then you didn’t read it…

“prove anything at all”

why would i do something silly like trying to ‘prove’ something to you…

“I provided facts”

no… you didn’t… as reagan said of the socialists… ‘it’s not that they know nothing, it’s that they know so much which ain’t so’

“refuse to debate global warming with actual, knowledgable scientists”

i talk with climate scientists regularly… some on a personal level… i don’t ‘debate’… i just ask questions all the time… and i study loads… which is how i know you are talking crock…

Nor does some vague assertion about “90%+ with almost certainty, 95%+ highly probable” prove anything at all.

I provided facts. You’ve atttempted to evade them by lamely trying to switch the subject or counter with empty assertions. You’ve merely demonstrated that there is no substance to your arguments.

Small wonder that alarmist like yourself and Al Gore refuse to debate global warming with actual, knowledgable scientists. Hell, Al Gore is afraid to even be in the same congressional hearing room with someone like Christopher Monckton.

roger… so, ummm, what reading has james lewis been doing before writing his conspiracy theory rant… what science papers has he read?… which textbooks has he studied?… he hasn’t even checked his sources… i did his work… so is his rant a case of…

“If the buyers buy, who cares?”

for “selected” read 90%+ with almost certainty, 95%+ highly probable…

“31,000 American scientists”

for “scientists” read pop singers and pr people

“I find it amazing how progressives insist they are progressing, but in fact, they never really change.”

Exactly. There is absolutely nothing “new” — or “hopeful”, for that matter — in what Obama and the Democrats are pushing. Statism in all its forms — socialism, fascism, communism etc. — all were tried and failed globally and spectacularly in the 20th century. Millions were starved to death and millons more impoverished in countries all over the planet. Only a massive evasion of history permits these clowns to pretend this stuff can work or that it is something new and shiny.

Slight correction: Waxman relies on selected scientists, i.e. those willing to support Waxman’s agenda.

He ignores scientists such as the 31,000 American scientists who signed this anti-AGW petition here: http://www.oism.org/pproject/

He ignores scientists like MIT physicists Richard Lindzen and the hundreds of other scientists that participated in the Heartland Conference here: http://www.heartland.org/events/NewYork09/index.html

Waxman does exactly what the IPCC, Gore, Hansen and all the other warming alarmists do: they ignore and evade any evidence that contradicts their theory. The lie, distort, falsify, and exaggerate their claims then stall, obstruct and block efforts to replicate their results.

They ignore evidence such as the fact that satellite measurements of temperatures in the troposphere — which, according to global warming theory, should show the greatest heating — are right now at the same level they were in 1979 when the satellites went into operation.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

… true

Instead of liberals seeing it as their God given duty to lead the world’s savages into the light of European civilization, their new goal is to lead the poor and ignorant (a.k.a. anyone who doesn’t agree with them) into the enlightened world of socialism.

the horror of it…