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		<title>By: Classic Cardy UGG Boots</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2009/10/02/can-we-still-trust-anne-applebaum-her-irrational-defense-of-polanski/#comment-7676</link>
		<dc:creator>Classic Cardy UGG Boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t know what is the statue of limitation for rape for example in Poland.
But if you are curious have a look at their penal code:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know what is the statue of limitation for rape for example in Poland.<br />
But if you are curious have a look at their penal code:</p>
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		<title>By: europe</title>
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		<dc:creator>europe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google translation of the Polish penal code:

Limitation

Art 101 § 1 Prosecution shall lapse if the time of its commission passed years:

1) 30 - when the act constitutes a crime of murder,

2) 20 - when the act constitutes another crime,

2) 15 - when the act is a transgression punishable by deprivation of liberty exceeding 5 years,

3) 10 - when the act is a transgression punishable by deprivation of liberty than 3 years

4) 5 - when it comes to other crimes.

5) (repealed).

§ 2 Prosecution, prosecution of private prosecution shall terminate at the end of one year from the time when the victim knew the person of the offender, but not later than the end of 3 years from the time of its commission.

§ 3 In the cases provided for in § 1 or 2, where no crime depends on the occurrence of a particular effect in the Act, the limitation period starts from the time when the effect occurred.

§ 4 Limitation of criminal offenses referred to in Article. 199 § 2 and 3, Art. 200, Art. 202 § 2 and 4 and Articles. 204 § 3, as well as the crimes defined in Article. 197, Art. 201, Art. 202 § 3, Art. Article 203. 204 § 4, where the victim is a minor - not before the expiry of 5 years from completion of the victim 18 years.

Article 102 If within the period provided for in Article. 101 proceedings were initiated against the person punishable offense committed by her referred to in § 1 item 1 - 3 shall cease at the end of 10 years, and in other cases - at the end of 5 years from the end of this period.

Article 103 § 1 Could not execute the penalty, if the conviction becomes final elapsed years:

1) 30 - in the event of a conviction to imprisonment exceeding 5 years or more severe penalty,

2) 15 - in the event of a conviction to imprisonment not exceeding 5 years,

3) 10 - in the event of a conviction for another penalty.

§ 2 Provision of § 1 paragraph 3 shall apply mutatis mutandis to the punitive measures listed in Article. 39 points 1-4 and 6 and 7, provision of § 1 paragraph 2 shall apply mutatis mutandis to a corrective measure mentioned in Art. 39 points 5

Article 104 § 1 The period of limitation does not run, if the statutory provision does not permit the initiation or continuation of criminal proceedings, but not for a lack of applications or private prosecution.

§ 2 Limitation in relation to the crimes defined in Article. 144, Art. 145 § 2 or 3, Art. 338 § 1 or 2, and Article. 339 runs from the time of making satisfy the obligation or the time at which the offender has ceased to weigh.

Article 105 § 1 Provisions of Article. 101-103 does not apply to crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes.

§ 2 Provisions of Article. 101-103 also do not apply to intentional crimes: murder, grievous bodily injury, serious bodily injury or deprivation of liberty combined with a special torment, committed by a public official in connection with the performance of official duties.

http://tinyurl.com/yfsczgu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google translation of the Polish penal code:</p>
<p>Limitation</p>
<p>Art 101 § 1 Prosecution shall lapse if the time of its commission passed years:</p>
<p>1) 30 &#8211; when the act constitutes a crime of murder,</p>
<p>2) 20 &#8211; when the act constitutes another crime,</p>
<p>2) 15 &#8211; when the act is a transgression punishable by deprivation of liberty exceeding 5 years,</p>
<p>3) 10 &#8211; when the act is a transgression punishable by deprivation of liberty than 3 years</p>
<p>4) 5 &#8211; when it comes to other crimes.</p>
<p>5) (repealed).</p>
<p>§ 2 Prosecution, prosecution of private prosecution shall terminate at the end of one year from the time when the victim knew the person of the offender, but not later than the end of 3 years from the time of its commission.</p>
<p>§ 3 In the cases provided for in § 1 or 2, where no crime depends on the occurrence of a particular effect in the Act, the limitation period starts from the time when the effect occurred.</p>
<p>§ 4 Limitation of criminal offenses referred to in Article. 199 § 2 and 3, Art. 200, Art. 202 § 2 and 4 and Articles. 204 § 3, as well as the crimes defined in Article. 197, Art. 201, Art. 202 § 3, Art. Article 203. 204 § 4, where the victim is a minor &#8211; not before the expiry of 5 years from completion of the victim 18 years.</p>
<p>Article 102 If within the period provided for in Article. 101 proceedings were initiated against the person punishable offense committed by her referred to in § 1 item 1 &#8211; 3 shall cease at the end of 10 years, and in other cases &#8211; at the end of 5 years from the end of this period.</p>
<p>Article 103 § 1 Could not execute the penalty, if the conviction becomes final elapsed years:</p>
<p>1) 30 &#8211; in the event of a conviction to imprisonment exceeding 5 years or more severe penalty,</p>
<p>2) 15 &#8211; in the event of a conviction to imprisonment not exceeding 5 years,</p>
<p>3) 10 &#8211; in the event of a conviction for another penalty.</p>
<p>§ 2 Provision of § 1 paragraph 3 shall apply mutatis mutandis to the punitive measures listed in Article. 39 points 1-4 and 6 and 7, provision of § 1 paragraph 2 shall apply mutatis mutandis to a corrective measure mentioned in Art. 39 points 5</p>
<p>Article 104 § 1 The period of limitation does not run, if the statutory provision does not permit the initiation or continuation of criminal proceedings, but not for a lack of applications or private prosecution.</p>
<p>§ 2 Limitation in relation to the crimes defined in Article. 144, Art. 145 § 2 or 3, Art. 338 § 1 or 2, and Article. 339 runs from the time of making satisfy the obligation or the time at which the offender has ceased to weigh.</p>
<p>Article 105 § 1 Provisions of Article. 101-103 does not apply to crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes.</p>
<p>§ 2 Provisions of Article. 101-103 also do not apply to intentional crimes: murder, grievous bodily injury, serious bodily injury or deprivation of liberty combined with a special torment, committed by a public official in connection with the performance of official duties.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfsczgu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yfsczgu</a></p>
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		<title>By: europe</title>
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		<dc:creator>europe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to forget (or do not know) that in most of the European countries there is a statue of limitations on almost all crimes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations

For example in Poland even penalizing of murded is limited to only 30 years. After that time if murderer managed to avoid justice that long, he/she cannot be punished.

I am not saying whether this is right or not. I just want to point out that inevitability of punishemnt regardless of time lapse is not that obvious at all from the moral point of view, if they introduced such law in Europe. 

I don&#039;t know what is the statue of limitation for rape for example in Poland.
But if you are curious have a look at their penal code:
http://tinyurl.com/yfsczgu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to forget (or do not know) that in most of the European countries there is a statue of limitations on almost all crimes: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations</a></p>
<p>For example in Poland even penalizing of murded is limited to only 30 years. After that time if murderer managed to avoid justice that long, he/she cannot be punished.</p>
<p>I am not saying whether this is right or not. I just want to point out that inevitability of punishemnt regardless of time lapse is not that obvious at all from the moral point of view, if they introduced such law in Europe. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what is the statue of limitation for rape for example in Poland.<br />
But if you are curious have a look at their penal code:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfsczgu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yfsczgu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Applebaum argues that it is punishment not to live in the United States; the same United States that the left curses &lt;i&gt;&quot;God Damn America&quot;&lt;/i&gt; (Jeremiah Wright) and that the current administrations&#039; czars and cabinet seeks to destroy.

Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applebaum argues that it is punishment not to live in the United States; the same United States that the left curses <i>&#8220;God Damn America&#8221;</i> (Jeremiah Wright) and that the current administrations&#8217; czars and cabinet seeks to destroy.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: myth buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>myth buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the Wall Street Journal owned by News Corp?  I thought we agreed that News Corp is not Main Stream Media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the Wall Street Journal owned by News Corp?  I thought we agreed that News Corp is not Main Stream Media.</p>
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		<title>By: John Corn</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Corn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s relevant to a rape conviction, but, if in fact, the facts indicate rape at front and back, what in hell does the Whoopie Hooray Goldberg comment, &quot;It wasn&#039;t rape rape,&quot; mean?  What&#039;s left?  I guess her mouth, but only after her rear end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s relevant to a rape conviction, but, if in fact, the facts indicate rape at front and back, what in hell does the Whoopie Hooray Goldberg comment, &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t rape rape,&#8221; mean?  What&#8217;s left?  I guess her mouth, but only after her rear end.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Change your sign off to &quot;Piece.&quot; It would more accurately describe you.

As in POS.  Or &quot;piece of 13 year old *** that I&#039;d really like to get my hands on.&quot;

God knows why women defend Polanski, but I am starting to believe that every male who does so either has skeltons in the closet or fantasizes about doing what Polanski did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Change your sign off to &#8220;Piece.&#8221; It would more accurately describe you.</p>
<p>As in POS.  Or &#8220;piece of 13 year old *** that I&#8217;d really like to get my hands on.&#8221;</p>
<p>God knows why women defend Polanski, but I am starting to believe that every male who does so either has skeltons in the closet or fantasizes about doing what Polanski did.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2009/10/02/can-we-still-trust-anne-applebaum-her-irrational-defense-of-polanski/#comment-5353</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David S.: what about the NY Times and WaPo?  Both papers ran editorals stating Polanski should be extradited.  What about Nina Burleigh,Katha Pollit, and Susan Estrich, who have condemned Polanski in the strongest terms?  Tell me that they are all pushing GOP talking points.

There are some things even most libs can&#039;t stomach, but alas, some have completely lost any sense of right and wrong.

I repeat:  you are a morally corrupt liar who defends a child rapist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David S.: what about the NY Times and WaPo?  Both papers ran editorals stating Polanski should be extradited.  What about Nina Burleigh,Katha Pollit, and Susan Estrich, who have condemned Polanski in the strongest terms?  Tell me that they are all pushing GOP talking points.</p>
<p>There are some things even most libs can&#8217;t stomach, but alas, some have completely lost any sense of right and wrong.</p>
<p>I repeat:  you are a morally corrupt liar who defends a child rapist.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@51. gus3:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Even the Wall Street Journal, with a primary focus on economics, argues that Polanski should return and pay the price for his crime.&lt;/i&gt;

I read the WSJ every day.  The opinion page is about as far right as you will find in the MSM.  The primary focus of editorials in the Journal is to bolster GOP talking points.

An editorial on the Polanski case that does not touch on any of the legal issues is simply bad journalism.  Anne Applebaum at least took the time to address the facts in the case.  One can defend the principles of justice without approving of the actions of criminals - in fact, this is the very basis of our legal system.

When such distinctions fail to be made, the Republic and the People inevitably suffer.

Peace.

DS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@51. gus3:</b></p>
<p><i>Even the Wall Street Journal, with a primary focus on economics, argues that Polanski should return and pay the price for his crime.</i></p>
<p>I read the WSJ every day.  The opinion page is about as far right as you will find in the MSM.  The primary focus of editorials in the Journal is to bolster GOP talking points.</p>
<p>An editorial on the Polanski case that does not touch on any of the legal issues is simply bad journalism.  Anne Applebaum at least took the time to address the facts in the case.  One can defend the principles of justice without approving of the actions of criminals &#8211; in fact, this is the very basis of our legal system.</p>
<p>When such distinctions fail to be made, the Republic and the People inevitably suffer.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Whorfin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Whorfin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW- per Smoking Gun transcript, the 13 y/o says &quot;cuddiliness&quot; I suggest this was an error in transcript, as she probably said &quot;cunnilingus&quot;, but the transcriber heard cuddiliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW- per Smoking Gun transcript, the 13 y/o says &#8220;cuddiliness&#8221; I suggest this was an error in transcript, as she probably said &#8220;cunnilingus&#8221;, but the transcriber heard cuddiliness.</p>
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