Mon Dieu! Actual Romney Supporters in France?
We are going to vote Romney because the Republicans ask the right questions and propose good solutions. Mitt Romney well understands that the economy is the principal failure of Barack Obama. In choosing Paul Ryan for vice president, he has committed to the free-market way that permits a return to the America of the 1980s: fewer taxes and more personal responsibility. Mitt Romney seems to have retained Ronald Reagan’s maxim: “The State is not the solution, it is the problem.” America, and more so the free world, needs an American president with a grasp of the issues, not a prompter reader who loses his aptitude when he is deprived of his prompter. Mitt Romney has proven by his experiences that he knew how to manage public funds, whether in Massachusetts or while organizing the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games. To vote Romney-Ryan is to open the way for a western renewal. Beyond their economic growth program, the Romney-Ryan ticket — the “Centrist” and the Catholic free market — incarnates the fundamental values upon which the United States was founded and has prospered.
In the unstable period where guiding lights seem to be missing, the vigor of the Romney-Ryan ticket could equally indicate the voice to follow to a West without a compass. Faced with the Obama charm, masking his vacuity and his incompetence, it is necessary that the Republican candidate prevail in the election. France and Europe need a strong and prosperous America to confront the challenges of a new world, whether they are economic or geopolitical. To hope to see France inspire herself by the clear and healthy ideas extolled by the Romney-Ryan ticket is probably a utopia, while one observes that all political leaders in French politics wish for an Obama victory.
Roger, thanks for posting this. My mom just returned from living in Paris, France to over ten years. She told me of meeting Europeans – more often than her American friends – who were critical of Obama, for just the reasons above.
Like you, I was once a liberal. With experience, my eyes opened to the misguided beliefs of my hippie San Franciscan childhood. It seems some French youth, too, are shunning many leftist ideas that have hurt them: http://youtu.be/Lb8SLNMIBlM
Looks like the world is dividing, not by what leftists would like to divide us by (the haves and have-nots), but by the sane vs the insane. Good to see!
The sane vs the insane: well put indeed.
Or, as I prefer to put it: the realists vs the fantasists/suicidalists.
Hi from Paris, France. The text is more an op-ed than an article endorsed by Libération. Its authors are well-known entrepreneurs or barristers, and Karsenty is especially famous for his supporting Israel.
Have a nice day.
And to you, anonymous Alpha, being a supporter of Israel is bad? Perhaps you would prefer a supporter of Hamas – or the mullahs.
It’s not that simple. In France, voicing your support of Israel means being shunned by your friends and colleagues — who will tell you in private that they actually think Israel should stop pussyfooting and just kill all Arabs, but it ain’t politically correct to say anything against Arabs.
Mr Caton, I suppose that you talk from experience, aren’t you?
or rather from your PJM readings?
Français, né Français, et vivant à Paris. Et vous?
Mr Caton, française pur beurre breton, mais qui ne crache pas dans la soupe France comme certains
Israel is, essentially, a European, modern, economically successful country living in the midst of Middle Eastern, medieval, economically backward countries. Israel’s interests and American interests are so very close to each other. I find it amazing that these truths are not obvious.
We in the West need to understand that this struggle with Islam is real. The struggle, geopolitically, actually is older than Islam. It is a re-play of the Greek wars with Persia of antiquity. Democracy, and its freedoms, versus tyranny.
All cultures are not equal. We must realize this and embrace it. We must believe in our own culture–a Judeo-Christian culture–and we must defend it, or lose it. If we lose it, we will be enslaved.
Extremely well-stated.
Was Alpha being informative, or insinuating? Could be a language thing.
Alpha’s comment doesn’t appear to me to have any disparaging intent against Karsenty et al. I don’t think the “have a nice day” was meant ironically.
Hello, I regret my first comment was misunderstood last night. As any friend of democracy, I am a strong supporter of Israel, but I did not mention it because it was irrelevant, whereas telling why Karsenty was famous here seemed to be insightful for US readers.
Have a better day.
May we all have a better day!
Looks like I need to have a better day, and spell my name correctly. Appreciate your comments, Alpha. All the best to you “over the pond”.
Alpha, thank you for clarifying your ambiguous remark.
It is a pleasure to read this and see the name of the very tenacious and courageous Philippe Karsenty among the signatories.
For those of you who are not aware, Philippe spent close to 10 years fighting the Al Dura blood libel against Israel. He finally won in the French supreme court. The libel involved doctored and fabricated film purporting to show the murder of a Palestinian child repeatedly shown on French television even when they were aware that the film was fabricated.
It takes those who have seen their civilization near collapse to recognize the dangers within. Moreover, in particular, Karsenty is a man who knows precisely the lengths jihadists will go to, in order to submit the west to their will.
On an economic front, they understand the dangers of socialist economics. On the jihadist front, they see the Islamist wreckage in their wake. Most importantly, they understand what havoc the Islamist-in-Chief has caused throughout the Middle East, further emboldening EVERY Islamist element on the march.
They understand what happens when weakness replaces strength;when ‘no go’ zones become the norm, instead of the exception. Thus, they are sounding the alarm bells to fellow westerners over the pond, warning them to watch out for the following signs – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/17/when-is-the-u-s-others-near-bowed-when-israeli-flags-christians-too-are-banned-in-a-city-near-you-addendum-to/
Forewarned IS forearmed!
Le Monde on September 13, 2001: “Nous Sommes Tous Americains!” (We are all Americans) While this Le Monde editorial was an outpouring of emotion towards our tragedy, I boldy believe that with all the issues that divide America and France, France stands with America on fundamental issues. Namely, the liberty of mankind, as well as democratic values.
Don’t write off France yet, she is an American ally, although stubborn and proud. And so are Americans!
darnellecheri, I think John Ringo put it best in his book Manxome Foe, where the characters are sitting around the Oval Office with the President discussing how to fight a coming interstellar war:
I might have added a highlight…..
In June 1940, as Germany was routing the French army, the French prime minister cabled President Franklin Roosevelt the following plea, resembling George Washington’s to the French during the American Revolutionary War: “If you cannot give to France in the coming hours the certainty that the United States will enter the war in a short time…the destiny of the world will change…You will then see France go down like a drowning man and disappear, after having thrown a last look toward the land of liberty where she sought salvation.”
Certainly such an emotional plea, coupled with American gratitude for the French intervention in the American Revolution would spur the United States into action. Right? Well, the US would wait a year and a half to enter the war, after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, and another two years to disembark the first troops in North Africa.
To help prepare te GIs to invade Normandy, the Army Dept. issued each GI a small guide, reminding them of why they were to risk their lives for France:
“The Allied offensive you are taking part in is based upon a hard-boiled fact. It’s this. We democracies aren’t just doing favors in fighting for each other when history gets tough. We’re all in the same boat. Take a look around you as you move into France and you’ll see what the Nazis do to a democracy when they can get it down by itself. In “Mein Kampf,” Hitler stated that his plan was to destroy France first, then get England, after which he would have the United States cornered without a fight. The Allies are going to open up conquered France, re-establish the old allied liberties and destroy the Nazi regime everywhere.”
(Taken from, “The French and Us,” no. 1, 112 Gripes about the French. and “Pocket Guide to France (United States: Army Service Forces, Information and Education Division, 1944), http://www.archive.org.download/PocketGuideToFrance/France2.pdf.)
darnellecheri
wasn’t that booklet: “112 Grips about the french”?
http://www.e-rcps.com/gripes/
Eisenhower received so many complaints that he decided to edit this booklet, because of the GI that clasheed with the French due to ignorance of our habits, and of their antic anti-french prejugés
Rather a bit condescending though , unless that the troops were really low IQ
SDN what a funny nic for a french basher !
you forgot that:
“How many gears does a French tank have?
Six- five forward and one reverse.
Why do the French plant trees along their roads?
So the Germans can march in the shade.
How many surrender monkeys does it take to eat a banana?
They are too scared of someone saying ‘boo’ to eat.
For sale: one French rifle, never used, dropped only once.”
You forgot one: France, whose most elite military unit is the one composed of foreigners.
ah MissAnthropy, these Legionnaires that keep on making you dreaming since Edith Piaf sang their hymn !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcgfHYY2bWQ&playnext=1&list=PL5DA9599A18E65800&feature=results_video
but they are a tiny part of the french deployments abroad, what about the paratroopers from Tarbes, the Chasseurs Alpins, Toul regiments… Poitiers marine infantry tanks regiment…
The french and americans will be orchestrating the war on Al Quaeda in Mali together. French and US advisters, arms, intelligence. Military service is still mandatory in France, but nobody takes it seriously.
You forgot to mention the most recent episode. It was France that started the Libyan war against Gadaffi.France brought in the UK and then America “led from behind”. Well, how is that working out?
really?
do you think that France alone would have been such successful in getting the US, UK, if that wasn’t their will too? and Sarkozy was the dearest choice of the US State Department, wasn’t he?
I sincerely want France to remain France (rather than what all those zones urbaines sensibles have become) — even if the French keep snarking about the uncouth American cowboys. I just wish y’all would get over your infatuation with Obama.
The editorial from “Le Monde” was a piece of hypocrisy from people who hate America since WWII ( former communists , leftists , Left leaning Gaullists , nationalists and extreme right ) The only minority who really knows something about america and therefore respect it are the liberals ( meaning in France moderate centrists not “loonies” ).
Just a hint : if 88% of French like Obama so much why not replacing Hollande ( with 42% approval by Obama ? They pursue more or less the same goals ….)
At least some Europeans are smarter than Obama voters. They know, without strong America will be no France no EU no world peace. You have to live under socialism to appreciate America. Unfortunately it took a Marxist to weak up most Americans from a deep sleep.
Absolument!
Tres bien! Et c’est vrai, M. Romney parle francais bien. Touchez, le President Homme-Enfant!
Romney also speaks fluent French.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyP2M0DTch8
Yes, he mentions in that video that he became fluent during his two years in France, as a (volunteer) missionary. (In the video he welcomes volunteers to the Olympic Games).
Being myself of French background, it’s heartening to see these strands of sanity, even if they are in the minority.
I haven’t read such common sense out of France since reading essays by Jean-François Revel, a man old enough to remember what the Allies did for his country in WW II, among other sterling insights.
(Oh wait, there is one kickass geophysicist, Dr. Vincent Courtillot, total grasp of the fabrications and lies surrounding “man-made global warming”.)
I have a theory that most of “the French” like Obama because Obama represents a reduced and castrated America.
Parfait !
Wonderful article! Fantastic.
I never imagined I would be so enthusiastic about Romney. My admiration and respect for him has grown, from the primary through the convention. A decent man,a kind man, with strength of character. The selection of Ryan was terrific and his performance in the first debate surprised me, he so far exceeded my expectations. He reminds me of Reagan–may his presidency do even half as much for this country as RWR’s did.
Hear, hear! But sadly, we’re going to need Romney’s presidency to do at least half as much as Reagan’s did, because his Idiot Predecessor has messed things up so badly; who could’ve imagined Jimmy Carter would ever look competent in comparison to another president?
I can’t help but remember what Reagan said in 1964 about the United States being the last refuge for the free world. If socialism takes hold here, there’s nowhere for free men to escape to.
Surprising and welcome news from an otherwise depressing election.
(Why is this race even close?)
Mais comme toujours, viva la France.
Please look into Sensata Technologies and save American jobs from going to China at the end of this year.
“An article from the Weekly Standard tell us Obama Has Massive Lead in Global Poll”
I wonder how this poll was conducted, my-be some filled the questions according to their perceiption of the French.
People don’t care who’s gonna be elected in the US, what’s mattering to them, it’s the euro-crisis, and they are gonna loose their job
Do you recall how one English newspaper reacted to W.’s re-election? They published a picture of W on their cover, and the number of votes that Bush got followed with “stupid people in the US.”
They most certainly do have an opinion about whom they want elected. Fortunately, their opinion carries as much weight as the opinions of the rest of the world that can’t vote in American elections. The Dems are working feverishly to find some way the rest of the world, that would NEVER vote for a Republican, can somehow cast valid ballots in American elections. Maybe the UN monitors can help them out with that project.
Corlyss
care to provide the source, anyways it’s a Brit’s one apparently
I don’t care if some French support Romney. I’m going to vote for him anyway.
WHY WOULD ANYONE IN EUROPE WANT ROMNEY TO WIN?
If Romney wins, he’ll strengthen the US military. With a strong US military, the Europeans can then continue their foolish socialist agenda for a while longer.
If Obama wins, sequestration takes place, the American military is gutted and the Europeans will have to spend more of their own money to protect themselves.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/24/is-this-why-obama-wanted-that-des-moines-register-interview-off-the-record/
This is called ‘self interest’.
Basically, your analysis is correct; except that money is not, or should not be, the main concern. The main concern for Europeans should be that an EU army, or even stronger French and German armies, would be a threat to member states planning to leave the EU. They could also be a threat to regions such as Catalonia, if they vote for secession.
If I were you, I would be really annoyed by a french support since most of the Republican/conservative candidates that speak french wanted to hide it, while deridng the democrat candidates that look so french !
Bush reads and speaks French, Gingrich reads and speeks French…
I was very disappointed that Hollande became the French president; more of the Jacques Chirac and Segolene Royale crony BS. However … I am very happy about one thing so far … Hollande seems as determined to reign in the anti-Semitic Sharia Sheisters as Sarkozy and he’s alraedy done some impressive work in that respect. I hope it continues. France is one big crony cesspit; regulated to death
and monopolized by a few confederations of families; where young people have to leave the country to fulfill their dreams and prosper. The French “system” is a crushing weight upon liberty, from the mayors of every little hamlet all the way up to the ministers in government; it’s down right totalitarian in nature and it’s pathetic.
Boff
we are Zimbadwee, din’t you know?
French conservative voices are too often silenced in the public arena.
Some Leftist media even publish lists of “neo-fascists” i.e. all and any who does not sing the radical Left chants.
En France Romney n’est pas populaire mais il reste des gens lucides. Take a look at Dreuz info. http://www.dreuz.info/ Its a conservative french site. Also search for Guy Millière if you want. Of course, our MSM loves Obama, he is almost a god for them. I remember in 2008, some journalists was wearing Obama shirts in TV studio. It was crazy. That’s why I don’t watch french TV anymore. If you are a french conservative you have no choice, there is no Fox News in France. If you want real news you need to go to PJ Media, Breitbart.com and The Blaze. Anywhere else but french TV.
God Bless your country, stay free for us. Yea I pray that the americans do not make the sames mistakes as us.
Gary
your wish !
BTW, what is DREUZ info?
Marie Claude
Dreuz”news” its the first conservative web site in France. They support: Israel, free market and judeo-christian values.
And yeah there is a lot of french who support Romney because they just love America. To be lead by a socialist its never good for a country.
according to the editors board, I doubt so, it’s rather is reflecting a confessional opinion, not really a average french rightwing opinion
Confessional?
What confession?
use your brain
Again, would you specify what confession?
I went to see the web site and noted several ones.
Are you being anti-Semitic again?
Some editors are jewish, some editors are christian but they are conservative, all of them. For example: Netanyahu, Santorum, Reagan, Lincoln, Sean Hannity… are very popular in that site.
Really? I didn’t know Taguieff was conservative. Unless it’s the new label for non-anti-Zionists/Semites.
“I didn’t know Taguieff was conservative. Unless it’s the new label for non-anti-Zionists/Semites.”
Very good point Bern. Personally, I think Taguieff has his place in that website. He tell the truth on islam , on racism against white people, and on christian and jewish persecution in France.
Roger, I apologize for going off topic however I think the following information is important enough to justify my request.
In a recent meeting, attended by a junior United States Senator, off the record comments were made by an Israeli
official in a position to know-
Netanyahu has twice over the past year ordered an attack on Iran. Both times, information was leaked to a news
organization that a significant number of Israeli planes had gone hot. If those planes had taken off information
that Israeli aircraft were headed towards Iran would have made newswires in minutes.
Israeli intelligence concludes the leaks were approved by The White House.
If you need further details to confirm my comments you know how to reach me.
Menahem please stop using airplanes they are easily spotted; send a volley of jericho missiles plus a few harpoons from the submarines and that’s it…zbang ve gamarnou…
“… airplanes … are easily spotted.”
Wrong Philippe -
Planes were used in the recent attack on the Iranian Shehab missile factory in Khartoum. The distance from Israel to Khartoum is greater than to Iran.
This is the essence right here….
“…. Faced with the Obama charm, masking his vacuity and his incompetence, ….”
But, why, oh, why is it that this faux “charm” indeed prevails among thinking Europeans and Australians….for example. It reveals……what….?
Not good for our worldwide fight against our very mutual enemy, these Muslims who keep reminding America and the rest of us that they are, indeed, at war against all that we say we stand for.
Because thinking Australians and Europeans are stupid?
For such a “charming” guy, he’s got the coldest, hardest, most malignant eyes.
After the utter strangeness of seeing Americans still enthusiastic about Obama after nearly four years of unmitigated failure has been the general Euro attitude toward him of semi-worship that borders on a form of delusional insanity. So, it’s good to see that the Europeans—French in this case—are not all Kool-Aid drinkers like, sadly, some Americans still are.
It is not the French just these French (more later). Unfortunately 95% of the French would still vote for Obama if allowed too. Ultimately, tnaht is after Romney surpassed him in the polls, the French press has become somsahta critical of Obama but more in the line “the man who wanted to change the world and failed” (Personal note: Why is that someone who wanted to change the world is assummed a good guy. Changing the world that was the goal of Bin Laden, Hitler and Lenin.)
About these people: the French Free Market Party is basically these four or it is five peole. Also look at what they say. They are completely unable to look away of their petyy ideology. What should be the concern for a French citizen aboiu Obama’s reelection? It should not be your regulations or your national economy. Sure a poor America means less exports for French companies and a a poor America means less funding for security and that indirectly makes France less secure. However America’s debt is still basically Americans’s business and France’s citizens should not pick a candidate for his impact on American, economy or debt.
What should concern the French is Obama’s foreign policy and this has been a disaster both for America and France: half of North Africa has fallen into the hands of people who are in speaking terms with Al Quaida. In Egypt it was/it is not sure at all the Islamists realy won the elections since there were many testimonies of Copts and secular Egyptians being threatened in not going to vote but as soon as the first results were announced (whole counting would take over a week) the Obama administration virtually ordered the miliatray to handle power so it was the Islamists who did most of the counting… So the most powerful Arab country has been handled to the Muslim Briotherhood. Great. Mali seems close to falling and this time it is falling to Al Quaeda. He has given hopes to the Taliban and refused to give weapons to the anti-taliban non Pashtun minorities of QAfhanistan. Several important weapon programs for the US Armed Forces have been cancelled or castrated. Iran is closer than ever to the bomb. A bomb who would be used against Israel but who could end being used against France either directly or indirectly through terrorist proxies. That is what these four clowns should be concerned about. Not America’s debt or regulations.
Excellent point.
JFM
“About these people: the French Free Market Party is basically these four or it is five peole.”
do you think that these four or five people would suffice to set France as 5th in GDP world rank?
there’s not such a passion for the american presidential elections today, because whatever candidate will get into the office, there’s still the big financial and debt mess to solve.
Obama was probably the deared candidate after the reign of Bush, for good reasons, we were then the “evils”, as much as the islamists in the era’s clique.
Today, Obama doesn’t make illusion anymore, Romney? he’ll have the same problems. I don’t know any French that pronounce a choice for one or the other of these both candidates
I thought it was clear I wasn’t referring to, France’s economy but about the political weight of thse the people writing the article: zero. The authors of many comments to the article seemed warm and fussy about the French seeing the light over Obama. Unfortunately not.
Though you’re right that AQMI is becoming a urgent problem to solve
I believe that already American and French agents are on the ground, for evaluating the risks of a intervention, which wouldn’t be perceived as a neo-colonial adventure, especially from Algeria whi is very touchy if we would launch such a expedition at her border, as the AQMI fighters were former Algerian terrorists. So, that is why Hollande is trying to amend franco-algerian relations, in order to get Algeria’s help.