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Roger L. Simon

Government Surveillance: the View from Misgav Am

June 9th, 2013 - 11:07 pm

The Shiite village houses, it was explained to me, had no glass in their windows, the better to get their weapons out fast to fire at the Israelis. Who wants the inconvenience of glass between you and the despised enemy? No matter that it snowed in winter in this part of Galilee. Hate is hate.

I’ll take the risk of being obvious and say, when you’re in Israel, you’re never very far from global conflagration. The number of religious lunatics out there is staggering. The Tsarnaev brothers may have been closer to the rule than the exception.

So we are in a serious conundrum. Much as our civil liberties are precious, so are our lives. And so is the civilization that preserves our freedoms. Ironically, as technology advances, we may depend more than ever on the morality and good judgement of our leaders.

Recent events have shown Barack Obama not to be strong in those areas — to put it mildly. Unfortunately, however, few politicians are. And it is extremely difficult to know in advance who will be until they have been tested. As with the case when we send emails with private information, we may simply have to hold our noses and go forward.

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All we need to know about how much trouble we are in is that Obama was able to defuse the hole episode by telling the MSM that "no one is going to read your emails or listen to your phone calls"

Well Mr. Superstrawman strikes again. As if that is the problem. Did any of the Rhodes scholar reporters and news anchors do a quick mental calculation of how many government workers it would take to do that anyway? The problem is that when someone who might get in the way of the regime's agenda comes into focus . . That is when they read the emails and listen to the phone calls. And this will be done by a much smaller group - probably those re-assigned from the Cincinnati IRS office.
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I don't know, Roger. All of you Johnny-come-lefties seem to be on the wrong side of this. I don't think your worldview has yet been properly aligned. Perhaps the Constitution and Western Heritage courses at Hillsdale online would help. They're free - just as our Founding Father's hoped we would always be.
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In Israel, they are surrounded by enemies who wish to obliterate their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness because of merely who they are as a people...and the government is designed to protect them.

In Obama's America, we are surrounded by enemies who wish to obliterate our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness because of who we are as a people,...and his government is designed to ensure that happens during his tenure.
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It's really pretty up there, Roger, though its greener in March. The view into Lebanon, I mean. Haven't been up there in a year or so but I still have a nice memory of it. Easy to forget, just looking at it, how unpleasant it can get from time to time, thanks to Hezbollah and their masters in Iran.
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living in science fiction. more to come. all of it worse.
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Has anyone else noticed the Federal Government will exacerbate a problem and then claim the need to take away liberties in order to fix it? These politicians refuse to seal the boarder, they bring in those on visas from countries teeming with the enemy who end up disappearing and so on. No, with new technology we STILL CAN protect our constitutional rights. Nothing says all technology thought up needs to be implemented or allowed here.
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" Nothing says all technology thought up needs to be implemented or allowed here. "

How're you going to keep out all of this technology thought up? Social change has already happened, it can't be legislated away now or "prohibited". Prohibition just eggs on the really interested.

This cyber-stuff ignores national borders.
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One must consider exactly why the government accumulates such a broad range of data, and why its value is so limited.

The government insists that terror can come from "anywhere", and no source is more likely than another. There is thus no reason to focus on any source, and certainly no reason to "profile". So it casts a giant dragnet, sucking up everything without discrimination. It's the same reason everyone is expected to subject himself to scrutiny and personal examination going through an airport (except Muslims, for whom we must respect their culture and personal modesty).

But lacking any conceptual framework and analytic skills to make sense of this mountain of data, it's not surprising it's brought such meager results - arresting one Islamist terrorist trying to enter the country, for example, as if a more focused effort might not have accomplished as much or more.

Consider the case of the Kahane assassination of 1990. Prosecutors left behind a mountain of documentation, much of it in Arabic for which the FBI had insufficient translators. But since they "got their man" and there was "nothing more to see here", they failed to prevent the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center from the larger cell. Why assume the FBI, DHS and CIA, convinced there's no such thing as Islam-based terror, will make sense of all the data accumulated by the NSA, except perhaps after the fact, if even then?
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They'll make sense of it, alright. The problem is their concept of the problem. Citizens are a problem, if you are tyrannical in your thinking. They'll be able to identify the enemy, as they see it, just fine. They see me as the enemy, and I reciprocate because of that.
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I don't buy this idea:

" Why assume the FBI, DHS and CIA, convinced there's no such thing as Islam-based terror,...."

Surely they know very well where this terror comes from.
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Nothing like a visit to indian country to to focus the mind.
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"Privacy, as we once knew it, is over. "

If so, then the Bill of Rights is over.

The liberty of America’s past
Buried in darkness and shadows cast
Erased through all of eternity
No more hope for humanity
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ironic that we rightly pillory Al Qaida as the Stone Age Barbarians they are, incapable of building the planes they flew into the WTC. The irony is that they were prescient in communicating by human messengers and not trusting technology.
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All we need to know about how much trouble we are in is that Obama was able to defuse the hole episode by telling the MSM that "no one is going to read your emails or listen to your phone calls"

Well Mr. Superstrawman strikes again. As if that is the problem. Did any of the Rhodes scholar reporters and news anchors do a quick mental calculation of how many government workers it would take to do that anyway? The problem is that when someone who might get in the way of the regime's agenda comes into focus . . That is when they read the emails and listen to the phone calls. And this will be done by a much smaller group - probably those re-assigned from the Cincinnati IRS office.
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What shocks me is the number of people who have no problem losing their privacy. They actually agree with the sentiment, "If you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear." Here I thought we were innocent until proven guilty.
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Losing privacy for commercial gain......isn't that the whole concept behind these "Facebook" and "LinkedIn"?

That's not affected "innocent until proven guilty", unless you're the subject of an enraged spouse's discovery on "FaceBook".
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The other head scratcher is "well Merle, we just have to do this to protect ourselves against terrorism" when the surveillance is domestic not foreign
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Unfortunately we have many recorded instances of our Government actively breaking the law to gather information. The PROMIS software scandal of the 80's is one glaring example of criminal activity by our government.
When people accept we have no constitutional right to privacy, then the government will certainly encroach further, since the only obstacle to government is the people saying NO !

The rights enumerated in the Constitution did not change with invention of internet, just as they did not change with invention of Radio, Television, telephone, or other device. We must simply insure government understands we are watching them as closely as they are watching us. And as sure as we can be placed under mass surveillance, they can be voted out of office until we have true representation and the Constitution is again followed.



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And the 2nd-A didn't change with the invention of repeating firearms either.
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