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	<title>Comments on: The second reason Bill Clinton wants Obama to lose</title>
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		<title>By: newscaper</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/09/25/the-second-reason-bill-clinton-wants-obama-to-lose/#comment-99637</link>
		<dc:creator>newscaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided *months* ago that if it was going to be a Dem, I&#039;d gladly go for for Hillary over Obama.

My calculation was that, as much as I didn&#039;t care for her (she&#039;s more of a leftie than Bill ever was IMO)... she&#039;s a totally known quantity unlike the scary Obama, and she&#039;s enough of a Clinton opportunist to be willing to make some deals Republicans might be able to, however reluctantly, live with.

And when push came to shove wrt national defense, she does have a certain very real toughness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided *months* ago that if it was going to be a Dem, I&#8217;d gladly go for for Hillary over Obama.</p>
<p>My calculation was that, as much as I didn&#8217;t care for her (she&#8217;s more of a leftie than Bill ever was IMO)&#8230; she&#8217;s a totally known quantity unlike the scary Obama, and she&#8217;s enough of a Clinton opportunist to be willing to make some deals Republicans might be able to, however reluctantly, live with.</p>
<p>And when push came to shove wrt national defense, she does have a certain very real toughness.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said this exact same thing in a comment thread over at Hot Air a week or two ago. I said I thought Bill realized how bad Obama would be for this country. As much as I dislike the Clintons, if it ain&#039;t McCain, I&#039;d rather it be Hillary than Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said this exact same thing in a comment thread over at Hot Air a week or two ago. I said I thought Bill realized how bad Obama would be for this country. As much as I dislike the Clintons, if it ain&#8217;t McCain, I&#8217;d rather it be Hillary than Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Promoguy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/09/25/the-second-reason-bill-clinton-wants-obama-to-lose/#comment-99607</link>
		<dc:creator>Promoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; You are a bunch of little brats.&quot;

Helena Shaw, speaking of brats..............it is Oktoberfest time of year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; You are a bunch of little brats.&#8221;</p>
<p>Helena Shaw, speaking of brats&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..it is Oktoberfest time of year.</p>
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		<title>By: Helena Shaw</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/09/25/the-second-reason-bill-clinton-wants-obama-to-lose/#comment-99590</link>
		<dc:creator>Helena Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are sick with hatred and divisiveness.  That is what is wrong with our country!  You are a bunch of little brats.  You all make me sick.

Bill Clinton answers questions in clear rational response.  He does not get down in the dirt like some of you and claw the skin off of folks.  Is that what you hate-mongers want?  Blood??

Stop the hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are sick with hatred and divisiveness.  That is what is wrong with our country!  You are a bunch of little brats.  You all make me sick.</p>
<p>Bill Clinton answers questions in clear rational response.  He does not get down in the dirt like some of you and claw the skin off of folks.  Is that what you hate-mongers want?  Blood??</p>
<p>Stop the hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this video&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o" rel="nofollow"> this video</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda: You&#039;re right: it isn&#039;t hard to get the cold, hard facts right when you have a computer, which should make you doubly ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda: You&#8217;re right: it isn&#8217;t hard to get the cold, hard facts right when you have a computer, which should make you doubly ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain prefers the Town Hall Meetings - he likes to stack them with supporters. Its lees painfull for the auidience also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain prefers the Town Hall Meetings &#8211; he likes to stack them with supporters. Its lees painfull for the auidience also.</p>
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		<title>By: YouhaveAmnesia</title>
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		<dc:creator>YouhaveAmnesia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have your fact wrong.McCain did not challenge to debates...McCain Challenged Obama to 10 Town Hall Meetings.
I challenge you to set the record strait:
&quot;an obvious fact most of us had forgotten - McCain had previously asked Obama for repeated, even constant debates, which the Democratic candidate refused. (The mainstream media made nothing of this, needless to say.)  Indeed it seems Clinton wants Obama to lose.&quot;

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/04/mccain_challenges_obama_to_10.html?hpid=topnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have your fact wrong.McCain did not challenge to debates&#8230;McCain Challenged Obama to 10 Town Hall Meetings.<br />
I challenge you to set the record strait:<br />
&#8220;an obvious fact most of us had forgotten &#8211; McCain had previously asked Obama for repeated, even constant debates, which the Democratic candidate refused. (The mainstream media made nothing of this, needless to say.)  Indeed it seems Clinton wants Obama to lose.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/04/mccain_challenges_obama_to_10.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/04/mccain_challenges_obama_to_10.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: mrkwong</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrkwong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda - believe me, I have researched the issues.  McCain is as honest as politicians get and, while wrong on many things, he&#039;s right on the most important ones and he&#039;s never shied from advocating even unpopular positions.  I have little in common with Sarah Palin in personal beliefs but everything in philosophy of governance.  

Barack Obama is an opportunist; he&#039;s personally not evil, but he&#039;s surrounded by scum, and he&#039;s either consciously decided that his path to the top is best facilitated by doing so, or he&#039;s just let it happen by following the path of least resistance for a young black Chicago lawyer.  I believe he says not what he believes but what he thinks he can sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda &#8211; believe me, I have researched the issues.  McCain is as honest as politicians get and, while wrong on many things, he&#8217;s right on the most important ones and he&#8217;s never shied from advocating even unpopular positions.  I have little in common with Sarah Palin in personal beliefs but everything in philosophy of governance.  </p>
<p>Barack Obama is an opportunist; he&#8217;s personally not evil, but he&#8217;s surrounded by scum, and he&#8217;s either consciously decided that his path to the top is best facilitated by doing so, or he&#8217;s just let it happen by following the path of least resistance for a young black Chicago lawyer.  I believe he says not what he believes but what he thinks he can sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Teri Pittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teri Pittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this has been a power play to push the Clintons out of positions of power within the Democratic party. (And those pushing them out have been doing such a great job--just look at that 18% approval rating!)And I have to admit that the Obama supporters haver really done a number on the Clinton supporters. It&#039;s even worse for blacks that dared to support Clinton. And I suppose it&#039;s possible to ignore the shabby way Hilary was pushed aside. Ted Kennedy took it to the floor of the convention with less support than she had.

It&#039;s also interesting how we had to ignore the fact that there were women who were genuinely excited at Hilary&#039;s campaign. Let&#039;s face facts: if the Dems had nominated her, it&#039;s a sure bet she would have won. This should be a Democratic year after all. And so, instead, we got Obama&#039;s bogus claims of Clintonian race-baiting. Geez that man has a thin skin. Obama has offered nothing to pay down Hilary&#039;s debt yet somehow expects her to go out and campaign for her out of the goodness of her heart. 

Bill didn&#039;t get elected hanging out with the elites. He got elected hanging out with Bubbas. As a real politican, he enjoys their company (in fact would enjoy the company of anyone with a vote.) Do you truly think he would be supportive of a man who holds those same folks in such contempt? I&#039;m glad that he has said such nice things about McCain, the same way that I am glad that Sarah Palin has said nice things about Hilary. I&#039;m tired of this demonization of the other side. And it makes me feel a bit less disgusted at myself for voting for Bill those two times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this has been a power play to push the Clintons out of positions of power within the Democratic party. (And those pushing them out have been doing such a great job&#8211;just look at that 18% approval rating!)And I have to admit that the Obama supporters haver really done a number on the Clinton supporters. It&#8217;s even worse for blacks that dared to support Clinton. And I suppose it&#8217;s possible to ignore the shabby way Hilary was pushed aside. Ted Kennedy took it to the floor of the convention with less support than she had.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting how we had to ignore the fact that there were women who were genuinely excited at Hilary&#8217;s campaign. Let&#8217;s face facts: if the Dems had nominated her, it&#8217;s a sure bet she would have won. This should be a Democratic year after all. And so, instead, we got Obama&#8217;s bogus claims of Clintonian race-baiting. Geez that man has a thin skin. Obama has offered nothing to pay down Hilary&#8217;s debt yet somehow expects her to go out and campaign for her out of the goodness of her heart. </p>
<p>Bill didn&#8217;t get elected hanging out with the elites. He got elected hanging out with Bubbas. As a real politican, he enjoys their company (in fact would enjoy the company of anyone with a vote.) Do you truly think he would be supportive of a man who holds those same folks in such contempt? I&#8217;m glad that he has said such nice things about McCain, the same way that I am glad that Sarah Palin has said nice things about Hilary. I&#8217;m tired of this demonization of the other side. And it makes me feel a bit less disgusted at myself for voting for Bill those two times.</p>
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