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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-122969</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess right-wing blogging is out in the age of Obama and the downfall of Fox News.</description>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like to Post About Today &#8230;.. (Afternoon, Round 1)</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-122310</link>
		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Things I&#8217;d Like to Post About Today &#8230;.. (Afternoon, Round 1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Jeff Goldstein has Roger Simon&#8217;s e-mail and his own reax here), and Roger Simon&#8217;s follow-up post at PJM. I have four comments: First, I made virtually nothing from their ads, and I&#8217;m not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Jeff Goldstein has Roger Simon&#8217;s e-mail and his own reax here), and Roger Simon&#8217;s follow-up post at PJM. I have four comments: First, I made virtually nothing from their ads, and I&#8217;m not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another Blog Casualty: Conservative Pajamas Media Ad Network Shutting Down &#124; Peter Kafka &#124; MediaMemo &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-122207</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Blog Casualty: Conservative Pajamas Media Ad Network Shutting Down &#124; Peter Kafka &#124; MediaMemo &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Media itself isn&#8217;t shutting down, CEO Roger L. Simon, explains in a post &#8212; it will be concentrating instead on its PajamasTV video site. I&#8217;d show you a clip, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Media itself isn&#8217;t shutting down, CEO Roger L. Simon, explains in a post &#8212; it will be concentrating instead on its PajamasTV video site. I&#8217;d show you a clip, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ratatosk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-121709</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratatosk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been involved in a number of sites and forums and web games since the inception of the WWW... I have to say that the ad revenue route has only ever appeared profitable in Huge corporate situations like Google or in scam sites where users are tricked to click on ads that look like useful links.

For small and medium sized sites, even in Web 2.0, I think Tip Jars and direct contributions are the only option for making money. The overhead is near 0 and the annoyance factor of the ads are gone (Dunno about you, but I have never seen an ad on PJmedia... I block all ads.) Also, it allows the consumer to determine the value of the product and contribute accordingly... which provides good feedback to the content owners.

The only other option is paid subscriptions for access to private content and services (maybe forums or chat etc). I dunno if this path would work for PJMedia though, since it seems more focused on accessible communication.

I hope your contributors recoginize the constraints of the medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been involved in a number of sites and forums and web games since the inception of the <a href="http://WWW.." rel="nofollow">http://WWW..</a>. I have to say that the ad revenue route has only ever appeared profitable in Huge corporate situations like Google or in scam sites where users are tricked to click on ads that look like useful links.</p>
<p>For small and medium sized sites, even in Web 2.0, I think Tip Jars and direct contributions are the only option for making money. The overhead is near 0 and the annoyance factor of the ads are gone (Dunno about you, but I have never seen an ad on PJmedia&#8230; I block all ads.) Also, it allows the consumer to determine the value of the product and contribute accordingly&#8230; which provides good feedback to the content owners.</p>
<p>The only other option is paid subscriptions for access to private content and services (maybe forums or chat etc). I dunno if this path would work for PJMedia though, since it seems more focused on accessible communication.</p>
<p>I hope your contributors recoginize the constraints of the medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media dumps blogger ad network, going &#8220;television&#8221; &#124; the 941</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-121701</link>
		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media dumps blogger ad network, going &#8220;television&#8221; &#124; the 941</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Roger Simon wrote this to them: I wrote a letter to the Pajamas Media network bloggers yesterday, some of whom took it a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BMoon</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-121700</link>
		<dc:creator>BMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second all cfbleachers said, with the addition that perhaps within all the acrimonious whinging in the above posts there are buried a few gems of sound business advice. You hits some shoals or coral. Let it knock a few barnacles off and keep sailing, Roger. We&#039;re with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second all cfbleachers said, with the addition that perhaps within all the acrimonious whinging in the above posts there are buried a few gems of sound business advice. You hits some shoals or coral. Let it knock a few barnacles off and keep sailing, Roger. We&#8217;re with you.</p>
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		<title>By: BumperStickerist</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-121690</link>
		<dc:creator>BumperStickerist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn@91
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I make a distinction between people trying to figure out how to make a buck via &quot;new media&quot; on their own, compared to what Roger and Charles cobbled together as a business venture/paying hobby.

Dennis the Peasant has a tendentious, but accurate, summation of how PJM ignored the signs and threw itself onto the shoals.

Also, there&#039;s a difference between &quot;not knowing&quot; and disregarding.  Roger disregarded.

Fwiw, my starting point is this:  PJM blew through $900,000 - in an online world where the storage is cheap, the overhead can be low, and talent available.

... and the answer to your question is that Rush (go figure) went into the web business only after he figured out how he could make money doing it.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn@91<br />
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<p>I make a distinction between people trying to figure out how to make a buck via &#8220;new media&#8221; on their own, compared to what Roger and Charles cobbled together as a business venture/paying hobby.</p>
<p>Dennis the Peasant has a tendentious, but accurate, summation of how PJM ignored the signs and threw itself onto the shoals.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;not knowing&#8221; and disregarding.  Roger disregarded.</p>
<p>Fwiw, my starting point is this:  PJM blew through $900,000 &#8211; in an online world where the storage is cheap, the overhead can be low, and talent available.</p>
<p>&#8230; and the answer to your question is that Rush (go figure) went into the web business only after he figured out how he could make money doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: cfbleachers</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-121687</link>
		<dc:creator>cfbleachers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to the game in the middle innings, so I can&#039;t profess to know what happened before.

I sit in the bleachers, not on the field...so, I can&#039;t claim to play any significant role in how the game is played.

I have not the faintest clue as to how to take this medium and make it profitable.

All I know, what I fervently believe...is that there are voices that need to be heard.  When the information stream is kidnapped and and gangraped somebody must form the resistance and fight for its honor.

Warehousing a place for the common good, a safe haven and a welcoming port of entry is a brilliant concept that should be kept alive.  Nobody alone should shoulder that burden, not if it is indeed a place for common advancement of honorable ideals.

Internal squabbling and finger pointing leaves the antagonist assholes above smirking in delight as they relish their stolen sophistry.

Jeff and Dan have value, Bob Owens has value, Ed and Hot Air have value, Glenn has value, Ace has value, the Anchoress has value, Bill Whittle has value etc.  And Roger along with PJM itself ...they have value. 

It would seem to me that finding a way to achieve common goals is of universal benefit to this overall movement to restore the stolen honor and integrity of our kidnapped and gang raped informaton stream.

But again, I don&#039;t have a name on my uniform, I don&#039;t even have a uniform and haven&#039;t grabbed a bat to take my swings.  I&#039;m just sitting in the bleachers making notes in my scorecard.  For what it was worth...I have loved and treasured all of you.  You are the heroes on the field.  I just don&#039;t want to watch you fight with each other in the dugout.  I am but one fan, lost in a sea of of anonymous faces...that you don&#039;t hear applauding loud enough, often enough.  Set your ears to the wind, you can still hear us cheering and I will be standing in ovation, out in your centerfield bleachers.  Play on.  The game has not ended.  Play on.  For those of us that you inspire, play on.

Together, somehow...play on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to the game in the middle innings, so I can&#8217;t profess to know what happened before.</p>
<p>I sit in the bleachers, not on the field&#8230;so, I can&#8217;t claim to play any significant role in how the game is played.</p>
<p>I have not the faintest clue as to how to take this medium and make it profitable.</p>
<p>All I know, what I fervently believe&#8230;is that there are voices that need to be heard.  When the information stream is kidnapped and and gangraped somebody must form the resistance and fight for its honor.</p>
<p>Warehousing a place for the common good, a safe haven and a welcoming port of entry is a brilliant concept that should be kept alive.  Nobody alone should shoulder that burden, not if it is indeed a place for common advancement of honorable ideals.</p>
<p>Internal squabbling and finger pointing leaves the antagonist assholes above smirking in delight as they relish their stolen sophistry.</p>
<p>Jeff and Dan have value, Bob Owens has value, Ed and Hot Air have value, Glenn has value, Ace has value, the Anchoress has value, Bill Whittle has value etc.  And Roger along with PJM itself &#8230;they have value. </p>
<p>It would seem to me that finding a way to achieve common goals is of universal benefit to this overall movement to restore the stolen honor and integrity of our kidnapped and gang raped informaton stream.</p>
<p>But again, I don&#8217;t have a name on my uniform, I don&#8217;t even have a uniform and haven&#8217;t grabbed a bat to take my swings.  I&#8217;m just sitting in the bleachers making notes in my scorecard.  For what it was worth&#8230;I have loved and treasured all of you.  You are the heroes on the field.  I just don&#8217;t want to watch you fight with each other in the dugout.  I am but one fan, lost in a sea of of anonymous faces&#8230;that you don&#8217;t hear applauding loud enough, often enough.  Set your ears to the wind, you can still hear us cheering and I will be standing in ovation, out in your centerfield bleachers.  Play on.  The game has not ended.  Play on.  For those of us that you inspire, play on.</p>
<p>Together, somehow&#8230;play on.</p>
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		<title>By: fmfnavydoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fmfnavydoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye - since we don&#039;t know the entire story, if PJ ads was having money issues with, did Roger talk with them throughout the process?  It seemed like Jeff, Ace and others were taken by surprise about this - if Roger had been communicating with them well before his announcement, it would have given them options on looking for support.

Yes, I understand capitalism. I&#039;ve been unemployed before...and I&#039;m sure that the blogs are not the only means of support for those that are affected.  I just seems like parties on both sides were not talking and planning for instances like this.  I just don&#039;t want to see good people have to give up something they enjoy doing.  Some will fade away, and some will suspend blogging until things get better for themselves...It just seems like this could have been handled better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye &#8211; since we don&#8217;t know the entire story, if PJ ads was having money issues with, did Roger talk with them throughout the process?  It seemed like Jeff, Ace and others were taken by surprise about this &#8211; if Roger had been communicating with them well before his announcement, it would have given them options on looking for support.</p>
<p>Yes, I understand capitalism. I&#8217;ve been unemployed before&#8230;and I&#8217;m sure that the blogs are not the only means of support for those that are affected.  I just seems like parties on both sides were not talking and planning for instances like this.  I just don&#8217;t want to see good people have to give up something they enjoy doing.  Some will fade away, and some will suspend blogging until things get better for themselves&#8230;It just seems like this could have been handled better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sookie</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/30/pajamas-media-matters/#comment-121277</link>
		<dc:creator>sookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll my voice to those unimpressed with PJTV.   I cruise the blogs at work to keep up with what&#039;s going on, can&#039;t watch the videos.... and honestly I mostly don&#039;t want to.   I read transcripts occasionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll my voice to those unimpressed with PJTV.   I cruise the blogs at work to keep up with what&#8217;s going on, can&#8217;t watch the videos&#8230;. and honestly I mostly don&#8217;t want to.   I read transcripts occasionally.</p>
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