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		<title>By: Tonya</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/03/24/is-the-obama-administration-manufacturing-libertarians/#comment-126714</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Obama Administration manufacturing libertarians?
My answer is yes they are.
 
I&#039;m starting to think my computer browser is taken over by them as well.
I cannot go to web-sites that are Republican on AOL or Google anymore.
 
Does Oprah own AOL? 
Are AOL and Google run by communists now? No, maybe they are owned by SOCIALISTS! 
I can no longer get to Pajamasmedia by using AOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Obama Administration manufacturing libertarians?<br />
My answer is yes they are.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think my computer browser is taken over by them as well.<br />
I cannot go to web-sites that are Republican on AOL or Google anymore.</p>
<p>Does Oprah own AOL?<br />
Are AOL and Google run by communists now? No, maybe they are owned by SOCIALISTS!<br />
I can no longer get to Pajamasmedia by using AOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Reasin</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/03/24/is-the-obama-administration-manufacturing-libertarians/#comment-126437</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Reasin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended the February 27th DC Tea Party tyhat was monitored by a federal SWAT supervisor.  SOP according to him.  No MSM overage, just PJ and Reason TV.  

I will attend the April 4th Silver Spring, MD Tea Party and others.  Yes, we are small in numbers but from my conversations with people in malls and on the street, we are not alone, they just don`t attend such demonstations since they are too busy with their lives and don´t believe that congress and the president will listen to them anyway.

It will take violance as usual, I&#039;m afraid, to get the medias` attention and then it will be labeled as some nut group.  These clowns in DC seem to believe that they are the untouchables.  I have suggested to organizers that maybe only demonstations at their local offices will impress them, but we have seen little of that.  

Maybe if citizens tarred and feathereds Dodd that might get thier attention.  One can always hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the February 27th DC Tea Party tyhat was monitored by a federal SWAT supervisor.  SOP according to him.  No MSM overage, just PJ and Reason TV.  </p>
<p>I will attend the April 4th Silver Spring, MD Tea Party and others.  Yes, we are small in numbers but from my conversations with people in malls and on the street, we are not alone, they just don`t attend such demonstations since they are too busy with their lives and don´t believe that congress and the president will listen to them anyway.</p>
<p>It will take violance as usual, I&#8217;m afraid, to get the medias` attention and then it will be labeled as some nut group.  These clowns in DC seem to believe that they are the untouchables.  I have suggested to organizers that maybe only demonstations at their local offices will impress them, but we have seen little of that.  </p>
<p>Maybe if citizens tarred and feathereds Dodd that might get thier attention.  One can always hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/03/24/is-the-obama-administration-manufacturing-libertarians/#comment-126435</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 Yeah, and the other 50% goes to sales taxes, incomes tax, state income tax, phone bill tax, utility tax, then on to cap and trade tax, cut in donations deduction...etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 Yeah, and the other 50% goes to sales taxes, incomes tax, state income tax, phone bill tax, utility tax, then on to cap and trade tax, cut in donations deduction&#8230;etc</p>
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		<title>By: Jungus</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/03/24/is-the-obama-administration-manufacturing-libertarians/#comment-126434</link>
		<dc:creator>Jungus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it, most of us (that frequent this blog) are a 9-11 created mix of neo-con libertarian.  We believe in small government and yet want to be more aggressive against foreign belligerents.
These are not dissimilar views.  By being complacent, we allowed the Taliban to hide terrorists and Saddam to enrich himself while shooting at our warplanes in defiance of our cease-fire. 
In the same way we have allowed government to creep further into our wallet while keeping us from enjoying our lives how we see fit. (smoking/drug laws, zoning codes, 2nd amendment restrictions).
That is why I see myself as a small l libertarian, one that is very ok with the war in Iraq (i.e. smash it and then rebuild it, for the reason that this plan was the only one that has removed a threat).  Right now neither big party stands up for these 2 positions.

Also, I really am mad about how ACORN tried to co-opt the T-Party movement with this witch hunt.  I almost want to publish a list of all registered ACORN members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it, most of us (that frequent this blog) are a 9-11 created mix of neo-con libertarian.  We believe in small government and yet want to be more aggressive against foreign belligerents.<br />
These are not dissimilar views.  By being complacent, we allowed the Taliban to hide terrorists and Saddam to enrich himself while shooting at our warplanes in defiance of our cease-fire.<br />
In the same way we have allowed government to creep further into our wallet while keeping us from enjoying our lives how we see fit. (smoking/drug laws, zoning codes, 2nd amendment restrictions).<br />
That is why I see myself as a small l libertarian, one that is very ok with the war in Iraq (i.e. smash it and then rebuild it, for the reason that this plan was the only one that has removed a threat).  Right now neither big party stands up for these 2 positions.</p>
<p>Also, I really am mad about how ACORN tried to co-opt the T-Party movement with this witch hunt.  I almost want to publish a list of all registered ACORN members.</p>
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		<title>By: elvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahaha.... MSM will not know what hit them.... that&#039;s a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahaha&#8230;. MSM will not know what hit them&#8230;. that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Neobuzz</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/03/24/is-the-obama-administration-manufacturing-libertarians/#comment-126425</link>
		<dc:creator>Neobuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a lot of overstated commentary after the last election about how Republicans needed to reinvent themselves.  Few of the pundits seemed to have a clue about what had gone wrong.  Maybe it is because not much had gone wrong – a 6 percentage point victory by the opposition after a two term presidency is an unsurprising result according to those who study such things.

But I wouldn’t say nothing went wrong.  Any observer looking closely enough to see past the distraction of the war on terror was aware that the conservative first principle of limiting the size and scope of government was receiving short shrift by our own side.  In the pursuit of their own narrow self-interest, Republican pols from Compassionate George on down moved away from this most libertarian precept.  

Now, thanks to Obama and the Democratic Congressional leadership, this issue has been handed back to us on a platter.  For this, we owe the Democrats a debt of gratitude.  The question now is whether our pantheon of Republican leaders, squishy principles and all, will be able to do anything with this great gift.

Finally, I would like to note that there is a deeper problem here for conservatives.  It is a problem of faulty self-selection.  Why would libertarians want to squander their lives working for government?  Most don’t.  Because libertarians select themselves out of government, we are left with elected representatives, even on the Republican side, who harbor big government sympathies.  There is the real problem for conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a lot of overstated commentary after the last election about how Republicans needed to reinvent themselves.  Few of the pundits seemed to have a clue about what had gone wrong.  Maybe it is because not much had gone wrong – a 6 percentage point victory by the opposition after a two term presidency is an unsurprising result according to those who study such things.</p>
<p>But I wouldn’t say nothing went wrong.  Any observer looking closely enough to see past the distraction of the war on terror was aware that the conservative first principle of limiting the size and scope of government was receiving short shrift by our own side.  In the pursuit of their own narrow self-interest, Republican pols from Compassionate George on down moved away from this most libertarian precept.  </p>
<p>Now, thanks to Obama and the Democratic Congressional leadership, this issue has been handed back to us on a platter.  For this, we owe the Democrats a debt of gratitude.  The question now is whether our pantheon of Republican leaders, squishy principles and all, will be able to do anything with this great gift.</p>
<p>Finally, I would like to note that there is a deeper problem here for conservatives.  It is a problem of faulty self-selection.  Why would libertarians want to squander their lives working for government?  Most don’t.  Because libertarians select themselves out of government, we are left with elected representatives, even on the Republican side, who harbor big government sympathies.  There is the real problem for conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/03/24/is-the-obama-administration-manufacturing-libertarians/#comment-126422</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is indeed behind the stragedy to fabricate a libertarian swelling. But its a divide and rule strategy designed to weaken the only true source that can mount a political opposition to him/congress.

How sweet for the re-election of, not only him, but of the Dem majority in congress: If 1300 Libertarian votes come in when the Dem won by only 400 margin; the dem wins by de windfall.

Libertarian is a philosophy, not a political strategy.  A nice ideal, as all philosophy is, but not realistic where results are concerned. 

Obama switches from straw man to shibboleth, as though Libertarian provides the purity one seeks, if one falls for the &quot;both party&#039;s are equally bad&quot; moral eqivalence double reverse. (ruse) &lt;i&gt;see Glenn Beck.&lt;/i&gt;divide and rule, &lt;i&gt;see above&lt;/i&gt;

We must keep up, to clean up.

&quot;Independents&quot; were taken in by the false promise of &quot;change&quot; and we won&#039;t get many Dems to switch, as both are heavily invested &lt;i&gt;emotionally&lt;/i&gt;  with the notion of &quot;good intentions must surely be the way?&quot;

But we can win with ideas, and Libertarian ideas, if strong, have hope of a place in only one of the two viable party&#039;s, and its not Democrat Party: they need us to vote Libertatian, in order to vote Dem, back in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is indeed behind the stragedy to fabricate a libertarian swelling. But its a divide and rule strategy designed to weaken the only true source that can mount a political opposition to him/congress.</p>
<p>How sweet for the re-election of, not only him, but of the Dem majority in congress: If 1300 Libertarian votes come in when the Dem won by only 400 margin; the dem wins by de windfall.</p>
<p>Libertarian is a philosophy, not a political strategy.  A nice ideal, as all philosophy is, but not realistic where results are concerned. </p>
<p>Obama switches from straw man to shibboleth, as though Libertarian provides the purity one seeks, if one falls for the &#8220;both party&#8217;s are equally bad&#8221; moral eqivalence double reverse. (ruse) <i>see Glenn Beck.</i>divide and rule, <i>see above</i></p>
<p>We must keep up, to clean up.</p>
<p>&#8220;Independents&#8221; were taken in by the false promise of &#8220;change&#8221; and we won&#8217;t get many Dems to switch, as both are heavily invested <i>emotionally</i>  with the notion of &#8220;good intentions must surely be the way?&#8221;</p>
<p>But we can win with ideas, and Libertarian ideas, if strong, have hope of a place in only one of the two viable party&#8217;s, and its not Democrat Party: they need us to vote Libertatian, in order to vote Dem, back in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Dauphin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Dauphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Obama says confidently that the economy will get better, hang in there, etc., he ultimately bases this on what we traditionally know about recessions, namely that they end at some point. Yet, he promises to manage the economy to end boom/bust cycles. This is utter piffle. 

We are in the process of throwing outrageous sums of money and making enduring commitments of spending based on little more than wishful thinking. Perhaps Obama can write a book, make everyone buy a copy at a ridiculous price and finance healthcare with it. He&#039; done nothing in his career to inspire any confidence that he knows anything about the economy. I think we are near the time when we will see an Alfred E. Obama parody-- what, me worry?

&quot;Fixing&quot; healthcare will ensure prosperity? Funny that most Europeans enjoy socialized medicine and are suffering worse than we during this recession. Some spots in Europe are in deep trouble, but let&#039;s be more like them.

Obama isn&#039;t creating libertarians, he is creating very angry taxpayers who have already paid their dues by losing 50% or their IRAs/401(K)&#039;s. It&#039;s many of those folks who are forming tea parties, not bonus receiving Wall Streeters. 

And yes, official libertarians have a zero tolerance for aggression fetish, which is one (of the many) reasons why libertarianism will always be nothing more than a fringe movement, and why many of the official libertarian movement can safely write smug articles about why everyone besides them is a nincompoop (because they&#039;ll never have to wrestle with the messiness of really governing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Obama says confidently that the economy will get better, hang in there, etc., he ultimately bases this on what we traditionally know about recessions, namely that they end at some point. Yet, he promises to manage the economy to end boom/bust cycles. This is utter piffle. </p>
<p>We are in the process of throwing outrageous sums of money and making enduring commitments of spending based on little more than wishful thinking. Perhaps Obama can write a book, make everyone buy a copy at a ridiculous price and finance healthcare with it. He&#8217; done nothing in his career to inspire any confidence that he knows anything about the economy. I think we are near the time when we will see an Alfred E. Obama parody&#8211; what, me worry?</p>
<p>&#8220;Fixing&#8221; healthcare will ensure prosperity? Funny that most Europeans enjoy socialized medicine and are suffering worse than we during this recession. Some spots in Europe are in deep trouble, but let&#8217;s be more like them.</p>
<p>Obama isn&#8217;t creating libertarians, he is creating very angry taxpayers who have already paid their dues by losing 50% or their IRAs/401(K)&#8217;s. It&#8217;s many of those folks who are forming tea parties, not bonus receiving Wall Streeters. </p>
<p>And yes, official libertarians have a zero tolerance for aggression fetish, which is one (of the many) reasons why libertarianism will always be nothing more than a fringe movement, and why many of the official libertarian movement can safely write smug articles about why everyone besides them is a nincompoop (because they&#8217;ll never have to wrestle with the messiness of really governing).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The short sighted foreign policy issues are the reason why I, and a lot of others, are not Big L libertarians. You can debate it as long as you are honest about the existing situation in 2003. Many aren&#039;t. Ron Paul&#039;s campaign was marred by some unrealistic ideas on foreign affairs plus some ugly anti-Semitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The short sighted foreign policy issues are the reason why I, and a lot of others, are not Big L libertarians. You can debate it as long as you are honest about the existing situation in 2003. Many aren&#8217;t. Ron Paul&#8217;s campaign was marred by some unrealistic ideas on foreign affairs plus some ugly anti-Semitism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightnin' Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightnin' Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More blame should attach to Bush....&quot;

Sure. Why buck the trend now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More blame should attach to Bush&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure. Why buck the trend now?</p>
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