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		<title>By: ate mely</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/07/13/desperate-new-york-times-exploits-palin-controversy/#comment-133399</link>
		<dc:creator>ate mely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next thing you read, NYT will publish a  Sarah Palin op-ed!</description>
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		<title>By: California Dreamer</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/07/13/desperate-new-york-times-exploits-palin-controversy/#comment-133106</link>
		<dc:creator>California Dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get an unhealthy pleasure watching the NYT circle the drain.

What&#039;s &quot;unhealthy about it&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get an unhealthy pleasure watching the NYT circle the drain.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s &#8220;unhealthy about it&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nan in Can, I&#039;ve noticed how many are never reviewed in the NYT book reviews. Is that what you meant ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nan in Can, I&#8217;ve noticed how many are never reviewed in the NYT book reviews. Is that what you meant ?</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad Marci (comment #19) brought up Tim Fey. It&#039;s too bad about Fey. For the rest of her career and life, Fey will never be able to escape Sarah Palin, and how she contributed to the journalistic wilding of Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad Marci (comment #19) brought up Tim Fey. It&#8217;s too bad about Fey. For the rest of her career and life, Fey will never be able to escape Sarah Palin, and how she contributed to the journalistic wilding of Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have significant reservations about what it would be like for her to govern.

Damn, Barry....how&#039;s that obama chump working for out for you? Did you have any reservations about someone LESS qualified than Sarah Palin prior to Nov.08??  

And, your condemning Palin supporters for being, uh...supportive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have significant reservations about what it would be like for her to govern.</p>
<p>Damn, Barry&#8230;.how&#8217;s that obama chump working for out for you? Did you have any reservations about someone LESS qualified than Sarah Palin prior to Nov.08??  </p>
<p>And, your condemning Palin supporters for being, uh&#8230;supportive?</p>
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		<title>By: Nan in Can</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan in Can</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really unrelated but has anyone ever noticed how many conservative/libertarian books make the NYT best seller list on a regular basis?  I guess liberals just don&#039;t read much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really unrelated but has anyone ever noticed how many conservative/libertarian books make the NYT best seller list on a regular basis?  I guess liberals just don&#8217;t read much?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Dauphin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Dauphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kynna,

Many on the left hate her because they can&#039;t stand her choices, and so she holds up a mirror to the notion of feminism being about choice. She has chosen differently from the northeast liberal intelligentsia. That makes them indignant, since she didn&#039;t make the choices they have decreed are the only worthy choices. Camille Paglia explains quite clearly why Palin is vilified. 

I do think the hero worship is partly a reaction to the attacks. Some of that is understandable. But to date she is no Reagan, a candidate who spent 2 terms as governor and had written and lectured on all of the policy matters of the day.  Yes, Reagan was belittled by the same liberal pseudo-intellectuals. But that does not make them equivalent in all other important respects, and it sounds as if many of her supporters want to lump them together..

It is not basic support of Palin that I&#039;m pointing to. Rather it is the over-the-top stuff about how brilliant her resignation was as strategy, and how she&#039;s out-thinking everyone, and she plays by different rules, etc. and the bad-mouthing of McCain.  It is the &quot;untouchable&quot; quality that too many of her supporters espouse. Criticize her, and you can be called a turncoat or whatnot. It has a similar feel as Ron Paul supporters. I appreciate her positions on taxes, defense policy, free speech, etc. I have significant reservations about what it would be like for her to govern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kynna,</p>
<p>Many on the left hate her because they can&#8217;t stand her choices, and so she holds up a mirror to the notion of feminism being about choice. She has chosen differently from the northeast liberal intelligentsia. That makes them indignant, since she didn&#8217;t make the choices they have decreed are the only worthy choices. Camille Paglia explains quite clearly why Palin is vilified. </p>
<p>I do think the hero worship is partly a reaction to the attacks. Some of that is understandable. But to date she is no Reagan, a candidate who spent 2 terms as governor and had written and lectured on all of the policy matters of the day.  Yes, Reagan was belittled by the same liberal pseudo-intellectuals. But that does not make them equivalent in all other important respects, and it sounds as if many of her supporters want to lump them together..</p>
<p>It is not basic support of Palin that I&#8217;m pointing to. Rather it is the over-the-top stuff about how brilliant her resignation was as strategy, and how she&#8217;s out-thinking everyone, and she plays by different rules, etc. and the bad-mouthing of McCain.  It is the &#8220;untouchable&#8221; quality that too many of her supporters espouse. Criticize her, and you can be called a turncoat or whatnot. It has a similar feel as Ron Paul supporters. I appreciate her positions on taxes, defense policy, free speech, etc. I have significant reservations about what it would be like for her to govern.</p>
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		<title>By: skipkent</title>
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		<dc:creator>skipkent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone slightly right of center who &#039;dropped Mcain&#039; for this good reason or that one, and then failed to carry through and vote AGAINST Obama is directly responsible for putting that man in office.

The ONLY way to vote against someone effectively is to vote FOR the opposing candidate most likely to win.  

In other words, if you didn&#039;t vote for Mcain, you voted for Obama.  If you&#039;re at all bothered with his &#039;performance&#039; and didn&#039;t vote FOR Mcain, you have yourself to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone slightly right of center who &#8216;dropped Mcain&#8217; for this good reason or that one, and then failed to carry through and vote AGAINST Obama is directly responsible for putting that man in office.</p>
<p>The ONLY way to vote against someone effectively is to vote FOR the opposing candidate most likely to win.  </p>
<p>In other words, if you didn&#8217;t vote for Mcain, you voted for Obama.  If you&#8217;re at all bothered with his &#8216;performance&#8217; and didn&#8217;t vote FOR Mcain, you have yourself to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: kynna</title>
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		<dc:creator>kynna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33. Barry Dauphin:  Don&#039;t you think the &#039;near worship&#039; is a reaction to the over-the-top vilification of Palin?  

I&#039;m ready and willing to throw her and any other candidate or personality under the bus if they are shown to be weak, socialistic, fascistic, sleazy, etc...  So far that hasn&#039;t happened with Palin.  If it ever does, I&#039;ll cut her loose.  Most on the right are like me in that sense.  Much more likely to demand more from our candidates than Democrats are.  

So far, except for among the ill informed, Palin passes the test of a pretty fair candidate for many of the voting public.  Would I like more from her as far as eloquence and ability to squash a bug like Couric is concerned?  Yes.  But as far as honesty and goals beneficial to the US -- she fits the bill at this time.  And that&#039;s better than most politicians out there.  Why that pisses the left off so much is a question they definitely don&#039;t want answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33. Barry Dauphin:  Don&#8217;t you think the &#8216;near worship&#8217; is a reaction to the over-the-top vilification of Palin?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m ready and willing to throw her and any other candidate or personality under the bus if they are shown to be weak, socialistic, fascistic, sleazy, etc&#8230;  So far that hasn&#8217;t happened with Palin.  If it ever does, I&#8217;ll cut her loose.  Most on the right are like me in that sense.  Much more likely to demand more from our candidates than Democrats are.  </p>
<p>So far, except for among the ill informed, Palin passes the test of a pretty fair candidate for many of the voting public.  Would I like more from her as far as eloquence and ability to squash a bug like Couric is concerned?  Yes.  But as far as honesty and goals beneficial to the US &#8212; she fits the bill at this time.  And that&#8217;s better than most politicians out there.  Why that pisses the left off so much is a question they definitely don&#8217;t want answered.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Dauphin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Dauphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a strong, negative, visceral reaction against campaign finance reform. I see it as a threat to the First Amendment and leaving room for far too much mischief making and as risking the suppression of political speech (wait until they try to regulate blogs). I think McCain had good intentions and was concerned about corruption. Campaign Finance Reform has not curtailed corruption.  It has increased regulation and the power of the state in an area we want the state to have the minimum amount of power tolerable.

Having said all that, I voted McCain for numerous reasons, especially considering the competition. I was afraid what is happening now (profligate spending, increasing the scope of government, etc.) is what would happen. Even with his flaws, McCain has many virtues and was the better candidate IMO. The operative word being &quot;better&quot;.

One of the things that bothers me about the Palin phenomenon isn&#039;t Sarah per se, but that too many of her supporters are picking up where Ron Paul supporters left off. The U.S. (or any place else) will not produce perfect candidates. These are all flawed people, who have big egos. The near worship of a political candidate is a sign of something negative in the culture IMHO. Hero worship got us into the current mess with this administration, as far, far too many Obama voters drank Kool-aid. Too many Obama voters didn&#039;t simply go to the polls picking the lesser of two evils or deciding on balance Obama was better. Rather they went into the voting booth like Stepford wives. Palin has strengths and weaknesses. Better that her supporters and detractors see both. Her supporters do her and her potential candidacy no favors by pretending that a bad performance in an interview was really a wonderful and subversive performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a strong, negative, visceral reaction against campaign finance reform. I see it as a threat to the First Amendment and leaving room for far too much mischief making and as risking the suppression of political speech (wait until they try to regulate blogs). I think McCain had good intentions and was concerned about corruption. Campaign Finance Reform has not curtailed corruption.  It has increased regulation and the power of the state in an area we want the state to have the minimum amount of power tolerable.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I voted McCain for numerous reasons, especially considering the competition. I was afraid what is happening now (profligate spending, increasing the scope of government, etc.) is what would happen. Even with his flaws, McCain has many virtues and was the better candidate IMO. The operative word being &#8220;better&#8221;.</p>
<p>One of the things that bothers me about the Palin phenomenon isn&#8217;t Sarah per se, but that too many of her supporters are picking up where Ron Paul supporters left off. The U.S. (or any place else) will not produce perfect candidates. These are all flawed people, who have big egos. The near worship of a political candidate is a sign of something negative in the culture IMHO. Hero worship got us into the current mess with this administration, as far, far too many Obama voters drank Kool-aid. Too many Obama voters didn&#8217;t simply go to the polls picking the lesser of two evils or deciding on balance Obama was better. Rather they went into the voting booth like Stepford wives. Palin has strengths and weaknesses. Better that her supporters and detractors see both. Her supporters do her and her potential candidacy no favors by pretending that a bad performance in an interview was really a wonderful and subversive performance.</p>
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