I’m tired of taking up bandwidth playing whack-a-troll with you; Roger or somebody else in “his crowd” can have at it.

Oh Captain, my captain, do you know who wrote that? It was your candidate, John McCain, in his introduction to Halberstam’s book about Vietnam, The Best and The Brightest.

Now, before you jump me for bringing in Vietnam, know this: Roger and his crowd are the ones who always bring in a certain other war, World War II, to “dig in for the long haul” and justify every administration failure and excess in Iraq, so apparently, they are for comparing wars, but only when it suits their purposes.

In another sense, though, these amateur comparative historians are correct: universal lessons can be gleaned from war. Chiefly, national unity and sacrifice always matter. So, Captain, the next time you rip those who actually hear from constituents and are actually faced with making decisions about war and peace, ask yourself these questions: 1) Is there a shared sense of national unity in this country, 2) Is there a shared sense of sacrifice in this country, 3) In a war such as this, which the president has rightly identified as a battle like no other, against an enemy like no other, how can we continue indefinitely in Iraq with public support for the endeavor in profound jeopardy, some soldiers doing as many as four tours, and gung-ho hawks like yourself willing to do little more than pop off at a keyboard?

“I have reached the tentative conclusion that a significant portion of this administration, maybe even including the vice president, believes Iraq is lost,” Biden said. “They have no answer to deal with how badly they have screwed it up. I am not being facetious now. Therefore, the best thing to do is keep it from totally collapsing on your watch and hand it off to the next guy — literally, not figuratively.”

Wow, strong support Jay; really digging in for the long haul when things got rough, no? It doesn’t take much integrity to say you support something as long as nothing goes wrong. Do you know the difference between an opinion and a fact?

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Captain, really, reading people like you is like watching primates throw their own feces. Leave aside the fact that Biden, like myself, supported both wars Bush has waged (a poorly-named war on a tactic, if you ask me; wouldn’t want to name the enemy now, would we?). I’m not saying Biden had everything to do with it, but anyone with any understanding of the Quaddafi situation knows the president trusted the Senator enough to send him to negotiate with that thug. As much as a naked partisan like yourself hates to admit it, Biden’s tactics worked, along with, for once, whatever it was the president was throwing at the wall.

As written earlier, Biden is defeated by his arrogance and narcissism. The flannel mouth of the Senate, the man who knows all and tells all, all. Joe Biden is the personification; Ego, find another name and it shall be Bidenesque.

In short, he is off putting like a light switch, and Obama would be insane to make him VIP. Even in the secret confines of deep dark liberal Washington, he is a joke. A phony who has power because he has sat in the Senate for decades, rising to power by sheer utter longevity, not by brilliance or achievement.

To see who could make more verbal gaffs… and surprisingly Obama was the winner.