Comments on: Help the people of Iran – the reactionary Obama won’t http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/ The blog of the mystery writer, screenwriter and CEO of Pajamas Media Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:23:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: glenn http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130716 glenn Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:53:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130716 Operative here is the stated goal of the Muslim world to destroy Israel. Roger, do you have any first hand knowledge that your friends in Iran feel differently? Operative here is the stated goal of the Muslim world to destroy Israel. Roger, do you have any first hand knowledge that your friends in Iran feel differently?

]]> By: Timothy http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130677 Timothy Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:41:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130677 Obama has a squadron of special C-130's that could fly along the Iran borders broadcasting the images and television reoports. He need give the word. EC-130E Commando Solo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC-130E Obama has a squadron of special C-130′s that could fly along the Iran borders broadcasting the images and television reoports. He need give the word.

EC-130E Commando Solo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC-130E

]]> By: Deb http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130665 Deb Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:29:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130665 It's not like the opposition in Iran isn't also under the Mullahs(Kahmeni's)rule. All the parties running wanted to continue w/ their covert nuclear weapons program...so it's all the same give or take a bit of reform on the domestic side. In other words, even if the opposition won, it would be a fraudulant election since it's all controled by the top ruling Mullah's & democracy doesn't exist in Iran period. It’s not like the opposition in Iran isn’t also under the Mullahs(Kahmeni’s)rule. All the parties running wanted to continue w/ their covert nuclear weapons program…so it’s all the same give or take a bit of reform on the domestic side. In other words, even if the opposition won, it would be a fraudulant election since it’s all controled by the top ruling Mullah’s & democracy doesn’t exist in Iran period.

]]> By: WFB http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130662 WFB Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:50:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130662 I hope Netanyahu is getting some information. Even if this is not the time to act from without, it may be the time to move from within. I hope Netanyahu is getting some information. Even if this is not the time to act from without, it may be the time to move from within.

]]> By: Roger L Simon http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130658 Roger L Simon Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:12:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130658 Horace Wells - whoever you are - how dare you? As a matter of fact, I have many Iranians friends and have worked with the IRanian Freedom movement for over five years. I have appeared on free Iranian television broadcasting from California to Tehran and interviewed such brave students as Manoucher Mammoudi who was tortured in Evin Prison. His brother was killed there. Go ahead and insult me, Horace Wells. I don't know who you are or what you do. But you sure sound like a schmuck. Horace Wells – whoever you are – how dare you? As a matter of fact, I have many Iranians friends and have worked with the IRanian Freedom movement for over five years. I have appeared on free Iranian television broadcasting from California to Tehran and interviewed such brave students as Manoucher Mammoudi who was tortured in Evin Prison. His brother was killed there. Go ahead and insult me, Horace Wells. I don’t know who you are or what you do. But you sure sound like a schmuck.

]]> By: Horace Wells http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130656 Horace Wells Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:04:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130656 So who here is willing to sign up, ship out and fight in Persia? So who here is willing to sign up, ship out and fight in Persia?

]]> By: Horace Wells http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130655 Horace Wells Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:01:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130655 More posturing from a keyboard warrior: 1) You could really care less about the Iranian people except as a tool to depose the mullahs. This sound like the people who supported the war in Iraq expecting Arab gratuitude and a pat on the back as uber liberators when the war was based on lies & fear and most of the pro war people hated Muslims and Arabs 2) So short of war, what would you do? Where is your game plan? Should we stop talking to Iran less we might "appease" them? It seems to be something of some Law of Physics here that the mullahs don't represent the Iranian people; who are all pro western, love Bush and Israel too. Where is your empirical proof for that? Personally, I belive that bad regimes most of the time reflect it's citizens. 3) Would you still be willing if your personal risks and sacrifices would be heavy? I doubt it! You are all macho Hollywood tough talk and no action, another John Wayne draft dodging patriot. Your idea of sacrifice is making a donation to the USO. More posturing from a keyboard warrior:

1) You could really care less about the Iranian people except as a tool to depose the mullahs. This sound like the people who supported the war in Iraq expecting Arab gratuitude and a pat on the back as uber liberators when the war was based on lies & fear and most of the pro war people hated Muslims and Arabs

2) So short of war, what would you do? Where is your game plan? Should we stop talking to Iran less we might “appease” them? It seems to be something of some Law of Physics here that the mullahs don’t represent the Iranian people; who are all pro western, love Bush and Israel too. Where is your empirical proof for that? Personally, I belive that bad regimes most of the time reflect it’s citizens.

3) Would you still be willing if your personal risks and sacrifices would be heavy? I doubt it! You are all macho Hollywood tough talk and no action, another John Wayne draft dodging patriot. Your idea of sacrifice is making a donation to the USO.

]]> By: Brian http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130654 Brian Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:59:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130654 Excellant.Mullahs will lose all credibility now.Democracy or crackdown?And if they do crackdown what next? Excellant.Mullahs will lose all credibility now.Democracy or crackdown?And if they do crackdown what next?

]]> By: Neo http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130652 Neo Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:43:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130652 <i><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/13/official-obama-administration-skeptical-irans-election-results/" rel="nofollow">The dominant view</a> among Obama administration officials is that the regime will look so bad as a result of whipping up Iranian hopes for democracy and then squelching them that the regime may feel compelled to show some conciliatory response to Obama’s gestures of engagement.</i> ... sounds like <b>Obama in Wonderland</b> and Ahmadinnerjacket is the rabbit. The dominant view among Obama administration officials is that the regime will look so bad as a result of whipping up Iranian hopes for democracy and then squelching them that the regime may feel compelled to show some conciliatory response to Obama’s gestures of engagement.

… sounds like Obama in Wonderland and Ahmadinnerjacket is the rabbit.

]]> By: Dale Weeks http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/06/13/help-the-people-of-iran-the-reactionary-obama-wont/#comment-130644 Dale Weeks Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:56:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/?p=5549#comment-130644 I think that Roger makes a very good point; Obama has made it clear from the beginning that he would negotiate "without preconditions". That indicates to me that he won't take a stand for democracy, even to the point of using the power of his bully pulpit to exert pressure on the Mad Mullahs and the Thug-in-Cheif Ahmadinejad. Obama's decision to go to the Middle East and promote his Muslim heritage, his middle name, and give Islam credit for every advance in civilization but the space program made him look weak and tentative. In turn, the Mullahs re-hired Ahmadinejad because they simply saw no need to even "appear" more moderate with Obama in the White House. Say what you want about Bush, he had convictions and consistently displayed the courage of those convictions, politics be damned. As for President Obama, I have seen nothing that gives me the slightest hint of his convictions on foreign policy, aside from his need to pressure Israel for more concessions. Instead of taking issue with Roger's assertion that "Our president doesn’t support democracy", perhaps someone can point out examples of how our President IS SUPPORTING democracy.....perhaps starting with his chummy relationship with ACORN and his DOJ dropping charges against voter intimidation by Black Panthers at polling places. After all, if you cannot support democracy at home, how can you be an effective proponant of it abroad? I think that Roger makes a very good point; Obama has made it clear from the beginning that he would negotiate “without preconditions”. That indicates to me that he won’t take a stand for democracy, even to the point of using the power of his bully pulpit to exert pressure on the Mad Mullahs and the Thug-in-Cheif Ahmadinejad. Obama’s decision to go to the Middle East and promote his Muslim heritage, his middle name, and give Islam credit for every advance in civilization but the space program made him look weak and tentative. In turn, the Mullahs re-hired Ahmadinejad because they simply saw no need to even “appear” more moderate with Obama in the White House.

Say what you want about Bush, he had convictions and consistently displayed the courage of those convictions, politics be damned. As for President Obama, I have seen nothing that gives me the slightest hint of his convictions on foreign policy, aside from his need to pressure Israel for more concessions.

Instead of taking issue with Roger’s assertion that “Our president doesn’t support democracy”, perhaps someone can point out examples of how our President IS SUPPORTING democracy…..perhaps starting with his chummy relationship with ACORN and his DOJ dropping charges against voter intimidation by Black Panthers at polling places.

After all, if you cannot support democracy at home, how can you be an effective proponant of it abroad?

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