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		<title>By: tim maguire</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128258</link>
		<dc:creator>tim maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Just as the left made a heyday (oh, how they made a heyday!) out of Bush’s reaction to Katrina, the right is attacking Obama on Swine Flu.&lt;/i&gt;

Are anyone on the right really attacking Obama on Swine Flu? If you say it&#039;s so, then I believe it, but I have not seen a single instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just as the left made a heyday (oh, how they made a heyday!) out of Bush’s reaction to Katrina, the right is attacking Obama on Swine Flu.</i></p>
<p>Are anyone on the right really attacking Obama on Swine Flu? If you say it&#8217;s so, then I believe it, but I have not seen a single instance.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128254</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about all the press about Elephantine Flu? Is the GOP that sick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about all the press about Elephantine Flu? Is the GOP that sick?</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128253</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does an OVERREACTION now lessen the chance that this will turn deadly in the next go-around?  


Sorry for the triple post but this is really starting to bug me - especially coming from the &#039;never let a good crisis go to waste administration&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does an OVERREACTION now lessen the chance that this will turn deadly in the next go-around?  </p>
<p>Sorry for the triple post but this is really starting to bug me &#8211; especially coming from the &#8216;never let a good crisis go to waste administration&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128252</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ElMondo and John Moore:  there is potiential danger all around - every day.  

A little caution is a good thing.  Over caution, however, leads to no good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ElMondo and John Moore:  there is potiential danger all around &#8211; every day.  </p>
<p>A little caution is a good thing.  Over caution, however, leads to no good.</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128251</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help me understand this:  why has the government called for schools to close for two weeks if there is one case of this flu bug at the school, but the same government is telling us not to curtail travel in any way?

Something is not right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help me understand this:  why has the government called for schools to close for two weeks if there is one case of this flu bug at the school, but the same government is telling us not to curtail travel in any way?</p>
<p>Something is not right.</p>
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		<title>By: ElMondo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128247</link>
		<dc:creator>ElMondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Moore is right. Epidemiologists are getting worked up over this because of the &lt;i&gt;potential&lt;/i&gt; for disaster, not because we&#039;re already at that point. We&#039;re not. The whole issue with this specific variant is that the human population doesn&#039;t have an aquired immunity to any part of it already; contrast this to the &quot;Hong Kong&quot; flu of 1968, which had similarities to previous strains that led to an attenuation of the outbreak. The point here is that &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; this current round of &quot;swine flu&quot; really takes off, it can be terribly serious.

As far as the press goes: Roger&#039;s completely right for tweaking their inability to properly set context, but what goes unsaid is that it&#039;s actually rather accurate to call this a &quot;pandemic&quot;. An &quot;epidemic&quot; is, in loose terms, nothing more than an increase over the norm for a period of time (from what I recall from long-ago college classes, that&#039;s typically set to be a year, although I should be corrected on this if I&#039;m not remembering correctly). A &quot;pandemic&quot; are points of epidemics in multiple, distinct geographic regions. So technically, this &quot;swine flu&quot; event is indeed a &quot;pandemic&quot; in that there are multiple points across the globe with more incidents than the baseline. It&#039;s just that the numbers themselves are pretty low, but they meet the definitions, so that&#039;s why the terms are used.

However, despite the numbers (and while I&#039;m at it, in getting back to John Moore&#039;s post) we still &lt;b&gt;need&lt;/b&gt; to pay attention to the trends here, because the potential danger inherent in a second wave (like John said: &lt;i&gt;&quot;... it may come back next winter as a major danger (more virulent).&lt;/i&gt;&quot;) is definitely something to be concerned about. Science and history tells us that the second wave of pandemics tend to be bad; as an aside, that&#039;s one piece of context I wish the mainstream news outlets would communicate! The Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 also had a light, mild first wave, but the second one eventually killed over 20 million. And &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; was with an infection that had a death rate of only 2.5%; the numbers of people that had to be infected to result in that number of deaths is staggering. At any rate, it&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; round of infections I&#039;m worried about. 

While I would fault the news for being behind, late, and lackadaisical at getting context reported, let alone reported &lt;i&gt;correctly&lt;/i&gt;, I still think it&#039;s important enough for them to cover it as much as they have. I&#039;d only quibble about properly setting the context, and for not putting much out there on &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; early measures, as alarmist as some of them are, are important. Better to nip a new variant in the bud than set a new chapter of edpidemiologic history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Moore is right. Epidemiologists are getting worked up over this because of the <i>potential</i> for disaster, not because we&#8217;re already at that point. We&#8217;re not. The whole issue with this specific variant is that the human population doesn&#8217;t have an aquired immunity to any part of it already; contrast this to the &#8220;Hong Kong&#8221; flu of 1968, which had similarities to previous strains that led to an attenuation of the outbreak. The point here is that <i>if</i> this current round of &#8220;swine flu&#8221; really takes off, it can be terribly serious.</p>
<p>As far as the press goes: Roger&#8217;s completely right for tweaking their inability to properly set context, but what goes unsaid is that it&#8217;s actually rather accurate to call this a &#8220;pandemic&#8221;. An &#8220;epidemic&#8221; is, in loose terms, nothing more than an increase over the norm for a period of time (from what I recall from long-ago college classes, that&#8217;s typically set to be a year, although I should be corrected on this if I&#8217;m not remembering correctly). A &#8220;pandemic&#8221; are points of epidemics in multiple, distinct geographic regions. So technically, this &#8220;swine flu&#8221; event is indeed a &#8220;pandemic&#8221; in that there are multiple points across the globe with more incidents than the baseline. It&#8217;s just that the numbers themselves are pretty low, but they meet the definitions, so that&#8217;s why the terms are used.</p>
<p>However, despite the numbers (and while I&#8217;m at it, in getting back to John Moore&#8217;s post) we still <b>need</b> to pay attention to the trends here, because the potential danger inherent in a second wave (like John said: <i>&#8220;&#8230; it may come back next winter as a major danger (more virulent).</i>&#8220;) is definitely something to be concerned about. Science and history tells us that the second wave of pandemics tend to be bad; as an aside, that&#8217;s one piece of context I wish the mainstream news outlets would communicate! The Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918 also had a light, mild first wave, but the second one eventually killed over 20 million. And <i>that</i> was with an infection that had a death rate of only 2.5%; the numbers of people that had to be infected to result in that number of deaths is staggering. At any rate, it&#8217;s not <i>this</i> round of infections I&#8217;m worried about. </p>
<p>While I would fault the news for being behind, late, and lackadaisical at getting context reported, let alone reported <i>correctly</i>, I still think it&#8217;s important enough for them to cover it as much as they have. I&#8217;d only quibble about properly setting the context, and for not putting much out there on <i>why</i> early measures, as alarmist as some of them are, are important. Better to nip a new variant in the bud than set a new chapter of edpidemiologic history.</p>
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		<title>By: Conceit</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128241</link>
		<dc:creator>Conceit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like when Roger argues with his editor.  Reminds me of Dom DeLuise&#039;s character in The End.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like when Roger argues with his editor.  Reminds me of Dom DeLuise&#8217;s character in The End.</p>
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		<title>By: Arty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128240</link>
		<dc:creator>Arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I better clarify that. There&#039;s lots of good media people too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I better clarify that. There&#8217;s lots of good media people too.</p>
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		<title>By: Arty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128239</link>
		<dc:creator>Arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Swine media&#039; is a bigger threat than &#039;media flu&#039;. I&#039;m referring to the smear campaign against Carrie Prejean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Swine media&#8217; is a bigger threat than &#8216;media flu&#8217;. I&#8217;m referring to the smear campaign against Carrie Prejean.</p>
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		<title>By: Arty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/05/02/media-flu-update/#comment-128238</link>
		<dc:creator>Arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Swine media&#039; is a bigger threat than &#039;media flu&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Swine media&#8217; is a bigger threat than &#8216;media flu&#8217;.</p>
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