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		<title>By: Funs blog</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2009/09/09/liberals-and-van-jones-why-are-they-defending-him/#comment-7684</link>
		<dc:creator>Funs blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory on Van (should you decide to accept it) is that he got in as a function Obama Sycophant Valerie Jarrett enthusiastically promoting him. (gushing, really)</description>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory on Van (should you decide to accept it) is that he got in as a function Obama Sycophant Valerie Jarrett enthusiastically promoting him. (gushing, really)

Reportedly (although unverified) Michelle Obama is also a big fan of Van.

My theory further postulates that Michelle is largely responsible for the family&#039;s long continued involvement with Jeremiah (Bullfrog) Wright, and only when Wright made some bordering-on-vulgar comments about Hillary did political expediency force Barack to finally toss him under the bus.

Anyway, liberals are notorious for forgiving outrageousness, even criminality, in any and all individuals on their side of the fence.  

The only standard they employ for acceptance/rejection is ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory on Van (should you decide to accept it) is that he got in as a function Obama Sycophant Valerie Jarrett enthusiastically promoting him. (gushing, really)</p>
<p>Reportedly (although unverified) Michelle Obama is also a big fan of Van.</p>
<p>My theory further postulates that Michelle is largely responsible for the family&#8217;s long continued involvement with Jeremiah (Bullfrog) Wright, and only when Wright made some bordering-on-vulgar comments about Hillary did political expediency force Barack to finally toss him under the bus.</p>
<p>Anyway, liberals are notorious for forgiving outrageousness, even criminality, in any and all individuals on their side of the fence.  </p>
<p>The only standard they employ for acceptance/rejection is ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: genghis</title>
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		<dc:creator>genghis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve bought into the program. They are sponsors, not independent observers. Their ego is invested in the presidency. Failure would mean a mortal wound. It would require admitting their own stupidity, and  culpability in empowering the most unqualified president in US history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve bought into the program. They are sponsors, not independent observers. Their ego is invested in the presidency. Failure would mean a mortal wound. It would require admitting their own stupidity, and  culpability in empowering the most unqualified president in US history.</p>
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		<title>By: carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why?  They are really, really stupid. Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why?  They are really, really stupid. Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: mingus</title>
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		<dc:creator>mingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radical chic pretensions. It is titillating to dally with freaks on the extreme.  It demeonstrates their internationalist bona fides and reinforces their sense of elitism. Of course the intellectual shallowness of their scribblings actually demonstrates an enormous ego deficiency and desperate need to be loved and admired. What was that old song, The Great Pretender?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radical chic pretensions. It is titillating to dally with freaks on the extreme.  It demeonstrates their internationalist bona fides and reinforces their sense of elitism. Of course the intellectual shallowness of their scribblings actually demonstrates an enormous ego deficiency and desperate need to be loved and admired. What was that old song, The Great Pretender?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Dinnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Dinnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave M

I&#039;m pretty sure we live in the same world, albeit with very different perspectives.  You&#039;re correct that &quot;Global Warming&quot; is an inaccurate label.  It is very difficult for many people to imagine that a warming trend, could also make many things colder.  So, you&#039;re right, I should have used the term &quot;climate change&quot;.

I must admit that I am mystified that anyone could think that humankind could not affect climate change.  Of course the climate was/is going to change anyway.  Any sixth grader who has watched a National Geographic program on ice cores knows that.  Ice Ages come and go, no reason to suspect that pendulum will not continue.  The concern is therefore what humankind&#039;s exacerbation is of that pendulum.  To contend that all of human activity in the industrial age did not have an affect on our climate?  Really?  Okay.  Like I said, I am mystified by that conclusion, but this is not the thread to discuss that.

I hear that you were upset that a &quot;self-avowed Marxist&quot; was a close adviser to our President.  It must have driven you crazy to have so many adherents to Unitary Executive Theory as close advisers to our previous President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave M</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure we live in the same world, albeit with very different perspectives.  You&#8217;re correct that &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; is an inaccurate label.  It is very difficult for many people to imagine that a warming trend, could also make many things colder.  So, you&#8217;re right, I should have used the term &#8220;climate change&#8221;.</p>
<p>I must admit that I am mystified that anyone could think that humankind could not affect climate change.  Of course the climate was/is going to change anyway.  Any sixth grader who has watched a National Geographic program on ice cores knows that.  Ice Ages come and go, no reason to suspect that pendulum will not continue.  The concern is therefore what humankind&#8217;s exacerbation is of that pendulum.  To contend that all of human activity in the industrial age did not have an affect on our climate?  Really?  Okay.  Like I said, I am mystified by that conclusion, but this is not the thread to discuss that.</p>
<p>I hear that you were upset that a &#8220;self-avowed Marxist&#8221; was a close adviser to our President.  It must have driven you crazy to have so many adherents to Unitary Executive Theory as close advisers to our previous President.</p>
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		<title>By: Gibson Block</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gibson Block</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron I read the article by Martin Peretz. He seems to be hyper-ventilating when he says: 

&quot;Jones&#039; vulgar hatred of Israel is, alas, also a hatred of Jews.&quot;

I&#039;ve no doubt that Jones is very anti-Israel. Does that mean that he hates David Axelrod or Rahm Emanuel? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron I read the article by Martin Peretz. He seems to be hyper-ventilating when he says: </p>
<p>&#8220;Jones&#8217; vulgar hatred of Israel is, alas, also a hatred of Jews.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no doubt that Jones is very anti-Israel. Does that mean that he hates David Axelrod or Rahm Emanuel? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanoi Paris Hilton</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2009/09/09/liberals-and-van-jones-why-are-they-defending-him/#comment-4669</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanoi Paris Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing that the ex-Green Jobs Czar is never identified as the genius behind the &quot;cash-for-clunkers&quot; (CfC) debacle which dropped US $3 Billion  in three weeks of borrowed money buried deep in the $800 B &quot;stimulus&quot; bill.

The benefits flowed mostly to the relative handful (about a half million clunker owners) who cleverly cashed in), with the new vehicles then purchased being primarily from Japanese, Korean, and German manufacturers.

Along the way, we got to see those appalling videos all over the Internet of impeccable-looking Volvos and Corvettes having their engines not-so-rapidly euthanized in real time, just when the Obamazoids were trying to peddle extending their tender mercies into the health care sector. Bad idea. Would never get past Don Draper.

An not least, from a strictly enviro perspective the CfC program was completely irrational as well, as the basic energy costs entailed in replacing the machinery intentionally so destroyed required a half dozen operable vehicles to be &quot;glassed&quot; to equal the construction and lifetime fuel costs of a single replacement vehicle.

This guy was the toast of the Best and Brightest much as Jim Jones, late of Jonestown, Guyana, was the toast of SF Bay Area lefty pols a generation ago. From whence came the phrase &quot;drinking the Kool-Aid&quot;. Kinda evocative of &quot;under the bus&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that the ex-Green Jobs Czar is never identified as the genius behind the &#8220;cash-for-clunkers&#8221; (CfC) debacle which dropped US $3 Billion  in three weeks of borrowed money buried deep in the $800 B &#8220;stimulus&#8221; bill.</p>
<p>The benefits flowed mostly to the relative handful (about a half million clunker owners) who cleverly cashed in), with the new vehicles then purchased being primarily from Japanese, Korean, and German manufacturers.</p>
<p>Along the way, we got to see those appalling videos all over the Internet of impeccable-looking Volvos and Corvettes having their engines not-so-rapidly euthanized in real time, just when the Obamazoids were trying to peddle extending their tender mercies into the health care sector. Bad idea. Would never get past Don Draper.</p>
<p>An not least, from a strictly enviro perspective the CfC program was completely irrational as well, as the basic energy costs entailed in replacing the machinery intentionally so destroyed required a half dozen operable vehicles to be &#8220;glassed&#8221; to equal the construction and lifetime fuel costs of a single replacement vehicle.</p>
<p>This guy was the toast of the Best and Brightest much as Jim Jones, late of Jonestown, Guyana, was the toast of SF Bay Area lefty pols a generation ago. From whence came the phrase &#8220;drinking the Kool-Aid&#8221;. Kinda evocative of &#8220;under the bus&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11, you&#039;d prolly be smart to drop that #7 thing. My attorney friend looked at the WND article, and said that that&#039;s ordinary procedure, and the odds of the case not getting tossed on the set date are about the same as the trolls all getting brains.

Snot gunna happen. And even if it doesn&#039;t get tossed right away, they have about 43 metric shitloads of legal duct tape that they can use to tie it up until Capt. Kirk shows up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11, you&#8217;d prolly be smart to drop that #7 thing. My attorney friend looked at the WND article, and said that that&#8217;s ordinary procedure, and the odds of the case not getting tossed on the set date are about the same as the trolls all getting brains.</p>
<p>Snot gunna happen. And even if it doesn&#8217;t get tossed right away, they have about 43 metric shitloads of legal duct tape that they can use to tie it up until Capt. Kirk shows up.</p>
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		<title>By: misanthropicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally, this Jones affair should go away - remember Clinton dumping Lani Guarnier (?).
The cause behind liberals&#039; still howling and lamenting is the fact that the Jones affair has became a symbol for them of their impotence, about how things are slipping from their control, and how marginal their potpourri of causes has became, Obama&#039;s standing including here - I&#039;ll call it, &quot;Liberals, the fiery re-enter.&quot;

Let&#039;s review the past two weeks:

*Obama major gaffes &amp; problems:
1) involvement in the Lockerbie scandal -
2) absurd, if not outright seditious decision in the Eastern European missiles shield (hey, we&#039;ll sure be liked more now!) -
3) health care, an ugly agony -
4) Obama&#039;s unstoppable slippage in polls -
5) the unfortunate cease of providential deaths (like Jackson&#039;s and Kennedy&#039;s), which have been grossly played by media to distract the viewership from many issues, and particularly from:
6) an economy that stubbornly remains in an ugly shape, unemployment-wise (today&#039;s adjusted numbers: thanks god, only 500.000 claims, not 570.000) - 
7) and finally! The US District Court (Central Calif) accepting for hearing in January a matter derived from Obama&#039;s dubious presidential legitimacy (and accepting the addition of David Kreeps to the plaintiffs&#039; legal team) - 

... then a few other recent, little things:
8) loss of grip on media, or rather having a grip on an increasingly useless instrument - the White House action initiated against Glenn Beck returned with a vengeance, Van Jones having to be kicked out from the office (This is unfair, it was supposed to be the other way around!)
9) today&#039;s Obama&#039;s Congress speech - was this a game changer? My!
10) the NEA gate, affair which showed what a collection of thugs &amp; creeps are Obama&#039;s followers -
11) topping the NEA thing, we got today the ACORN arrest - a crew of 11 taking bribes and giving consultations on how you can run your pimping business better, on taxpayers money -
 
And again, another, just developing big one - the CNN raving poll about Obama&#039;s today speech, poll which when examined showed that only 18% republicans were queried there, vs. 40+ % democrats! 

Oh, lordy! Martha, who are these people?

So, no wonder that the left are now caught in a frenzy about Van Jones who has became a sort of symbol of their impotence, and run after their own tail, barking. (Also, foolish &amp; superstitious natures, they spend long hours sticking needles in photographs). 
 
Expect more fun. We&#039;ve been only eight months in this presidency and it really looks bad, no good, bad, bad, rotten, crappy, accursed, jinxed, bad, bad, bad (to quote a yesterday PJM article lead) -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally, this Jones affair should go away &#8211; remember Clinton dumping Lani Guarnier (?).<br />
The cause behind liberals&#8217; still howling and lamenting is the fact that the Jones affair has became a symbol for them of their impotence, about how things are slipping from their control, and how marginal their potpourri of causes has became, Obama&#8217;s standing including here &#8211; I&#8217;ll call it, &#8220;Liberals, the fiery re-enter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s review the past two weeks:</p>
<p>*Obama major gaffes &amp; problems:<br />
1) involvement in the Lockerbie scandal -<br />
2) absurd, if not outright seditious decision in the Eastern European missiles shield (hey, we&#8217;ll sure be liked more now!) -<br />
3) health care, an ugly agony -<br />
4) Obama&#8217;s unstoppable slippage in polls -<br />
5) the unfortunate cease of providential deaths (like Jackson&#8217;s and Kennedy&#8217;s), which have been grossly played by media to distract the viewership from many issues, and particularly from:<br />
6) an economy that stubbornly remains in an ugly shape, unemployment-wise (today&#8217;s adjusted numbers: thanks god, only 500.000 claims, not 570.000) &#8211;<br />
7) and finally! The US District Court (Central Calif) accepting for hearing in January a matter derived from Obama&#8217;s dubious presidential legitimacy (and accepting the addition of David Kreeps to the plaintiffs&#8217; legal team) &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8230; then a few other recent, little things:<br />
 <img src='http://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> loss of grip on media, or rather having a grip on an increasingly useless instrument &#8211; the White House action initiated against Glenn Beck returned with a vengeance, Van Jones having to be kicked out from the office (This is unfair, it was supposed to be the other way around!)<br />
9) today&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s Congress speech &#8211; was this a game changer? My!<br />
10) the NEA gate, affair which showed what a collection of thugs &amp; creeps are Obama&#8217;s followers -<br />
11) topping the NEA thing, we got today the ACORN arrest &#8211; a crew of 11 taking bribes and giving consultations on how you can run your pimping business better, on taxpayers money -</p>
<p>And again, another, just developing big one &#8211; the CNN raving poll about Obama&#8217;s today speech, poll which when examined showed that only 18% republicans were queried there, vs. 40+ % democrats! </p>
<p>Oh, lordy! Martha, who are these people?</p>
<p>So, no wonder that the left are now caught in a frenzy about Van Jones who has became a sort of symbol of their impotence, and run after their own tail, barking. (Also, foolish &amp; superstitious natures, they spend long hours sticking needles in photographs). </p>
<p>Expect more fun. We&#8217;ve been only eight months in this presidency and it really looks bad, no good, bad, bad, rotten, crappy, accursed, jinxed, bad, bad, bad (to quote a yesterday PJM article lead) -</p>
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