Benghazi: The Democratic Party Will Be Lucky if Obama Loses
Even to someone like me who never much liked Barack Obama, it’s hard to believe he would do such a thing. But he did. And, pathetic as they are, some of the reasons for the prevarication are painfully obvious, like trying to convince the public that al-Qaeda was on the run when, if anything, the reverse was true. Al-Qaeda and its myriad clones were making inroads across the region. AQ, after all, was an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood, which now controls Egypt and, soon enough, possibly Syria.
But it all came down to election-year politics over the graves of dead Americans. This will come back to haunt Obama in a manner no one can fully foresee but cannot be good. In an election he cannot win except by a narrow margin, Obama will have no real mandate to govern or to push a program. (He doesn’t have one anyway, even if he had a mandate.) He will be president again by default. There will be a vacuum and, as we all know, nature abhors a vacuum. It will soon be filled. In fact, it’s being filled now.
Benghazi!
“…we in the new media will be here to make sure attention is paid. We have the power to do that now.”
Due in large part to you, Roger and PJM. For years it’s been my second bookmark after Drudge…and since the Daily Caller went downhill especially.
One of the downsides of new media, low editorial standards. How did Roger miss the huge new story laying out the details of the Benghazi attack that came out before this piece did?
“CIA officials on the ground in Libya dispatched security forces to the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi within 25 minutes and made other key decisions about how to respond to the waves of attacks on U.S. installations on September 11, a senior American intelligence official said on Thursday.
Officials in Washington monitored events through message traffic and a hovering U.S. military drone but did not interfere with or reject requests for help from officials in the line of fire, the official said.
The information emerged as officials made available on Thursday a timeline chronicling the U.S. response to the Benghazi attacks in which Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, and three other American officials died. The material appears to refute claims by critics that officials in Washington delayed sending help to the besieged personnel.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/us-usa-libya-cia-idUSBRE8A102T20121102
What a load of crap. That article contradicts every known fact about the timeline of the attack, and supplies no new details.
The CIA team drove around looking for the Ambassador while the embassy was under attack and all direct support was denied. That’s supposed to make us feel better?
Using known facts with a twist is how deception works. And how does this justify the low editorial standard claim? If you single source anything, especially information, you expose yourself to multiple downsides. All the apologist explanations can’t avoid the question, why was the ambassador dispatched to Benghazi that day that was so important, and why with minimal security? An interesting interview:
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/benghazi-october-surprise
Seems to me that they have had over seven weeks to come up with this story, and I think that is just what it is, a story. It does not correlate to what has been revealed thus far. Somebody is being told to cover for somebody else’s behind.
So true. We have to read these statements with the mindset of people who quibble about what the meaning of is is.
“There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support,”
The way this administration operates, even if this statement is true we can’t assume that it means anything more than that they didn’t use the exact words “stand down in providing support”. And where were the orders TO provide support, beyond the minimal assistance from the embassy in Tripoli?
“No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate,”
Major Washington CYA for sure. It’s a presidential decision, nobody else. This is just CIA making sure they don’t get blamed.
This whole story is simply an effort at giving the media enough cover for the usual “nothing to see here” story, so that they can move on to vital national priorities like proper Porta Pottie planning for the NYC marathon.
Were you on the email chain that put that disinformation piece together? That whole enterprise yesterday had all the marks of a “JournOlist” style campaign. A few know facts, a lot of deliberate vagueness, e.g., how many members of that immediate “relief team” and where did they come from – and on whose orders? For someone smarter than lefty idiots like you, what is between the lines that field level CIA staff and contractors had an “Oh, Shit” moment and tried to aid the Ambassador on their own authority. By the time they got to him, he and his PIO were already dead but they then were able to evacuate some number of Consulate staff to the CIA installation which then was itself attacked. It is here that the plaintive calls for help issued and were denied by the Communist in Chief.
“general Tso” chicken……seems appropriate for a troll.
So now the lies and rewriting of history begins. They had 8 years to rewrite the 2000 election with a lie a day. Now you and your ilk try to twist and shade more lies to change the massive narrative being built from all directions..including testimony under oath. Now who are we going to believe: Obama and his minions or testimony under oath? Actually I don’t think I’d believe Obama under oath, but that is a different part of history.
CIA testified that there was nothing done (on their part) prior to the attack, and did NOT refute testimony that the two SEALS were told to stand down 3 times in the CIA annex. No, there is no way your drivel is going to be accepted anywhere. Your attempts to toss a life line to this two bit Marxist who happens to be our president will not work. Just stay home on election day and let us bring in the adults.
Keep drinking the kool-aid. Sooner or later even spin masters like yourself will get tired of it.
And that’s the Obama campaign heard from. Now, back to the truth…
Sorry General, the CIA is NOT responsible in any way (except as decent Americans) for protecting embassy personnel!
The State Department is responsible! The CIA was just acting decently, there presence probably wasn’t even acknowledged until after the attack. Obviously there is more to this story, but what we know is horrible.
And the parts we CAN know, what Obama said and did that night, what Hillary did that night, that they deliberately mis-directing and lying for two weeks after, even to the father of one of those killed. But they refuse to talk about it like teenagers trying to cover up their mistakes.
The partisans are buzzing like fallen beehive. I don’t blame you, this site has been feeding you all a line for several weeks now. It’s tough to face up to that being all it was: a line.
So spin away my darlings, I don’t blame you. But let at least a small portion of the lesson here seep in over time, and next time you might not so easily take the line.
When did the President explicitly provide cross-border authorization. THAT’S THE KEY. Without it, there could be no mission to support them. And with it, there will be a paper trail with time/date stamps…
Obama lied, Americans died.
That’s hilarious coming from an obnoxious KoolAid drinking lib. Talking about buying the big lie.
I wrote the PJM story on Cross-Border Authority, and posted this comment after it, but it also fits here, so here it is again.
The current “blame CIA” story mentioned by General Tso is part of the White House’s obfuscation effort. More smoke. (I am counting Hillary as being part of the Obama/Jarrett/Axlerod/Michelle team that is actually directing the nation.)
The point is not the percent of CIA compared to State Dept in Benghazi, or how soon they went from the annex to the consulate on the initial rescue attempt. Or how soon the guys from Tripoli got there. Putting the spotlight on the CIA for a few days buys the White House more time, a few days, an eternity just days before an election.
But don’t go for the Magician’s feint: “Look at the bad CIA!” Keep your eye on the ball, which is the lack of outside military rescue, which was waiting to go in Sigonella for many hours of the seven hour battle of Benghazi. At any time Obama could have granted CBA and the rescue force would be inbound. It’s important to note that the flying time from either Tripoli or Sigonella to Benghazi are the same. So why make a big issue of when the CIA contractors left Tripoli on a chartered flight? (As we know, they were already “in country” and not bound by CBA rules.)
By the time the six CIA “shooters” from Tripoli finally arrived at the annex in Benghazi, they should have been met by a hundred Force Recon Marines, who already had the situation well in hand, with USN and USAF assets controlling the high ground clear up to space and satellites.
Getting side-showed by the CIA’s puny ad-hoc and chartered “rescue assets” in Tripoli is ridiculous. Keep your eye on the main thing, the rescue that didn’t happen, by the entire U.S. military that was ready, willing and able to go, on a moment’s notice, the minute the POTUS granted an execute order including CBA.
If he had done it, we would know it, because the White House could produce the orders. If they existed. No execute order, no CBA, no rescue mission.
Matt, nobody is blaming the CIA. We’re just reading the timeline of what happened on that night, in which the CIA played a large role.
Look, I get that the site has a large investment in this yarn you all have been spinning about Benghazi. Looking at the front page and the comments, I would guess that half your hits over the past two weeks have come from providing new Benghazi theories to an eager readership. Clearly the powers-that-be at PJM aren’t messing around when they picked you, an author of fictional military stories, to help build their fictional Benghazi narratives.
But at some point, don’t you think that the folks here will have to make at least a partial acknowledgement of what actually happened? Or is it going to be full-metal conspiracy from here on out?
General Tso, when you accuse people of “spinning a yarn”, perhaps you should be specific about what yarn they are spinning. Your modus operandi seems to be to substitute condescension for arguments. We believe that only the President has the authority to authorize the sending of troops across national borders, and that he did not grant that authorization, and that had that authorization been granted, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty would probably have survived their battle. Which part of that do you deny? Where’s the “yarn” in that?
Since you posted your critique, people have told you that it is irrelevant, not that it is factually incorrect. That’s because your facts don’t contradict our facts, only your interpretation does.
GT, you are missing the point of the article. What happened before, during and immediatly after the attack is not the issue. The President lied. That is the issue. That is the point. And if we, the American public accept being lied to, then we deserve more of the same. Do you accept being lied to by the President? Don’t answere me. You have to answere to yourself when you vote.
Your pathetic spin once again obscures key questions. Yes after an initial delay the cia guys in bengazzi indeed did all they could. A small team was also sent in from the main embassy at Tripoli. But the big unanswered question is where was the vast US military? Where were the marines, the special forces, and air support like C130′s, fighters with smart bombs, and armed drones.
It is possible the ambassador died too quick to save. But the cia annex guys were in a long 8 hr firefight, with the last 2 cia heroes dying near the end of it by mortar attack. If air support and elite ground forces had been sent there right when the embassy attack first started, the 2 brave cia guys could have been saved. I lay that lack of action, amounting to a craven betrayal, at the foot of the cowardly trio, Hillary, Panetta, and Obama. And I have yet to hear any sensible answer from any of you dem spinners to explain why no military reeinforcements were deployed in time.
So why then did the Lying Liars Obama, Clinton, Carney and Rice lie to us so thoroughly and in such a unified manner for so long at every venue from the White House press room to the Letterman show to the Sunday shows to the UN? Surely these distinguished liars had this so-called “information” from the CIA, right? And from the first minutes of the crisis! Yet they lied to us for weeks. Liars!
You clearly did not read the article.
I agree – I read PJMedia at least five times a day – and they always have the most thought provoking articles.
Rock on Roger!
The cold hard truth has never tasted better!!!
Any chance you guys can get Mr. Krauthammer on here?
That dude is my hero.
If Roger is correct what could that mean, Obama impeached and Joe Biden as President! I shudder to think of the consequences!
Dan , If you don’t know by now you never will that We The People have a fraud and usurper sitting in the White House going by the name of barack hussein obama using a stolen social security number , forged birth certificate and forged selective service registration card to prove he is a legal sitting US President . We The People must demand the US Congress honor their oath to the US Constitution to protect and defend that constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic . The fraud and usurper barack hussein obama is holding office illegally . The US congress and the US Supreme Court know that this pice of garbage barack hussein obama is not US Constitutionally qualified to hold office . They are hoping he will lose the 2012 presidential election so they wont have to do their job . But as I have said before We The People can not have a legal presidential election in 2012 when the current administration is an illegal one.
Whether through electoral defeat or impeachment, Obama must be destroyed. And he will be.
Sundog, you are precisely correct.Whichever way this election goes down, it is irrelevant to his fate. He will go down, there is no way around it.
And most importantly, the players surrounding him are equally culpable, and one chief culprit stands out. She is lethal, as is Huma Abedin, but I digress…
Nabbing her – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/02/valerie-jarrett-her-mischief-making-capable-of-upending-western-civilization-the-unofficial-buck-startsstops-at-her-door-addendum-to-barack-hussein-obamas-hidden-hand-commentary-by-a/, plus her twin devil – Huma Abedin- will set America back on its right (no pun intended) course!
Hi Adina, What so you think of the Presidents friendship with Eli Wiesel?
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/02/elie_wiesel_to_write_book_with_barack_obama/
God forbid even if he wins. The inquiry must continue, Hussein O and Hilary should be branded as traitors, and soo is the Democrat party.
IMPEACHMENT
Let’s start planning, now.
1. We will need a Republican Senate. To be certain, the US House in the hands of the Republicans will do the ground investigative work and will vote to impeach. But we will need control of the US Senate. If we don’t get control in 2012? Yes, we can leave Obama with a historical legacy of terrible proportions, but he must be impeached AND convicted.
2. If we don’t win the Senate in 2012, we must immediately focus on taking the US Senate in 2014. This means that if a Republican Bozo the Clown can win an election against a Democrat, and Bozo promises to vote in favor of conviction following impeachment, we must support Bozo. No more Christine O’Donnells (“I am not a witch”). Or idiots like Akin in Missouri. No more answering media questions about rape with heart-felt answers (STFU). Republicans must take the US Senate in 2014 and must vote to convict Obama following impeachment.
3. Biden must be impeached as well. He was in the room at all times. He participated. He must be impeached and convicted.
4. Hillary Clinton must be impeached. The US Senate must vote to remove her as Secretary of State.
Let’s get started now. Mark the goals on your calendars. Roll up your sleeves.
Impeach and Convict: Obama, Biden and Hillary.
Whoa there pardner…..While you are correct on all counts, you neglect one very VERY important detail. We have a man child in the position of Speaker of the House. unless Boehner is thrown out…really thrown out, none of what you are contemplating will matter. He has to go…period.
If we can get a Republican majority in the Senate I think we will also see a new Boehner. He must feel very impotent by being rendered nearly useless by the likes of Harry Reid foiling the House’s every move.
Wouldn’t you love to see Boehner replaced with Trey Gowdy?
Can we just be clear that impeachment is simply not going to happen.
First, the Senate is more possible than the pundits are saying, but still an outside shot at best.
Second, I hope it’s clear by now that democrats will circle the wagons. Fast and Furious is far worse than Benghazi (sorry, but as bad as Benghazi is, a preplanned multi-agency effort to covertly arm Mexican drug cartels and then cover it up is FAR worse). Most Democrats couldn’t care less. Whistleblowers, transparency, protection of covert agents’ covers, Darfur, the anti-war movement, all the bellyaching over rendition and surveillance and targeted killings — they all stopped the day the same policies were re-stamped with Obama’s name. Let alone the perennial payoffs and vote fraud and stimulus corruption. The only principle that’s ever at stake for them is Winning.
So there’s your impeachment.
Ultimately, the path to victory is to 1) retake the GOP from Priebus/Boehner and the statist republicans like Lugar and Murkowski. 2) Focus on state-wide and local races, exerting influence in the primaries and winning them in the general. 3) Support and reinforce the Tea Party republicans in the House. 4) Where possible, continue Andrew Breitbart’s work undermining the most powerful and corrupt leftie institutions.
That’s true whether Romney wins on Tuesday or not. If he does, great. If not, that’s really bad. But ultimately, what we do next is the same regardless.
I’m afraid you’re right.
Watergate was possible because the MSM controlled the narrative. When Nixon appeared to be lying – not anything particularly clear, mind you – his own lawyers back out. Democrats, to a man, have zero concern for the truth. We saw that with Clinton. Plus the MSM, after ititial reluctance, pushed the Watergate narrative hard.
This cannot happen on the other side. If Bill Clinton, with his myriad crimes, could not be removed, no Democrat can.
Only Republicans can have scandals. (Sex scandals are a partial exception, and only on a lower level.)
Don’t forget Eric Holder! He didn’t have anything to do with Bengaizi but there’s still a couple of dead border agents and 300+ bumps in Mexican roads because of him.
Honestly, if Obama is reelected and the full truth comes out about Benghazi, he won’t be president for long. Given that we don’t have the full truth yet, and what we do know is downright damning (for example, Gen. Ham being relieved of duty for attempting a rescue), I’d venture a safe guess that the rest of the truth will condemn him to resigning the presidency. The administration didn’t fight hard to obfuscate for two weeks so they could avoid calling it a terrorist attack. They fought hard to obfuscate so they wouldn’t have to talk about how Obama, Hillary, and Panetta watched those men die on the live drone feed, and how Panetta issued a stand-down order to all the forces in the area.
If I weren’t so anti-conspiracy-theory, I’d say it looks like they intentionally let Stevens die (revoke the SST, deny extra security, then fly in a drone to watch everyone die while preventing troops from coming to the rescue). But I hate drawing conclusions without conclusive evidence – so I’ll leave it at concluding that Obama is unfit to be commander in chief, and is a liar, and is responsible for the deaths of Stevens, Smith, Woods, and Doherty.
And awful thought. The “ifs” are what will get us all. “if Obama is reelected” … hello President Biden.
Foolish thinking. The patent lies and the continuing coverup of this magnitude and duration, with a complicit MSM, completely silencing everyone at the W/H, State, CIA, FBI, DHS, Pentagon, major commands and all their spokespeople prior to an election deserves far more trepidation.
There are by now at least hundreds of agency workers and serving military in the loop.
If Obama is re-elected, he’ll simply shut down the resistance; including our valued PJMedia site.
Great point…I haven’t seen it anywhere else, either. If this were a movie plot, there is no question that the ambassador was set up. I refer to the movie, “Clear and Present Danger”. The State Dept pulls out support for SWAT teams operating in South America in anti drug cartels actions. This sounds a lot like that. I am of the opinion that Obama had Stevens up to no good. And it was probably another Fast and Furious operation. He knew he could withstand all criticism until the election. If he wins, no one says a word about it after the election..it dies, as we strive to “put it behind us”. If he loses, No ONE will prosecute this twit as we will all be so happy to see him gone. Tell me if I’m wrong…..
I don’t think it had to do with an attempted assassination of Stevens. I think he was either meant to be “kidnapped” and held for ransom of the blind sheik, so that Morsi gets his sheik back and Barry gets his kudos for being a great negotiator and hero just in time to plead no prep time before the economic debate with Mitt. I think it’s also possible it was planned in advance to take over the consulate similar to the Tehran embassy takeover and that could explain why those in the CIA annex were ordered to stand down and why prior pleas for extra security were ignored. If you’ll notice that the Ansar al-Sharia bunch surrounded the hospital where Stevens was taken, it’s my opinion that they were hoping he survived so that they could “capture” him again. A dead ambassador won’t get them back their sheik. I also think it’s possible that prior US military security was denied because the less who knew about the weapons stash being transferred through Turkey to Al Qaeda in Syria the better for this administration. There was also probably an agreement that no resistance would be given, hence, the CIA telling Woods to stand down. It could very well be that he interrupted a hostage-taking. Also, there were 2 groups of rebels there, the al-Sharia bunch and Morsi’s guys. I would assume Morsi’s men were there for the ambassador because he’s been attempting the sheik’s return for months in negotiations with the administration and perhaps the al-Sharia bunch were there for the weapons. just guessing.
As a president who was “selected but not elected,” …
If that happens, I will thoroughly enjoy watching the right wing squirm.
Pure schadenfreude, and a taste your own medicine. Remember who won the popular vote in 2000?
- styx
I am thinking maybe you didn’t understand the article. It is not about the popular vote…it is about how a Commander in Chief betrayed his own.
You ignorant ass.
An American Ambassador murdered, sodomized and dragged through the streets of a islamist hell hole while the president watched in real time, not only refusing to intervene himself but stopping others from doing so, and all you can do is repeat factually incorrect canards from twelve years ago.
Just remember, even the New York Times concluded that GWB won Florida.
And if Al Gore had simply won his own home state he would have been president.
So, now we are facing the very real possibility that a sitting President of the United States has committed acts of treason against his own countrymen and you, you ignorant ass, want to whine about Bush.
Well, Bush isn’t president anymore – Obama is – and he has become an existential threat to our very Republic.
And to be truthful, I am sick to death of listening to people like you. You and your ilk have done enough damage. It’s time for you to shut up and go away.
Oh, I agree that Bush won Florida. Bush won more electoral votes than Gore, so he became president fair and square. But Bush lost the popular vote.
Same scenario is likely to happen to Romney.
Can we make a deal? If Romney becomes president, can you shut the h@ll up, and acknowledge that America does not want to live in your fantasy land? Go back to your cave, collect guns, and write a conspiracy newsletter?
And, if Romney wins, I promise not to say a single thing until the next elections.
Deal?
Incidentally, where was your outrage against Bush when some 3000 americans lost their lives in 9/11?
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2012/11/02/us-officials-counter-reports-on-benghazi-attacks
Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday that CIA security officers went to the aid of State Department staff less than 25 minutes after they got the first call for help from the consulate, which was less than a mile from a CIA annex. The detailed timeline provides the first in-depth look at how deeply the CIA was involved in the rescue attempt, and it comes amid persistent questions about whether the Obama administration responded as quickly and effectively as it could to the siege.
The attack on the 11th anniversary of 9/11 by what is now suspected to be a group of al-Qaida-linked militants killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
U.S. officials described the timeline in a clear effort to rebut recent news reports that said the CIA told its personnel to “stand down” rather than go to the consulate to help repel the attackers. Fox News reported that when CIA officers at the annex called higher-ups to tell them the consulate was under fire, they were twice told to “stand down.” The CIA publicly denied the report.
I don’t see how anyone without an agenda can just swallow some timeline that has been leaked by anonymous sources to a known Obama media fanboy. Apparantly, the Obama administration’s policy is “if you are not under oath then it isn’t lying.” Please remember that the “it is all because of a repulsive video on Youtube” line was only punctured when an actual human being was put before Congress and subject to perjury laws. This administration, including but not limited to the President of the United States, the Secretary of State and the Ambassador to the United Nations has already engaged in disseminating demonstrable lies and dis-information to the American public.
The only way to get to the bottom of this is to put people under oath before Congress where they are subject to legal sanctions if they lie. Of course, it isn’t perjury if it can’t be proved a false statement. Why is this matter still “under investigation”? It doesn’t take 6 weeks to find out what happened in Washington, DC. It may take a while to figure out what can be proved true and false, so one supposes as soon as they can come up with story that fits the documentary evidence they will come out with their report.
All it means is that the brave people on the ground did what they were supposed to while the higher-ups bungled around.
And what was the result of this rescue attempt? Four dead Americans. And what was the administrations response? It was all due to an anti-muslim video that had only a handful of views. A BS line spoken by the divider in chief, his puppet monkey vp, shrillary klinton, and the UN ambassador in front of the UN, and this deception “ran” for almost two weeks!
By the way, in case you hadn’t noticed, Bush is not running, his reelection is not the issue. This unethical, truth challenged poser is the one up for reelection and his ethics and competence are the issues.
Great contingency plan: let’s charter a plane and then get detained at the airport by Libyan security officials. That is either a lie or total incompetency.
Oh, I agree that Bush won Florida. Bush won more electoral votes than Gore, so he became president fair and square. But Bush lost the popular vote.
So, exactly what was your point then? Or do you not have one? I thought not. Bush won the presidency, period.
Same scenario is likely to happen to Romney.
No, Romney will win in a decisive landslide. The blinders are off vis-a-vis Obama. He’s is in a freefall.
Can we make a deal? If Romney becomes president, can you shut the h@ll up, and acknowledge that America does not want to live in your fantasy land? Go back to your cave, collect guns, and write a conspiracy newsletter?
No, and GFY. This is a nation of laws, not of men and certainly not of false messiahs. I will live under the rights bestowed upon me by God that no government can deny me. This nation is demonstrably weaker in any manner in which you wish to gauge as a direct result of the malfeasance of Barack Obama and the other statists that have run amok in the past six years.
And, if Romney wins, I promise not to say a single thing until the next elections.
The time for you and your ilk to be silent has long since past. If you do not wish to live under the clear words and meaning of the United States Constitution then please, please leave. I have no further patience for those who wish to impose their extraconstitutional nonsense upon this Republic. Your day has past. Go in silence.
Deal?
In case I wasn’t clear earlier, GFY.
Incidentally, where was your outrage against Bush when some 3000 americans lost their lives in 9/11?
Nowhere to be found. I supported GWB 100% in his response to the attack upon America by Islamists and continue to support his efforts to this day. Was he perfect? Of course not. He is human and falliable. But his place in history will be secure for his steadfastness in waging war upon those who attacked us.
It is people like you that have foisted a Cryto-Muslim traitor upon this nation that I reserve my outrage for.
Good day, sir.
So I take it there’s no deal?
-styx
Styx, you have an amazing grasp of the obvious.
“Can we make a deal? If Romney becomes president, can you shut the h@ll up,…”
Well, you see, there’s this little thing called the First Amendment that says we don’t have to. Now I do understand that that your beloved Hussein Obama showed his contempt for the Bill of Rights when he caused Nakoula Biseley Nakoula to be arrested for daring to act as though America were a free country, but that’s always been the typical antics of any Chicago Democrat and hardly a reason for us to stop exercising our civil liberties merely on the sayso of one such as you.
But thank you for confirming that hatred of Free Speech is endemic to all of liberalism rather than merely an aberration on the part of Hussein Obama and Hillary the hand puppet! It allows people to see the intrinsic villainy of the Left more clearly. ^-^
No deal here liberal stooge, it’s a fight to the finish for the future of the USA.
Incidentally, where was your outrage against Bush when some 3000 americans lost their lives in 9/11?
riverstyx,
You are a fool.
Responsibility for 9/11 rests with Bill Clinton. He ignored bin Laden’s declaration of war in 1996. He turned down numerous opportunities to take out bin Laden. He was more interested in being fellated by an intern.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/military/july-dec96/fatwa_1996.html
It was George Bush, who told the National Security Advisor, to ignore the constant alarms about this terroism stuff. It was Condi Rice, who ignored her duties, to the President, and to the nation, and did as she was told by the President. BUSH is to blame for 9-11, along with Ms. Rice, who continues in denial to this very day.
xioding you’re a lying sack of crap. Bush had only been in office a few months when 9/11 hit. The liberals in the Senate would not let him put a cabinet in place because they were being petulant children over Gore’s fiasco.
Obama on the other hand and his foreign policy clown posse bet the farm on the alleged “Arab Spring”. They managed to empower the Islamists all over the Middle East . When the chickens came home to roost in Benghazi, they chose the cover-up over responsible action.
Bill Clinton’s administration founded the “Visa Express” program that granted the 9/11 hijackers entry based on the word of their travel agent.
The bulk of the hijacking team was in the US before Bush was inaugurated.
Today we learned that the administration not only got months of warnings about Benghazi, but a few hours before the attack were told there were signs of an impending attack.
The left went berserk with their “BUSH KNEW” lies based on a memo that said nothing more than “bin Laden aspires to carry out an attack on US soil” — nine months after Clinton’s policies let the attackers into the country. How will they deal NOW with their golden-boy messiah having gotten multiple specific, actionable, and timely warnings of the Benghazi attack?
“Can we make a deal? If Romney becomes president, can you shut the h@ll up, and acknowledge that America does not want to live in your fantasy land? Go back to your cave, collect guns, and write a conspiracy newsletter?”
You, riverstyx are a perfect example of what is wrong with the Democrat party.
How about this deal.
Why don’t you accept that Bush won the 2000 election fair and square, and Al Gore tried to steal it.
Also Barack Obama knew what he was getting into when he ran for President, and hasn’t been up to the job. And Bush has been gone four years so take responsibility.
You leftist seekers of a Messiah in the form of Obama are the ones living in a fantasy world.
Accept these things and We will shut up.
1) What, precisely, could Bush have done to prevent the Twin-Towers attacks on 9/11? Hindsight is 20/20, but there is no similarity between those attacks and the ones in Benghazi. Certainly President Bush didn’t refuse to send assistance to soldiers under attack.
2) Don’t forget that this is a Republic, not a democracy, and that there are good reasons why the Founders put in the electoral college. The college is meant to balance the popular vote against a distribution by state. Please study your history.
Stewie: Very well, Brian, and what are the stakes of this wager?
Brian: Why don’t you shut up for about a week?
Stewie: I accept your terms! And if I win….?
Brian: I wasn’t betting. Why don’t you just shut up for about a week?
No matter how many times you say it it remains untrue: Gore did NOT win the popular vote in 2000.
Say what?
I’m not familiar with this particular conspiracy, care to fill me in?
Sorry riverstyx, Bush inherited 9-11 from Clinton.
Because only 9/11 “Truthers” blame Bush. The rest of America blames al Qaeda.
The difference between 9/11 and Benghazi? Benghazi was totally foreseeable (and foreseen) and preventable. Bush wouldn’t have sent the ambassador to Benghazi, and even if he had, he would smoked those terrorists before a single American had been killed, and you and every liberal would be calling for his impeachment (again) for being so insensitive to those peaceful demonstrators against American hegemony.
Even if Obama and his media allies succeed in stealing this election, Obama-ism is going to die a long, slow, painful death in the weeks, months and years to come. This emperor has no clothes.
Outrage against Bush for 3000 lives lost in 9/11? Are you crazy or just an historical revisionist? Bush had been president for less than 8 months after “inheriting such a national security mess from Clinton”…hmm, does that inheriting line sound familiar? How do you like it?
But back the real point. It was Clinton who refused to go after Osama for 8 years, not Bush. He had plenty of opportunity and knowledge to head off the attack. Expecting Bush to clean up Clinton’s failure and to fix the singular lack of resources in the Middle East at the CIA in 8 months is naive.
Get your head out of the sand.
Romney will win both, no problem. Barry’s going to get hammered. See you back here on November 7th, where a huge plate of crow will be waiting for you…
Okay, styx, give us your oh-so-objective opinion on a President who watches the slaughter in Benghazi and then jets off to a fund-raising party in Las Vegas, instead of sticking around to direct the action.
Unfortunately for you and your ilk, the genie is out of the bottle and you can’t put it back….The real story will out one way or another, and it won’t be good.
Yes river, we all remember that GEORGE BUSH won the popular vote in 2000.
Except, that is NOT how our government works. We all know you libs want to change the rules in the middle of the game to benefit your cause. But the electoral college is how we elect our president and it always has been. You don’t like it??? Tough crap. And that’s why your side cheats incessantly; because you can’t win within the system. Schadenfreude indeed.
YOU CAN’T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
This guy’s going down.
If he doesn’t, then he’s taking Lincoln down.
In what certainly seems like four score and seven years ago, American voters, deceived by a man of a true nature most foul and his media propaganda ministers, brought forth, upon this Nation, a profoundly warped man, conceived who knows where for certain, who is dedicated to the proposition that all men and women are created weak and subservient to his every insane will and whim.
Now we are engaged in a great battle, testing whether this nation, or any nation so burdened, and so assaulted, can long endure. We are met here on a great internet battlefield, with Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, with compatriots in the Tea Party Freedom Movement and on the radio waves, of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of our lives in honor of our forefathers who dedicated their lives that this nation might live vigorous and free.
It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
It is for us, the living, to be dedicated to the restoration of freedom, liberty, rule of law, progress and sanity which our Founders so nobly brought about. It is for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they so long ago gave the full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that our Founding Fathers shall not have labored in vain, that this nation shall have a rebirth of freedom, and that this government will once again be of the people, by the people, and for the people, and that we will not allow throwback abominations like Barack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, Leon Penetta, David Petraeus, the traitorous Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the quislings in the media to cause it, and it’s shinning light, to perish from the Earth.
God bless you, FeralCat.
When I read comments like yours I almost feel like my dad did not die in vain in Vietnam.
Salute
TO ALL AMERICAN AMBASSADORS:
Don’t be diplomatic.
Publicly quit in a double-page spread in the NY Times before the election.
You owe your fellow ambassador that much. You also owe your fellow Americans the truth, as you see it.
Since the majority of ambassadors are political appointees who owe their position to the fact that they are big suppporters of the President, both intellectually and financially, that isn’t about to happen.
That would leave the professional members of the Foriegn Service. As with other members of the state beauracracy, they tend to be overwhelmingly left of center by disposition as well. So there isn’t going to be any revolt there either.
One has to face the facts that regardless of which party controls Congress or the White House, the beauracracy of the civil service, foreign service, DoJ, the civilian componants of the DoD (as well as the Departments of the Army, Navy and Air Force) and all of the vast regulatory agencies of the federal and state governments are staffed and controlled by people who, whether through conviction or self-interest,have a stake in the maintainence and growth of state power. To expect them to take a stand that would serve to undermine either their ideological world-view or their self-interest (or both) would be illogical.
It doesn’t matter who appointed our ambassadors. The President may have appointed them, but he doesn’t have their backs, and they know it.
This is no longer a matter of supporting our ambassadors through understandable misstatements or a diplomatic faux pas. This is our ambassadors knowing that the President of the United States will not prevent them from being thrown to a screaming mob, murdered, and paraded through the streets.
Is that what YOU want to worry about every day when you go to work in the morning?
The story from David Ignatius detailing the CIA’s Benghazi timeline has been out now for more than seven hours but I can see no comment on it anywhere here at PJ Media. Am I missing something?
Ignatius mainly spins for Obama.
It also mentions nothing about the White House response– 6 CIA agents got in a truck and went to help. It was more of a spontaneous response than something that was orchestrated.
Having said that, it puts a larger nail in the Administration’s coffin– it makes that “it was a movie’s fault” lie that much more egregious. For my money, it’s the lie that stings the most. The CIA response to the immediate attack is going to be Monday-morning QBing for the most part. We’d like to think we’d all respond perfectly to such things, but we’ll never know. It’s the lie, the lie about the movie that needs to be exposed and explained. The Ignatius piece does nothing for that.
Furthermore, if this report jives with the CIA timeline, the CIA “rescue force” was hit by a pre-positioned roadblock, probably on the way in and the way out. That means everyone knew it was pre-planned within hours. Spontaneous protests don’t set up armed road blocks around a specific target.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/27/libyan-witnesses-recount-organized-benghazi-attack/
And says nothing about why gunships and/or rapid-response forces weren’t sent in.
Except we now know that the ships WERE on the scene. That’s why Woods was painting the mortars….and that’s what ultimately got him killed. They called off the gunships and left out to dry. That’s the kind of adults we have in charge. What a bunch of gutless wonders.
I wonder if they didn’t fly in any air assets is because they expected the terrorists to have surface to air missiles. Maybe even we just recently gave them some.
“For my money, it’s the lie that stings the most.”
Not for me – those lies didn’t kill anyone. What chaps my hide more than anything is the idea that a sitting president would sit on their ass watching the carnage and order those who could help to stand down. Not only is it cowardice it is dereliction of duty as POTUS/CIC.
You are missing a lot. Here is a review that completely dismantles your simplistic “analysis”…..
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332285/benghazi-dont-fall-misdirection-david-french
Thanks for that link, Big Bob. I’m just disappointed that Ignatius’ CIA timeline was not discussed here at PJM. It tells me that the writers here are not following this story as closely as I thought. Ignatius’ article is substantial, it has been posted in many news sources, and it should have been commented on at least.
TO ALL AMERICAN AMBASSADORS:
Don’t be diplomatic.
Publicly quit in a double-page spread in the NY Times before the election.
You owe Ambassador Stevens that much. His death, and those who tried to save him, deserve the truth.
If Obama gets away with being reelected, which I think is fairly unlikely, he will get away with Benghazi.
I agree Cat. If he wins we’ll have the media sob sisters pulling out their hankies and decrying any attempt to de-legitimize this sober and wiser Black Jesus (see …see…the waters have receded in the subways.) It’s a sign from Baal or Marx or whoever their God is.
Our chance to rid ourselves of this perverse grifter is next Tuesday or never.
Agreed. As much as I hope Roger is right, and he is a far more astute observer than I, I think Obama will skate through this. Once the election is over and the dust settles, claims of fraud, legal battles, whatever……the news will quiet down and attention will go elsewhere. Sad to watch the country I love so much go down the crapper.
Luckily I’ve only got a couple decades left, if I’m lucky, so I won’t have to live through the worst of it.
Spot on. He will bury anything and anyone who tries to bring out the truth. And which leader will direct the charge to get to the bottom of this treason: Boehner or Reid??? Guess again. This election IS the only option we have.
I keep hearing “Ohio, Ohio, it’s all about Ohio”. Well, if that’s the case, Bathhouse Barry is finished, because Romney is going to win Ohio 52/48, minimum. Romney is by no means ideal – who the hell ever is? But he’s a much better bet than the current loser.
You know, I was not so keen on Romney. But the more I see of him, the more I like. At the very least, I am SO CRAVING an adult in the White House.
Ditto here.
Over the ensuing weeks since the Rebublican convention I’ve taken the time to read more about Romney and I’m becoming more convinced every article that he will be a very pleasant surprise. I think he’s a very honest man who is willing to give it his all to set this country back on the right track.
IMO no matter what your political affiliation is honesty will be a welcome repast.
Every time I see the MSM disparage him for no good reason I’m going to make my voice heard. We didn’t have the tools in the 80′s that we have today to actively protest the crap they slung at Reagan. We do now. Every news organization has email – I say blast them for any and all dishonest reporting.
We need to stand up to the main tool of the left – the MSM – call them out on every transgression – every falsehood – every outright lie.
I have no idea whether Romney will make a great president or not, but he is quite obviously a wonderful human being, evident through his deeds, his conduct and the quality and graciousness of his family. It will indeed be nice to at least have a grown up that I can be proud of in the white house.
It will also be good to have dignity, grace, tastefulness, and appropriateness restored to the office of the president and the White House. No more Biden’s vulgar language: “This is a big f***ing deal.” No more crudities from Obama: “He’s a bullsh***er.” No more “lady parts” and no more repulsive liberal women claiming that voting for Obama is like losing your virginity. Ugh. This whole bunch is disgusting.
And it will be good to have a First Lady who dresses like a grown-up woman instead of a perennial adolescent.
Romney wasn’t my choice but the more I see of him the more I think he would have made a fine president in 2008. Now I don’t know if anyone is up to the task. He will do fine on the economy but a major war break out anytime and just about anywhere in the world. And what to do about the corrupt treasonous cabal that has been running the country for the last four years. I don’t see a bright future if all this gets treated like water under the bridge.
Roger, once again, you hit the nail on the big eared head.
An Obama win shouts out many things to the hapless Democratic Party and their hapless leader.
One of those shout outs: special prosecutor.
To organize the crimes, lies and misdemeanors in some semblance of order so prosecutors heads won’t explode when they try to organize their Bills of Particulars. In particular, Obama’s blunder killings in Benghazi.
I really don’t know one way or another, I have no proof. It would seem the President tried to cover-up his inaction with regard to the terrorist attacks at Benghazi, including, of course, both the annex and the consulate.
Calling a terror attack a “reaction to a youtube video” for two weeks after the terror attack kills four Americans sounds fishy to me. And gives a special prosecutor the smoking gun. The obvious, outright lie that Obama could never explain away.
Being President isn’t a game. September 11 was not an evening of liar’s poker. It was real life. And death.
When it comes to Presidential cover-ups, I’m reminded of the Clinton lies when denying he had any “sexual relations with that woman.”
If you remember, Clinton tried to argue that the term, “sexual relations” did not include their specific sexual acts. Clinton was a great parser of words.
Last week, Barack Obama played the same Clinton game of parsing words. And it worked. Let me remind you what Obama said about the terrorist attack on “Benghazi.”
The Denver reporter, KUSA-TV;s Kyle Clark, on Oct 26, asked, “where they (Stevens and Smith et al) denied requests for help during the attack?”
“Well, said President Obama,”we are finding out exactly what happened during the attack. I can tell you as I’ve said for months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and doing everything we need to.”
(there were a number two and number three, but for our purposes, they’re meaningless; they involved Obama’s comments on investigating what happened and bringing wrongdoers to justice.)
Now let me ask you a question.
Say you turn on the radio and you’re slightly off the station. It just doesn’t sounds right; lacks crystal clarity.
Well, if you’re a good reporter, you should have picked up that “off the station” sound when the President said “Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel.”
Reporter Clark should have stopped him right there and said, “excuse me, but what does that mean? What does the phrase, “securing our personnel” mean?
This “off the station” comment should have rang Clark’s BS alarm. Apparently, it rang no one’s BS alarm but Rachel Peepers.
If Clark asked that follow up question, Obama’s house of cards may have fallen all over the floor. Why? Because the phrase, at best, is a very ambiguous expression. At worst, it’s a military expression Obama was told to use to mislead the listening public.
“Secure personnel” means to have them stand down. In other words, from the beginning at 5pm Washington time, Obama was saying “no” to any rescue effort.
So if anybody asks any of the crack editors that man PJM whether Obama was disingenuous in his Denver Q & A, you now know what to say.
Since Obama admitted in Denver he was the one who nixed rescue efforts to save the four lives, you can tell them, “yes. Obama was the one who nixed rescue efforts.
Gee, Rachel, thanks for clearing that up.
I also should mention the entire Denver exchange had other misleading statements. But it’s late and sometimes I get a little tired doing everybody else’s work for them.
The Denver reporter Kyle Clark, should have followed up Obama’s claim that he gave three directives with the question “Who did you give the directives to? Because it looks like they didn’t get the message. Either they blew it or you never gave any directive.”
Roger, you have much more faith in the Propaganda and Lies Ministry than I do.
We can shout about ALL the scandals in The Lawless Presidency, but, to date…the propagandists have NOT responded to Fast and Furious,the New Blank Panters, the failure to produce a budget, the Delphi situation. the Solyndra fiasco, non-recess appointments, the bait and switch “penalty/tax” of Obamacare, the credit card security turnoff allowing foreign and illegal “investments” into his war chest, the entire litany laid out by Eric Cantor…..I could go on.
Doing his best Baghdad Bob imitation, Benghazi Barry has been lying through his teeth…that is, until he clammed up like a mob informant whose dog has been kidnapped.
But, his lying and the coverup now appears to be for a much darker and more sinister reason than just to run a Superman narrative about dealing a blow to al Qaeda and spiking bin Laden’s head in every end zone. The “dealing” with al Qaeda may indeed be a narrative that may never see the light of day.
The “most transparent administration ever” is concealing a very dark secret here. Benghazi Barry doesn’t want you to see it. And his Propaganda and Lies Ministry is going to help him hide the truth. They have been appalling so far. ON. EVERY. SCANDAL.
We are suffering through a Lawless Presidency. And the mass media propagandists are conspirators who intend to keep it that way.
I’m with you regarding the media’s culpability in helping to cover up Obama’s scandals.
They had a chance to shed, or at least appear to, their bias. We are now 4 days away from election day and they have clearly staked everything they can on helping protect Obama from his own ineptitude. Should Obama win, the media will necessarily keep on protecting him, either because of ideology or to protect themselves as well. Without the silence of the media in critical areas, Obama would not have been able to get away with many of the unprecedented actions that he has. Every time that they remain silent on situations such as Libya’s “kinetic action” that will only encourage Obama to continue his expansion of presidential power; safe in the knowledge that the media will back him up on it.
The state run Democrat-operatives-with-byline media needs to be our next target after the election, no matter who wins the election. Andrew Breitbart was correct to say that we need to win back the culture. The media’s ratings are already taking a dip, but we need to speed the process up.
Radical leftism is the enemy of free market Constitutional democracy.
Classic liberalism is not. It is …generally speaking…a different approach, usually softer and more “anything goes” socially, but does not abandon patriotism and love of country. We do ourselves a massive disservice when we conflate the two. We could live with a JFK, Hubert Humphrey, or Joe Lieberman across the aisle.
Radical leftism is a betrayal at its core. The mass media not only buys into the radicalism, the conspire to advance its cause and hide its true intent.
IF…one believes in a free market Constitutional democracy…they cannot be anything less than enemies of radical leftism.
IF…one believes that our information stream MUST give us, the “owners” of self-representative governance…the true and honest facts about key issues that impact how we govern ourselves…then they cannot be anything less than enemies of those who choose instead to lie, distort, photoshop and propagandize on behalf of radical leftism.
Radical leftism must hide itself in post-modern America. It cannot announce its presence. It must wear a disguise as something else. Radical leftism hides as classic liberalism…and we unwittingly (and rather stupidly) assist this camouflage by conflating the two. We give the mask an extra layer of credibility by not only accepting the fraud…but by breathing oxygen into it.
Radical leftism cannot sustain itself if the fraud is revealed. IF…the Propaganda and Lies Ministry was not bought, lock, stock and barrel…radical leftism would never win a national election. So, the Democratic Party and their conspiratorial media must act in concert. This leads ultimately to tyranny. The Lawless Presidency. Hidden scandals. Disguised intent.
IF one believes that our Constitution, our checks and balances, our founding principles are to be defended by sworn oath of our elected officials…then they cannot be less than an enemy against those who intend to overthrow that system and would give their life to defend against that overthrow.
We cannot do less.
I’m in screaming agreeemnt cfb. I’ve long been saying that a self-governing Republic like ours DOES. NOT. SURVIVE. when its information stream is as poisoned as ours is. I’ve often compared it to Pravda but, on reflection, it is far worse. People knew that Pravda was a lie and dismissed it accordingly but to many of our own citizens the so called MSM is objective. And while I know that things are getting better, what with FOX and alternative media and Talk Radio, the fact remains that in sheer volume the lying MSM still influences far too many – as can be seen in the current election polling.
Were we to have a neutral media – not conservative, just neutral – we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Because Obama would have been vetted 4 years ago and dismissed as, both nowhere near ready with his thin accomplishments and, as importantly, being far too radical. And the fact that 4 years later – with a record – this race is as close as it is, shows the power that the MSM has to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM THIS COUNTRY.
This actually goes beyond bias and showing preference. This is, in my opinion, malpractice of the highest order. Journalists (and I spit on that word but can’t think of a better one in the current discussion) have a job to do, just like all of us. But when one of us does his job badly – commits malpractice so to speak – few are affected. But when journalists do their job badly, when they commit malpractice, when they lie and distort and omit the facts, then the foundations of entire nations are shaken. For those that think I may be overdramatizing, just look at what is happening to the United States. The greatest, most benevolent country in history is on the verge of being turned on its head and the greatest experiment in liberty ever conducted is on the verge of failing. Because journalists and newsmen *spit* can’t be bothered to just do their damn job.
I’m with you on the MSM’s complicity on the cover-up of the lawlessness that is the Obama Admin. The MSM is hoping that the MSA (main stream American) won’t get online like you and I do to educate ourselves – to discover what really is going on. Because if they ever do then the MSM and the Democrat party is dead.
I wonder if this whole thing was a NATO agreement. It sure seems the pagan Holiday known as the Arab spring has been supported by same.
What was America doing helping the religion of peace in Libya fight the Col. in the first place? I know he was a bad guy, but he liked women, and was selling oil to Briton.
The American people have not been supported by the United States government for the last 23 years. It has been some NATO/UN agenda that the government has been doing the bidding of. Is the Euro trash monies going to DaOne an indication I am correct? Perhaps, it is the UN puke colored tie DaOne always wears, or the UN puke blue color on Air Force One.
@leatherneck: the American people have been deceived by the DP since the days of Woodrow Wilson (perhaps even earlier.) The US should have let Europe boil in her own ideas and perish. Instead we sent two generations of our young to die so they can finance their communist schemes with our blood, sweat, and toil. It is time to reverse the tide. A good first step shall be to send our “soi-disant le président” back to the circus he escaped from.
The fury of the media Bacchantes will descend on Obama and rend him to pieces when he loses. Nemesis will feed on his bones. Could such hubris end any other way? The drama will end as expected.
On the money. We all caught a whiff of it in the reactions of Obama’s fanatical supporters to his performance in the first debate. If Obama goes down, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow and their ilk will eat their beloved alive.
And they will do so because saw him as a means to an end and not the end-all and be-all. A tool. Not the Messiah. Can’t have a Messiah in a god-less society can you?
I think you’ll find that anyone with power is the “messiah” in a godless society.
While factually and in a “Real” America, you are correct on every point and assumption, should Mr. Obama win and regardless by what margin popular or electoral, we will not live in a “Real” America, but his liberal and near one party rule America. To that end, he will be the power, taken as he has done to date, by Fiat, by judicial appointments, with Czars, Unions and we can go on and on. Your reason has no basis under his victory sadly. As an example, no news group or person was more out in front factually and morally on Fast and Furious than PJ Media, yet nothing, I repeat nothing happened..he beat the system. And I do not see under a second term, with more flexibility, I presume to ignore the people, why the story, simply by replacing “F&F” with “Benghazi” will not have the same unhapy ending–Sadly for us all. He must be defeated to ensure justice and a Real America.
If Obama wins, this will be all swept under the rug and those who pursue it will be ridiculed and mocked by the political lemmings and sycophantic press. If Obama loses, Republicans will be too afraid to pursue it and act as though their cowardice is some sort of magnanimity. Either way he gets away with it and the horrendous episode will never enter a history book or the consciousness of any future generation. In fact, it has barely entered the consciousness of the current one. The country is filled with too many liars and not enough people who care. How do you think Obama got elected in the first place?
Dave, I don’t think Benghazi can be swept under the rug. First, with the government failing to secure the consulate building, separate competing news organizations got their hands on original sensitive documents providing detailed info of events surrounding the attack. Second, the Americans who died in the attack are photogenic sympathetic victims who appear to have been abandoned for political reasons. The family of Tyrone Woods will demand that a full investigation occurs. His story has heroic resonance on the political right. Ambassador Stevens and his story resonates on the political left. Third, there are survivors who owe their lives to the heroic actions of Tyrone Woods and others. The survivors will talk. It’s not to hard to see a bipartisan congressional Benghazi commission digging for the truth to honor the lives of those tragically killed. The story will gain news coverage after the election. The story will sell books and might even become a movie.
obama can not stop impeachment. obama can not erase “impeached” from his stained record.
Slick Willie seems to be doing alright with his stains.
No shit. Clinton is practically revered by the poodles, aka fellow citizens, that surround me. And if you ask any of them what exactly they revere him for, they will repeat – precisely – those actions that the Republican Congress dragged him into, kicking and screaming.
But they forget that last part.
I am becoming more and more convinced that democracy is over-rated. Most people are cattle and want to be herded. And that drives me nuts.
Many different agencies were “watching real time”. Possibly hundreds of people around the world heard Stevens or his colleagues pleading for help and watched the non-response and brutal attacks unfold. Doubtful all of them will remain quiet indefinitely. Especially if Mr. 0 is no longer president.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Democrats in the senate under Harry Reid will never NEVER allow this president to be impeached. Even if by some miracle we found 2 or 3 dems willing to vote for impeachment, it takes 2/3 of the senate to actually remove a sitting president. Obama is far more arrogant than Nixon, he will not leave unless lead away in handcuffs. Obama could be caught on tape raping a kid or giving weapons grade plutonium to the Iranians and you would not find enough Dems to make the senate vote 2/3 to remove him. The party machine has too strong a grip on them. How many took the plunge and voted for Obamacare knowing it would cost them their seat, because the party ordered them to? Even if the worst conspiracy theories about Bengazi were proven true the senate will not remove bath house Barry.
Agreed. And this tells you everything you need to know about the modern Democratic Party. They put Party before country. Every single time. I will never vote Democrat. Ever.
Agreed. The mainstream media will be as silent on Benghazi as they were on Fast and Furious.
Just watched a vid of Obama arriving in New Jersey to meet with Governor Christie. It strikes me, every time I see him running down the airplane stairs to the tarmac, just how perfunctorily he salutes to the military personnel who are standing on guard and smartly saluting him.
He’s a disgrace. He treats the military with disdain — witness his handling of Benghazi. Many in the military feel that this president and State Department don’t have their back.
They’re right. And Barry can barely hide his contempt for the U.S. forces every time he disembarks from a plane.
Great interview on Fox with Greta Van Susteren and former Marine Senator Pat Roberts (Kansas) on the effect on military personnel of the administration’s prevaricating on Benghazi: From Marine to Commander-in-Chief:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html
This Commander in Chief has never been in a physical confrontation in his life. The familiar and offhand salute is a show of cool not contempt. Not that Obama isn’t contemptuous of everything American. But when he’s on the tarmac he doesn’t see the military. He sees the cameras.
Like the air force jacket he has taken to wearing after the Benghazi cockup, The casual salute is strictly PR. It says “I’m one of the guys.”
“This Commander in Chief has never been in a physical confrontation in his life.”
Now, c’mon. He likely had a few tense moments when he was buying weed and cocaine.
Cool. Contempt.
‘Same thing when soldiers and American personnel are dying because of White House and State Department neglect and incompetence. Either salute properly or give it up altogether.
This commander-in-chief (sic) is a disgrace to the office.
But no matter how that ultimately plays out, Obama clearly lied (let’s use that word instead of the more polite misled).
Right on.
TO: Roger, et al.
RE: What Will It Be Like?
Take a look at what happened in Russia in the 1920s-50s. Pay close attention to the term ‘kulak’.
Enjoy,
Chuck(le)
[Be Prepared......]
P.S. Why do I say this? Because the county clerk/recorder, a Democrat, has just required my removal as a poll watcher, because, in my understanding, I could recognize what was going on in a sensitive ballot counting, electronic voting machine facility. And I wasn’t ‘happy’ with what I witnessed.
I would advise you to contact your state’s attorney general and as many media sources as will listen. And republican senators.
Let me be clear, al-Qaeda is on the run… to Syria, Libya, Egypt, Mali and a mosque near you.
I agree with the posters who suggest that if Obama wins he gets away with the cover-up. Impeachment is a political process and there is insufficient political will to impeach Obama. The GOP can barely muster the courage to politely, humbly, and beg your pardon sir, disagree with Obama, they’re not going to take down his Presidency.
The real danger for Obama is if he loses, then the long-knives will come out. The left will be looking for a scapegoat and Obama will fit the bill. Oh, think of the stories about “how he fooled us”. Besides the press will need a major reset to get their dignity back before they start attacking Romney, talking about the homeless, the high price of gasoline, the unemployed, the horrible economy, the wars in the ME, the looting in the wake of Sandy, and all of the horrible things the Republican President has been up to for the last 4 years. You don’t run a marathon without training, the press needs a tune-up.
Even to someone like me who never much liked Barack Obama, it’s hard to believe he would do such a thing.
Steady there, no need to pull the punch, other than out of misplaced professional courtesy to journalists who don’t deserve it.
There’s nothing cranky or idiosyncratic about loathing Obama and his defenders. The man’s a serial liar and fantasist at minimum, and it’s a reflex. A more complex professional diagnosis can wait until he’s a prisoner in the dock.
What do your guts tell you? Sans any last-minute blockbuster surprise, Romney will win, warts and all and perhaps handily, though the Stupid Party may (just) fail to win the senate because of well-known self-destructive behavior. That already filled vacuum will do the job and Barry will soon be running for cover.
If Obama is reelected he will get away with Benghazigate. The MSM will “sodomize” any and all politicians who pursue him in Congress and totally ignore all whistleblowers. There will not be any coverage. Only the new media will carry any part of this story. If reelected this story is gone. To the MSM and therefore, America, this will be a mere “bump in the road” (to the global caliphate.)
Unfortunately, I have to agree with RDG in that if re-elected, O will bury everything concerning the Benghazi incident and all the media sycophants will gather around like lap dogs for their pats on the head. Virtually the entire media has sold its soul to Leftist ideals, and it is now blind to the result.
If O wins, there will be no real congressional investigation, just as there was no real investigation after the Waco massacre. Bill Clinton and Janet Reno got away with murder because they still sat in the seats of power and media lapdogs needed their heads patted and knew which was the side of power.
Many times I have heard people say about those who rape, murder, child-molest, or defraud people of their life savings, “how do they sleep at night”. Well they usually sleep soundly and with no thoughts of what they did. People with high morals cannot understand why someone like O can live with himself since his entire life is basically a lie, but if you think O is bad, look at those he has spent his entire life trying to emulate: Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. O’s religion is the religion of Marxism, and nothing must ever contradict its “divine doctrine”.
I wonder if any one of those 3 saints of Marxism ever stayed awake at night fretting about his own evil deeds?
If Obama wins re-election (seems likely) then going after him on this looks like the right being petulant and inflating things and causing problems merely because it can. This is not a winning position. e.g. one of the commenters just mentioned Solyndra as if it were a scandal.
Solyndra is representative of poor judgement, indicative of failure to grasp how markets function. This is damning enough. But a scandal? No.
The problem here is that wben you have enough people yammering about Solyndra and then claiming Benghazi is a scandal as well then this cheapens the meaning and this just gets lost in the noise; the administration can easily claim that the right wing seems to think a private firm going our of business (Solyndra) is also a scandal, so why bother listening?
And they would be correct.
Solyndra isn’t a scandal just because it went out of business, it’s a scandal because many of the people involved in the company were heavy Obama campaign contributors. The idea being that the administration handed out a huge loan to a company that had no future, purely on the basis of campaign contributions. Basically laundering taxpayer dollars into their campaign coffers through select businesses. The same pattern shows up in other places, for example the cellphone company contracted to provide those millions of “obamaphones” is headed by a guy who donates very heavily to Obama and other Democrats. Follow the money, it’s not that some of the companies to receive stimulus money went bankrupt, it’s that god knows how much of the stimulus went to people who’d contributed to O’s election (with the understanding that they would again.) Pure political payback, crony capitalism at its finest. That’s the scandal.
It wasn’t the misjudged investment in solar that is the scandel of Solyndra. It’s a scandel because the money gauranteed to Solyndra directly benefitted individuals working for the Obama campaign/administration.
DOE managers placed these investments ahead of other investors/loanholders in the recourse line, in case of failure, which was predicted/warned about by many sources inside and outside gov’t. And the early investors all got screwed just like the GM bondholders; except for Obama’s acolytes.
Maybe those STEM courses aren’t as tough and objective as they’re made out to be if someone as stupid as you can be an engineers. Or maybe you’re a random sanitation engineer, but actually most janitors I’ve known were smarter than you too, so maybe you’re just some lefty useful idiot being paid by some Soros front.
Solyndra and pretty much everything else in almost a trillion dollars worth of “stimulus” was simply a raid on the Treasury for the benefit of Comrade Obama’s cronies. The poor lefty criminals had been in the Wilderness from ’94 to ’06. While the Republican controlled Congress was too stupid to cut the lefty front groups off altogether, they did really rein in some programs that finance the left and under GWB even had the audacity to do a little auditing and insist on financial reports from the Democrat front groups. Makes it hard for those public spirited employees of all the unions and non-profits to keep up the Bimmer and the Bimbo, so Comrade Obama had to immediately get some walking around money back in his backers’ pockets.
Cut back on the aspartame…its eating your brain
Right. I’m forced, at the point of a gun, to invest my money in Solyandra Company, and in return I get absolutely nothing, whether they succeed OR fail.
But, there’s no scandal.
People in this country are so far gone, that they don’t even think there’s anything wrong with the government just flat out stealing from them.
I see a thorough investigation into Benghazi as being a tombstone capping Obama’s political career.
I obviously never liked or cared for Obama. That having been said, there are a few things I hope and pray any president, regardless of political party, would do if Americans were in serious trouble. Top of the list would be to come to the rescue of Americans who are being attacked by radical Islamists. I find the tought that Obama did not send in the military to help these poor souls in Benghazi not only hateful, but very scary too. To think that we have a president that would rather see Americans die rather than admit a mistake about Libya shakes me to my core. Nixon may have been many things, but nobody died in Watergate. Clinton may have been impeached for all the right reasons (although NOT convicted by the Senate), but at least he didn’t kill anybody.
But Benghazi is way, way, different. If this isn’t an outright coverup, it shows an amazing amount of bureaucratic incompetence. This is even more amazing since these very communications problems within the Federal bureaucracy were supposed to be fixed after 9/11/2001. Now we find out that we’re no better than we were over 11 years ago?
I doubt that. We HAD the elements in place to save at least two of those men in Libya (the two Navy SEALS), but nobody bothered to use them. Why? We WILL find that out. And if it was because we had a president who sacrificed Americans because he didn’t want to look bad over a failure in post-Gaddafi Libya, then God help him. Because that’s the only person who will help him when the whole truth comes out.
Re: Clinton
It wasn’t what he was impeached for but you may have forgotten Waco.
Modest observations:
Hillary Clinton at State is now in full-frontal “can’t stay, can’t leave” mode. If she resigns voluntarily as a result of Benghazi, it’ll still be a first-magnitude political disaster for Obama. Conversely, if Obama forces The Hillster out, I’ll wager she’ll starting blabbing about what really happened creating, in turn, an even bigger catastrophe for His Majesty. Hell hath no fury like a potential 2016 woman presidental candidate scorned.
In any event, we all know her hubby, Arkansas Bill ain’t going to take this kind of s*** lying down from a jug-eared Cook County community organizer still trying to punch above his weight class.
Oooooooo-weeeeeee! Pass the popcorn!
The entertainment hasn’t begun. I speak as one who was glued to the TV throughout the Watergate hearings. A very sizable percentage of our legislators are former prosecutors and good ones. The Roman circus of old pales beside our lawmakers when they get to carving up the loyal stooges of a corrupt president on television.
Those who imagine this collossal cockup can be buried are out to lunch. The morale of every soldier in our armed forces hangs in the balance and every responsible senator and congressman well knows it. A failure to pursue a vigorous investigation of the Benghazi betrayal undermines national security.
“I got your back” is one of Obama’s favorite cliches. Its a lie like everything else about this cheap Chicago hustler. He needs to answer for his actions publicly to the American people.
There’s a reason O worries about terrorism….from veterans
I stand by my opinion of a couple of weeks ago that Bill and Hill are out for revenge against Soros and his puppet. The Soros Cabal would like to blame somebody, anybody and throw them to the wolves but the trouble with Cabinet level people is they come with their own powerbase. Patreaus is too well known, too popular, and too military; he also knows too much. Panneta is joined at the hip to the Clintons. The Clintons will never forgive and forget the bum’s rush they got from the Soros Cabal in ’08. People like the Clintons, poised to have HRC become President don’t just meekly sheathe their swords, accept the triumph of their opponent, and dutifully serve in his Administration; somebody in the Soros Cabal has something on the Clintons and threatened them with it. They’ve been gritting their teeth and waiting for an opening ever since.
I’m willing to bet that HRC has that memo she sent up the chain endorsing Stevens’ request for additional security and maybe even admonishing the President about the security risks in Libya. Obama is notoriously lazy and unengaged, so it is a safe bet that a man who skips half his briefings doesn’t bother to read his briefing package either. The way you take out high-level elected and appointed officials is to give them the opportunity to be themselves; don’t ask me how I know. If by chance he read the memo and acted, then HRC just lives to fight another day. If something bad happened, HRC has the tool to cover herself and lay it all on Comrade Obama.
I don’t dismiss the rumors that Stevens was engaged in something both bad and dangerous, maybe the fake kidnapping so Comrade Obama could heroically save him, maybe the gun running. Either could be true and either is very dangerous with the kinds of people you’re dealing with in that part of the World. That said, I’ve never known a lefty apparatchik with any sense at all of the risks involved in their position; they just don’t think that way. So, HRC is playing a double game here; she was in on whatever the Regime was trying to do in Libya that day but she was also running a number on her boss. We’ll see! I’m betting Comrade Obama knows he can’t take her out or he’d have done it already and I’m thinking he knows she can wound him, perhaps mortally.
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RE: Bolding
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Roger,
You are right on with your Benghazi assesment here. I do not agree with you on the aside issue of Chris Christie with Obama. Christie has been a longtime Romney supporter AND he is a very astute politician as well. He would NEVER do something that would be risky to Romneys election chances a week before the election. Christie would only buddy up with Obama at this point if he was absolutely certain that this election was over a long time ago and that Romney was going to receive a significant margin of victory. Gov. Christie was only being magnamimus to the president as a prelude to his humiliating defeat.
Christie is well aware that the last Republican Govenor to cozy up to Obama was Charlie Crist here in Florida. That encounter effectively ENDED Charlie’s political career. Christie would only risk that if he knew Obama already had one foot out the door.
An astute politician Christie certainly is. Grasping and opportunistic as well. Christie cravenly panders to his huge Muslim constituency. His craven pandering to Obama is entirely in character.
Bottom line: You never want to see a President Christie in the White House.
As an NJ resident, I have come too see Christie as a gas bagging headline grabber with little in his political arsenal other than his big fat mouth. Hooray… he stood up to the state government unions… sort of. His media persona is apparently not his bargaining table persona. In short, he’s a RINO likely to get primaried out of office with his Obama Sandy photo ops as featured evidence of his idiocy.
I encourage those who normally don’t have contact with people in our military and who think all is quiet and well to inquire of them what the mood was on our military bases (domestic) the night of September 11th as this was happening.
There is a seething mass out there. Those in the military do not take kindly to their men being left behind.
This scandal is not going to go away quietly.
The time has come to address in words he has likely uttered and should understand. “Stand Down” Sir.
“How did the government know about some video that only had 19 views after 2 months on youtube? Rumors online are a funny thing. Things pop up and fill in gaps. How/why did they have this video ready to take the blame so quickly?
In June the terrorist attack on the consulate was able to breach the wall. Security was large enough to turn them back. Requests for more security were denied and the security force was reduced, leaving them open for another attack. Locals were hired to fill in but with out weapons. A month later the video is online, but no one is watching it. More rumors online about the promise the president of Egypt made in getting the blind sheik returned to Egypt and an American president negotiating about it. But how do you release the mastermind of a terrorist attack on US soil? It’s not like when we pressured the Brits to release the Lockerbie bomber for humanitarian reasons.
But what if you had a consulate taken over by a mob angry over a video, hostages and threats of war. Then the great won steps forward to broker the peace. A blind imprisoned terrorist leader for the lives of the American ambassador and his coworkers. Just a few short weeks before an election (October surprise) with a horrible record to run on. People reminded of Carters failed hostage crisis and the safe resolution of this crisis would help the polls. Only the Seals weren’t in on it, they fought back, they rescued the bait and were then left to die. The “mob” angered at the resistance take that anger out on the ambassador. Now spin, blame and apologize.
Wasn’t it strange at the UN obama made a point of stating that the US government had nothing to do with the video and also blamed the Constitution and our freedoms on causing the mob violence. As the Egyptian president demands blasphemy laws to outlaw insulting islam. Rumors and timing are a strange mix. How bad is this regime that I can now be this paranoid, yet not surprised.”
This response was posted by ‘Enderr” on a thread titled ‘Why did Obama let them die’ on American Thinker. Sounds preposterous doesn’t it until you think of all the other LIES that the USURPER and his Regime have perpetrated on the American people.
“One way or the other, Obama will pay. And as he pays, through the relentless accusations of an impeachment, inevitable or otherwise, his party will be constantly on the defensive, the reputations of their leadership incalculably besmirched. Though they do not realize or choose to ignore it now, the Democrats will be lucky if Obama loses on November 6.”
Translation: If you re-elect Obama, the hyperpartisan, America-hating Republicans and their stoolies will continue to throw poop at the President for another four years in the hopes of bringing frivolous impeachment proceedings against the President, shutting down the vital functions of government, and basically making fools of themselves, just like Newt and his band of merry pranksters did back in the 1990s. Tell me, how did that end up working out? Oh right – with Americans blaming Republicans in congress, Newt getting run out of town on a rail, and Clinton gaining immense popularity. The president has spent the last four years deftly dodging your fecal projectiles, and I’m sure he’ll do the same for the next four. As a wise guy once said, “If you coulda, you woulda.” But you can’t, so you level cryptic threats of puerile obstruction. How brave.
You fail to discuss the crimes we are talking about here.
I guess that you belong to the mass of slaves that obey to any order.
The dissent in the USSR called people like you “homo sovieticus”. No brains, only obedience and lies.
Congrats, good way to use a human life.
Roger,
You and Dr. Krauthammer are the only two who can articulate the truth.
Thank you
I have said this before, and I apologize, but:
If Obama is defeated, we as Americans need to be very nervous to whom Obama will sell vital national secrets to.
Also, Obama if defeated will also sign scores of treaties with the UN that will destroy our ability to act on the world stage.
I hope whatever the election outcome is, the politicians find the truth about the one and nail him for treason and make everything he has done null and void.
Wishful thinking.
Obama may sign them, but they are only binding if the Senate ratifies them with a 2/3 vote. At present, that is unlikely. With a lame duck president, that is even less likely.
I’ve always feared the lose lose scenario…I just don’t know how it will play out. Revenge on the minds of some, regardless of outcome, will make the 7th an ugly day I fear.
Here’s may favorite, terse summing-up phrase of Roger Simon’s concerning our chameleon affirmative-action president:
“….with the conscienceless calm of a Middle Eastern potentate at on OPEC meeting.”
Think about that one.
Obama is actually a fraudulent, empty chair, just as shown by that unforgettable skit of Clint Eastwood’s.
The 53% who voted for Obama should be ashamed of themselves for their shallowness, but sadly, they don’t have the wit to be ashamed; and our Nation has suffered. The 53% don’t have the wit to sense that either, so this election may very well be a close one.
If Obama survives, I think Holder goes to jail or hell, a la Ron Brown. Chris Christie was being vetted as an AG appointee this week along the Shore. Christie would be wise to take it, seeing he might face a primary challenge, an energized Corey Booker, and the simple reality that he would have to push off the table and hit the gym if he has any chance at the Presidency.
Jesus might be a Republican, but Christs tend to be RINOs!
Simon is focused on the tip of his nose; too close. If Obama wins the MSM will demand payback. I think it has been their scheme all along to win him the second term in return for erecting high barriers to entry for media businesses. Expect licensing and equipage charges to skyrocket.
Benghazi will turn out like Fast and Furious; mostly hot air from the right, no indictments or convictions. The Imperial Presidency, in the fashion of Bush and perfected by Obama will expand. Life will get pretty bad. The middle class will cease to exist except as a rearranged statistical invention.
Most importantly, though, the States will rapidly muscle up Federalism, give the SCOTUS a certain grief by demanding the SCOTUS reverse a century of commerce clause doctrine just for starters, plus illegal immigration powers and protections. If the court balks, expect a successful call by the States for a Con-Con.
If Obama wins The last battle for the Republic takes place in the States.
Roger, if Tapper’s article is your idea of the walls crumbling, I think you’re desperate. I don’t blame you – it’s anguishing to see this traitor getting away with this, but that’s how it’s playing out.
Tapper’s piece was nothing less than a white-wash of the most important issues – a preemptive strike against the truth by pretending to ask real questions.
The World Will Be Lucky if Obama Loses
Think a minute: IF Obama is elected AND he is impeached, who is next in line as our president? Let’s all pray that Romney is elected both with popular and electoral votes.
Big headline in today’s local “rag”, “CIA response in Libya detailed”. Okay, for the sake of argument, let’s say this spin job is based on someone’s view of the truth.
Why did obama, biden, clinton, the chippy sent to the UN, and vitually all of the MSM continue to blame the whole thing on a d*mned video? Why did they continue to LIE about the whole thing for almost two weeks? Only the truly brainwashed (or maybe brain dead) will buy into this “spin job”.
Of course, we won’t address the timely release of this spin job, just 5 days ahead of the election.
Pravda will protect their love child, no matter what. Benghazi will be treated as a political ploy by bitter losers. If they can cover it up in the heat of a campaign, with Fox News all over the story, covering it up after an election if the Fraud wins will be a picnic.
Without public support, Republicans will not be able to convict the Fraud.
The only way to defeat him is Tuesday, at the ballot box.
In large measure Obama probably calculated he could get away with lying about Benghazi because the MSM would not seriously challenge him. With the rare exception (Tapper) this has played out. The media should be held as accountable as Obama for Benghazi and all the laws this President has openly broken. And the murder of those 4 Americans and those who died as a result of F&F lie at the feet of the media as much as the President.
Why would they be held accountable? They haven’t been held accountable before. Ann Coulter is the only one publicising the pure lies about Sacco and Vanzetti- 70 years in, they are still taught in school.
Duranty and the New York Times still have Pulitzers on their mantel.
Walter Cronkite died respected and revered, and employed.
David Halberstam writes big think books that inspire TV series.
The Columbia Journalism School is still prestigious.
Why would this time be any different?
“Even to someone like me who never much liked Barack Obama, it’s hard to believe he would do such a thing.”
OK Roger, now you can take the gun out of your mouth.
All of this was inevitable from day one. The most sure thing about Obama when he took office is that he would screw everything up in regards to the military’s accomplishments in the war on terror. He has not disappointed. Instead of destroying the enemy he has provoked, encouraged and strengthened them, all over the world. Our Military is paying the price in terms of life and suffering.
The President was corrupt before he was president and he still is the most corrupt person ever to be in the White House. The man is a pure liar, a true son of Satan.
Just think of how complicit the MSM is to such evil, that should make you shudder. But of course it is why you do what you do.
it appears a couple of trolls have resuscitated and their line of attack is still- BUSHHALLIBURTON
I’m sorry, Mr. Simon, but you’re once again assuming that a lawless thug-ocracy will abide by the rule of law (since when? it’d be the first time) if Congress did actually get its act together and impeach and remove Obama if he wins re-election. Come on. What single thing has this guy done in 4 year (or, indeed, in his entire life) that makes you think he’d pay a bit of attention to Congress telling him he was fired?
You better hope and pray we can get rid of him on Tuesday (if he even agrees to go after losing, if the vote is close enough for lawyers and fraud to change results) becuase he’ll not be leaving the White House if he “wins” a second term. Not unless he decides to leave on his own.
The truth about Benghazi must be laid bare, if only for the sake of the military. Benghazi is, among other things, the heroic story of two former SEALs who disobeyed unjust orders, men trained in the military code of ethics who gave up their today so that all but four of the 32 that Obama abandoned in Benghazi might have their tomorrow.
The circling of the wagons around Obama & his minions will continue no matter what they do. Obama could roast his children & dog over a pit barbecue on the front lawn of the WH & eat them & these mindless shills of the MSM & the political arena would still do all they can to protect him. It’s beyond cult like; it’s sick, twisted & demented.
Sorry, but the new timeline seems to verify what I’ve been saying all along. The management didn’t know what the hell was going on, they were afraid of possible negative consequences, so they did basically nothing. At the very least, they moved with excessive caution when decisive action was required. In the aftermath, their main concern was pacifying angry Muslims.
And yet they had profuse communication of the situation on the ground. Why did they stick to the video narrative?
There’s more to this story. Somebody was selling the video story because she didn’t want the islamists snuffed out.
That will leave our country standing still. As the impeachment of Clinton and the threat of impeachment for Nixon show, nothing else will be moving. We will be consumed by the arguments and processes of impeachment. And, I do believe impeaching Obama will be the only choice we have if he is reelected. We, the people, are mad as hell about Benghazigate!
I hope all of you are right about O eventually getting the boot if he wins. But we all know that the MSM will do just about anything to save a sitting Democratic president. A token few will report some things about Benghazi. But it’s just a safety valve certain networks open now and then to placate the public. The reporters of the MSM aren’t where they are because of a deep dedication to impartiality or even the truth.
Nobody, but nobody can lie like an Arab. I would change this to read nobody can lie like a muslim. Obama who may or may not be muslim is certainly pushing their agenda, to the detriment of a free America.
The Democrat Party can drop dead (and that would be a real good thing…if it simply ceased to exist).
America will be lucky if Obama loses.
“his party will be constantly on the defensive, the reputations of their leadership incalculably besmirched”
Um, no, Roger, the only reputations that are being “besmirched” is yours and those of all the yahoos like Rep. Daryl Issa and the whole hate-talk radio and cable crowd that have spent their time 24/7 for years ginning up one faux controversy after another about Obama. To name a few; the illegal and unconstitutional czars!!, Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers!!, Solyndra and the whole green energy effort!!, Fast and Furious and the secret agenda to take away America’s guns!!, the new Black Panthers!!, voter “fraud”!!, etc, etc.
You’d think you’d run out of spittle to spew at a certain point but you and the rest of the scandal mongers seem to have an endless supply and hardly a day goes by without a new one. Frankly, I hope you keep it up. It’s great to watch you foam at the mouth over nothing and then seem genuinely shocked and dismayed when the MSM and everyone else just doesn’t seem to get it. To freaking funny, Roger. Keep right on besmirching.
I guess it’s only a scandal if a Republican is involved. Standard double standard. And BTW, it’s “too” not “to”. As in “Too funny.”
No, it’s only a scandal if it’s something wrong and it REALLY happened.
And, thanks for the pointing out the spelling error.
Surely, the deaths of the Border Patrol Agents murdered by the weapons of Fast and Furious is nothing wrong.
And neither the murder of our Ambassador is wrong, in fact it is more of a road-bump someone has said. That same someone watched the murder in real time, thanks to the video fed by the drone, and did nothing to protect our Ambassador.
It’s a videogaming “president”, with real people who get killed.
Nothing wrong with that.
We must understand every kind of mental disease.
Speaking of mental disease, good luck with your treatment for Obama Derangement Syndrome.
I’m sure you understand that a mind is a terrible thing to lose, especially since you seem to have lost yours.
The troll keeps attacking personally but he / she is a little short on the facts.
What about those scandals that are “nothing wrong” in your opinion and that involve the death of American LEOs, Soldiers, Ambassadors ?
“Facts”, Zangpo, I don’t think you can handle facts. If I thought you could, I’d take the time to give them to you but aren’t ready so why waste my time?
Seeing lots of these sorts of posts in several different places around the web and especially here at PJ Media. How odd that they all seem to use the same language and the same talking points. It’s either one extremely busy little intern in the White House basement making post after post using different names, or Journolist has resurrected itself and come galloping to the rescue of its dilapidated and distressed President. How nice that the White House is finally acknowledging the multitude of picador pricks and stabs have caused intense pain and bleeding. Usually at this point, the dumb beast staggers around for a while, and is then mercilessly dispatched and died. Take note of what your role is slated to be, B. Hussein.
D’oh!!, you saw right through our nefarious plot.
Damn you, NanGee, you clever and shrewd blogger, damn you!!
Keep on writing, and explain us why the so-called president watched the attack on the Benghazi compound for seven hours without ordering our troops to intervene.
Keep talking, the more you talk, the more we answer and the American People see who you are.
So you’re OK with all the law-breaking you listed?
Is it because you perceive the law-breakers as being on your side?
(You left out the illegal theft from the GM debtors.)
Um, WHAT “law breaking” are you talking about? I guess you missed my point so let me say it again, these are all FAUX scandals, there’s no there there.
And, oh year, I left out Michelle Obama planting an organic garden and plotting to make kids eat healthy food.
Sure, false scandals with real Americans dead because of the crimes of this administration.
By the way, you are right, the proper word is not “scandals”, it is CRIMES.
To a left-winger the only possible scandal that could ever occur would be if something happened that inteferred with the delivery of their welfare check.
They don’t CARE if the government is supplying Mexican drug gangs with weapons…as long as they get their welfare.
And, since the Obama administration is devoted to keeping the welfare state growing…it’s all good in their eyes.
I loves me some welfare checks, yawza, I sho do.
Don’t you just love it when liberals like obi-jon do racism and think they’re being oh-so clever and cute? The party of slavery, Indian removal, the Confederacy, Copperheads, the KKK, Jim Crow, Japanese internment, Bull Connor, and Orville Faubus. Democrat true colors always come through.
Too too funny, Dave, you actually think ME playing back to YOU the stereotype of that you and your ilk hold of the typical welfare recipient is an example of ME being racist??? Ditto the whole upside down and backwards summary of the history of racism. You see, Dave, you’re missed a few things here. Yes, the south was solidly Democrat for years and of course that means the Democrats of that age WERE racists. BUT, what you missed is that those very same people have switched to the Republican Party along with their long-held racist attitudes. Granted, they no longer lynch blacks but the basic instinct is still there and for SURE the overwhelming belief among conservatives is that most blacks live only for their welfare checks.
Ding, ding, we have a winner, people. Tell Dave what the Dunce of the Hour award is today, Cindy.
“I loves me some welfare checks, yawza, I sho do.”
Yeah, I know. That’s why way over 50% of the huge amounts of money stolen by and spent by the Federal Government every year is spent on some kind of welfare program.
Congratulations for telling the truth, btw. Lefties rarely tell the truth about anything, especially when it comes to why they vote for trash like FDR, LBJ, or the currrent idiot in the White House.
But, everyone knows it’s all about getting “free” handouts (i.e. the government steals money from people like me, and gives it to losers like you), and it makes no difference what a piece of crap like Barack Obama does, as long as the “free” handouts keep coming. He could rape babies on the White House lawn and scumbag lefties would look the other way, as long as they get their medicare and social security.
Hey troll,
thank you for making a list of some of the crimes of the Obama administration.
You forgot some details:
with the weapons that this administration gave to the drug cartels, Border Patrol Agents have been murdered.
With the help given to the muslim brotherhood to conquer North Africa, this administration has helped al qaeda to spread its bases from Mali to Syria, and incidentally this administration has helped al qaeda to get the missiles kept in the warehouses in Benghazi after murdering our Ambassador.
It’s very nice to see you laughing at all this.
I hope that all the American public read your comment, in which you laugh at the death of American LEOs, soldiers, and Ambassadors.
Typical of you subversives.
Write on, write a lot, America needs to see you before November 6th, as monstrous as you are.
Apologies, in the happy killing frenzy against the troll I wrote
“soldiers”
I meant
“Soldiers”
of course.
“…with the weapons that this administration gave to the drug cartels, Border Patrol Agents have been murdered.”
You’re wasting your time pointing that out to left wing Obama cultists. Murder of border patrol agents won’t interfere with SNAP handouts, TANF handouts, or Social Security handouts…and as long as that’s true, they’re not going to care how many Americans are murdered by Mexicn Drug gangs.
All that counts is getting that “free” money…and Obama is the guy who’s going to make sure the lefties get their handouts, so that’s who they’re going to support.
Sad, but true.
Does somebody pay you to spew this crap or are you really this stupid? Your writing and spelling is better than most lefty useful idiots, so maybe you do get paid by some front group because there are really only two reasons to be a lefty: you’re being paid to be a lefty, e.g. front group, non-profit, unionized public employee, union staffer, or you’re simply too stupid to actually function in a republican democracy and you actually believe lefty crap. Oh, and there’s a subset of the stupid ones; the young’uns who’ve not yet had time to recover from their education. They’re stupid and feel really, really good about it.
Art, ART, come on, little buddy, come on over here and let me give you a big hug and the loving “nuggie” you seem to want so bad. All this left vs. right vs. WHATEVER has got you all knotted up and crazy.
I learned a long time ago that a lefty giving me a hug meant he was feeling me up to find the soft spots. Keep being a smartass so you’re easy to find. After we restore a legitimate government, the roundup begins.
What’s “faux” here? Do you seriously think the Ambassador, Sean Smith, and the two SEALS are still alive somewhere?
Mary, the “faux” part is the conclusion that these unfortunate deeds where the result of something OTHER than lower-level – maybe even criminal – incompetence or oversight i.e. the failure to be more alert to the security situation.
To infer that there is something “impeachable” here on Obama’s part is, as I said above, simple more of the insane, spittle-spewing nonsense that has kept idiots like Simon curled up in a ball in the corner for the past four years slobbering all over themselves and rolling their poop into little balls to throw at Obama.
Yes, people died and that’s sad and unfortunate. To use that as fodder for the reich-wing conspiracy loonies is contemptible and disgraceful.
Sure, watching the video (of the Ambassador being attacked and murdered) FOR SEVEN HOURS at the White House without deciding anything is a lower level little mistake.
Sure.
Subversive assassins, that’s what these guys are.
They hate America, they hate our Troops, our LEOs, that’s why they don’t do what they should and they help our enemies to kill our Ambassador.
Oh, wow, look at that — one troll posts here and the whole thread blows up. I, for my part, apologize for even giving the troll the time of day. I should know better by now.
Catharting
Many of the people who post here have experience and expertise that give us particularly specific insights into the fraud of the man who calls himself Obama. Unfortunately, traction is limited when the press narrative is so obviously biased to the point of criminality. You have nothing to offer but regurgitated propaganda points. You know what they do to the useful idiots don’t you?
So, tell me, Bear, what DO they do to useful idiots. Since you are one, I’m sure you know.
That’s all you could come up with?
I’m still waiting to find out what they did to you as punishment for being a useful idiot. Is it just too painful to talk about? Did they humiliate you in some way?
But, hey, you deserve a break from the abuse so I’m going to share a little secret you’ll have to promise not to tell anyone else on this thread – especially not Roger; the CIA just gave a press conference and described in detail their attempt to rescue the Ambassador, a rescue that was underway within 30-some minutes after the first report of the attack. Within the hour a drone directed by the military (Pentagon) was overhead scouting the situation. After a lull in the initial attack, the rescuers were caught in a deadly mortar attack and that’s when the two former Seals were killed.
The Libyan military managed to get armored trucks there within a few hours and the survivors were taken out.
Does this sound like meme being pushed by Roger and his scum-sucking opportunists? Of course not because this whole pitiful exercise is about nailing Obama.
Good.
The final answer by the troll is that this “president” is an idiot like Carter, unable to use America’s military might to save its Citizens.
The CIA tried an attack ? I thought we had the Six Fleet in the Mediterranean and I thought that the immense military resources of Sigonella were one hour away !
No, the communist in chief sends the CIA ! And look, they lose !
And it is nobody’s fault.
As I said, these are crimes, not scandals.
Why would they resign upon seeing Americans killed in real time? This is Hillary:
Remember Waco?
Remember Ruby Ridge?
Remember the USS Cole?
Elian Gonzalez had a gun pointed at his face, while troopers knocked in the door of his uncle’s house. There hasn’t been a custody case like that before, or since.
Waco- the Branch Davidians might be a strange cult, but they’d been a strange cult living at peace with their neighbors for half a century. They lived in the same town as Baylor. The fundamentalist Baptist preachers who read their work said they were odd, but not incorrect. She still gets upset about icky fundamentalists. The fundamentalists lived at peace with the Branch Davidians. The violent leftist statists are the ones that killed them, not the religious right.
It’s right up the street from us- 2 hours away. I never knew that, until this spring. I have friends who live in cults in compounds in town, here. They have children. Are my friends going to go up in smoke because Hillary needs to make a point?
What happens when Hillary gets upset about Pentecostals? They bake cookies, and witness in Africa, and have children, too. Their entire church is about 100 years old, total. Each church is basically new. They have missionaries in Africa, in South America, in Asia, in the Pacific Rim. What happens when they get cross-purposes with her gov’t sponsored death-cult?
The Dems already suppress reports about rape among Peace Corps volunteers. Why would they tell the truth about rape among the ambassadors in the hands of violent Muslims?
They ignored the bombing of the USS Cole. That’s our military- our navy- our young men. They ignored that.
Why on earth would they behave any differently than they have ever, ever, ever behaved before?
ari – You have it about right, I think.
I always make this joke to Protestants: “As far as my Catholic Church is concerned ALL of ya’ll are heretics.” Which would also apply to Jews towards us Catholics maybe?
That Obama is guilty of something here is plain. Malfeasance? Criminality? Lack of leadership? Is this treason? Mheh, maybe not. That is for others to decide. Will he be impeached? Nope. Why?
For the same reason that Dingy Harry Reid has not been. Harry swore to “uphold the Constitution” as all Senators do. But he has not presented a budget to the Senate in 4 years. He has had passed budgets from the House in the last two but refused to allow them into the process. He has also made recent statements that he will not follow the Constitution should Romney be elected. He proudly proclaims his intentions to subvert what he swore to uphold.
And that is dereliction of duty. Failure to uphold his sworn duty and I believe an impeachable offense. Will it happen? No. Why?
Because DC and the US Gov’t is broken beyond repair. Beyond. Repair. It is time for another Declaration because the Gov’t no longer has the consent of the governed.
Th Democrat Party already has become the party of hate, racism and lies. They have no reputation to defend; no credibility. Pelosi and Reid finished off the party during the last 4 years.
One possibility that never gets full exercise is that he did all this on purpose–to assist the enemy. If a cartoon can make the muslims rampage, can you imagine a charge of treason against their insider over here? And treason is the charge that should be brought.
Will you please stop with the selected, not elected garbage. It is such a cop out. I don’t support 0, but for crying out loud, get your facts straight.
Welcome to the fact-free zone, Rick. Facts only confuse things, it’s so much easier to make things up out of your fevered imagination pumped up on non-stop hate-talk for four years.
Like the Rawmoney campaign said, “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers”. That could well be the slogan of the whole reich-wing hate-talk industry.
Great. The DU trolls are now out in force. Hey, guys, at least the former NKVD trolls during the Georgia thing a few years ago made reasoned arguments. Ya’ll just spew invective and hate.
Boring.
Why are the citizens of this great country getting in the gutter with Obama?!
He is destroying this country because he is arrogant, immoral, and a lying —!
Where is our moral compass? Have we lost it, or did we ever have one?! We should all be so disgusted, angry, and outraged, over what happened in Benghazi!
Four innocent men were sent to slaughter, because NO HELP was sent when it was
asked for 3 times! The aide and 2 seals are heroes who gave their lives for
others! This government rule under Obama sickens me to no end! All involved
should be held accountable for treason! Obama, Hillary, Panetta, etc. We have
to take this country back! We must NOT FORGET THIS! WE must HONOR these 4 by
STANDING UP on Nov.6 and ridding the USA of the destruction they have wreaked
on our society! PLEASE! Do what is expected of us! Romney/Ryan Thank You.
The Democrats with Pelosi at the front table…..if this isn’t colluding with our enemy I don’t know what will be….soliciting Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood associated C.A.I.R for political cash.
See:
“Dems Tap Radical Islamists for Cash
by STEVEN EMERSON AND JOHN ROSSOMANDO
IPT News
November 1, 2012
http://www.investigativeproject.org/3792/dems-tap-radical-islamists-for-cash…” End Paste.
Related…how do the Jews who vote Democrat rationalize this double-dealing?
Charlie, one of the insights I’ve gained this year is that some of the biggest anti-semites are Jews. Self-loathing is behind a lot of leftist thinking…
People are making too much about Benghazi. There are plenty of other things far more devastating that Obama has done and is doing. Coming EPA regulations are going to wreck farming and other agricultural sectors as well as flattening the energy industry. That will spike energy and food prices. Then there are the onerous intrusions of Obamacare and Obama’s control over the internet.
There is so much more that is worse people need to be focusing on than Benghazi.
So criminal negligence and complicity in murder is no big deal. Wow.
The outrage over this has gotten hella-goofy. All y’all have lost your marbles. Utterly laughable.
You think it’s “laughable” that O says: “We’ll find out after the election,” and the MSM alleged journalists let him get away with that? Why can’t we find out RIGHT NOW? If there’s a benign explanation for what happened, fine. That would benefit O, no? But for him to just obviously stonewall it … you’re OK with that? Would you have been OK with it if Bush did it?
Ditto the “hella-goofy”, Lonnie Wild.
Yeah, it’s all worth a good laugh.
An administration that gives thousands of rifles to the drug cartels, an administration that can’t decide in seven hours what to do to save our Ambassador, it’s worth a good laugh for the totalitarians and the subversives.
That is what Obama has been elected to do in 2008, transform America into a country of servants who obey the dictator.
And the trolls do obey well, no doubt.
I wonder what would now be happening if Woods and Doherty had survived. Obama would probably have them court-martialed. If Romney wins and if he is worth the salt, he should award posthumous Medals of Honor to both. It would not be the first time that soldiers, even ex-soldiers, who disobeyed orders were so awarded. Give the military the respect they deserve.
As long as Harry Reid is the leader of the Senate, Obama knows Reid will block any attempts to investigate in the Senate.
We are experiencing the worse corruption in the U.S. government that I have not witnessed in my lifetime.
Pundits keep saying that O has no agenda for a second term. If ONLY that were true: He does have one, but he can’t spell it out just as he didn’t four years ago: His agenda is to finish the “transformation” of America into a euro-style social democracy. He’s already made a lot of “progress,” and he plans to do more. No Congress? No matter — he’s perfectly prepared to rule by decree.
Since the attack lasted for SEVEN hours, there was AMPLE time to get some back up in there. Obama denied our people their right to life, so I sure hope we deny him the right to try to lead this country. And, he DEFINITELY will pay, if not in this life, he will when he faces the Almighty God!
The trolls infestation is a very good symptom. This story is biting deep.
Go trolls ! Show to America how much you do not care about our Police, Soldiers, Ambassadors !
We know what you think : they are all “servants of the one percent, they are bad, let them die “. That is what Obama thinks about our Ambassador, a road-bump.
Non-optimal.
If Obama wins, Biden will be President within a year.
Roger, you haven’t even begun to comprehend the fundamental dishonesty of the political establishment in this country. They will look you right in the eye and lie to you and it’s your problem if you point out the lie. All they care about is getting more. Right after PrezBarrys famous “You didn’t build that” remark Chicago Trib columnist John Kass wrote about his father and uncle who owned a supermarket on the south side of Chicago. Every week a tall skinny guy and a short fat guy both of whom worked for the city would show up and help themselves to a shopping bag full of choice steak. Tall skinny carried the steaks out the door, short fat said “Thanks Greek”. That’s who Barry and company are. And that’s not even the shame of it. The shame is that 58 million Americans either think it’s OK to do business that way or choose to look the other way while the pols steal the steak. It’ll be the end of us and it won’t be near as long as people think.
If Obama get re-elected. I doubt anything will happen to him. The media has shown they are his lap-dogs, they will stop at nothing to protect him. It’s far down the road for the media to change their tune now. They created this mess and now we’re all stuck with it. Which is what Obama planned. He knows 4 more years of his kind of “politics” will drive this country right into communism, again this is what he wants.
Roger Simon is delusional. If Obama wins, we will be faced with a massive tax increase, more spending, more control over our lives, more restrictions on doing business, an ever-weakening military riddled with perverts, and the LSM will say nothing. We will be faced with Obamacare, we will be faced with more and more regulations that will make us a USSR, not a Europe. We will be faced with a government that does as it pleases by executive order. We will be faced with debt that will pale the $16 trillion debt we have now. Debt ceilings will be increased by decree, if anyone even bothers to decree them or declared no ceiling.
Obama ben Ghazi wants to thank Thane36425…
Remember Benghazi! The new battle cry of the true American patriot!
Why does God want Obama to win? Who understands the mind of God? Notice the Love storm . This is sign God put his finger in man’s world but why? Notice the new love storm coming for the day after. The gods have entered our world and are preparing to take it over as we see in the rest of the universe . Once we were gods but we lost our memory because we wanted this . Now we are like corn ready to be harvested by the gods claiming their own and they plug one corn cornel at a time to turn a human back into being the gods and we look like unborn babies to them in need of restoring to partake of the great Love feast.
But those human beings who are called and chosen see this God love as eternal hell because it is not made for the human being and Jesus offers heaven to the human being for those who are called and chosen.
So now that Obama will be elected the gods will have their divine right to abort your world except for the chosen of God
There are other great storms that come I call them hybrid souls who have the memory of gods but also are chosen for Jesus heaven and wgen they come looking for Divine Love they alsi bring great earthquakes weather radial changes , storms as they enter what jesus offers , Jesus hell , then purgatory and then heaven for them
I believe this is ready to begin and faith in the True God will become very important for the chosen ones.what if Mitt Romney win? it is the same beacuse no one ends abortion , The Gods rape you and get to abort you from the human being world for you to go back to their hero love
And so tomorrow, I bring the great soul of the queen of Sheba , God willing, to the 1st heaven the cleansing of the priest so she can see what she is protecting then bring her down to purgatory then down to hell and there are the great thrones of hell where she protect the chosen of Jesus from the gods who believe they own them but Jesus has claimed them and then she earn her right to have the key to purgatory then the key to the cleansing of the priest sanctuary in 1st heaven
I will repeat what I read. Benghazi was a setup to have our ambassador purposely kidnapped so that Obama could act as a GREAT STATESMAN and free him by trading the blind sheik for him. That is how it was planned with the Moslem Brotherhood. The ambassador was still alive when the two Seals (CIA) came to rescue him. That’s when the sham attack on the embassy turned into a real fire fight. Still the fight went on for six more hours. The help was available, never used. The reason was at that point Obama wanted them all dead to hide his embarrassment. Treason? Absolutely!
The scumbag-in-chief just ONE DAY after an act of war has been committed against the United States and a bunch of our citizens have been murdered by HIS jihadist pals in Libya.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/308124-1
Does the little dirtbag look like he gives a damn? He and his socialist friends are LAUGHING their asses off and having a big old party, just one freaking day after we’re attacked.
Sorry, I don’t have time to play commander-in-chief and order our military forces into to Libya to beat the living hell out of terrorists. I got to go have a fund-raiser in Las Vegas. That’s more important than getting terrorists.
What a total asshole this guy is, and a what a bunch of degenerates his supporters are.
What a pity you were not calling for the impeachment of George W. Bush after he ignored ample intel and allowed over 3000 Americans to be murdered on US soil. Face it, you are being hypocritical. That’s ok, but just admit it.
Really? Four years later, the best you can come up with is, “it’s all Bush’s fault”? You poor pathetic little loser person. No wonder unemployment is so high if you’re an example of the current work force that’s out there.
Really? There were reports that about this new tactic of flying airliners into buildings?
– will take his party down with him.
This is your opinion!Strangely enough the Dems the party of the poor,the compassion etc etc..Never,never said anything,they remained very quiet.They remained very quiet.How do you explain it?This would have been an excellent idea to get back at Bush for winning the election and knowing the truth?
Benghazi was brought to us by the same gang that brought us fast and furious.What happened to the inquiry?Swept under the carpet?Who is responsible for the murder of not only Mexicans,among them students,but also Americans.What pity that you still remain silent and call for the impeachement of Obama,the dangerous recidivist!
About a year ago our military was used, entirely on the authority of this mutt in the White House (no vote by Congress), to bomb Libya in support of Islamic jihadists who were trying to oust Moammar K-Daffy.
Now, when these same jihadists attack the United States, our great “Commander-in-Chief” (in quotes because it’s obviously a joke) REFUSES to use the military against these Libyan jihadists, his newfound pals.
We will use our military to help foreign, Islamic rebels…we won’t use it to defend our consulates, or to take revenge against terrorists who murder Americans. No military action on the day of the attack…and none in the weeks that have followed.
That’s our policy under Barack Obama, moron-in-chief.
It’s not about nailing Obama, but nailing communism. It’s taken hold in Venezuela and Chavez just won another ‘election’- perhaps explaining Obi’s presence here: get your butt to the front lines of the Shruggle (Michelle’s word).
A lot of conservatives used to be liberal until they either grew-up or saw where the road to community-first leads: Misery on steroids, and that’s where Obama is headed ’cause he’s just another community organizer- Alinsky with a tan. If communitarians like Obi would ever offer some praise for pursuits by individuals to better themselves or their families they might gain some credibility, but they can’t and they won’t. Wisdom is not their strength, the power they worship comes only from an allegiance. To collectivism.
Obama’s frequent use of the term “middle class” has become excessive of late. Notice how it is used against the ‘other’ class, presumably people of wealth and attainment. If he were honest (and he isn’t- see video excuse for Libya) he would use the term “comrade class” because that’s who he is speaking of. It’s Chavez-speak, only in English. Yes, friends, they are here but they have a problem- an 80 million problem because that’s the number of gun owners in America, the land of the free and home of the brave.
Next Tuesday’s election represents round-one of a Mixed Martial Arts competition between individual liberty vs. statism. It’s gonna be big! Of course, the Leftist statists have some advantages: lots of public dole, the MFM, and Chris Matthews. But, they have disadvantages too like “we’re broke”, China, Russia (flexible friend), unemployment, failing schools, and too much government- more than any Real American should have to endure. So, we’ll see if hating freedom wins or loses on the 6th. See ya at the polls.
It’s not at all difficult to believe that Obama “would do such a thing.” This is the guy who voted TWICE to just let abortionists leave babies to die if they’d survived abortions. If he’s cool with just wrapping a gasping baby in a towel and sticking it in a closet to die, alone and unloved, surely he’ll have no qualms about letting adults die on the other side of the ocean.
So very true Christina.
Fast and Furious also got Americans killed here at home. Nothing happened. No one in Washington wants to set a precedent of holding politicians accountable for getting people killed. Might get out of hand.
Here’s another reason why Obama should be impeached if he wins reelection. He ordered an innocent man to be arrested and jailed to further his private political purposes. Doing so was a grotesque corruption of the administration of justice. As chief law enforcement officer for the country, he has a duty to faithfully administer the federal justice system, and to protect it from misuse or corruption. He violated his oath and duty by causing the video producer to be jailed when he knew the video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack. To arrest and jail an innocent person to protect himself surely is “a high crime or misdemeanor”, the basis for impeachment. If Obama is reelected, his second term will be a nightmare for him (his impeachment) and for the country( political paralysis). God forbid!