Why Is the L.A. Times Burying the Obama/Khalidi Tape?
Interestingly, that sole Obama remark, as reported by Wallsten, contains an ellipsis in the middle. After the then-state senator says the Khalidis had given him “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases” comes a strategically placed dot-dot-dot. We don’t know what those blind spots and and biases were and what he might have thought of them. Or how he might have changed. That, in Wallsten’s or some Times editors’ judgement, was best left on the tape.
So what are we to think? We have an administration that not only ascribes most of the Middle East blame to Israel, but also has banned “Islamism” and all related words, even “Islam” and “jihad” from our national security documents. They’re completely gone. Indeed, even the Fort Hood massacre, so clearly inspired by Islamic extremism, has now been shifted into the comfortable category of the lone, angry killer. Rashid Khalidi should be happy. And, in fact, he is.
Sometimes I want to yell and scream. What is wrong with the Los Angeles Times? Are they a news organization or the propaganda wing of some leftover unit of the IWW? No wonder subscribers are deserting them in droves.
But I won’t yell and scream. I want to be polite. I have old friends at the Times. And what I seek is the release of the tape. Even if there is a legitimate promise to the source, the public interest now overwhelms this. Few stopped to criticize when the Pentagon Papers were published by the New York Times. And they were stolen from the Department of Defense. Let’s get this done. If the tape exonerates Obama, they should be anxious to publish it. If it doesn’t, the Times has done a public service. That’s their job.
But failing that, I turn to you, dear reader. What is to be done? We can’t send a FOIA request to the Los Angeles Times. They’re a private company — or owned by one. There must be other means.
One way is to go to the original reporter Mr. Wallsten. He now works for the Wall Street Journal. I have put in a call to him. We shall see how, or if, he replies. Another way is to find and contact the person who gave Wellsten the tape. Deborah Schlussel believes that person is Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada and Arab American Action Network, an organization founded by the Khalidis. I don’t know if that is true, although I can speculate on the motives.
Whatever the case, the time to reveal the tape is now. Please make your suggestions for what to do. It will be an interesting experiment in citizen journalism to try to do it together. And, unlike the current administration, to do it transparently.
Is there a petition we can sign? An LA Times address of a certain person we can write to? A facebook page to join? You’re right, Roger…this tape should be released.
Could a certain someone be persuaded to ‘leak’ it via youtube?
Hmmmm.
If these people are supporters of Obama and friends…why would they give anything? Especially ANYTHING!! that would possibly make a democrat look bad…
Also, there would be “great” pressure not to release such information,or to just destroy it and say sorry, it’s gone.
However, that being said…I agree with Delia, what can we do??
I’m surprised FOX hasn’t gotten hold of this…
If destroying your data is good enough for the AGW crowd, it should be good enough for the LA Times as well.
gracie, 0bama is such a flawed human (ain’t we all though) and I think he was simply used as a tool for a darker, more ‘collective’ shadow group of people behind him. He was used as the ‘negro’ of lowered expectations. Nobody dared asked of the ‘exotic negro’s’ background? Why? Oh. Because he’s ‘black’. Oops. ‘White too’. Nevermind. ‘BLACK’.
It’s easy to hate on this overly-ego-bloated doofus but I truly believe Barry was chosen because of his sickening, pathetic, sad, lowly, shady background and the commie whackjobs who preyed on young Barack created the mindset of absolute loony-tunes malleable nut-jobbery that we have as the POS POTUS today.
Barry’s girl’s are ‘Russian’ names. ‘Red much’?
Barry is the prop guy though. The scum behind Barry don’t mind watching Barry make a complete and embarrassing ass out of himself. Critical of my bow? I’ll bow MORE! “Okay, Barry! Bow more! To ALL THE WRONG PEOPLE!”
OMG. We are in big effin’ trubz.
Delia, surely by now you know that the Liberal Times will not print or report anything negative about Obama. This is just another example of another nail being witheld from bama’s coffin. But, listening to his speaches that indicate a favorable position in anything pertaining to the Muslims. And his visits to Arab countries and his reluctance to visiting Isrial, is another indication of his position in regards to them. I sincerly hope that some day the truth will be shared on this Cretin who occupys our’s, not his White House.
Good luck with your quest Mr. Simon it deserves an airing.I think a bigger question is how did Obama get into Harvard law school with mediocre grades from Columbia(he did not graduate with honors)? Either it was affirmative action on steroids or Mr. Obama had a Guardian Angel.
Obama attended Columbia? Oh, Pedro, you can be so evil!
Yes, he did: Black Muslim lawyer Khalid al-Mansoor, acting as agent for Saudi Prince Alaweed bin-Talal.
When Obama was seeking a position as an adjunct lecturer (he was never a professor), he was initially turned down. Then, according to the dean in charge, he received a call, that “encouraged” him to change his mind. Perhaps it was the same angel?
Affirmative action is an insidious disease. We see minority kids with mediocre grades, at best, getting into Ivy Schools. I wonder the logic of putting marginally qualified minorities into these very competitive settings. I do not see how this helps race relations. The kids all know what is going on and there is no way after this experience when I see a minority from a top school you that I cannot think “affirmative action.” And now we see a mandate to have more native americans get accepted to Med school. Not a long term program to improve the education and qualifications but just force quota rates. Big disservice to the really qualified minorities. What does it say – they cannot compete (which I do not believe) or they do not compete.
Vann Jones has been quoted as saying he was glad that he was going to Yale Law School because they had no grades. The high dropout rate of unprepared minority kids in elite Ivy League schools was taken care of. No grades, no sweat.
You know the rot stinks from the head up when a ‘news’ organization refuses to print an EXPLOSIVE news story. How IS it possible that a major daily would NOT deem it newsworty to finally ! release a tape which would shed light on an issue of such major import, an issue which realigns the US relationship with its so called ‘best friend’ in the Middle East, an event of potentially earth shaking proportions?
It is painfully, dangerously obvious that this shielded/hidden tape proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only did Obama lie to the Jewish community in his (feigned) support of Israel, but it would prove that he is an Arabist at heart, a supporter of PA ‘resistance’, AKA terror.
Most importantly, the fact that the LA Times deems it ‘appropriate’ journalistic ethics to hide from the public that which they have EVERY right to know, demonstrates that the fourth estate has indeed become a fifth column for those who wish America harm.
It is an indisputable fact that the PA Arabs which Khalidi-and by extension Obama-seek to shield are indeed America haters. After all, how does ANYONE in their right (or left) mind justify supporting PA Arabs who jumped for joy, handed out sweets, and otherwise achieved orgasmic heights when 3,000 Americans were murdered on 9/11/01, ‘coincidentally’ by their fellow Islamists?
How indeed!
Jews can be liberals or jewish, but not both although many think otherwise. Conservative Christians believe Israel and America are chosen nations. We believe Obama and liberals are purposely destroying both. We weep, but we plan to take back the country in November. Please tell your friends and family to use their brains to see what’s REALLY happening and not their hearts which make them FEEL good about current events.
If people cannot get to the polls, there is always absentee voting..
no excuses not to vote.
Pease go in person and sure your vote is COUNTED!
I apologize. My mind was working ahead of my fingers and I pushed submit before proofing.
Please go in person to make sure your vote COUNTS!
I like everything you said “WithYou” — but I don’t completely understand your very first sentence. However since you are clearly an ally, I’d love it if you were to explain it a bit more. Thanks in advance.
He is basically saying although you can be culturally Jewish or even be born of a Jewish mother if you are a liberal you are not confessionaly Jewish. Just as an atheist cannot be Jewish confessionaly.
You don’t know anything about Judaism. There has never been a case where a Jew had to pass a political litmus test to be considered Jewish. A few Jews have been excommunicated for various reasons, but no one ever claimed they were not Jewish anymore, just that they had been placed outside the Jewish community (to the extent that any other Jewish community recognizes that excommunication). That’s it. End of discussion. You don’t have to like it, but that is what it is. If you say it isn’t, you are lying, just as a leftist hater of Israel lies about Israel. It’s the same kind of willful lie. Stop it.
Is a Jew communist a Jew? By halachic law, yes. By theolgic definition (one’s confession), no. Can you honestly say that a leftist truly believes in the tenants of Judaism in a meaningful way? If you ascribe to the halachic definition of what is a Jew then you have a point. However if one defines being a Jew as one who is by both by halachic law and and by adherence to the tenants of the faith as a Jew then its questionable if it is possible to be both a leftist and a Jew.
Just so that I now understand your explanation Cuban Bob, when you use the word “confession” or “confessional”, are you saying “self-identifying”? Would that be a rough synonym in this context?
Obama is an islamic mole. He is an eternal danger to the civilized and free world, not only to the US.
Find the top 5-10 advertisers in the LAT and lean on them. Buy no products, no services, no investments etc. from their advertisers and inform those advertisers that the LAT has very important information on that tape that America should see and hear about the views of our President towards a key ally. Not any ally, but the most stable democratic state in the Middle East.
At first blush that does appear to be a good idea, or strategy. But I think the weakness in it is that we don’t have the raw numbers on our side. We have to use our “traditional disproportionate clout” as members of various white-collar establishments to bring this about. In other words, Rodger calling “old friends” at the LAT is a potentially fruitful strategy (as he implies he is doing and or thinking about).
I would extend this suggestion to *anyone* with contacts at the LAT to get a copy of at *least* a transcript smuggled out of there. For example my sister used to work there — unfortunately not long enough and didn’t rise high enough to know enough people there now to appeal to.
But if one considers ALL the people who read Pajamas Media, there *must* be people with direct or at least 1-degree-of-freedom connections at the LAT. It is through *them* that I would appeal to get either a transcript, notes of the transcript, the tape itself, or *anything* having to do with the tape smuggled out of there. I would personally contribute money to a fund that would in effect bribe someone to do this who works at the LAT — although I suspect that starts to border on criminality.
Just my thoughts.
Well worded and effective advice, 4. tc , and applicable to all media agenda trends. Their bottom lines all have top priority protection oversight by some individual or board totally focused on present and future profit. Consumers have the master key, if only they recognize and use it until stronger measures may be deemed timely.
I would like to see the tape released.
That said, lack of access to the tape is no excuse for having supported Mr. Obama. What he was — and is — was clear enough to those who were actually paying attention. As for the rest, well, caveat emptor next time, dudes!
I very well remember this incident. It is why that I have to remind myself not to be rude toward people like Marty Peretz and Alan Dershowitz. Common sense dictated that the LA Times was protecting Obama. I will invest some effort to get this news organization to change its mind—but I doubt it will do much good. These MSM outlets are too far gone. They seemingly are on a sure fire path to self immolation. The lefty editors and journalists are also significantly more afraid of the Obama administration than they are of their consumers. In the long run, they hope to find jobs within the government and left-wing non-profits. What does the private sector offer them?
Only a few years ago, the typical full-time journalist working for the LA Times had it made. There was something of a tacit agreement between them and the newspaper that virtually guaranteed them a tenured position. They had fantastic benefits—and a large expense account that wasn’t thoroughly audited. That’s ancient history. These folks are now legitimately frightened. Their future appears very bleak.
Funny, you’d think that they could very easily turn that situation around by going back to unbiased unafraid investigative journalism.
You tapethers are undermining legitimate, moderate opposition to president Obama.
The Hawaiian Department of Health has examined the videotape and issued a statement, through the Daily Kos, that there is nothing to this video. Reputable left wing websites have held the original video in their bare hands and have vouchsafed its validity and have fact checked every utterance and image thereon for its completely innocent authenticity.
Terry, are we talking about the same thing? Rodger is referring to a tape of a good-bye party held (I believe) in Chicago. What would the Hawaiian Department of Health have anything to do with that? Perhaps you are confusing the object of Roger’s article with the famous “Birth Certificate?”
If that is so, I didn’t even know there *was* a “tape” associated with that particular controversy. In any case, I’m thoroughly unclear as to how your comments (and I generally like what you have to say in other comments) have to do with this tape of a party in Chicago.
I’ve just gotten my senses of irony, sarcasm and humor back from the cleaners, and I can’t do a darn thing with ‘em!
Oops! I realize only now that you were in fact being sarcastic. My mistake.
Tapether. Nice. Some term like that was the first thing that came to mind.
Nothing here to see folks, move along.
Speaking absolutely hypothetically, if some random country in the Middle East were to ever fear for its existence, an independent organization, (let’s call it “Mozzad”) might have the inclination and resources to spirit this tape to the public domain.
CraigZ, your ‘hypothesis’ surely can be accomplished through the stupendously accomplished Mossad. In fact, IF for a nanosecond its leadership, via Dagan, thought that securing said tape would turn the tide, then such a ‘mission’ would be like taking candy from a baby.
Compared to the Dubai hit-yes, they did it-it would be like a vacation for the heroes of Israel.
You think they’re superman (and woman). They’re not.
They pulled off Dubai, but many if not most faces of the participants are now known to the world. So were their methods.
That does not seem particularly clever. Unless they didn’t care, or wanted it that way. Perhaps the faces we saw were just a diversion and not the real hit squad. I suspect that because the hotel room door was found locked from the inside.
Pulling that off was a lot easier than it would be getting into the office safe of a big American newspaper.
I have a feeling the tape MIGHT turn out to be less explosive and revealing than we suspect.
The current owner of the LA Times is Sam Zell. Why hasn’t he taken an interest in the tape?
They will not release the Kenyan birth documents, why would they get some tape that no msm would play…The American people made it clear in the last election that facts do not interest them…Obama would claim he was being politically correct for the moment and that those are not his views and bla bla bla…I do not need that tape to know Obama`s views…
I watched a YouTube video of a speech Khalidi delivered in Oregon, and found it interesting indeed. He is an an excellent speaker, actor, and posturer (e.g., his ability to summon up outrage). As far as I could tell — some things were a bit opaque — his position is that Israel was a creation of the West that was imposed on the Palestinians, and therefore it should disappear. This does not mean that he wants to slaughter the Jews — he regards their fate as our problem (i.e., the West) and not his. He leaves it uncertain whether Jews should simply live under Palestinian rule or be removed to some other clime.
This position is not limited to Palestinians. It seems to be the view of much of the Left, and indeed it was the opinion of my father, who was a 1950s CIA guy and about as far from the Left as one can get. He regarded the creation of Israel as a mistake and assumed that at some point this would have to be corrected. He was not anti-Semitic: this was just his realpolitik assessment.
If you start from the hypothesis that Obama shares this view, then his actions make a lot of sense. On the LAT tape, he may have acknowledged this more openly than he and those in that camp, which probably includes the LAT staff, would regard as politically wise.
The only problem with this view is that Israel is not purely a creation of the west. Jews have lived in that area for thousands of years. Since the early 1800′s, there has been a consistent movement of Jews to immigrate back to their ancient homeland. If you listen to the Arabists, you get the idea that there were no Jews in Israel, until the creation of the state of Israel.
You are absolutely correct Mark. Jews have *continuously* lived in Canaan, then Israel (then Palestine, then Israel again) for at *least* 2,500 – 3,000 years. Yes, even during and after the Romans scattered them to the four corners of the earth, *some* Jews still managed to keep their heads down and *stay* in “newly-Palestine” (100 or 200 years after Jesus) — especially Hebron and most importantly, JERUSALEM.
This *fact* must be hammered home again and again and again to people who otherwise think (and I mean non anti-Semites who are simply ignorant of this) that Jews only arrived on the scene either after WWII or just before it.
@Mark a little bit of a correction here: the Romans did not scatter the Jews. The diaspora happened under the Assyrians scattered the people from the kingdom of Israel that had divided from Judah. They then brought in other races to mix with those who remained behind. The Babylonians who were the next conquerors then scattered those who had remained in Jerusalem by taking some into captivity. A remnant remained. The captives or at least most of them, returned with the edict from king Cyrus of Persia, who allowed them to return home to rebuild the Temple. The next conquerors were the Greeks under Alexander the Great. This brought about the desecration of the Temple, as well as persecution of the Jews, especially those who circumcised their infant sons, followed by demands to eat the food of idols or die. The story is told in the books of the Maccabees, – the story of the mother and her 7 sons is gory but it gives some detail of the persecution that took place. The Romans were invited into Jerusalem. They stayed until the sacking of Jerusalem and the third destruction of the Temple.
A remnant of Jews remained in Jerusalem and in the general region.
“Palestine” was also a creation of the West. The concept of the nation state was no more in the sensibilities of the nomadic Bedouin who inhabited that area than it was to those nomadic Arabs now called the “Saudis,” Jordanians or many others. the concept of the modern nation state was invented by Europeans and imposed on the Middle East. In some cases, like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc., it enabled a small group of primitive nomads to receive the greatest transfer of unearned wealth and power in the history of the world. In some cases (the so-called “Palestinians”) it doesn’t seem to have succeeded to the satisfaction of their gangster leaders. The “Palestinians” who live in Israel have the same rights as the Jews or Christians who live there (and more than they have in most or all other Arab countries, who purport to care so very much about their supposed plight.) The issue is, they hate the Jews and are perfectly happy to piggy back on the Western invention of the nation state if it suits thier purposes of chasing the Jews from Israel (or worse,) while blaming “the West” for establishing the nation state of Israel.
Yes, some Arabs had their land taken from them. That has never happened anywhere else in the history of the world, has it? The only reasons this is still an issue are (1) Arabs hate Jews, (2) some Arabs received enough money and power from the superior civilizations of the West to bankroll the festering of an issue they don’t really care about (the “Palestinians) to achieve a goal they do care about (expelling the Jews from the region,) and (3) Western liberals who loath the West, consequently loath its creation and ally, Israel, so they must see it destroyed and any group claiming victimization of the West raised up.
Good summation.
Bary’s Palestinian friends (there’s more than one) are part of the exact same movement that was founded by a Nazi – an actual honest to gosh arabic Nazi. Why so surprised when you hear a grunt from a pig?
They belong to the Muslim Brotherhood.
State controlled media reacts to the threat of pitchforks. I can’t imagine there not being a threat of consequences from the hostile party involved. When Obama was a new name for being a candidate, there were a lot of things on the web that have now been scrubbed. I read Michelles undergrad thesis. I read about Obama’s white girlfriend and even this may have been online.
Who is Larry Sinclair?
Larry, that is the guy that should have had a video…
If the LAT were genuinely concerned about revealing their source–which has some plausibility; camera angles, point of view, and such could reveal who took the video–a solution would be to have some impartial person review the tape to see that a released transcript was accurate. This doesn’t strike me as not only easy but obvious, and I think vitiates the paper’s claim of source protection.
We can take it as read that if a similar video existed involving a Republican or conservative figure the paper would have released it in the glare of as much publicity as it could manage.
By way of an aside, JV and seven, the Palestinians and their allies often repeat this idea that Israel is a result of western guilt, not their fault, and the west should deal with it in a way that doesn’t oppress Arabs. Leaving aside the Arab world’s activities during the Second World War, a substantial part of Israel’s population is made up of people who came from Arab countries, forced out or fleeing after 1948. It’s not just the west that made Israel.
And of course, if the Arabs had accepted partition the total number of Arabs who would have been displaced would have been none.
Alex, not to belabor the obvious, but modern Israel is not the ‘creation’ of anyone. Israel has been the homeland of Jews for over 3,000 years. Nothing new here under the sun about that little tidbit.
JVDelong should factor in the above in his father’s ‘realpolitik’ assessment. Besides, Jordan and Saudi Arabia(among others) were truly CREATED as a sop to Arab dictator families, and NO ONE talks about that little factoid.
The fact that after the Holocaust formal recognition was given for Israel’s re-creation, well, that only seems fair. The west helped exterminate half of world Jewry, and the (east) Arabs expelled close to a million from their long held homes.
Seems to me that any fair minded, rational person would have NO argument with giving back to the Jews that which has ALWAYS belonged to them!
Thank you. Keep it coming. Factual history needs constant reminders.
Despite the Diaspora, Jews never left, they just weren’t always the rulers of what has been a fractious open market and meeting place of races since Phoenicia. The tiny portion the UN (is that the “West”? How quaint a conceit) drew out for the Jews is dwarfed by the monarchies scribed unilateraly by France and England for the nomadic warlords.
Pelaut: Absolutely positively correct and very well put!
Further, as I mentioned above these facts, or “factual history” as you put it, *must* be repeated again and again despite the tiring nature of such an exercise. The main reason is for the sake of those people of good conscience who simply are not, or were not aware of this highly important piece of information.
Many Israel-loving Christians are not aware of every aspect of Jewish – and especially Israeli history (nor would I expect them to be). This is why educating Israphiles *and* people who are simply *not* anti-Semitic with this all important historical fact is one of the single best activities we can engage in to help stop the current catastrophe going on between our Arabist president and effectively, the entire country of Israel (polls in Israel show a surprising degree of agreement when it comes specifically to the question of keeping Jerusalem — something Obama clearly does not want to happen).
Off topic a little:
A friend of mine remembers seeing Ear Leader on TV years ago, possibly before he was a senator, discussing how white Americans should pay reparations.
She’s looked & looked & looked for the video, but it’s gone.
That tape is all over the net
where would we find it?
Israel also has people descended from settlers who bought land from Ottomans in the late 19th century. The Arabs who lived there did not own it; Ottoman overlords elsewhere did.
I learned this, from all people, Edward Said!
One of the blogs (Ace? Directorblue? MyPetJawa?) had a partial guest list for that party. Schlussel has info about the band that played. Perhaps a little, ahem, persuasion of these party-goers is in order.
Now there’s a worthwhile idea!
Or, simply appeal to any of them who may have developed a grudge of some sort since that party (i.e. thought they were going to get a position of some sort in an Obama Administration, but got passed over). I wouldn’t even consider an appeal to their “conscience” – the Red Sea would part first.
Indeed, Debbie Shlussel did do an exclusive post, it was the third most talked about on Yahoo! at that time!
It was the website Change and Experience that pieced the event together, when the MSM wouldn’t.
Kudos to Debbie, as always, she does know a thing or two about Palestinians, and assorted other jihadists in the US.
Several bloggers railed about it at that time. LA Times did agree to publish the tape after elections.
Glad to see Roger L. Simon on the case now!
6 David Thomson wrote:”In the long run, they hope to find jobs within the government and left-wing non-profits. What does the private sector offer them?”
Astute observation. The problem is, a whole lot of people now in vulnerable employment are counting on those jobs, but there won’t be enough to go around, especially as the economy continues to contract. What’s going to happen when so many people wake up to a very painful reality?
The future is going to be more interesting than any one can imagine.
A majority of the legacy media journalists are not merely biased—they are also intellectually shallow. I seriously wonder if these people even worked an average of twenty hours a week. One mostly needed to go along with flow. The stuff is now hitting the proverbial fan. Their jobs are rapidly disappearing. They will also be lucky to find future employment paying them half of their present earnings.
You bet it will! The future is NOW — multiplied each day that passes.
We’re on the down escalator and it’s escalating.
The Huns are in the palace today, but Mad Max is right behind them.
While Howdy Doody McConnel and mumble wit Hatch and Bozo McCain dither and simper.
And the dream of an organic politic dies under the hooves of the “idea men”. McCain dither and simper.
There will always be positions available for them in the Ministry of Truth, once the bailout of the MSM is done.
you know what the tape shows.
we all know what the tape shows.
please call a spade a spade and a liar a liar.
Obama is dishonest and most probably suffering mental illness.
he is a Muslim until he renounces Islam. why ..because he was born to a Muslim father. So until he renounces he is a Muslim. he is no friend to you, me, Israel or America.
good day.
Based on contemporary newspaper reports I do believe O was born in HI, but I wonder if in HI at that time the religion or father is named on the BC. Does any one know?
Look, I don’t like Obama either, but he is NOT a Muslim.
to say I dislike Obama is an understatement. but one can become a muslim by conversion or by birth. transferable father to son. It is the same for Jewish people ..they are born to teir religion.
that doen’t mean they believe or practice the religion. Obama did attend mosques as a youth with his step father.
Obama’s father was a muslim. so until he renounces the religion to muslims he is a muslim. so why is he not a muslim to you ?
why is everyone afraid of muslims ??
oh yeah ..they are afraid of them because they will kill you.
I didn’t say all of them (..some are muslims in name only. besides it only takes one you kill you).
He does not need to be formally a muslim in order to have internalized muslim standards and practices while a young boy in Indonesia. In most of these societies, boys get away with anything, and therefore are equally free not to learn anything of value besides the art of deception. What we call a spoiled brat in our familiar frame of reference might be seen as a respectable lad in tyrannical cultures because he successfully emulates the behavior of the rulers, those who get all the respect, deservedly or not, depending on your culturally acquired values.
At the same time, girls are denied everything, starting with dignity. This explains the comfort this misguided missile found in the company of manipulators and amoral characters of all kinds, and how he draws the “winning lessons” from their amoral antics. The reflexive bow to whatever ruler he comes in contact with is symptomatic. In islamic societies the most urgent wisdom is to show your respect to the strongman, and you don’t even think for one minute about the ethical dimensions of this submissive gesture, because survival under these conditions can be a more compelling priority. I am not trying to make excuses for anyone, only proposing a theory that might illuminate some of the dangerous behaviors of a President who is not quite an American, culturally speaking.
This is generally underestimated because it is still mindlessly polite to say stupid things like “the religion of peace” and associated BS when talking about Islam. Do what Thomas Jefferson did: Get an English translation of the Koran, and read it! It’s all there, you don’t have to make it up. It’s in the open, like “Mein Kampf” was. By the way, Jefferson created an expeditionary corps we call today the US Marines, after reading the Koran. With meager financial resources, and character to make up for it, this small force (In a practical sense the special forces of their day) vanquished the Islamic pirates of the North African coast, who learned the hard way to respect commercial vessels flying the American colors.
After you educate yourself on this, you may come to appreciate the tragedy of the little boy who was deceived and abandoned so many times, and how he does not know better than taking it on us. Caveat Emptor!
no argument from me on that professor.
I know more then enough of the koran and it’s biases. it is one sick way of life. very brutal and limiting.
it really shouldn’t be call religion ..more like a cult.
I should add that many muslims are frightfully unaware of some of the tenets of islam
Whether or not he’s a Muslim now, either by belief or Muslim law, is irrelevant. He has internalized so many of the values and beliefs, I suspect.
What Obama is, in my view, is mentally disordered.
He’s got all kinds of problems, I think. All probably related to his narcissism. I know enough about it to recognize, something that has been very well described by the board-certified psychiatrist, Dr. Charles Krauthammer. I don’t know the etiology, but I suspect it’s how the very young child overcompensates for distance and lack of closeness with the significant adult respnosible for caring and providing love and closeness to the child. In this case, it was most likely a distracted and distanced mother, who was not emotionally mature and prepared to raise the child. And of course, there was no father in the picture. The grandiosity and inflation of one’s self-worth probably developed early as compensation for how certain needs were not met.
In sum, this guy’s a mess.
It takes one to know one. What will you confess?
Interesting how newspapers often justify their reportage under the notion of the “public’s right to know”–unless, of course, the information is in the control of a reporter or his newspaper. In that case, the public’s “right to know” is attenuated by the reporter/newspaper’s discretion.
It’s just like public officials that “can’t find” documents requested through FOIA. Or the climate scientists who discarded their original data, but are happy to publish their “enhanced” or “moderated” or “processed” data.
Pedro raises another significant question regarding our Manchurian C.O. (Commnunity Organizer). Just how did he get into Columbia? And, then how did he get into and afford Harvard? Bush and Kerry’s academic record were everywhere during their campaign but now the left-wing media just don’t care? Like the tape issue, if he is such a genius than his grades should reflect it and explain how he got into Harvard. His path to the presidency looks more and more not just like affirmative action on steroids, but like Lenin being put on the train to Russia by the Germans to bring about the revolution. I generally don’t believe in most conspircay theories but I think the hard left poliburo (Soros, Ayres, etc.) as initiated by Frank Marshall Davis shaped and developed their puppet, our dear comrade, B.O., C.O.
Let’s push for the tape and push for his academic record. Let his genius shine through for all to see, or let’s us see what I hope people are starting to grasp: the emperor not only has no clothes, his whole character is one big gigantic lie.
Saudi got him into Harvard. See Percy Sutton tapes. M. Payne and Stanley Anne Dunham micromanagement bank loans to impoverished people who could not pay back and land is grabbed…sound familiar? Geithner’s father friend and co-worker of M. Payne, grandmother. Ayers possible degree-separated friend of mentor in Hawaii, Frank Marshall Davis.
On the background of “God damn’ America”, the LA Times/ Khalidi tape situation made me believe that the “whitey” tape story is true – and since then, I stopped buyg LA Times, and also I started to advise everyone around to stop buying LA Times, too –
Oh, by the way – and this protective stonewalling also moved me from someone who used to think of Barry’s carreer as just a regrettable accident, to someone who thinks that Bary is not a legitimate US president, and that we’re only at the beginning of a long series of costly political miseries which have been largely created by the “When the Truman Show Meets The Manchurian Candidate” conspiratorial cocoon created by MSM around him -
Congratulations to Arizona!
Right on, Roger. I don’t have any ideas to contribute but I’m confident you’ll think of something.
Adna Kutnicki:
“…the fourth estate has (indeed) become a fifth column…”
Good line. Oughtta be on billboards across the country.
The only time the LA Times “keeps it’s promises”, is when doing so would help a Democrat.
Given the rate at which the LA Times is losing readers, perhaps if we promised to sign up 1000 new subscribers in exchange for the full, unedited tape.
I thought of this tape recently. During the campaign its existence was made known and so many people were desperate to have it aired believing it would derail his campaign. The fact that it HAS not been released is despicable and (not that we need it) further proof that we no longer have a press originally conceived as a check on a malicious government. His records, his shady origins, his sinister associations, withheld evidence, what else? Its release should be compelled. It is the public’s right to know particularly since Barack Osama is a PUBLIC figure and he is actively attempting to dismantle the security of one of our allies in the Middle East. I don’t think for a moment that when the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution they for a moment believed that just because someone was elected they had the right to do whatever they wished to the country and its people. Each day provides further evidence that, at the very least, this person in the White House has some serious personal issues which are being worked out through his politics and policies. This is a polite way of saying that our 44th President is mentally unstable and we are not required to hang on for the precarious ride. He is unfit for office and yes, impeachment should be an option. We are not required to commit national suicide upon demand.
How to get the tape released? Buy the LA Times! I do not think that they will release the tape otherwise. Now, how much would it take to buy the LA Times? Maybe $5 in two years time?
Thousands of people who shilled for Oabama and clung to him as a last hope to save their professional positions and livelihood are going to find themselves abandoned. It’s already happening. Teachers are losing jobs as well as state and municipal employees with union contracts. Now universities are gearing up for massive lay-offs. As David Thomson noted, the jobs they may ultimately get (if any) won’t be anywhere near as remunerative as the ones they will lose. The degree of social discontent this will engender may be staggering. Unemployment is a powder keg that can have consequences beyond anyone’s control.
Yeah. I can just imagine some of Obama’s criticism self criticism sessions over those provincial Zionist Jews, still into their gold, god, and guns, practicing exclusionary ethnic apartheid against those Arab “freedom fighters.” The Arabs are not doing jihad, it’s just community organizing by other means by a violent few; Israel is just the wrong state at the wrong place at the wrong time. Violence is never the answer. Can’t we all just get along? Maybe you should give the LA times an offer they can’t refuse, it works in Chicago where the dead still vote, and just about every where else in the real world.
Dear LA Times,
I am hearing the most vile rumours from some pretty dangerous groups on the far right. Why to hear them tell it Obama was behind the Lindbergh kidnapping! It is time to silence those racist nut jobs with a bit of the truth. Release the tapes!
Sincerely,
Concerned Citizen
If there are any SEALS, Rangers, Green Beret’s or Marine Recon reading this, maybe a small group could “liberate” the tape. Just like the AGW fraud was revealed by the “liberation” of the East Anglia data, so does this need to be outed.
I’m sure they’ve burned it by now.
I wonder though if there’s some basis for a lawsuit and a subpoena…Patterico might know.
“Why Is the L.A. Times Burying the Obama/Khalidi Tape?”
If ever there was a rhetorical question…
Burying this tape is why I finally cancelled my subscription to the Dog Trainer. As PJ said, I’m sure it’s been burned by now, but thanks for your reminder about this. It had to contain statements or information so inflammatory that The One’s campaign would have crashed if it had been made public.
Ken,
It is plausible that the tape has been destroyed, but I actually think this group is so arrogant they will protect the tape out of sheer vanity. It will come out at some point when the reality of Obama’s islamist sympathy serves his purposes.
The LA times will not release it because it would obviously hurt Barry’s image; In addition though, I think they are slimy enough, and have learned from living with the rats that you always keep some sort of leverage over ANYONE if you can. This why I believe they most definitely still have this tape.
Even if the tape *has* been burned, I’d still be willing to bet that there is at least one, and possibly multiple transcripts (in part or in full). The reporter himself *must* have made more comprehensive notes.
As Roger (and sorry for repeatedly misspelling your name in earlier comments!) himself implied with his focus on the ellipses, there could have been some significant editorial cutting of the original article — or even self-censorship by the reporter. Either way, it’s trivially true that he *had* (at one time at least) to have notes on what was said in place of the ellipses.
Don’t count on it being destroyed. Mosques built as victory markers are not their only popular epitaph expressions. Seems they treasure crowing whether complete lies or just half truths. Have you seen any lately from the great cesspool on the hill?
Scythe@19,
This situation is much easier to understand if you drop the mental infirmity theme. Forgettaboutit. That’s just a form of denial, playing perfectly into the Left’s playbook.
We need to be expressing ANGER instead of compassion toward someone who’s deranged. Recognize sheer evil brilliance when it shows up. Yes, it seems “unbelievable” to you. Must have evoked the same astonishment in the kulaks.
The Once and his cronies, building on 50 years of socialist/statist incrementalism, have achieved far more in under a year and a half, than our declared enemies, the Soviet Cold War alliance, was able to in over 40 years. This regime is simultaneously redistributing US wealth, dismantling the economy and diminishing our defenses; all trampling our Law and Constitution.
They’re calling it politics? I’m calling it legislative enslavement; ie, treason. Just think, even if the conservative factions prevail in 2010-12 and manage to save US from total collapse, the Leftist instigators get to retire on our dime. Concedes upfront, that what they’re doing ain’t wrong, no?
Sorry scythe, meant @23
“It was a celebration of Palestinian culture — a night of music, dancing and a dash of politics…”
Dancing is part of Palestinian culture???? Guess they enjoy trip-bombing the light fantastic and dancing until the jihadis come home.
You need a subpoena. File a lawsuit about a related matter and subpoena the tape.
Do we know if multiple copies of the tape were made? Try to get one of those “extra” copies. OR maybe a seperate recording not associated with the Times’ protected source was made, such as from local TV media, Chicago Tribune or Chicago Sun-Times. They may be able to fill in the elipsis gap.
Mr. Simon, the only discrepancy I have with your article is there’s no such place as ‘Palestine’, let alone a ‘Palestinean American’.
Hey – we’re all capitalists, here, so let’s try that route. Start a fund that everyone can kick into what they can spare: a buck, five bucks, ten. When it hits fifty thousand, offer it to the first individual who brings in an unaltered copy of the tape. No questions, no ID required.
There’d be a line out the door.
Roger:
Take a lesson from Breitbart:
Publish a REWARD OFFER for the person who provides the tape. Take contributions to make the offer so outlandish that the LA Times will be forced to place the safe under a 24/7 armed guard.
Regards,
After giving this a little thought I have come to the conclusion we will never see the tape, even if it still exists. That being said it does not matter. The real isssue that needs a public outing is that there is a tape. Just keep saying that the tape exists and we do not know what is on it. Do not speculate to the contents, let the readers and audience do that for you. What is most important is to keep the subject (Unseen Tape) in the public mind. That alone will do what even seeing the tape could never do. It will raise another issue of transparancy (NOT) and the objectivity of the press. In order for this to work we must not speculate on the contents but want to be informed as is our right to be about our elected officials.
YOU ONLY HIDE WHAT CAN HURT YOU AND YOUR CAUSE; ERGO: THE LAT IS HIDING WHAT WOULDS HURT OBAMA AND THE ANTI-ZIONIST CAUSE.
IF THE TAPE WAS HARMLESS THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED.
I remember the suppression of that tape very well and I wrote to Mr. Wallsten at the time asking why a tape like that before a Presidential Election wasn’t aired as it was vital for the People to know just who they were voting for and all information was/is hidden about Mr. Obama. “Didn’t he think” I asked “it was vital to the Nation’s security to know if Mr. Obama was associating with a cabal of terrorists since he just might be President.” He wrote back and said, “nice word cabal” but can’t release the tape. Its not only that tape that is suppressed by the MSM, its everything pertaining to Mr. Obama’s past, he is the first President ever to be such a cypher, an enigma wrapped in a conundrum. It’s like he really has something bad to hide, that not only did he break bread with terrorists and enemies of the country but the Los Angeles Times still suppresses just what that might be; 1984, Department of Truth anyone?
This is a GREAT idea! Under their fiduciary responsibilility wouldn’t they be REQUIRED to consider it? A website presenting a petition and ‘promises’ to donate for the tape if they agree would measure the temperature.
And this is why the MSM and papers like the LA Times are imploding, they are shill left wing rags for pushing propaganda. How can a newspaper that’s only purpose is to print the news NOT release this tape?! Laughable, and the Jews march to the gas chamber with Obama. What a stupid collection of people.
How about putting in a bid for the tape with the Tribune Co receiver?
Advertiser boycotts don’t work; but mockery does. References to the LA Times need to include verbiage that the Times is corrupt and willing to suppress legitimate news for political ends. If the story can get enough traction outside of PJ Media, it will discredit the Times and they’ll have to come clean if they expect to retain a public perception of journalists.
Their story about getting the tape from an anonymous donor is so ludicrous that it’s astonishing anyone would even consider it to be legitimate. Why in the world would a news organization agree to receive a video tape with a commitment to keep it suppressed? That’s not what news organizations do. Why would the Times enter into such an agreement, and how does that coincide with their mission of news publication? Call them what they are: corrupt shills and mock them mercilessly for cowardice. The Times fears the truth and when you don’t have the truth on your side, it’s time to evaluate their priorities. We can shove them along the path.
Alma: I like your idea.
One minor point though. I don’t believe — from reading Roger’s article and some comments above — that the LAT has ever claimed the tape’s supplier was “anonymous.” Rather, I think their position is that they have an “agreement” with the source that they don’t wish to violate.
I hope it’s clear that I am in no way attempting to defend the LAT — am merely attempting to clarify this point.
It’s an interesting situation. The First Amendment guarantees free speech, which necessarily includes the right to not speak. No private concern is obligated to provide confidential information to the public. So the LAT is within its rights to not release the tape.
It is, however, journalistic malpractice to let a “confidential source” dictate how leaked information will be used. Acting that way virtually guarantees that the journalist is being used by the source to spin a story.
While the LAT is under no legal obligation to release the video, there’s nothing wrong with applying moral suasion and business pressure on them.
Perhaps we need to take another tack: if there’s one copy of the tape, the odds are very good that there is more than one copy floating around out there. Almost certainly in hands friendly to both Khalidi and Obama, but out there in the hands of some one or more private individuals. While the LA Times probably can’t be persuaded to release the video, perhaps cold hard cash can pry it from those private hands….
The LA Times is safely in the Progressive fold and is part of the Obama Media acolytes. If it is in the least damaging to Obama and the Progressive Movement it will never see the light of day until Hell freezes over or the LA Times is sold to someone who isn’t part of Progressive Movement and gets rid of a lot of the editorial staff. Of course if it’s really damaging they probably destroyed it already to protect Obama.
Roger,
If you can get the GOP to completely shut down any contact with the LA Slimes, and get Israel to expel any reporters they might have there until the tape is released, you might stand an outside chance.
Otherwise, your best chance is getting some rich conservative to buy the paper and release it.
Well, if Khalidi is in the Edward Said chair, that means that he and his supporters can comprehensively understand and vociferously criticize the West; but Westerners, conversely, still see everything from their incorrigibly colonialist perspective, so they can’t even begin to understand the rest of the world and its grievances, and would therefore be prone to misinterpret the dinner-party tape as advocating genocidal hate or violence. Therefore they shouldn’t be allowed to see it, and need to in general shut up, unless they’re like apologizing or giving aid.
We do not need the tape.
We can see Iran on the way to become a nuclear power.
That’s all we need to know about this administration’s goals: weaken America, strengthen the enemies of Freedom.
And we know already that they are sacrificing Israel on the bloody altars of “progress”.
It’s very sad, and many lefties who believe that there is no real danger will sorely regret their blind faith in the Nth “leader maximo”.
Anyway, let’s work hard for a victory in November, to begin the roll-back of the marxist administration.
you are correct.
I just don’t see any politicians reversing the damage done by obama. he still has time to make the damage beyond repair.
The public has an absolute right to make up its own mind and decide if the President is every bit as awful as the L.A. Times says or if he is even worse. What, Bush is no longer President? I mean the public can’t be permitted to get the wrong impression because you can really screw up people from having the right opinions if the video was taken from the wrong angle. It should remain in the vault.
A few major advertisers applying pressure and/or pulling their ads would certainly get The Times’ attention.
Better quick get a screen shot of that Wallsten article. It’s not long for this world….
When the California University system stopped its affirmative action, Black students (and others) graduation rates jumped up significantly.
Enrollment at elite campuses declined, but at other campuses they increased. No overall decline in enrollment, and continued increases overall which have nothing to do with affirmative action. However they were not overwhelmed at the lessor campuses and tended to succeed to graduation, earning degrees at a much higher rate. Much lower drop out rate as well.
Roger,
Pajamas Media provides wonderful commentary, has for the most part becoming my editorial of choice, and I’m sure you audience is enlarging.
One thing I have never understood about media and maybe you can enlighten me? I admit this question is absolutely full of my own assumptions, as I am about as abjectly ignorant of how news media works as one can get.
However…
I am almost sure PJM small potatoes compared to something like The Drudge Report with its 30MM visits a day. This is a very legitimate news story and yours a very legitimate request for information. This needs to be shared across the entire spectrum of interests and like a reader above suggested, shame works wonders against executives – this I know for a fact.
Surely with the ties of PJM, you guys have far better access to the powers at FOX News, Drudge and the like. Can you have them run with it for you?
One other thing. I don’t have to be a trained psychiatrist to know that the choice of preacher, priest or rabbi invariably says much about the mindset of the congregants.
Only a fool would deny Jeremiah Wright an avid Jew hater and an influence on an impressionable young mind. It’s not much of a stretch to believe at least some of Wright’s outrageous assertions about Jews took hold of the Obama conscience after the man sat 20 years in one of Wright’s pews listening to the “Reverend’s” filth.
Using the MSM precedent, why not author a “transcript” provided by a confidential source, e.g. Carlos Castenada, writing what you think is on the transcript. If the L.A.T. questions its authenticity, they can produce the original tape.
I’ve thought that indeed this is the way to get a rebuttal from LAT. Just claim that what you have is an accurate transcript – you may make all sorts of outrageous or certainly damaging statements, and need to be prepared for a lawsuit – but unless they provide the original tape, it will be believed.
Using ridicule of the LAT should help in getting a response as well.
Best idea yet… Put Wellston`s name after the transcript
This is a superb idea. It’s exactly what the left is doing all the time – they fabricate a story and tell it so many times that people either start to believe it or someone comes with the truth. In this case (the tape) it’s a definite win-win.
This tape is one of the reasons that prompted the lies in an open letter from Rabbi’s for Obama – who endorsed Obama at that time and lied to voters then (as they continue to do now) because they are social justice democrats first and foremost
Here is the letter – for which they should, but will never, apologize:
These Rabbis Promised Us Obama Would Be a Longstanding Stalwart Supporter of Israel – They Owe us an Apology
Here’s the letter from Rabbis for Obama where they assured Jews it was safe to Vote for Obama and that he was a friend of Israel:
We join together to support Senator Obama for President, and we do so in the belief that he will best support the issues important to us in the Jewish community.
Some of us know Senator Obama personally, and we recognize that he has been inspired by Jewish values such as Tikkun Olam and the pursuit of justice, and he is deeply committed as well to a civil discourse between opposing arguments. We also know that Senator Obama will inspire young people, both in the Jewish community and the wider American community, to become more involved in improving this country and repairing the world.
We know that Barack Obama’s longstanding, stalwart support for Israel is a testament to his own principles as well as the strong bi-partisan pro-Israel movement in America, and we fear that the attempts by some to use Israel as a wedge issue against him – unjustifiably – is dangerous in that it politicizes the pro-Israel position. Most importantly it has completely distorted Senator Obama’s record. With his tough but pragmatic approach to Iran, Senator Obama is in the best position to restore faith in America as a leader in the fight against serious threats to Israel, our allies, and the United States.
Senator Barack Obama inspires in us the hope for an America once more called to its best values. We know him to be a man of incredible integrity, born of a deep and abiding spiritual faith based on the teachings of the Hebrew Prophets, and committed to achieving a world of peace with justice for all people.
The rabbis names, many of which are familiar, appear after the jump:
Rabbi Sam Gordon, National Co-Chair, Rabbis for Obama
Rabbi Steve Bob, National Co-Chair, Rabbis for Obama
Vice-Chairs:
Rabbi Rachel Cowan, New York, NY
Rabbi Ellen Weinberg Dreyfus, Homewood, IL
* Rabbi Elliot Dorff, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Steve Foster, Denver, CO
Rabbi Dayle Friedman, Philadelphia, PA
* Rabbi Laura Geller, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Don Gluckman, Pikesville, MD
Rabbi Nancy Fuchs Kreimer, Wyncote, PA
Rabbi Charles Kroloff, Westfield, NJ
* Rabbi Richard N. Levy, Encino, CA
Rabbi Brian Lurie, San Francisco, CA
Rabbi Rachel Mikva, Rye Brook, NY
Rabbi Jack Moline, Alexandria, VA
Rabbi Charles Simon, New York, NY
Rabbi David Teutsch, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Burt Visotzky, New York, NY
Rabbi Ethan Tucker, New York, NY
Members:
* Rabbi Jonathan Aaron, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Bruce Abrams, Cleveland Heights, OH
Rabbi David Adelson, New York, NY
Rabbi Adam M. Allenberg, Mountain View, CA
Rabbi Victor Appell, New York, NY
Rabbi Stephen A. Arnold, S. Easton, MA
Rabbi Aryeh Azriel, Omaha, NE
Rabbi Larry Bach, El Paso, TX
Rabbi Andy Bachman, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Chava Bahle, Suttons Bay, MI
Rabbi Andrew Baker, Washington, D.C.
Rabbi Michael Barenbaum, Marin, CA
Rabbi Benjy Bar-Lev, Cincinnati, OH
Rabbi Lewis Barth, Encino, CA
Rabbi Morris Barzilai, New Rochelle, NY
Rabbi Elliot Baskin, Greenwood Village, CO
Rabbi Renee Bauer, Madison, WI
Rabbi Pamela Frydman Baugh, San Francisco, CA
* Rabbi Leonard I. Beerman, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Annie Belford, St. Louis, MO
* Rabbi Karen Bender, Tarzana, CA
Rabbi Donald R. Berlin, St. Michaels, MD
* Rabbi Linda Bertenthal, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Marjorie Berman, Philadelphia PA
Rabbi Phyllis Berman, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Jonathan Biatch, Madison, WI
Rabbi Michael Birnholz, Vero Beach, FL
Rabbi Aaron B. Bisno, Pittsburgh, PA
Rabbi Joshua Boettiger, Bennington, VA
Rabbi Terry Bookman, Miami, Fl
Rabbi Jill Borodin, Seattle, WA
Rabbi Neal Borovitz, River Edge, NJ
* Rabbi Sara Brandes, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Herbert Bronstein, Glencoe, IL
Rabbi Lester Bronstein, White Plains, NY
Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, New York, NY
Rabbi Gustav Buchdahl, Baltimore, MD
Rabbi Caryn Broitman, W. Tisbury, MA
Rabbi Daniel M. Bronstein, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Carol Caine Berkeley, CA
Rabbi Debra S. Cantor Newington, CT
* Rabbi Kenneth Chasen, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Steven Chester, Oakland, CA
Rabbi Hillel Cohn, San Bernardino, CA
Rabbi David J. Cooper, Piedmont, CA
Rabbi Julian I. Cook, Denver, CO
Rabbi Mychal Copeland, Stanford, CA
Rabbi Laurie Coskey, Poway, CA
Rabbi Meryl M. Crean, Media, PA
Rabbi Menachem Creditor, Berkeley, CA
* Rabbi William Cutter, Los Angeles, CO
Rabbi Eric Cytryn, Harrisburg, PA
Rabbi Harry K Danziger, Germantown, TN
Rabbi Andrew Davids, Croton On Hudson, NY
* Rabbi Stanley Davids, Santa Monica, CA
Rabbi Jerome Davidson, Kings Point, NY
Rabbi Eliezer Diamond, Teaneck, NJ
Rabbi Fred Dobb, Bethesda, MD
Rabbi William Dreskin, Greenburgh, NY
Rabbi Renee Edelman, South Orange, NJ
Rabbi Amy Eilberg, St. Paul, MN
Rabbi Bruce Elder, Highland Park, IL
Rabbi Sue Levi Elwell, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Shira Koch Epstein, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Daniel Fellman, East Brunswick, NJ
Rabbi Brian Field, Denver CO
Rabbi Daniel Fink, Boise, ID
* Rabbi Reuven Firestone, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Alan Flam, Barrington, RI
Rabbi Nancy Flam, Northampton, MA
Rabbi Ellen Flax, New York, NY
Rabbi Michael Friedland, South Bend, IN
Rabbi Joan S. Friedman, Wooster, OH
Rabbi Marsha Friedman, Elkins Park, PA
Rabbi Ronne Friedman, Brookline, MA
Rabbi Stacy Friedman, San Rafael, CA
Rabbi Randy Fleisher St. Louis, MO
Rabbi Serena Fujita, Lewisburg, PA
Rabbi Jack S. Gabriel, Sonoma, CA
Rabbi Ruth Gais, Summit, NJ
Rabbi Hillel Gamoran, Seattle, WA
* Rabbi Robert T. Gan, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Rachel Gartner, Montclair, NJ
Rabbi Ruth Gelfarb, New York, NY
Rabbi Jonathan Gerard, Easton, PA
Rabbi Gary Gerson, Oak Park, IL
Rabbi Gordon Gladstone, Bayonne NJ
* Rabbi Miriyam Glazer, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Steve Glazer, Herndon, VA
Rabbi Mark Glickman, Woodinville, WA
Rabbi Arnie Gluck, Skillman, NJ
Rabbi Shai Gluskin, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Rosalind Gold, Reston, VA
Rabbi Gerald A. Goldman, Holyoke, MA
Rabbi James Stone Goodman, St. Louis, MO
Rabbi Joseph Goldman, Denver, CO
Rabbi Andrea Goldstein, St. Louis, MO
* Rabbi Jerrold Goldstein, Sherman Oaks, CA
Rabbi Jeffrey W. Goldwasser, Williamstown, MA
Rabbi Stephen Goodman, Garden City, NY
Rabbi Donald Goor, Tarzana, CA
Rabbi Seth William Goren, Washington, DC
* Rabbi Joshua Levine Grater, Pasadena, CA
Rabbi Alan Greenbaum, Grass Valley, CA
Rabbi C. Michelle Greenberg, Northfield, IL
Rabbi David Greenspoon, Baltimore, MD
Rabbi Suzanne Griffel, Chicago, IL
Rabbi Daniel Gropper, Rye, NY
Rabbi Susan Grossman, Columbia, MD
Rabbi Joshua Gutoff, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Debra Hachen, Demarest, NJ
Rabbi Shoshana Hantman, Katonah, NY
Rabbi Maurice Harris, Eugene, OR
Rabbi Robert Harris, White Plains, NY
* Rabbi Alan Henkin, Northridge, CA
Rabbi Jeffrey Hoffman, White Plains, NY
Rabbi Elliot Holin, Elkins Park, PA
Rabbi Lauren Holtzblatt, New Haven, CT
Rabbi Linda Holtzman, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Margaret Holub, Mendecino, CA
Rabbi Abie Ingber, Cincinnati, OH
* Rabbi Steven B. Jacobs, Woodland Hills, CA
Rabbi Devorah Jacobson, Amherst, MA
Rabbi Howard L. Jaffe, Lexington, MA
Rabbi Jennifer Jaech, Peekskill NY
Rabbi Rebecca Joseph, New York, NY
Rabbi Bruce Kadden, Tacoma, WA
Rabbi Amy Kalmanofsky, New York, NY
Rabbi Jeremy Kalmanofsky, New York, NY
* Rabbi Ben Kamin, Del Mar, CA
Rabbi Debra Newman Kamin, Highland Park, IL
Rabbi Susan Kanoff, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Ken Kanter, Cincinnati, OH
Rabbi Patricia Karlin-Neumann, Palo Alto, CA
Rabbi Henry Jay Karp, Davenport, IA
Rabbi Mario Karpuj, Sandy Springs, GA
Rabbi Nancy Kasten, Dallas, TX
* Rabbi Jim Kaufman, Valley Village, CA
Rabbi David Kay, Orlando, Florida
Rabbi Benjamin G. Kelsen, Teaneck, NJ
Rabbi Jimmy Kessler, Galveston, TX
Rabbi Ralph P. Kingsley, Aventura, FL
Rabbi Andrew Klein, Barrington, RI
Rabbi Jason Klein, Baltimore, MD
* Rabbi Jonathan Klein, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Lori Klein, Capitola, CA
Rabbi Myriam Klotz, Bala Cynwyd, PA
Rabbi Norman Koch, New Milford, CT
Rabbi Debora Kohn, Berkeley, CA
Rabbi Stephanie D. Kolin, Boston, MA
Rabbi Neil E Kominsky, Brookline, MA
Rabbi Sandford Kopnick, Cincinnati, OH
Rabbi Ira Korinow, Haverhill, MA
Rabbi Allen Krause, Mission Viejo, CA
Rabbi Lawrence Kushner, San Francisco, CA
Rabbi Noa Kushner, San Anselmo, CA
Rabbi Steven Kushner, Montclair, NJ
Rabbi Harold Kudan, Glencoe, IL
Rabbi Judith Kummer, Roslindale, MA
* Rabbi Gail Labovitz, Los Angeles, CA
* Rabbi Susan Laemmle, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Lynne Landsberg, Washington, D.C.
Rabbi Shira Lander, Baltimore, MD
Rabbi Michael Adam Latz, Seattle, WA
Rabbi Alan LaPayover, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi William Lebeau, New York, NY
Rabbi Morton Leifman, New York, NY
Rabbi Michael Lerner, San Francisco, CA
Rabbi Carol Levithan, New York, NY
Rabbi Charles S. Levi, Deerfield, IL
Rabbi Yael Levy, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Joel Levine, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Rabbi Valerie Lieber, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Rebecca Lillian, Chicago, IL
Rabbi John A. Linder, Phoenix, AZ
Rabbi Steven Lowenstein, Glencoe, IL
Rabbi Jonathan Malamy, White Plains, NY
Rabbi Jonathan Z. Maltzman, North Bethesda, MD
Rabbi Howard Mandell, Virginia Beach, VA
Rabbi Janet Marder, Palo Alto, CA
Rabbi Susan Marks, Sarasota, FL
Rabbi Simeon Maslin, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi J. Rolando Matalon, New York, NY
Rabbi Dennis N. Math, New York, NY
Rabbi Gary Mazo, Marstons Mills, MA
Rabbi Bernard Mehlman, Brookline, MA
Rabbi Shira Milgrom, White Plains, NY
Rabbi Bennett Miller, Monroe Township, NJ
Rabbi Joshua Minkin, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Victor Mirelman, River Forest, IL
Rabbi Michael A. Monson, West Orange, NJ
Rabbi Leon A. Morris, New York, NY
Rabbi Jay Henry Moses, New York, NY
* Rabbi Dan Moskovitz, Tarzana, CA
Rabbi Anat Moskowitz, Denver, CO
Rabbi Shelly Moss, Sun City, AZ
* Rabbi Perry Netter, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Avi S. Olitzky, St. Louis Park, MN
Rabbi Kerry M. Olitzky, New York, NY
Rabbi Shaul Osadchey, Houston, TX
Rabbi Melinda Panken, Manalapan, NJ
* Rabbi Julie Pelc, Venice, CA
Rabbi Daniel Plotkin, St. Louis, MO
Rabbi Dan Polish, Poughkeepsie, NY
Rabbi Jeffrey Portman, Iowa City, IA
Rabbi Linda Potemken, Wynnewood, PA
Rabbi Amber Powers, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Dan Rabishaw, Northbrook, IL
* Rabbi Bruce Raff, Woodland Hills, CA
Rabbi Avram I. Reisner, Baltimore, MD
Rabbi Michael Remson, Kenosha, WI
Rabbi Dorothy A. Richman, Berkeley, CA
Rabbi Yair Robinson, Holland, PA
Rabbi Liz Rolle, Stamford, CT
Rabbi Norman Roman, West Bloomfield, MI
Rabbi Jack Romberg, Tallahassee, FL
Rabbi Carnie Shalom Rose, Creve Coeur, MO
Rabbi David Rosenn, New York, NY
Rabbi Jennie Rosenn, New York, NY
Rabbi Donald B. Rossoff, Morristown, NJ
Rabbi Dennis S. Ross, Worcester, MA
Rabbi Gloria Rubin, Oakland, NJ
Rabbi Sarah Niebuhr Rubin, Keene, NH
* Rabbi JB Sacks-Rosen, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Selig Salkowitz, Fair Lawn, NJ
Rabbi Joanna Samuels, New York, NY
Rabbi David Sandmel, Chicago, IL
Rabbi Marty Scharf, Scottsdale, AZ
Rabbi Phil Schechter, Stamford CT
Rabbi Leonard A. Schoolman, New York, NY
Rabbi Bob Schreibman, Lincolnshire, IL
Rabbi Barry Schwartz, Cherry Hill, NJ
Rabbi Allen Secher, Whitefish, MA
Rabbi Ron Segal, Atlanta, GA
Rabbi Gerry Serotta, Chevy Chase, MD
Rabbi Ike Serotta, Deerfield, IL
Rabbi Mark Dov Shapiro, Longmeadow, MA
Rabbi Mark S. Shapiro, Glenview, IL
Rabbi Richard J. Shapiro, Port Washington, NY
Rabbi Roxanne Shapiro, Milwaukee, WI
Rabbi Leonard Sharzer, New York, NY
* Rabbi John Sherwood, Oxnard, CA
Rabbi Howard Siegel, Houston, TX
Rabbi Howard Singer, Hinsdale, MA
Rabbi Jonathan Singer, Seattle, WA
* Rabbi Suzanne Singer, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Eric J. Siroka, South Bend, IN
Rabbi Eleanor Smith, Evanston, IL
Rabbi David Sofian, Dayton, OH
* Rabbi Ruth Sohn, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Myra Soifer, Reno, NV
Rabbi Felicia L. Sol, New York, NY
Rabbi Rav Soloff, Lansdale, PA
Rabbi Eric M. Solomon, Raleigh, NC
Rabbi Jennifer R. Solomon, Raleigh, NC
Rabbi Marla Spanjer, Fort Wayne, IN
Rabbi Bernard Spielman, Boynton Beach, FL
Rabbi Judy Spicehandler, Glencoe, IL
Rabbi Reena Spicehandler, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi David Spitz, Vernon Hills, IL
Rabbi Moishe Steigmann, Mamaroneck, NY
Rabbi Margot Stein, Philadelphia, PA
* Rabbi Ron Stern, Los Angeles, CA
Rabbi Jeffrey Stiffman, St. Louis, MO
Rabbi Kurt Stone, Coral Springs, FL
Rabbi Elliot Strom, Yardley, PA
Rabbi Joshua Strom, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Shira Stutman, Philadelphia, PA
Rabbi Alvin M. Sugarman, Atlanta, GA
Rabbi Brooks Susman, Freehold, NJ
Rabbi Karen Sussan
Rabbi Susan Talve, St. Louis, MO
Rabbi Laurie Hahn Tapper, Redwood City, CA
Rabbi Joshua S. Taub, St. Louis, MO
Rabbi Michael Tayvah, Portland, OR
Rabbi Jeffrey M. Marker, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Abby Treu, New York, NY
Rabbi Leonard B. Troupp, Melville, NY
Rabbi Annie Tucker, Princeton, NJ
Rabbi Brian Walt, West Tisbury, MA
Rabbi Gerry Walter, Cincinnati, OH
Rabbi Andrew Warmflash, Hewlett, NY
Rabbi Pamela Wax, Hartsdale, NY
Rabbi Joshua Waxman, Fort Washington, PA
Rabbi Michael Weinberg, Evanston, IL
Rabbi Sheila Peltz Weinberg, Amherst, MA
Rabbi Martin Weiner, San Francisco, CA
Rabbi David M. Weis, Northfield, NJ
Rabbi Simkha Y. Weintraub, Brooklyn, NY
Rabbi Binah Wing Rockford, IL
Rabbi Arnold Jacob Wolf, Chicago, IL
Rabbi Leo R. Wolkow, Homewood, IL
Rabbi Stanley Yedwab, Redmond, WA
Rabbi Ira Youdovin, Chicago, IL
Rabbi Sara Zacharia, Newton Centre, MA
Rabbi Joel H Zaiman, Baltimore, MD
Rabbi Mary L. Zamore, Westfield, NJ
Rabbi Deborah Zecher, Great Barrington, MA
Rabbi Elaine Zecher, Newton, MA
Rabbi Michael Zedek, Chicago, IL
Rabbi Daniel G. Zemel, Washington, DC
Rabbi Brian Zimmerman, Dallas, TX
Rabbi David Zucker, Aurora, CO
Rabbi Josh Zweiback, Los Altos, CA
What an embarrassing list to be on.
Depressing is more like it.
oy vey!
Oy gevalt.
A 21st century list of Kapos….. this sickens me….
Do you remember the lines from Schindler’s List… when upon finishing up the List, Yitzchak Stern said to Schindler (Paraphrasing from memory)… the list is Light… the list is Life… all round its edges….
The above list of stupid, stupid Rabbis, is a list of Darkness and Death, of those who would deliver Israel unto its enemies…
I know one of these Rabbi’s very well; he is smart and ethical; but politically correct, ultra-liberal and out of his league in endorsing/analyzing a candidate. I remember telling him one of his closest friends would ultimately `stab him in the back; which she did…he almost did not speak to me after I told him…Let them stick to their books and sermons and keep their mouths shut in areas they have no expertise…
That is the problem… by sticking only to books and sermons, then these rabbis are NOT living in the real world… They are just as removed from the real world as ivory-tower professors in Academia … and just look how many of them are Fantasy-land liberals…
These rabbis are supposed to be founts of wisdom… not just from book-learning, but also wisdom of the common-sense variety and in making value judgements… by looking at a person’s background, by looking at the company he keeps, by analyzing his voting records and who and what he espouses.
Supporting Obumbles just because he is a Democrat indicates to me that these rabbis put their brains on hold and became sheep…. Supposedly these rabbis are “pillars” of the community… no wonder the attendance at synagogues are dwindling….how can the community respect them at all?
As for me and my house, we believe in Reality, not Fantasyland.
It would be interesting for someone to make a list of ALL the facts that we KNOW have been sealed in the case of our elected “king”. Remember the last thing he did as a mere mortal: he went to Hawaii to personally seal his “records”. How does a mere mortal do that and make it stick? Can WE seal our records? If we were to do so, what we sealed would have to be a large embarrassment, and not just regular paperwork. Just imagine how much data our esteemed “leader” has hidden away in various caves and the such, given the large number of requests he has received in the last year or so. Wow.
Either find an ally inside the Times to liberate the tape, or else resuscitate The Plumbers. Just tell them not to tape open any doors.
The Times will never release this on their own. They are as vile and anti-Semitic as Khalidi and Obama, and I wouldn’t put it past them to destroy it. It wouldn’t be a crime since they are not under subpoena and apparently are not covering anything up, except the truth.
But we know what the truth is anyway.
Yea: get Liddy and J Dean together and back on the trail of those demoquacks…only this time it will be different, this time…
Stories like this make me suspect we’ve all been mispronouncing the President’s last name all this time.
We’ve been pronouncing it O·BAH·ma — but it should be pronounced O·MER·ta.
Thanks for following this issue. The American public has a right to know the truth about our President, who unfortunately hides behind an iron curtain of legal mishmash.
I long ago ago applied the eleventh commandment, “Thou shalt not enable”, to my Times subscription and urge others to do the same. The petition and advertiser boycott ideas are about all we citizens can do individually.
Can you put out a petition and list of enabling advertisers for us to use?
Please continue your efforts to get some patriot within the Times to shine the light of day on this video.
Take out a full page ad in a national newspaper challenging the L.A. Times to release the tape. Specifically demand to know what was in that intriguing portion that was deleted from BO’s comments.
No, thank you Mr. Simon.
Better to judge and fight the President on his actions now than judge him by what he said or felt earlier.(not that I would believe anything he ever said, so help me God.) Time seems to be fleeting but is always of the essence now more than ever.
Try contacting the management of Tribune Company (the owner of the LA Times). I think most all of them are Jewish and may have an interest.
If you send them this article along with a request to shake the tree over at LA Times, maybe something could happen.
Sam Zell–Chairman talktosam@tribune.com
Randy Michaels–CEO rmichaels@tribune.com
Gerry Spector–COO gspector@tribune.com
It can’t hurt.
If only the fact of their religious persuasion could be assumed to have any bearing on their interest. But, I agree, it can’t hurt.
Reader lettrs to them are worthless…
Find out who has influence on them…
The ad biz is historically fond of the “teaser” approach when facing limited budgets:
Fund a billboard in a provocative and highly visible place (not visible to foot traffic, per se – rather, a spot that is likely to become “newsworthy” and go viral due to its placement). Look for a spot with a provocative, recognizable or symbolic building or landmark nearby… photos of your billboard will then include the background view and lend both power and context to the visual. Buildings or locations with obvious context to the Jewish population spring to mind, but so do other more “neutral” locations… near the L.A. Times building, another large media outlet or American political and cultural sites such as the Pentagon or CIA headquarters, etc. Again, the general idea is to compound the “mystery” of the teaser and cause viewers to infer their own associations… to invest mental energy and become “involved” in the billboard. The billboard isn’t the message… the photo of the billboard is the message.
The creative component of the billboard should be cryptic and compelling. As simple as “Where’s the tape?” A plain, graphic treatment like this will keep costs to a bare minimum. Near the end of the media buy, when the message has hopefully gone viral and gained the desired attention, simply splash a website on the billboard that “answers” the question while also posing a new question that demands further involvement from the viewer. For example, something lurid like “thekhalidicoverup.com” or “Obamasdirt.com” (check with your lawyers, of course). Your website can then fill in the blanks.
This is a cheap, proven and time-honored approach. Ideally you can hit more than one location at the same time, to maximize interest. Find a sympathetic media buyer to donate some time searching for a spot. Find a sympathetic owner of a billboard/media company to donate the board, or give you a reduced rate. Search for and contact any of the individuals involved in the recent “Miss Me Yet?” billboards and ask them to share their experiences with you.
Better yet… use the Pajamas Media network to establish a small group of dedicated people willing to use this billboard method in a sustained and coordinated national campaign. I know you have the brains, ability and dedication to pull this off, Mr. Simon.
Good luck.
You definitely seem to have either experience in advertising or an intuitive grasp of it — as that was a very good suggestion. I think though that Roger may see it as beyond the “traditional purview” of “journalism.” But maybe not and maybe Roger would be up to waging a “campaign” of this nature. The next question I would imagine him asking himself then would be “do I back this as being from ‘Pajamas Media’ or do I do this under my name only?”
I suspect you may be right about the “traditional purview” of “playing dirty.”
Sad fact is, most conservatives view playing dirty as, well, playing dirty. There’s a lot of hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing over the tactics employed by the left, but few are ever willing to actually play ball. Except when it comes to accepting “blame” from the left for perceived slights, insensitivity, etc. Like it or not, conservatives have agrees to play by the rules set by the left, and have likewise agreed to lose every time.
The very thought of adopting successful tactics or strategies seems somehow abhorrent to conservatives. You can name any number of highly organized and well-funded groups on the left… ACORN, Moveon.org, etc., etc., etc. But try to name even one on the “right” with the same brand awareness or ability to get a message out.
If Mr. Simon – or anyone else for that matter – truly wants to see the “Khalidi Tape” released, it’ll take a lot more than an occasional blog posting. It’ll take a concerted and sustained effort to damage the L.A. Times brand. That’s the only way. Again, I’d suggest the outdoor advertising route as it’s proven and cost-effective, and lends itself well to going viral as a “news” item. The Times and other mainstream media outlets pride themselves – and defend themselves – not on their impartiality but on their professionalism. Screaming that the press is “biased” has no effect whatsoever. I suspect it actually gives most newsrooms a case of the giggles. So hit ‘em where it hurts. Paint them as betraying the very principles of a “free press.” Make the scandal about the LA Times itself. The left has done a wonderful job or targeting the messengers and ignoring the message. Do the same.
Go to any listing of the top ten conservative websites. The owners of these sites can quite easily contact each other with the intention of setting up a low-cost alternative to Moveon. George Soros has no fear of hurting his brand by using such an outlet. The Obama Administration does not fear enlisting the help of sympathetic bloggers, unions, media outlets and “community groups” to spread its messaging.
Ultimately, the goal is to get the press to report on the hidden tape. But they won’t. So force them to report on something *related* to the tape. Get them to report on the scandal at the LA Times. An advertising campaign is probably most effective, as the message can be carefully considered and executed. Protests, press conferences, etc. can all introduce too many unwanted, irrelevant and potentially distracting variables. A slip of the tongue… you name it.
Anyway, and again… good luck with it.
There’s no doubting the logic of your very nicely posed strategy. The “potential problem” comes — as you seem to agree — with the motivation and willingness to go outside his “normal way of fighting,” i.e. writing. And for that matter, the same question can be asked of all of us. If Roger *were* to follow your lead in any way shape or form, and he asked for *some* type of support from the rest of us, to what extent *would* we line up behind him given the slightly bare-knuckles approach of the strategy(?)
I think Roger could start by putting out a “feeler” among Pajamas readers by setting up an operating fund and seeing to what extent we contribute. That should give him a good indication of the level of support he can expect “in general” from PJM readers.
He could always plow the money back into PJM if it did not amount to much. Although he should announce that ahead of time for ethical reasons.
I’d seek support for particular initiatives, rather than ask for general support through a “tip jar.” People want to know where their money’s going. They also want to feel they’re doing something concrete rather than just supporting “the cause.” Using the billboard example, Pajamas Media could provide a mock-up of an execution and seek pledges to pay for the board’s production and media buy, alongside an explicit fund-raising goal to help chart progress towards completion. Another idea would be to take the popular “caption contest” theme but actually offer a “prize.” The prize in this case could be that the best entry get made into that billboard ad, etc. Getting people involved is the key to success. Many other “community groups” figured this out a long time ago. The online conservative community, however, hasn’t quite realized yet that it really is a “community.” Sites like Pajamas Media, Hot Air and First Things form a small part of that community, and are currently in a position to provide leadership.
Many have found a satisfying outlet in reading and posting comments on these sites. Many also have talent and practical experience in fields that can aid in certain efforts. Mr. Simon is “writing to solicit the help and ideas of Pajamas Media readers for seeking the release of the tape to the public.” Here’s one: I’d take it a step further. Work together with other leading conservative voices to create an advocacy group, research group or volunteer network of those who can lend their skills on an ad hoc basis to achieve particular goals. I’ve come across readers and pundits who have valuable experience in advertising, marketing, public relations, journalism, political science and law, just to name a few relevant fields. What I have yet to come across is someone who can bring these people together -online – to achieve a common purpose.
Securing the release of the Khalidi Tape should not be the goal. It should be the test case.
James beat me to it, but perhaps we can lure G. Gordon Liddy out of retirement.
Cash has an amazing effect on people of all stripes. How about a reward?
Mr. Simon,
Great article the tape that many have forgotten.
I was one of the many thousands if not millions in the fall of 2008 who called and harassed the LA Times, Sam Zell, Anti Defamation League to get this tape released. I have a feeling we will NEVER see this tape, the full version anyway, b/c I have the suspicion that it well implicates Obama to the Muslim faith, something many of us, conservative, independent and non kool aid drinking Dems, feared through Obama’s political rise.
at this dinner, Obama either said something anti Semitic, discussed his deep ties to the Arab muslim culture, or worse, out right admitted he was a Muslim.
Why else would they hide it?
The American sheeple have been ignoring this and dancing around this thing for too long. The answer is right in front of their faces and they’re too blind to see it or do not want to admit their stupidity of how they let an impostor who is hell bent on destroying everything we see as sacred in America.
Most of these, 95% of them, are liberal Jews. they just don’t want to go there. They refuse to see it. Even though his middle name is Hussein, traveled to Pakistan at a time when non Muslims weren’t allowed in the country and was put through college on foreign money that came mostly from a Muslim.
Why would a Muslim man spend his money putting a Christian American kid through college?
Again, the answers are so obvious.
While I don’t think this tape will ever see the light of day from the LA Times, I don’t believe the only existing tape is in the safe.
Someone has to own a copy and is either waiting for the right moment to put it out there. Or, he/she is waiting for the highest bidder.
The only answer to getting it out there would be offer a high sum of money, a reward for whom ever comes forward with the unedited copy.
You give those at the LA Times too much credit. While the rank and file reporters do what they’re told, the people at the top are just like Pinchy Sulzberger and his merry band of liberal ideologues and they will never, ever have the backbone to release it.
John May Lives
Congress has subpoena power. Perhaps an enterprising group of GOP congressmen could investigate the President’s ties to Palestinian terror groups and their supporters. This tape would appear to be relevant to such an investigation and could be subpoenaed.
Good idea. Think Darrel Issa R CA
Good question; How to get that tape?
Three Guys Sitting In A Bar might observe that your policies lack a guerrilla military option as well as that the LA Times is more afraid of the PLO (yeah that PLO) than y’all Steven Spielberg types residing in Hollywood. Just saying.
You need some spies inside the LA Times to find out where the tapes are physically located?
We do know that the LA Times newspaper admits that the tape does exist but do they mention whether that object is video or merely audio tape recorder type? Off hand I would try a Freedom of Information Act request first. Secondly you might want to create a (bogus?} court case and then since the LA Times is not a government entity (I know what you are thinking), have your lawyer use your discovery rights to obtain the tapes as evidence as well. There is the possibility of asking a friendly District Attorney to subpoena the LA Times tape as a friend of the court. Keep in mind that the LA Times could release the tapes piecemeal, but that’s OK because one thing leads to another.
Have you thought of offering to buy the Khalidi tape from the LA Times? Request the complete tape retaining the option to threaten them with a boycott if they refuse to give it up.
Also, if all else fails, how about us all, this vast array of computer Simonistas agree to boycott services and products that the LA Times advertises? Just James trying to help.
johnmaylives- Nice handle and comment. It feels as if ‘V’isitors have been occupying the Hill for sometime now.
If only there were millions of pairs of those sunglasses from John Carpenter’s, ‘They Live’ to wake people from their entitlement slumber and use their grey matter again..
1. Take out a full page ad in the LAT.
2. Extrapolate from the info at hand: Obama is making his views on Israel quite clear via policy. And, the little we have about that party would suggest he was sympathetic to the Palestian cause.
3. Without the tape to exonerate him, all we can go on is what we have.
4. Paint the President as it appears.
5. Let him and/or the LAT correct it by producing evidence to the contrary.
This is what he and the Dems do all the time with far less.
Jonah Goldberg writes a column for the LA Dog Trainer editorial pages. What would happen if he were to write about the tape and ask why the editors won’t release it? Would the paper censor or reject the piece, or drop his column?
How would releasing the tape compromise the source? If camera angles could reveal the identity of the cameraman, why not release only the audio? If they don’t want to break a promise to a source, why not release a transcript of Obama’s remarks? Obviously, because Obama’s words wouldn’t make him look good, but editor Russ Stanton should be put on the spot to give on-the-record answers to these questions.
I think these are good ideas that create a strong argument to potentially box the paper into a corner.
http://www.latimes.com/news/columnists/la-columnist-jgoldberg,0,6021760.columnist
Offer a financial reward for anyone who can produce the tape. (I wonder if there are other recorded documents from that party besides this particular tape.) Maybe Breitbart would get on board with this.
Consider this, the LAT has already lost most of its right wing readers and many, many moderates, if it were to publish the tape it would loose the lefties! So what’s the chances?
If the tape contained really explosive material you can be sure it was destroyed. Why would they keep it in existence?
But #39 richb313 has it exactly right. It doesn’t matter what is on the tape, it doesn’t matter if it ever comes to light, just keep drilling away on bill boards and blogs that ‘there is a hidden tape… why’? Why is this tape hidden? Why? Why? Let the darker side of human imagination take its course and ‘duh tape’ will be given more damaging significance than anything that ‘could’ be on it. It’s a perfectly filthy thing to do and I hate myself for seconding rich313’s idea… NOT! LOL
Allow me to propose that the readers of this post put forward some nifty neato keen ideas as to what would look good on bill boards all over America highlighting this question. Woo-Hoo it’ll fun.
I think the fewer words on a billboard the better. All that’s needed is a tease, a hook, to set the reader’s mind thinking (that, of course, presumes that the reader can/will think, something one should never take for granted anymore).
You must remember – all this information will be so much more valueable when the ex-journalists seek contracts for their ‘tell all’ books.
One day after Obama leaves office will be a great day for the publishing industry.
I didn’t know there was anything to read in the LA Times other than the Fry’s ad.
To the question posed by the title of the article, the simple answer is because they are in on it – along with the rest of the liberal media. All the big liberal media players are in on the socialist takeover of this country in which they are playing a very important role. They do their part by ignoring or in this case quite openly burying negative stories, putting a positive spin on the administration and Congress wherever possible, even when they have to make it up, generally misleading the public as to what is really going on, and relentlessly vilifying political opponents to the point of absurdity. We know what they are doing; the main question is why and to what end? One thing that is unclear is that after the hoped-for transformation, what kind of country are they expecting to have created? It appears that it will bear only a superficial resemblance to the one that we know.
The Peter Wallsten article came out in the Spring of 2008. Those of us who were alarmed about Obama’s rise should have been a lot quicker to react to the story. Six months later when we made an issue of it the effort had an air of desperation. I was one of the thousands who phoned, emailed and faxed the reporter, the publisher, and editors. We even picketed the Times’ downtown office. They refused to print any of the thoughtful letters/emails, smugly saying they did not respond to organized campaigns.
Roger, consider challenging the bona fides of the LAT’s excuse by referencing the Society of Professional Journalists’ Code of Ethics. It’s an aspirational document, not a set of binding rules. But among many other provisions of which the LAT’s agreement with its source may run afoul, the Code prescribes that journalists should “[a]lways question sources’ motives before promising anonymity” and — because “[t]he public is entitled to as much information as possible on sources’ reliability” — that journalists should “[i]dentify sources whenever feasible.”
The LAT will probably respond that it considered those ethical rules, and that it has followed them. It will point to the rule which requires that professional journalists “keep promises,” including promises of confidentiality given to sources.
But that standard sets the LAT up as the exclusive judge of its own journalistic ethics. That sort of exclusive and secret self-policing is simply inconsistent with the rest of the Code — with its emphasis on “serv[ing] the public with thoroughness and honesty” and ensuring that “[p]rofessional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist’s credibility.” And the LAT has made no effort whatsoever to demonstrate why it was (or is) infeasible to identify its source.
Note, too, that the object — the tape — can’t be owed any obligations. The only constriction upon the LAT can come from a promise of confidentiality the LAT made to a source. Where is the logical connection between keeping the source’s name secret and keeping the contents of the tape secret? If there is such a connection, the LAT hasn’t claimed it. And the LAT itself claims to have already published a textual description of all of the tape’s contents that are of public interest, so how has it not already broken its promise — in the same way it now contends releasing the tape would require it to break its promise?
The LAT surely owes the public and its fellow professional journalists enough information to test and evaluate the LAT’s claim that it has a valid basis to have made, and to continue to honor, its promise of confidentiality. Otherwise, there is an unacceptable systemic invitation to over-use confidential sources; the confidentiality is supposedly for the exclusive benefit of the source, but the cloak of secrecy can easily be misused by the sloppy or unethical reporter who simply wants to block any second-guessing of his own reporting.
In my own profession (law), we have a concept called “testing the privilege.” When, for example, an attorney resists turning over a document to the other side on grounds that it’s protected by attorney-client privilege, the attorney still has to provide enough information about the document to enable the other side to decide whether to “test the privilege” by demanding that a judge review the document “in camera.” Indeed, the litigants may end up generating a “privilege log” that lists all documents that each side has withheld. On that log will be such things as the author of the document, its addressees (including those cc’d), its date, the number of pages, its very general subject-matter, and the bases for the privilege(s) being asserted (attorney-client, work product, Fifth Amendment, etc.). The burden is on the proponent of secrecy to provide sufficient facts to justify the assertion of the privilege. If the judge agrees with the assertion of privilege, then the judge will sustain the objection and the secret is preserved. If the judge disagrees with the assertion of privilege, though, then he gives the document to the other side and it typically becomes part of the public record.
Nothing quite so formal exists for testing journalists’ assertion of their obligation to keep confidentiality promises, but the process from the legal system certainly shows the kind of information that journalists could provide to allow the public to assess the bona fides of the secrecy cloak.
I’d be very surprised if there are not academic journalists who’ve written and published on this very subject (i.e., the dangers of overusing and misusing promises of confidentiality to sources).
Again, this line of argument won’t COMPEL the LAT to reconsider, but it may well — and damn well should — embarrass it, if there’s anyone left there with the capacity to be embarrassed.
This is no different than Time magazine having the photos of young Barry at “The Cooler” student lounge in California – smoking something and wearing a straw hat – taken many years ago and hidden. Those photos remained out of sight until the election was over.
Remember the Abraham Zapruder film of JFK’s assassination? An individual sold it to Time and they finally bowed to pressure and made a copy available to the Warren Commission.
Somewhere along the way the LA TImes crossed over from journalism to advocacy for the present administration.
the LA TImes crossed over from journalism to advocacy for the present administration
With a little added accuracy, this might read:
Since its inception, the LA Times forsook journalism to advocate for every Leftist/anti-US/socialist/statist/ Marxist/communist administration.
As another posted above, the high bidder at the asset auction has the best chance of securing the tape; should it still exist at that time. Probably the most valuable asset for sale, I mean their domain name won’t be worth the $9 cost of renewal even as a dot-org.
And Comrades, by that time we’ll all be ruinated.
Another twist on the ethics-based challenge is to argue that the LAT has become, in effect, a part of the story by withholding the tape. Because of that, it’s afflicted with a disabling conflict of interest as it attempts to reconsider the propriety of continuing to honor its promise of confidentiality. Because of the conflict, it ought to solicit, from a distinguished expert on professional journalistic ethics, the proverbial “second opinion” on the specific question of the LAT’s continuation of the cover-up.
If said expert, after viewing the tape and learning all the secret bases upon which the LAT supposedly gave its promise of confidentiality, agrees with the LAT, then at least the LAT would no longer be guilty of setting itself up as the exclusive judge of its own ethics. If, on the other hand, the expert disagrees, then that ought to be a clear signal to the LAT’s top management — CEO and Board level — that the paper has, once again, gone culpably astray and should make immediate amends to the public.
I hate like hell to come to the aid of the LAT and I know I’ll get flamed for it, but I believe they are acting properly. Until the source releases the Times from their promise, they are professionally obliged and honour-bound to keep it.
And from a purely pragmatic point of view, they would never receive any confidential information from anybody ever again if they welshed on this deal. No newspaper can survive without background information.
You are correct – EXCEPT! Place the situation in its proper context. Now, when Obama has turned on Israel, the matter takes on a deeper meaning. Do you sit by and allow people to flounder without sufficient information to make an election decision in 2012. Think of it this matter in the context of informing sexual partners that someone has had sex with them knowing full well that he had a communicable disease that will kill them. How does that promise from LAT hold up to the lives of the Jews that Mr. Obama’s policy will cost?
Another (very possibly half-baked) idea: Although (unfortunately for this purpose) the Tribune Co. is not publicly traded, it may still have corporate policies and internal enforcement mechanisms that are matters of public knowledge. Depending on how they’re written, they may permit non-employees to lodge complaints — like the sort of ethical complaints I’ve outlined in the comments above. (Alternatively, look for a sympathetic Tribune Co. current or ex-employee who’s got a fractional ownership interest and is effectively a shareholder; complain through him/her to the Board.) You basically are looking for ways that don’t involve anyone taking a trip to the courthouse, but that will promote this problem the a pay-grade that’s higher than whoever is now leading the stonewalling inside the LAT.
Beldar, as I pointed out above, Tribune Co is in BK. This tape is an asset of the Tribune Co. How much of an offer would require the judge to consider selling it?
Kevin, that’s an excellent point. I don’t know much about the Tribune Co.’s on-going bankruptcy, but I assume it’s a typical Chapter 11 in which the debtors are still in possession — that is, the pre-bankruptcy board is probably still calling the shots on all day-to-day management of the business, but does so subject to bankruptcy court supervision. The bankruptcy judge isn’t going to grant relief to a non-creditor of the estate, and isn’t going to start second-guessing the business judgments of the board on journalistic matters unless they’ve risen to truly huge proportions (e.g., such that they threaten to affect the continued viability of the reorganization). As far as making an offer to buy to tape, unless it involved so much money that it reached the threshold of materiality to the reorganization as a whole, the bankruptcy judge is probably not going to get involved; indeed, he might cut considerable slack to the Board in their purported exercise of their journalistic principles and ethics, unless and until there’s a showing of self-dealing or fraud or something else which would disqualify the current board.
I can’t think of any other angles, in other words, that might be available because the Tribune Co. is in bankruptcy. But then again, although I’ve litigated several fairly big cases in bankruptcy court, I’m not a specialist in that area of the law, and I don’t know the details of the Tribune Co.’s specific proceedings. So someone with more knowledge than I have might indeed be able to spot some useful angles that I haven’t.
Beldar,
I think your analysis is accurate if the bankrupcy is a re-organization. What are the chances of that? No conservative group would invest in a restart and the Left has run out of our money to subsidize it. Albeit, they’ll try.
From my experience, back in 2000 I was involved with a company that went under. It owned (actually you rent them) a domain name that was a one-word dot-com, like trade-dot-com only better. I stopped bidding at $57K, when the other bidder said they’d bid up to $250K, which I deemed risky cause the dotcomedy was about to fold. Today, that domain is worth millions. Just the domain name, no underlying business necessary.
As I tried to convey earlier, in a bankruptcy where the “vultures are invited to pick over the bones” of physical, IP, “good will” assets (snicker), then the tape could automatically reach the materiality level. And, one would probably be bidding against G. Soros & Co. Or, Rabbis for Obama, dba Citizens for Truth.
It might be interesting to try anyway, if only to raise the issue to public notice and/or embarrass the Times. Or Obama.
And yet another idea: The supposed “reporter’s privilege” and related obligation to honor promises of confidentiality exist for the benefit of the source, not the press. The source can knowingly waive the privilege, after which the press can no longer be claiming to be acting as the source’s agent or obligee in maintaining secrecy. This came up, IIRC, as part of the basis for the jailing of the NYT’s Judith Miller, who (stupidly in my opinion) refused to acknowledge the waivers signed by her confidential sources. So pressure the LAT to disclose whether it has recently confirmed with its source whether he/she WANTS to continue to hold the LAT to its promise of confidentiality. If it can’t confirm to the public that it’s gotten that confirmation privately, something’s wrong.
Google reminds me that I also blogged about this issue before the 2008 election, prompted by my disagreement with a WaPo editorial defending the LAT. As part of that post, I wrote:
Back in 1999 and 2000 the Times had a big scandal over blending news and advocacy when they ran (IIRC) an entire section of one edition devoted to the opening of the Staples Center. As I racall, ultimately a few heads were rolling in the basket under the guillotine by the time that was settled. Anything we can do to point out the similarities to that incident might put pressure on the editors.
I just worry that they’ll smile and say “What tape? Oh, we wiped that long ago — there wasn’t anything significant on it, trust us. Nothing to see here, move along.”
Get Glenn Beck to serve it up, for what it’s worth. We were misled during the campaign! Who knew? When the Administration airs its next manufactured grievance against Netanyahu, or debuts its own rumored road map for peace, you’d have a legitimate, timely, issue which would, at least — and probably at best — be just a little harder to spin as just another disgruntled “birther” assault.
My advice to you, however, is not to let your “obsession” with the video blind you to something far more “important and newsworthy.”
The fact that folks are left to imagine what might have been said at the Khalidi dinner is more feature than bug, if you consider the possibility that Wallsten has, indeed, already described the most potentially controversial contents of the video. This whole affair, IMO, is just one more emblematic stop along the way in a much larger saga — one which ultimately transcends the question of where Obama’s putatively hidden sympathies lie in this particular instance. Anyone who reads the news can suss that out.
The truly epic story in the offing will lay bare the phenomenally successful ways and means by which the Obama slate was wiped almost completely clean. Who disappeared his paper trail in the Illinois legislature? Who persuaded those holding records which could not be expunged to secure them under lock and key? Where are all the usual disaffected, anonymous sources who routinely step up to the mike? There are plenty of ways the Khalidi “whistleblower” could conceivably be identified if the LA Times video were released; we should be asking about the consequences of exposure he fears.
The scandal here is custom made for BigGovernment and BigJournalism combined. Unless Deep Throat 2.0 emerges from the shadows, no single investigative reporter, nor any loose affiliation of bloggers, will ever be able to walk Obama back through the Chicago labyrinth. It will take dedicating boots to the ground, finding strings to pull in lieu of issuing subpoenas, supplying resources and protection from organized intimidation. Everything Breitbart has brought to light, thus far, is small potatoes in comparison to the Obama backstory that no one else seems willing or able to pursue.
Steve Diamond and Stanley Kurtz, or Ryan Lizza and Jack Cashill have done yeoman’s work on pieces of the puzzle. John Kass surely knows a lot more about Chicago than the Trib will print. Voices in the wilderness, alas! What’s needed is a thick skinned, indefatigable, and hopefully incorruptible, promoter who can field folks to fill in the mountain of blanks, put the big picture package together and bang the drum loudly and long enough to get some substantive traction. I have no doubt that the Obama slate grows even blanker as we speak. The President has far more tools available to him than the candidate who misled us ever did. He’s also got a lot more to protect.
“The truly epic story in the offing will lay bare the phenomenally successful ways and means by which the Obama slate was wiped almost completely clean…..”
Indeed. This is really quite remarkable. Nothing like it in the 40 yrs I’ve been following politics. It leads you to suspect that somewhere down inside there is a very, very BIG story.
JM Hanes,
And so the erasures proceed. The other day on Foxnews, Megyn Kelly (sigh) was leading a discussion of the “birther” issue. She ended-up dissing the idea, because she had two newspaper announcements of the birth. Same day, different papers, according to the dates.
Not the original hardcopy editions though. She had just what were purported to be “scanned” images of these announcements that didn’t show the masthead, just the date (cause they wouldn’t scan the masthead into every entry in the database.) IOW, it was just a typed announcement.
It would be interesting to see if the fonts, type size, kerning, et al are identical to each other – do these typeset announcements match all the contemporary announcements? Is there a change log for the archives?
So, I emailed Megyn to point out the digital nature of her “evidence.” IE, the veracity of these scans could be in doubt; eg, they could have been inserted into the archive at anytime. And, I reminded her of Dan Rather’s forgery, and suggested they’d probably learned something from that operation.
A $5K reward for a printed copy of that day’s paper (either news source) is probably in order, cause it would really settle that issue, no? Or uncover the cesspool.
Buy it. Offer a million dollars. That’s the only way you are going to get it. If there was anything incriminating on it….someone somewhere has a backup copy even though the primary tape was probably wiped a long time ago. If it’s worth anything, then someone has a copy of it.
If it’s really good dirt, they will want more than a million.
Since the Chicago Tribune petitioned the courts to open
sealed divorce records of two of Obama’s US Senate
political opponents (primary and general election),
to Obama’s benefit, it is only fair play that the
tables be turned on the Tribune Company.
If the tape shows a threat to National Security, which it does, why should be able to get a firm to file a federal injunction with an order to release…
Perhaps the ear into which one needs to whisper sits astride the head of a certain Australian.
Just as a sidenote…think about this. For a politician on the right to have equal associations to Wright/Ayers/Khalidi they would have to have been buddies with David Duke, David Duke, and David Duke.
Or maybe gone the god hats fags church for 20 years.
Actually I cant really think of an equally scummy set of associations for a a conservative.
And that’s not factoring in Tony Rezko at all.
I’m sure that Khalidi has, at some point in the past, expressed views that could be interpreted as sedition against the US. something like the desire and advocation for Islamic supremacy over the US, the replacement of the US constitution with Sharia law, etc.
Here’s the plan –
1) openly accuse him – or for that matter, any one else that spoke at that event. Actually, accusing someone else that attended the same event might be a better idea….
2) Wait for him to sue you for defamation/slander
3) Demand the video tape in discovery
You might lose the lawsuit, but then, you might get your hands on the tape. If the tape is heavily edited, people will reach their own conclusions as to the why of it.
Trust me, their established pattern of engaging in “lawfare” practically ensures that they will come after you.
Let them chase you until you catch them!
What a devious mind I have!
Maybe someone above has already made this audacious suggestion, but someone should just steal the damned tape and air it.
Don,
Unlike ClimateGate, there are no patriots inside the LAT who’d want to out their employer.
Wait a minute Don, you may be on to something. Roger needs to get in touch with our patriot-pimp ACORN buster. He’s the guy for the job…seriously.
All this speculation about what’s on the damn tape.
If it were actually aired, would it be any worse than what The One has already done or will shortly do to demonstrate his utter hatred of Israel?
And more importantly, would American Jews be any less inclined to support him?
I’m sorry, but the people who care never voted for him to begin with and the people who should care don’t.
The only thing that will get through to these people will be an Iranian mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv and then it be too late.
Give it to Beck to look into.
Good grief, I watched his program today…sad what is going on in our country. It’s depressing and yet makes me fighting mad!!!! Monday’s show will be interesting.
He is one of the “only” public personalities willing to tackle this stuff.
I believe this tape is going to “disappear” before we see or hear it..
Stay mad till November then let the Conservative votes reign don from the heavens. In November, there will be a sunami of Democrat Marxist being voted out of office. Hang in there. There is a lot of undoing to do, after November 2010.
“Never Forget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
That Obama’s Father was a Communist.
Obama’s Mother was a Marxist!
His Grandparents turned him over to a Poet to Mentor Obama and the Poet was Communist.
Why are we so surprised that we have a radical in the Whitehouse? We got what we voted for.
We were so concerned that it was time to vote in a Minority that the “facts did not matter”.
Vote for any race, gender, religion, but make sure his or her heart is pure. Shame on us.
The tape is being held as a down payment on a future government bailout/buyout. You’ll never be able to get the Times to release this.
Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally, someone solved the mystery!
Dear Dr. Bones,
I should not want to dispute ifdly about tastes, but let the record show that I think the birthers make for much better yaleodrama (Pat. Pend.) than this latest … stuff from His Freelordship.
Healthy days.
Dear Jim:
Truthers to the Left of me
Birthers to the Right
I’ll stand with the birthers tyvm.
If Mr. Wallsten works for the Wall Street Journal then it will now be much harder to get the information. They are owned by News Corp, with substantial Middle Eastern investment. There is no way they will allow the Wall Street Journal to run a piece that sheds Obama in the wrong light when it comes to the Middle Eastern conflict.
Turn it over to Beck to uncover..
I watched his show today, it made me angry and concerned for my country. Monday will be a good show…
So, it is a sad turn of events when there is one station, and a couple of commentators that will tell us the truth and back it up with facts to check ourselves…
The tape will never see the light of day…same as any other tape of Obama…
Me too, Anne (my daughter’s middle name btw).
I have to admit, his fear is late in the game.
We’ve been freakin’ out for a while here in ‘reality’ world!
From the little bit of the LA Times article quoted by Simon, it is apparent the Times lied about what went on that night. “It was a celebration of Palestinian culture . . .,” stated the Times. But there was not a mention of any explosions or young men or women blowing themselves up for the imposter allah. How can there be a “celebration of Palestinian ‘culture’” without the mention of its only true talent?
You guys have it all wrong. Go to the source, the arab guy who evidently recorded it. Unless he is independently wealthy, money talks. One could pro rate the transaction. 10, 000 dollars for a rough transaction, a proffer of truth. Then pay to view it(maybe another ten thousand dollars. Then, if it is worth it, pay to put it on you tube. Bypass the politburo in LA. Even if the arab videographer would not want to harm Obama, for the right price….
Roger, if you create a fund for this revelation, I would be interested. I doubt Obama said or did anything wrong. He is a true political animal, talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think the LA Times was hyper-vigilent about the entire Obama is a closet Muslim theme in ’08. They, in their PC mind set, would not allow this tape to harm Obama by implication.
If you doubt my thesis, ask this question: Why would a Palestinian videographer(who reportedly is behind some sort of vilification publication against Israel) give up his tape to the LA Times???????? This question begs answering. If Obama said/did something that might be viewed as anti-Israel/anti-semetic, why, on earth, would some pro-Palestinian videographer wish to harm ‘the one?’
99. David Oberlander – Money is the answer. There has to be another copy, and every man has his price.
$eriou$ly!
I’m willing to release my nude photos for the cause!
(LMFAO)
Too many comments to read all the way through, so sorry if I’m repeating, but: “The Los Angeles Times did not publish the videotape because it was provided to us by a confidential source who did so on the condition that we not release it. The Times keeps its promises to sources.”
Who the hell gives information to a newspaper expecting them not to release it?
If Jews were Blacks the L.A. Slimes would cease to exist.
But no, we’re lemmings…and unless we stand up and start fighting back against anti-Semites like Obama and anti-Semitism out of the Democratic Party, we deserve what we get.
Demagogue Lawyer Leo Terrill almost started a Race Riot when four Blacks in Inglewood, CA were arrested for troublemaking; NOT a single Jewish Lawyer or Rabbi denounced the murder of Irv Rubin. But they (78 percent of train boarders) knew how to vote in a gutless, lying, chimp.
You’re assuming the tape still exists. I would be stunned if the LA Times didn’t erase and then shred it and burn it shortly after the election.
strange I too remember this whole brooha when it first surfaced and how the LA Times buried it, and I have never forgotten this. I have often given it a fair bit of thought, wondering what is on the videotape that the LA Times is so desperate to hide, and if it will ever become available. I also noticed how even the anti-Obama and pro-Israel conservatives totally forgot about this.
It’s so ridiculous that this tape was provided to the LA Times in the first place, since the anti-Israel Obama worshippers at the Times would never release a tape as explosive as this one probably is. So why was it provided to the Times in the first place? Obtuseness, naivite, I can think of a third reason but this gets into complex psychological dynamics of the source, and I just can’t be bothered…
My point is that in this day and age, the tape could simply have been uploaded onto a server and thus directly onto the internet, or provided to a source that were not a craven leftwing Obamabot worshipper and could be trusted to release it. The fact that the tape was provided to the LA Times instead is kind of like having something dirty on a Hollywood celebrity and then giving the incriminating tape to that celebrity’s sycophantic younger brother who hero worships his celebrity sibling, for safekeeping and/or exposure. Did this source make a copy of the tape, wouldn’t you?
The problem with ‘Political Correctness’ is that you have to have absolute faith in lies and absolute adherence to burying truths to make it so.
The left hand proclaims ‘transparency’ whilst hijacking the very ‘idea’ of ‘transparency’.
The Left is very good at hijacking ‘meanings’ of ‘words (just words)’.
When every criticism of the first ‘mulatto’ president is quickly deemed ‘racists’, well, “Houston, we have a problem.”
…as much as the left hijacks the language and perverts it to control debate and appearances, the right does nothing but fall over itself trying to fit in with the lefts perverted language.
..to this I say fire all those RINOs who lack the discipline and honesty required to govern fairly.
The ‘Rinos’ and the ‘Dinos’ have created a ‘one-party’ system in essence. :\
There is no agreement with any source. It’s just a convenient excuse. The head honchos at LAT is just playing the same game that made them head honchos in the first place. Ask yourself this question: What gives them more power – releasing the tape or not releasing the tape?
Was there a teleprompter at the party? If not, I have trouble imagining the O doing a grand peroration on the ME before the master himself. The man, after all, bows. Boring idea, i know, but perhaps the embarassment on the tape is not what he says but what he does – e.g. acts loutish, gets drunk, smokes like a chimney, or worse sniff sniff. Or maybe he jokes with Ayers about swapping wives – you know the possibilities one can imagine are pretty endless.
So Roger, being a great screenwriter what you should do is write and produce a film – 101 scenes at an “Occidentalist” (Spengler’s sociopathic anthropologist) party. Then, what is really on the tape won’t matter so much as what we have come to expect…
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I saw a debate on CNBC , I think, with Khalidi, among others regarding US relations with Israel. If I were a Jew or an Israeli I would be very disturbed that Obama calls him a friend and seems unwilling to acknowledge it.
Jews, American Jews specifically, have pulled the “wool” over their own eyes…if you don’t recognize it..it doesn’t happen to them..
A destructive attitude. An attitude of not caring for who you are.
The logical first step would be to track down the guest list from the dinner party and begin interviewing the other attendees. Not only might their memories be useful, one of them might recall some other person either tape-recording or filming the speakers besides the fellow who gave his tape to the LA Times.
I think step two would be to draw up a list of all the small, activist-type newspapers operating at that time in the area. It’s likely that they would have covered this event and perhaps even reprinted speeches. Ditto for a search of blogs.
I have no opinion of what Obama did or did not say at this gathering, but if you want to find out that’s how I’d start. Work the phones and the local tabloid morgues.
Since I think this tape is long gone or now blank Lynne’s suggestion is probably the only avenue left to find out what was said. Problem is while they might know what Obama’s remarks were they are also probably not going to share them with someone who is not favorable to the Ummah or favorable to Israel. Then again since the election is over who knows? What we need to find is the communications between supporters of the Palestinians or even, as has been mentioned, blogs that might shed light on this dinner. I think the whole point of the tape was to get the information out that Obama would be a staunch supporter of the Palestinian cause and a harsh critic of Israel without saying so in such stark terms. That message is now apparent in everything he does so finding out what’s on the tape may be more an exercise in historical background than anything else.
Find someone else who attended the dinner. Perhaps another person videotaped O’s comments or took notes.
What about Obama’s supposed tape as a young senator about white reparations? Where do we find it? supposedly it is “all over the internet”..well, not my internet… an address please..
No, but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9_nZJfk1lI&feature=related
Mr. Simon, I have not read the comments here though I trust many were helpful and perhaps this has already been suggested but is it not posible to get a list of all those in attendance at the party? An event planner, an attendee who could help in putting a list of names together and from there contacting those that were present to gleen their recollections as to the statements and events that transpired particularly by the then Senator. No doubt many would be evasive but you may find consistant comments by many who attended and that may provide you what you are looking for.Good luck.
This is quite sensible, and the slim but still palpable possibility that it might yield results, along with the sad likelihood it won’t, accounts for the rare combination of sincerity and irony in your sign off, “Good Luck.”
As a “Plan B” then, I suggest putting together a tape purporting to be genuine, with a biting script, gifted cast and crew, and no-holds-barred, over-the -top production and direction, with terrorists and assorted slime balls aplenty, and Obama, naturally, the sleaziest of all.
In other words, a tape so lowdown and dirty that it’ll force them to release the true tape in all its own banal, unedited, real-life depravlity (why else would they hide it?) to counter the stunning impact of the fake one.
“After Khalidi received this Columbia appointment in 2003, a farewell dinner party was held in his honor in Chicago.”
What was the exact date of this dinner party?
What was the exact venue?
The October/November Surprise Part Three
Few presidents have found themselves in such a massive pickle barely fifteen months into their first terms as President Barack Hussein Obama.
Beset on all sides by Tea Partiers on the right and gays on the left, with more negative news dribbling out just today that surprise, surprise, Obamacare will cost more than health care did in the past, with smatterings of war protestors complaining that we’re still fighting in the Middle East, with Democrats in Congress bailing out, with a prime constituency, the Jewish vote, increasingly discontent over U.S.-Israeli relations, the president should be stressed over the November elections and his own fading hopes for a second term.
Yet, he shows no signs of worry or concern. Now, why is that?
Could it be because of his well-known coolness that he’s not sweating his own and his party’s future? Or, could it be that Obama feels firmly ensconced in the catbird seat, knowing he has an ace up his sleeve that he can and will throw down when the time is opportune and he has no other cards left? . . .
(Read more at http://www.genalalor.com/blog1/?p=1646)
A legal defense fund that readers and others can donate to buy the lawyers and get the tapes released.
Then under the Freedom of Information act the tapes would be evidence .
I am not a lawyer but it is a method.
In comment 14, sharmajee linked to a site that had a guest list of the Khalidi dinner. The link didn’t work, because of an extra slash at the end. However, this one does:
http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/10/khalidi-tape-putting-bits-and-pieces.html
Verified Information
Location:
Burbank Manor, 6312 W 79th St., Burbank, Illinois
Time:
Friday, August 1, 2003
6pm – Reception
7pm – Dinner and Reception
Those who attended:
1. AAAN (Arab American Action Network)
2. Not In My Name
3. Ali Abunimah (a Palestinian rights activist in Chicago who helps run Electronic Intifada, who met Obama in 2000)
4. Bernadine Dorhn and Bill Ayers
5. Barack Obama
6. Mayor of Chicago Richard Daley
7. Rashid Khalidi
8. Mona Khalidi
9. Gihad Ali, a Palestinian spoken word poet
10. NPR Worldview host Jerome McDonnell (not McDonald as written in the e-mail)
11. Camilia Odeh (director of SWYC Southwest Youth Collaborative)
12. Sanabel debka troupe (traditional Palestinian dance group)
13. Hatem Abudayyeh
14. Others – Up to 50 to 500 guests
(See more, at that link.)
Back to the original intent for comments, perhaps an incentive? What does the LAT need most? … subscriptions.
Perhaps there could be an organized effort to promote subscriptions on the part of some pivotal websites in return for the tape’s release?
In any case, about Barry Soetoro … and the CIA-compromised ‘mainstream media’ such as CNN and that shill, Anderson Cooper, and, oh, not to be left out, that blatantly reverse-racist, commie org, ‘Southern Poverty Law Center’ and its Patriot “Hit List” … and lest we forget … about the neo-cons’ False-Flag demonic orgy-fests … there’s this: http://presidentobamaassassinationplotexpose.blogspot.com/2010/04/president-obama-assassination-plot.html
Don’t bother trying to get the LA Times to do it. Focus on something else. There’s no warranty for electing presidents. We’re stuck with Obama. Anything that gets revealed will mean nothing during the next election since, after a full term, people care about results far more than pre-presidential stuff.
Here is my idea to get LAT to release the tape.
Simply have then receive a death threat from some islamic terrorist for not releasing the tape. Since the liberal press is so concerned about hurting the feelings of muslims they will cave in and release the tape.
There is only one way to deal with a situation like this and it is called “extraordinary recovery”. In other words, you steal it. You get someone inside that can describe its location and its security then you find an independent “operator” to make the actionable recovery.
Isn’t this the way the left and their drivers handle Palin’s emails and other bits of information. There is no such concept of privacy when it comes to journalism or their ethics.
One would think there’s a copy somewhere. Offer a couple of million dollars for it and it may turn up. Or if that fails, then, hire some actors and writers, and recreate the speech quasi modo ‘Hitler in the Bunker’ movies.
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Just get the IRS involved.
C’mon and think about it. I’d bet there’s all kinds of opportunity to make a case to the IRS about some juicy sums of money and arrangements in that roomful of political haymakers.
Hit the LAT where they hurt. Take out billboard ads in the LA area calling them out on it. Why should their subscribers pay Obama partisans when they can read the HuffPo for free?
How about a “Free the Obama/Khalidi Tape Day”? Everyone who has a blog or a Facebook account or Twitter account could post something that day and send it to people…. At least it would be tougher for others to be clueless about it.
If someone has already suggested this, my apologies! I didn’t read through all the other comments
If a trial witness lied under oath, then most people would pretty much assume that person was untrustworthy and simply discount anything else they said.
This overanalyzation of Obama’s words and, more importantly, deeds is puzzling. I don’t see why Roger Smith should be obsessing over the obvious…Obama hates Israel, is a Neville Chamberlain class appeaser, has been attributed far more intelligence than he has, and is a serial liar. And, not the least, a communist…we now have essentially one party government under Obama.
The LA Times will not release that tape unless and until such time as the entire industrial legacy media complex comes to the conclusion that Obama duped them. Which will roughly occur when pigs fly. Let it go. He hates Israel, nuff said.
Step One: Find out who was there.
Step Two: Find out who is the most outspoken/obnoxious
Step Three: Begin interview sub-process over outspoken/obnoxi; record
a. Ask, do you feel Obama is still beholden to Isreal?
i. If denies, bring up arguably pro-Isreal points/mention Obama is a Christian.
ii. If agrees ask what Obama needs to do to win over Muslims
b. Ask what has Obama done to help mid-east peace process
c. Ask if appearing at dinner-in-question helped
d. Ask if you feel Obama is on their side
Step Four: Compile all interview
Step Five: Begin media campaign. Did this dinner help or hurt mid-east peace, i.e. cratre interest;p make this tape so darn important to everyone.
Step Six: Times will release it in order to answer everyones questions
The bankruptcy angle is worth exploring. Maybe a combination of boycott and offer of money would do it. Carrots and sticks.
Why would the person release it to the LA times and then as not to have it published? What is the point of giving the tape to the LA times? Extortion for the future?
WE STOPPED TAKING THE LA TIMES SEVEN(7) YEARS AGO AND HAVE NOT MISSED A BEAT. THE PAPER IS A RAG! GET ADVERETISERS AND READERS TO REACT ECONOMICALLY AND THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
After looking at the guest list (comment #118) it dawned on me that we’re barking up the wrong tree. The LA Dog Trainer will never give up the tape, assuming that they still have it. But there has to be another copy, in the possession of:
6. Mayor of Chicago Richard Daley
Can anyone imagine Daley not having a copy of it? After all, a tape like that is a f***ing valuable thing.
Hell, the way to bring down Obama’s presidency would be to get Daley pissed off at him. I’ll bet Daley has lots more dirt on Obama than just this tape.
I have no idea how to get them to release the tape. They have it, no one else does. It’s likely that it never will be seen. So what? Who cares? It’s ancient history. It will reveal nothing about Obama that everyone doesn’t know already. It would (many hope) provide nothing more than grist for the mill if it were seen, just one more page in the Ayers-Wright book of fiction. Nor does the matter tell us anything we don’t already know of the LA Times or main stream media. Their wagons have been closing into a tighter, smaller circle with each passing day. Other than for rhetorical purposes, no one cares about them any more either. Barring interference by politicians, they will either adapt or disappear to be replaced by a functional press. (They really will.)
What is important is what is happening, being done, actions taken. both Obama and the press are being dissed (implying contempt, it’s a better, more descriptive word than dismissed). The common denominator for both is the difference between their words and their deeds. No one any longer believes what either says. Response to the press is – has been – easy; we go elsewhere for our news: someone else wins, the Times loses. Here, alternatives are readily– immediately – available and they are being used. Response to the perversion of government by Obama and our various governments – local, state, and federal – is more difficult and the stakes are immensely greater. But it too is happening. Arizona’s immigration law, gubernatorial victories in New Jersey and Virginia, a senatorial victory in Massachusetts, school budget victories in New Jersey, genuine electoral confrontations from one side of the country to the other—these are all significant, critically important, tangible actions. These are where our attention should be focused.
By way of contrast, regardless of the out come or one’s position on the matter, factual resolution of the birth certificate issue is far more important for the country than seeing the Obama/Khalidi tapes. Here, the short and long term ramifications for the country are immense given our illegal immigration problem. What will the exposed tapes accomplish? They will confirm Obama’s support (at least) for a radical, anti-Israel academic, give lie to years and years of Obama’s subsequent posturing and statements, and embarrass (not really) the Times—or not. In Obama’s case, the former are widely suspected and confirmed by his actions, and in Khalidi’s case, apparently well known. The latter “or not” case? Were that so, we’d long ago have seen the tapes.
Many excellent comments and suggestions were posted in response to Roger’s request, but, with none to offer I posted none. However, I couldn’t help responding to Beldar’s response(s)—77 to 83, thanks for pointing that out—which he’s begun promoting in other places in the blogosphere. Appealing to ethical standards? That’s it? Please. Could anything be less meaningful in today’s world than citing adherence to some customized, self serving code of ethics designed to provide justification for the behavior of those who commissioned its writing? Lawyers and their ethics are behind every major catastrophe in our society, today. Senate Ethics Committee? House Ethics committee? How about the advice given church leaders three decades ago (and probably last week) regarding sexual predators? Enron? GM? TARP? The mayors, city councils, sheriffs, and police chiefs all across the country who directed law enforcement officials to ignore laws pertaining to illegal immigrants? And on, and on, and on. The list is too long to repeat.
Roger, thanks for reminding us of these tapes and pursuing their release; their exposure would be a good thing, though the high, as with the Rev. Wright matter, would be short lived and prove nothing we don’t already know. Meanwhile, keep not buying the Times; keep outing the frauds; vote out the bums, rascals, scoundrels, crooks, and ignorant; and ignore the lawyers.
Other than actually stealing the tape from the L.A. Times, most of the suggestions for applying pressure are unworkable. The tape may already have been destroyed, although probably not, since it’s such a valuable commodity to hold in reserve for unknown future contingencies. But even if it still exists, it would almost certainly be destroyed as soon as it appeared that there was a significant chance of it being outed.
So all of the ideas about buying the L.A. Times or pressuring advertisers or taking out full page ads or whatever are useless. Those actions would either be ineffective or else lead to the precipitous destruction of the tape.
People here need to understand that battles are sometimes lost, and that it’s necessary to accept that reality even if it doesn’t seem fair. Revealing this tape will not undo Obama’s election, and it will probably not materially impact his re-election chances (which are not good at the moment). (Same goes for Birthers who are obsessed with his birth certificate.) Concentrate instead on Obama’s policies, which are leading this country into a very obvious fiscal black hole.
First, let me stipulate that I am not a “nice” person. But I am a realist.
Second, in considering this matter, realism needs to take priority over illusion. There is no way that “pressure”, moral suasion, appeals to legal means or ethics, or open bribery/purchase will spring this tape.
Third, the reason for this is that the Democratic Party, their supporters in the media, their supporters in academe, in the labor movement, and those special interests who benefit from government largesse when the Left is in control; have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, law, ethics, or morals. They also, as we have seen, have the benefit of having those who would consider going up against them knowing that the above groups will use any means outside the Constitution, law, ethics, or morals to maintain control if they feel a vital interest is threatened; up to and including extreme prejudice. They are closer in world view to Vladimir Illych Ulyanov or Iosef Vissarionvich Djugashvili than to Thomas Jefferson. They are in a very real sense, not our countrymen and do not consider themselves to be bound by the same strictures as we. No illusions.
Any attempt to recover the tape by legal means, will be thwarted by illegal means. And since they control the legal system, anything they do will be done with blatant impunity. They will rub our faces in it.
In addition to dealing with the security organs of the state, anyone who acts publicly to retrieve the tapes will be at risk of becoming another “Theo Van Gogh” at the hands of “outraged” [which seems to be the normal state of many of them] Muslims. There is no legal or political downside to public threats of that type, or their actualization.
Fourth, it is highly likely that the tape has been destroyed already, however that is not certain. Obama and his people have egos that would make Ozymandias blush in shame, and sometimes they are dumber than several boxes of rocks.
Fifth, thus any attempt to recover the tape will, necessarily, have to be conducted by covert and extralegal means. There would have to be acceptance of the certainty of casualties. Given the failure of most to accept the true nature of what we are facing; that means that there will be no such attempt.
If such attempt were to be made the theoretical first step would have to be covert hacking into all aspects of their computer system and analysis of the contents to look for clues as to the fate and possible location of the tape. If a location is found, it will of course have to be thoroughly reconnoitered and analysed. If it is not found, leads as to which individual(s) might have knowledge of the matter that is not recorded would be a secondary goal. They would have to be persuaded to give up that information, without revealing that they have done so to their superiors/co-conspirators. That ain’t gonna happen, for several easily understood reasons noted above.
Following analysis of data collected from all sources, it would take either the successful implantation of a mole to a position with access to the tape, the suborning of someone with such access, or a military style strike to retrieve the tape; singly or in combination. I will let you calculate the time frame necessary, resources, and likelihood of success of any of those options.
Anything short of that will not work. It would take technical and material resources only available to either national governments or sufficiently large and specialized multi-national organizations.
Given that last, the only step that could possibly be taken now would be the most covert efforts to confirm or deny the continued existence of the tape, and its location; or the existence and locations of any copies or transcripts [doubtful at the LAT, possible elsewhere]. If it/they can be confirmed to have been destroyed, that settles the matter.
In any case, I rather suspect that any successful effort in this direction probably will not be originated on Pajamas Media. Organizing For America is watching us, and the original post broke the necessary operational security for any recovery effort.
Subotai Bahadur
Force LAT to release tape by starting a multi-sourced web-rumor that, in the tape, both the Times & Obama inadvertently insult and denigrate The Prophet. That’s really why they’re “afraid” to release it. Be sure this makes it to CAIR and Revolution Muslim first! (may be best to source rumor from Middle Eastern or Euro sites)
And/or, that he accidentally reveals that he doubts that Islamic nations will ever advance out of the cultural stone age, despite his obsequious pandering to them.
And/or, that he (despite his recent re-reversal) doesn’t think that Iranian nukes are anything to worry about.
With LAT so deeply concerned about offending delicate sensibilities of minority groups and wanting more than anything to support a positive POTUS “narrative”, they would stupidly fall all over themselves to disprove any of these rumors.
Maybe?
Here are my thoughts on how you might obtain the tape:
1. Find someone (such as Andrew Breitbart) who’s in a position to offer a substantial reward to anyone who submits a video that can be verified as authentic and unedited. Make sure the person who submits the tape is anonymous, even to you, in case All the President’s Men decide to sue you for libel, “find” an error on your tax return, “discover” illegal porn in your computer, or all of the above.
2. See if the original writer would be willing to share his copy … and feel free to inform him of Point #1.
3. Start a blogosphere campaign titled, “What’s the L.A. Times Hiding?” or something similar. See if you can engage conservative talk shows … and especially the Jewish (including Israeli) media. The Democrats’ biggest nightmare is for Jewish Americans to stop being such loyal lever pullers for the Donkey Party and wake up to the way Obama is selling out Israel.
Recreate the speech by cutting and pasting, sentences, phrases, and words, from his miilion other speeches. Recreate the audience that way too.
Mike Reed; That is a great suggestion. But why not try the flip side as well.
That the video shows Vera Baker there getting into a catfight with Michelle; and Larry Sinclair trying to break up the fight. And Barry declaring that he has emphaty with Rashid, as a recent immigrant born in a Islamic country, as they have similar personal background; and how he identifies with Ed Said when he saw TV reports of his throwing stones a t Israeli troops on the Lebanese border, as that reminds him of his Columbia/Ayers/Weather training.
The Gateway Pundit had an excellent article a few weeks ago on Obama’s time with the Chicago Law School. He wasn’t known to be very bright, the staff resented his laziness(spelling?), and it became obvious it was an appointment to enable Obama to advance politically. He used the platform to teach Alynski political power methods.
Obama, and a large number of career politicans are sociopaths. They know how to work the system where they come out on top no matter which way the thing goes.
In American, and indeed Corporate America, a huge threat to freedom:
American Government and Corporate organizational chart….
Sociopaths on top
Clueless in da middle
Losers on bottom
My question is simple – Who ever gave the tapes to the LA times becomes irrelevant-
If it was given to them- why? if they did not want them publicized?
What was the point in giving them just to be filed away- under- “Do not use”?
Someone please explain the logic in this-
As I remember it was said that Hillary Clinton is the one that gave the tape to the LA news.
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The shell games this force have been playing all these years are finally catching up with them. Blueface was correct in pointing out they were so disrespectful to our mayor and council. If they are so disrespectful to our mayor and council in a public forum, at a public meeting, on live television for the world to see, what would they do to a regular citizen they stop on the road with no video cameras rolling?We shudder to think of all the accusations of police brutality is true. The shootings of four north miami beach tax payers in the last few years. The ex chief Hernandez refusing any outside investigations into the last shootings that occurred. This police department is a law upon themselves that shows disrespect to our elected officials and residents alike. Distasteful and unbecoming.I thank the owner of this blog for having it.Like or Dislike: 0 0
What to do?
Buy more ammo.
solargate(s), fast and furios, Czars, Illegal recess appointments, the list goes on. Your tape is just another data point.
This November, all us sheeple will go vote. Win or lose, Obama will remain POTUS.
That is the decision point. Do Americans bow down and accept the loss of democracy, or do we exercise our 2nd amendment rights?
Lawsuit over some trivial issue
+ Friendly judge
+ Court order to present the tape during discovery
+ One of the lawyers letting a copy “leak”
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= I’ll bring the popcorn!
sadly, the only thing that will get the tape out, should it still exist (which I somewhat doubt) is to buy the paper outright.. Even then, there is a fair chance they’d destroy it (if they haven’t already) rather than let it get into the “wrong hands.” This is all assuming that it ever existed as a possession of the times at all, and wasn’t just watched over a cocktail at a bar one evening on someone’s iBook, or made up whole cloth. The press has rather a long history of manufacturing history when it suits them, as Durante could attest if he still lived. Or Dan Rather, for that matter. The paper itself would be rather a poor investment, and with a Sunday circulation of around a million papers, a somewhat expensive one.
or I guess, if Obama did something that the Times hated. If the press turned against him he’d be in trouble, since they are more or less his core demographic. If there was a case that the tape still existed, it would be because of the fear that Obama might do something evil and unforgivable- like move to the center a bit, so he can at least see the leftward fringe of his party.
I think that there is a very good chance that the LA Times and not Wallsten have that copy of the tape. It is clear that it is useless to talk to the LATimes. We can still try to get Wallsten to divulge what he saw on the tape in entirety however!
Wallsten no longer is an LATimes employee. This is good for the truth. Wallsten now works for the Wall St. Journal which is the least biased newspaper on Israel. This is even better. The editor in chief is Bret Stephens who is also not antiIsrael; he was editor at the Jerusalem Post before taking the chief position at the WSJ. This is really terrific – Wallsten is now employed at a much more ethical paper, where he would be encouraged to tell the truth about the entire tape he viewed, rather than be bullied into suppressing it.
Therefore, Mr. Simon, you need to get in touch with Bret Stephens about this issue and see whether Wallsten’s new employer could persuade him to reveal what he viewed on that tape – for the sake of truth and our country.
Nice article. The law field is an interesting one.
This is the same LA Times that published then Illinois Senatorial candidate Jack Ryan’s divorce papers to embarrass him out of the race and let Obama run almost unopposed against Alan Keyes, who had only a few weeksto prepare the campaign.