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	<title>Comments on: Learning to live with victory: on Skype with Michael Yon</title>
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		<title>By: gippergal</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/11/23/learning-to-live-with-victory-on-skype-with-michael-yon/#comment-102582</link>
		<dc:creator>gippergal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is Thanksgiving week, so I will choose to simply be grateful for a dedicated eyewitness on the ground.

You know. Instead of hair-pulled-out angry that the established, elitist media is more interested in making money than that old-fashioned virtue, reporting the news. Seeing a great, solid guy out there actually makes me all the more aware of the discrepancy between him and the leftist illuminati who take themselves so seriously (hopefully, a little less, after Ben Affleck&#039;s great Olbermann rendition on SNL). 

More than wishing I could see &quot;fair and balanced&quot; reporting, I wish I could see quality. Real quality.

It&#039;s something I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever had in my generation, and sometimes I think I never will see a big three network, or the cable mainstays, have quality reporting.

That saddens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is Thanksgiving week, so I will choose to simply be grateful for a dedicated eyewitness on the ground.</p>
<p>You know. Instead of hair-pulled-out angry that the established, elitist media is more interested in making money than that old-fashioned virtue, reporting the news. Seeing a great, solid guy out there actually makes me all the more aware of the discrepancy between him and the leftist illuminati who take themselves so seriously (hopefully, a little less, after Ben Affleck&#8217;s great Olbermann rendition on SNL). </p>
<p>More than wishing I could see &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; reporting, I wish I could see quality. Real quality.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s something I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve ever had in my generation, and sometimes I think I never will see a big three network, or the cable mainstays, have quality reporting.</p>
<p>That saddens me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Thomson, #9

Barack Obama is a politician, politicians contradict themselves all the time. They are changeable beasts, masters of the protean ever ready to alter their ways, adapt to new situations, and blithely deny they ever espoused any course other than what they now promote. When it comes to hypocrisy politicians are consummate professionals.

We let them get away with it, in part because we see no way to stop them, but mostly we don&#039;t care. As long as the Sun shines, gas is $2.00 or less a gallon, and the local NFL game sells out in time we&#039;re good. Our apathy bulwarked by constant reinforcement from culture, government, and early education. Activism takes resources, and there&#039;s bling we don&#039;t own yet.

The situation will change when the UAW starts rioting in Detroit over the shut down of Ford, Chevy and Chrysler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Thomson, #9</p>
<p>Barack Obama is a politician, politicians contradict themselves all the time. They are changeable beasts, masters of the protean ever ready to alter their ways, adapt to new situations, and blithely deny they ever espoused any course other than what they now promote. When it comes to hypocrisy politicians are consummate professionals.</p>
<p>We let them get away with it, in part because we see no way to stop them, but mostly we don&#8217;t care. As long as the Sun shines, gas is $2.00 or less a gallon, and the local NFL game sells out in time we&#8217;re good. Our apathy bulwarked by constant reinforcement from culture, government, and early education. Activism takes resources, and there&#8217;s bling we don&#8217;t own yet.</p>
<p>The situation will change when the UAW starts rioting in Detroit over the shut down of Ford, Chevy and Chrysler.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Yon and others seem to go out of their way to give the benefit of the doubt to Barack Obama.  His well established history is conveniently pushed to the side.  Everybody knows that Obama lies at the drop of a hat.  He is truly one of our most deceitful politicians.  But numerous people take it for granted that Obama is not lying to them!  Have we already forgotten how he lied to blue collar workers in Ohio regarding economic protectionism while Austan Goolsby was telling Canadian officials to ignore the lies required to get him elected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Yon and others seem to go out of their way to give the benefit of the doubt to Barack Obama.  His well established history is conveniently pushed to the side.  Everybody knows that Obama lies at the drop of a hat.  He is truly one of our most deceitful politicians.  But numerous people take it for granted that Obama is not lying to them!  Have we already forgotten how he lied to blue collar workers in Ohio regarding economic protectionism while Austan Goolsby was telling Canadian officials to ignore the lies required to get him elected?</p>
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		<title>By: Victory &#171; In Other Words</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victory &#171; In Other Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the &#8220;Nightly News&#8221; for your information?  Clearly, it&#8217;s left you uninformed.  Roger L. Simon knows the real deal. Michael [Yon], who was about to embed with an unspecified military operation in the Afghani [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the &#8220;Nightly News&#8221; for your information?  Clearly, it&#8217;s left you uninformed.  Roger L. Simon knows the real deal. Michael [Yon], who was about to embed with an unspecified military operation in the Afghani [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They believe the new president will support them in Afghanistan, just as McCain would have.&quot;

Is somebody smoking an illegal substance?  Barack Obama is a self hating American.  Our country is undeserving of victory over its enemies.  We supposedly crapped on these people and that explains their anger toward us.  In the long run, we should be very wary of Obama&#039;s existentially committed instincts.  Have we already forgotten Bill Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They believe the new president will support them in Afghanistan, just as McCain would have.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is somebody smoking an illegal substance?  Barack Obama is a self hating American.  Our country is undeserving of victory over its enemies.  We supposedly crapped on these people and that explains their anger toward us.  In the long run, we should be very wary of Obama&#8217;s existentially committed instincts.  Have we already forgotten Bill Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright?</p>
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		<title>By: steveaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,
If you had spent the last five years berating America&#039;s efforts in Iraq as &quot;Bush&#039;s Mess in Iraq,&quot; would you ever publicize our victory there?

Think about it:  if only eight months ago Iraq was a &quot;failed&quot; Neocon project, and if now, less than a year later, Iraq is a success, then there is simply no way to report the success without ceding all of your reportorial integrity.  

No, it&#039;s better to just keep quiet about it, and, look, there&#039;s a pretty butterfly!

The media and politicians that fell into this integrity trap should be laughed out of town.  Keep the pressure on them, Roger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,<br />
If you had spent the last five years berating America&#8217;s efforts in Iraq as &#8220;Bush&#8217;s Mess in Iraq,&#8221; would you ever publicize our victory there?</p>
<p>Think about it:  if only eight months ago Iraq was a &#8220;failed&#8221; Neocon project, and if now, less than a year later, Iraq is a success, then there is simply no way to report the success without ceding all of your reportorial integrity.  </p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s better to just keep quiet about it, and, look, there&#8217;s a pretty butterfly!</p>
<p>The media and politicians that fell into this integrity trap should be laughed out of town.  Keep the pressure on them, Roger.</p>
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		<title>By: steveaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,
If you had spent the last five years berating America&#039;s efforts in Iraq as &quot;Bush&#039;s Mess in Iraq,&quot; would you ever publicize our victory there?

Think about it:  if only eight months ago Iraq was a &quot;failed&quot; Neocon project, and if now, less than year later, Iraq is a success, then there is simply no way to report the success without ceding all of your reportorial integrity.  

No, it&#039;s better to just keep quiet about it, and, look, there&#039;s a pretty butterfly!

The media and politicians that fell into this integrity trap should be laughed out of town.  Keep the pressure on them, Roger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,<br />
If you had spent the last five years berating America&#8217;s efforts in Iraq as &#8220;Bush&#8217;s Mess in Iraq,&#8221; would you ever publicize our victory there?</p>
<p>Think about it:  if only eight months ago Iraq was a &#8220;failed&#8221; Neocon project, and if now, less than year later, Iraq is a success, then there is simply no way to report the success without ceding all of your reportorial integrity.  </p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s better to just keep quiet about it, and, look, there&#8217;s a pretty butterfly!</p>
<p>The media and politicians that fell into this integrity trap should be laughed out of town.  Keep the pressure on them, Roger.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinkie Ann LeBrainne</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/11/23/learning-to-live-with-victory-on-skype-with-michael-yon/#comment-102563</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinkie Ann LeBrainne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Bless Michael Yon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Bless Michael Yon.</p>
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		<title>By: Belladonna Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belladonna Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: Not only does no good deed in Iraq and Afghanistan go unpunished, but many good deeds there go unpublished---except by PJM &amp; on PJTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Not only does no good deed in Iraq and Afghanistan go unpunished, but many good deeds there go unpublished&#8212;except by PJM &amp; on PJTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Yon&#039;s reporting has been the principle source of news from Iraq for me for years. Second to him if Michael Totten whose focus is more on the Balkins and Lebanon. Those two guys are better than CNN, the New York Times and the rest of the MSM combined. I contribute to both of them. Worth every penny. That&#039;s what I do instead of subscribe to newspapers. I would also highly recommend Bing West&#039;s new book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Strongest-Tribe-Politics-Endgame-Iraq/dp/1400067014&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Strongest Tribe&lt;/a&gt;. It is similar to the Michael Yon book but with some additional background on the higher command. They are all great. This is what the internet is for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Yon&#8217;s reporting has been the principle source of news from Iraq for me for years. Second to him if Michael Totten whose focus is more on the Balkins and Lebanon. Those two guys are better than CNN, the New York Times and the rest of the MSM combined. I contribute to both of them. Worth every penny. That&#8217;s what I do instead of subscribe to newspapers. I would also highly recommend Bing West&#8217;s new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strongest-Tribe-Politics-Endgame-Iraq/dp/1400067014" rel="nofollow">The Strongest Tribe</a>. It is similar to the Michael Yon book but with some additional background on the higher command. They are all great. This is what the internet is for.</p>
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