the better) of any of its competitors, and its opinion shows are no more biased to the right than Keith and Rachel are to the left.
the troll somewhere up above who quoted a letter from Ed Gillespie to someone who ran a negative story about Bush is just a hoot. Barack Obama can send all the strongly worded rebukes he likes. what he CAN’T do is decide who gets to cover politics in this country.
the loony left is terrified, and the only way they know how to fight back is to sling ad hominem attacks. they’ve got so much invested in this poor excuse for a president that they can’t admit there might be two sides to an issue.
More of pleas for affirmative action by Paul Unalaska
‘poster childs’
I believe Paul, that the plural of child is children. Is it my imagination, or are the people who cry loudest about affirmative action giving non-white people advancement they don’t deserve, functionally illiterate?
To Delia: so you’re experienced with mushrooms, eh? Well, that can explain a few things — right wingers tend to be on the receiving end of the “mushroom theory,” especially if they choose Fox News and the other dis-news sites for the shoveling end….
The Stalinistic Pavlovian response is noticable at PJM as well as other sites where reformed Leftist posting, Ron Radosh, Horowitz, etc…seem to attract the more virulent Lefty Trolls, or possibly these writers are specifically targeted by the Troll Masters. The SP Trolls are also expecially virulent and should be ignored!
73. geokstr:
Paranoia on steroids
Just read that Talking Points Memo has been allowed to joined the WH Press pool. Seriously.
Yet the WH thinks Fox is biased.
Mussolini lives!!
Fortunately these liberals are preaching to an ever decreasing choir. They know this and when they lose their monopoly on opinion, the same thing happens to them as has happened to print media and CNN. Rating fall, readership tanks and these opinions are just lashing out to maintain the loony left…their residual audience.
95. Banned by Huffpo:
And he loses it, revealing the true depths of his perverted obeisance to The Cause. Weary of being called out for his racist, bigoted, backwoods world view, frustrated at being left behind by the majority of America, left to defend the failed and selfish policies of his ideological mentors, he lashes out in the only way he knows – a geyser of repressed sexual fascination complete with a scat alert and a money shot of Katie Couric. And for dessert, a latent man-love for Mr. Mathews. Is it any wonder you were banned by HuffPo?
So, let me turn to the other conservatives around here. Go read post #95. Would you let a guy like this ANYWHERE NEAR your children? Delia, would you?
geokstr@74:
“This is the Rules of Alinsky on steroids, where the ends justify the means.”
Yes, and we’re all hackers on steroids, using the Internet hate machine for our own nefarious communist purposes.
Because how could anyone disagree with the not-at-all ranting and raving right-wing retards here?
Well, it’s time to do some more domestic terrorist hacking activity using our UNDERGROUND HACKER SECRET ALINSKY ON STEROIDS WEBSITES!
For many years the NYT decided what the news would be for the day. What the people would be told and what they would not be told about. The 6:00 news was always a carbon copy of the front page of the NYT. ACORN would never have been exposed, the thirty ethics probes in congress would not have been exposed. This is what they are so upset about, they can no longer control the flow of news.
The death of Liberal Journalism is an interesting death spiral to observe and of course they are going to group attack the only News source that is thriving and putting them to shame. What else do they have left to do?
As far as Government and Capitalism is concerned… It is Capitalism that has paid for the Government and all of the Gov ‘sponsored’ projects. Without people out there busting their asses creating wealth, the Government would collapse on itself but, with drunken sailor overspending by Dems & RINOPubs even the people busting their humps can’t cover that much insanity. Printing dollars out of thin air is NOT creating wealth, just destroying it.
ACORN would never have been exposed, the thirty ethics probes in congress would not have been exposed.
Yeah, that really made a difference. Everything’s been smooth sailing ever since. Without ACORN, the budget deficit deflated, the economy picked up again, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were brought to a close. Not to mention all the jobs it created.
ACORN won’t be able to cheat the CENSUS.
Moho@125:
“Yeah, that really made a difference. Everything’s been smooth sailing ever since. Without ACORN, the budget deficit deflated, the economy picked up again, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were brought to a close. Not to mention all the jobs it created.”
ACORN is like the movie “The Sixth Sense” for the regressive conservatards.
“I see black people.”
“Black people like, in the street? At work?”
“Walking around like regular people. They don’t know they’re ACORN thugs.”
“How often do you see them?”
“All the time. They’re everywhere.”
MOHO#125 vomited,&his sock puppet DAVE K#126 regurgitated, commenting on FOX busting ACORN”s scheme to import child prostitutes:”Yeah, that made a difference” Well yes it did as a matter of fact, at LEAST YOU TWO WON”T BE MOLESTING UNDERAGE LATIN AMERICAN GIRLS and INFECTING THEM WITH YOUR VD! It looks like it back to playing Obama speeches in sick twits!
#126 DAVID K; “I see David K.MOHO,NOW&THEN,and B.C.” “Are they at work?” Work? “No, they are democrats;they’re on welfare”.How often do you see them”?On PJM , they’re Stalinist parasites who hate freedom of speech for those who disagree with them”.”Thugs like that are everywhere in the Obama administration.”
Yeah, that made a difference” Well yes it did as a matter of fact, at LEAST YOU TWO WON”T BE MOLESTING UNDERAGE LATIN AMERICAN GIRLS and INFECTING THEM WITH YOUR VD!
Well, if that sentence still makes sense to you after writing, it, my condolences. I thought Paul_Unalaska was the dumbest one of you, but you make him look brilliant.
Ah, Moho, when in doubt unleash the ad hominems. I really, really get tired of the Liberal claim that only “dumb” folks watch/listent to conservative media outlets. Let me do a brief survey of the people I know that watch Fox News Channel, and their professions/educational levels:
My wife (attorney)=
A number of my close friends (derivatives analyst, with Master’s degrees in Math and Econ); several attorneys; one physician; several M.Div.-level ministers; a senior Army Intelligence analyst; and several folks who “merely” have B.A.’s but run/own their own businesses)
And this humble interloctur (Ph.D., History).
I realize this is anecdotal information, but I’d be willing to bet that 1) most of the FNC fans on here are in similiar educational demographic realms, and 2) an empirical study of FNC viewers would confirm that, on average, they have higher educational levels than the average MSBNC, CNN or network news viewer. (As turned out to be the case with a study done a decade or so ago by one of the business magazines–”Fortune” or “Business Week,” I believe–which demostrated that Rush Limbaugh listerners ranked well above-average in both educational level and income.)
Man!! The trolls are screaming loud and hard!! Somebody must be getting their toes stepped on.. . . I place the MSM in the same category as the trolls and “o”- treasonous slime bent on the destruction of our Country.God help us!!
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Occidental Jihadist@133:
“Let me do a brief survey of the people I know that watch Fox News Channel, and their professions/educational levels:
My wife (attorney)=A number of my close friends (derivatives analyst, with Master’s degrees in Math and Econ); several attorneys; one physician; several M.Div.-level ministers; a senior Army Intelligence analyst; and several folks who “merely” have B.A.’s but run/own their own businesses)
And this humble interloctur (Ph.D., History).”
Anecdotal “evidence” from an anonymous online poster who claims to have a Ph.D. in History and who still doesn’t know how to spell “interlocutor?”
Well, I’m convinced!
“I realize this is anecdotal information, but I’d be willing to bet that 1) most of the FNC fans on here are in similiar educational demographic realms, and 2) an empirical study of FNC viewers would confirm that, on average, they have higher educational levels than the average MSBNC, CNN or network news viewer. (As turned out to be the case with a study done a decade or so ago by one of the business magazines–”Fortune” or “Business Week,” I believe–which demostrated that Rush Limbaugh listerners ranked well above-average in both educational level and income.)”
PRO TIP:
If you have to brag about how intelligent you are, you probably aren’t that intelligent to begin with.
ANOTHER PRO TIP:
It’s “similar”, not “similiar.”
It’s “demonstrated”, not “demostrated.”
And, finally, it’s “listeners”, and not “listerners.”
Oh, you guys are the funniest!
Duane Phinney has the whole “left wing” of the press pinned in his comment #123. The Grey Lady no longer controls the agenda and these guys are having a hissy/pissy fit. Obama is a would-be autocrat (not that much different from Bush, actually, in that respect), and needs secure control of the media. His attacks on Fox News are all about trying to control the agenda, since the Grey Lady can’t anymore.
On a tangential note, I’d like to thank Ron Radosh for not going the usual Pajamasmedia route and use moderators as an excuse to delay and censure posts.
Granted, it would be ironic to have censors and moderators for commenting on an article about free speech, but still.
Well done, you filthy Zionist
Dave K…he does censor posts.
Moho@138:
“Dave K…he does censor posts.”
Well, fornicate him then.
Dave K:
Well, actually, I can spell–I just don’t type all that well, especially when exhausted. You got me on the misspellings.
Now, can we move past the process and into the substance of the issues I broached?
I don’t see anywhere in that post where I’m “bragging” about anything. I’m simply pointing out–anecdotally, admittedly–that a lot of folks who watch FNC are at least as intelligenct as many of the supercilious Left claim to be. But, as usual, you and your ilk are consumed with scoring cheap points at the expense someone’s less-than-pristine typing and totally ignore the gravamen of the discussion.
Here’s my website: try not to let your lips move when you read it. Actually, they’re not doubt glued to a picture of BHO’s divine buttocks, so I doubt they would move.
And enjoy that goat stew your and yours are cooking up under the bridge.
Actually, before your sniggering starts, HERE’S my website link: http://www.mahdiwatch.org
This where the action is, obviously. It is perhaps the most sacred of cows to the Cult of 0bama, and its members who try and flock ooooh!, and scowl AHHHH!, as though it were Alfred Hitchcock and ‘The Birds’, and undertake the personal attacks/set up the straw man obfuscations to serve the master of ceremonie’$. Hallow’een isn’t enough for the deranged anymore; they’re convinced this is a start up for a career in broadcasting, if fidelity and fides are spilled in quantity and verbosity.
How’s that working out for you?
obfuscations/changing the subject/trying to eradicate the subject/etc, it’s all the same thing; because when one of names it, it’s still the criptonite to your cause.
So go and take some time and read some books on foreign policy or something, if you can read, before you feign facility with any subject and then get back w/ us, ok?
I still don’t think it will work. We’ll take the time to dismiss your ignorance/conceit, but there is no substance to your verberia, no there-there to your wasted bandwidth pixie pranks. So we’ll have our fun at your expense/skip over it all as necessary, for above reasons as befits our arrogance.
But don’t worry so much, we like you, we really really like you.
Occidental Jihadist@140:
“Dave K:
Well, actually, I can spell–I just don’t type all that well, especially when exhausted. You got me on the misspellings.
Now, can we move past the process and into the substance of the issues I broached?
I don’t see anywhere in that post where I’m “bragging” about anything. I’m simply pointing out–anecdotally, admittedly–that a lot of folks who watch FNC are at least as intelligenct as many of the supercilious Left claim to be. But, as usual, you and your ilk are consumed with scoring cheap points at the expense someone’s less-than-pristine typing and totally ignore the gravamen of the discussion.”
It’s the juxtaposition of your “intellectual” buffoonery and title-dropping in combination with your insistence that you and your friends are so “intelligenct” that make your posts such a rich vein of pure comedy gold, Herr Doktor Blowhardigan van der Pompous-Fool III, Esq.
I’m sure that a Ph.D. in Arab History is a great asset in your line of work, because at least you can chat with all the other cab drivers.
“Here’s my website: try not to let your lips move when you read it. Actually, they’re not doubt glued to a picture of BHO’s divine buttocks, so I doubt they would move.
And enjoy that goat stew your and yours are cooking up under the bridge.”
And you have an invisible web site as well?
Well, color me impressed!
That’s an exclusive club you’re a member of:
“Intelligenct” cab drivers with web sites that only those with special powers can see.
Occidental Jihadist@141:
“Actually, before your sniggering starts, HERE’S my website link: http://www.mahdiwatch.org”
You have an invisible web site about the invisible Imam.
That’s so very Harry Potter of you.
Leftists & 0bama sittin’ in D.C.
K-I-SS-I-N-G
First comes LOVE
Then disappointment
Now they’re swattin’ and a Swingin’
At the fly in the anointment…
That mean ol’ FOX
Pickin’ on our guy
All we do is just cry “RACIST!”
It’s enough to make ya cry.
Look guys, its real simple, if you and the crew made substantive argument (and that means with sources) pertaining to the subject, it might be acknowledged, or not, the way anything else might.
Now I don’t wanna git chall in any trouble with yer higher ups (your betters) or nothing, but could you try that maybe? Could you maybe stay your shaky hands from the personal attax and the irrelevant straw man triangulation attempts and join the family of man? Maybe while they aren’t looking perhaps? Or maybe when mom’er’dads PC is unattended?
Nah, Didn’t think so neither… tell you what then, maybe we just post the above so’s to serve as disclaimer for this play-pen-prank-call stuff early on, and get it out of the way a little sooner, so you (men; its always men isn’t it? NO GIRLS ALLOWED!!) can git to bed a little earlier now young man.
Yeah you’re all quite the tag-team urban Geee!-Hotties™, now go grab a glass of milk and some cookies and get into back bed like I toll’yuh twice already.
sorry, that’s supposed to be the back bed of the truck.
Gaffe Prices@146:
[some undecipherable rantings of a madman removed]
Gaffe Prices,
did you ever watch “Pulp Fiction”, by any chance?
Samuel J. Jackson’s character Jules has a great quote in that movie and I think it’s applicable about your post:
ENGLISH, MOTHER****ER! DO-YOU-SPEAK-IT?
147. DSK.,
Every time you post your nonsense here I want to reach for a pair of pliers and a blow-torch.
Delia@149:
“147. DSK.,
Every time you post your nonsense here I want to reach for a pair of pliers and a blow-torch.”
Don’t make me go medieval on your ass, garçon.
149. DSK.,
Don’t make me bring out my hard, pipe-hittin’ ****as to go to work on you, homes.
;p
#132 MOHO; Your are right Mohito,MEA CULPA!I somehow screwed up the last part of the sentence(I was putting a fresh copy of the New York Times in the floor of my parakeet’s cage.Multitasking CAN be difficult sometimes!However,screwing up a post, is nothing compared to your eager anticipation of screwing central american children imported by ACORN.Fox put an end to that scheme,and now you and your sock puppet David K(retin)will have to spend your saturday nights watching re-runs of Obama speeches, hoping for the odd masturbatory thrill up your leg.No wonder you are pissed off at Fox! I suggest you rejoin NAMBLA!
#151
Oh, do you hate your parakeet that much?
One would suppose an honest president would realize not all Americans would agree with his (her) point of view on issues and use the dissent to help compromise and build bridges. Obama and his administration set land minds and condemn anyone who points out that the emperor has no clothes. They Ridicule anyone who does not follow their Rules. Alinsky, anyone? Not here, we’re Americans and are better than what Alinsky’s proposed for his perfect world.
#152 Linda Mae: I LOVE my parakeet,hate the Times,and the Stalinst blogtards here ,who have become hysterical at its terminal loss of credibility.Obama wants to be America’s Castro,and Mohito,and the other STALINIST clowns who infest PJM , want to run his Gulags.It will be fun to stop them.Best regards.
#147 Dave K,
I don’t see the need to speak english to monkey’s with typewriters and a modem.
Good thing about trolls- they work for peanuts
#147, And another thing Dave, could you get your head out of that day-glo film droolers lap and look at me when I’m talking to you.
You just proved my point whether you can understand english or not. Go read the NYT and then do double duty on Frank Rich’s totalitarian, uh, sterling reputation, he’s a little down in the dumps today.
#147, And yet another thing Dave.
Dave, it may come as some surprise to you, but I am your boss, and I screen for morons. Especially morons with “terretts”.
And as such, you are fired, Now go punch out and pick up your check.
You never never, never ever make MF references. Ever. You learned that at orientation you putz, or were you not paying attention?
Who do you think you are, Rahm Emanuel?
Here we are trying to run a top notch Troll Patrol™ outfit, and you make it look like a bunch of freaking street rats. And that goes double for the rest of you moron wanna-bees. Shape up or ship out. That potty mouth routine’ll get you back on the street pronto.
Next time try and show some in-dee-pen-dent thought or there won’t be a next time, and out you go. You hear me? Now put down those snickers bars; break time is over and now cancelled til further notice.
Gaffe Prices@155:
“#147 Dave K,
I don’t see the need to speak english to monkey’s with typewriters and a modem.”
PRO TIP:
When referring to the English language, one should use capitalization.
PRO TIP:
A contraction using an apostrophe does not equal forming a plural.
For instance, “monkey’s” is a contraction of “monkey is” as opposed to “monkeys”, the latter being plural of monkey.
In summary:
ENGLISH, MOTHER****ER! DO-YOU-SPEAK-IT?
P.S. Dave, I did my best to help you, left you multiple hints. But that thick skull of yours is just so thick, there’s no room left for brain, and now you’ve blown our cover.
Now take your drunk app down the street to Hardy’s.
Or does Altermen perhaps think that he has license to slander the objects or persons (Stossel, Fox et al) of his paranoid delusions? For the sake of his paranoid delusions? Armed with nothing but personal attacks?
If you thought this might be an isolated case, then consult NYT’s Thomas Friedman’s equally parnoid delusions:
And then try to square that and other contemporary group-denke mindsets such as this, also from “Friedman”
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I found someone who actually put your posting and turned into a form of art.
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#48,
Yeah, that’s exactly what happened to
FlaviaLavrenti Pavlovich Beria.its reassuring to see that he rose and fell in life based on his merits in that meritocracy; that paradise of utopianism, that Shangri-La of socialism, that oasis of sanctity, that was the old soviet union. /sarcasm off
soviet union was not capitalized. Any complaints? Would those would be complainers like to hazard the definition of the word ‘soviet’ without googling it?
Didn’t think so…
moho, you really are a mo ho, indeed and in fact. Maybe you can file a victims lawsuit after you drag your sorry app round the unemployment office. Good luck and good bye. You’re gone.
And now you, ‘now and then’. (that’s so cute!! so precious!!!) I warned you too. :[to all]: I warned you all!. Pick up the rest of your pizza and git outta here. You’re out too. And don’t let the screen door hit you.
sources people. sources
If FOX news is viewed more than all of the other news channels combined does that mean the majority viewers of FNC are ENEMIES of the ’0′ admin too?
PRO TIP: Grammar and spell-check don’t compensate for small genitals no matter how badly you wish it to be so.
Gaffe Prices@162:
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Delia@164:
“If FOX news is viewed more than all of the other news channels combined does that mean the majority viewers of FNC are ENEMIES of the ‘0′ admin too?”
No, it means that they are proud members of the mainstream media.
“PRO TIP: Grammar and spell-check don’t compensate for small genitals no matter how badly you wish it to be so.”
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Gaffe Prices@163:
http://lolwut.com/pics/elephants.gif
Yes you screwed up that sentence. In your defense, you seem to screw up most of the ones you write.
Oh! Praise purple lips and that dragon ‘trouble and strife’ of his!
What a banner day for feeding the trolls! What a bumper crop of fools and lemmings to show up chasing after obama’s shorts! I mean, think about it, the prz-O-dint sent out operatives to co-ordinate a media blitz forcing Fox News’ rival news organisations to soil their Depends deciding whither to cringe underneath the fear of his ‘lash’, or maybe, break with 0bhamas latest transparent, pathetic interference strategy for his health scare fiasco by trying to stir up the “Fox controversy” frum the “bully pulpit”? you know, that death care thing that’s going down the tubes like The Tyrannic?
But then, that ditzy Green Acres ‘Dahling’ Mrs. Douglas impersonator over at Ruffin’ Puffint’n Ho couldn’t bring her/his self to skimp on the make-up budget one iota, and went out and hired a 2 live crew of pre-pubescent tetards to do dirty deeds done cheap. (on the real real cheap) so to provide an “across the board, across the spectrum” approach that has been such a boomlet of flummoxed lummoxing that they have made most or all of our points for us with bigotry and psycho-totalitarian sycophancy. Well done trolls.
I’ll admit, I thought the typos and the deliberate misspellings tactic was pretty cheezy, but I had no idea so many suckers would show up and take the bait.
We hit the jackpot for the price of a feed bag.
I mean, this is…, this just keeps getting better
But it was the women (I won’t mention any names) who provided these femm-O-phobic youngsters (poor hopeless Nambla boys) with what proved to be the siren’s song just too irresistible to their idiot brained, bold rush of bigoted, racist fools gold bonanza.
[aside] [again] Now bc, I was holding out on you because I thought you showed some promise early on, but why are you and all the others so stuck on this passive-aggressive hostility to women? Now I know you’ve never been kissed, and you never will, but you (and others capable of taking advice) should consider at least faking like you have a human heart, and try- oh, never mind: if it isn’t in you it just isn’t in you.
Now Im not going to fire you, yet. But that “date night” with Soros that was promised you and some others with Sore-a$$ and Sunstein is right out. Canceled.
now get back on those boards, and please try and find a subject somewhere in the realm of idea’s between abject, abstract totalitarian fantasy and personal attacks ok? And try not to jump the shark so derd-blamed early on.
now listen up everbody: democrat party is organised crime with massive PR, but when we’re out there on the boards in this sweatshop, does it have to look like it?
Gaffe Prices@169:
Concerning your grammar, or lack thereof:
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#154 Gaffe Prices. Trolls work for peanuts? I thought they worked for NAMBLA.
deguello@171:
“#154 Gaffe Prices. Trolls work for peanuts? I thought they worked for NAMBLA.”
I didn’t know he was only 3 years old!
I swear on “The Origin of Species!”
We know we know already: you’re hostile, you’re bitter, you’re angry, you’re frushtrated, you’re depressed, you’re resentful, you’re dissatisfied, you’re envious, you’re jealous….
You’re redundancy amounts to no more than a repeating, disgruntled self portrait.
So other than all that, and indulging all of it one more time, what is your GD point? Concerning the authors post? And trolls, please spare us the projection, we’re on to that. Its so 20th century.
Apart from the Network news, when I usually watch Charlie Gibson, I turn to Fox most of the rest of the time. I will always stop to hear Chris Wallace, Britt Hume, or a couple other of their correspondents. I am a little embarrassed that I watch O’Reilly almost every night. He is full of himself and maybe not that knowledgeable, but he makes the most effort to be balanced. But even he knows where his base is, and his promos like all the others play shamelessly ALL THE TIME to some provocative, unpleasant “question” about Obama or his cohorts. They know that this is red meat which will pull in a huge percent of righties and a fair number of centrists will come for the back and forth.
Foxes’ promotional stance IS the most clearly biased of all the networks, but you may well hear more at least quasi-legitimate back and forth on O’Reilly than on other networks. Hannity is virtually unwatchable; Beck is on too early and wierd in a way I don’t feel drawn to, although I can take him in small doses on O’Reilly.
relevant sources you miserable moronic morons; relevant sources:
http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/the-costs-of-abstraction-4307
Gaffe Prices@173:
It’s a shock to me and it’s a shock to you
Your mother’s got a beard, sandals, and a penis too
It don’t look right see, when she’s walking down the street
To see her ball bag jiggin’ to the beat of her feet
I said
Your mother’s got a penis
Your mother’s got a penis
Your mother’s got a penis
That’s right
Your mother’s got a penis
What is this “Slate” thing that Mr. Weisberg works for? Must not be very much to it.
As per the Fox News example I’d rather be told facts plus opinions than opinions as facts, ala the rest of the bunch. That’s even true across the pond with the BBC. They aren’t “journalists”, so much as they are “fablers” and lack the integrity to admit it.
#173 GAFFE PRICES
AVID K has got VD, got VD, got VD,David K has got VD,:he got it from Soros! (to the tune of London Bridge is falling down!)
#167 MOHO:Tell you what: I’ll stop screwing up my sentences,if you stop screwing David K.Can’t you see he’s already infected?
Over at CNN, we’re all a bitter clinger, angry mob:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/03/voter.anger/index.html
I like CNN; they’re fair and balanced.
Over at CNN, we’re all a bitter clinger, angry mob:
What’s Ron Paul’s favorite form of excercise?An evening Constitutional.