What I was saying is that the base was not the problem. The problem was that the pols didn’t listen to the base and tried to suck up to the multi-culti MSM. Of course the MSM would only portray the views of the base as slavering racists no matter how reasonable they were.

Given history it was to be expected that the “fence” had to come first in any comprehensive plan. Otherwise there would only have been amnesty and no fence.

If that was really how people felt Tancredo would be the nominee, not McCain. And look at Obama, he is promising to give drivers licenses to illegals and a lot of Americans could care less.

You have to understand the difference between true compromise and total sell-out. The MSM and their zombies pushed the theme that the big bad Republican right was anti-immigrant evil and nasty.

What the people wanted (70% IIRC) was strong measures to end illegal immigration to be put in place while determining the best way forward on dealing with those already here.

What the MSM etc. wanted was basically to “normalize” that status of all the illegals already here WHILE CONTINUING TO ALLOW (if not actually encourage) MORE ILLEAGAL IMMIGRATION.

That’s not compromise that’s surrender. If a robber takes $100 from you, is it a compromise to let him keep $50?

I don’t really think Bush is a failure. In fact I think it will be years before any such judgment can really be made. The fact that the not so loyal opposition has tried to ruin the man and has looked at his polls and decided they were successful is not really the way these kinds of determinations should be made. My God, I read that Brown in the UK has an approval rating of 18, the same as our own Congress.

And of course there are people in his own party who were more than happy to ride his coat tails when he had high ratings, only to abandon him when it was easier to turn away from Bush than to stand behind him.

But, the time may come when his plan to save Social Security might seem like it was not such a bad idea.

The time may come when Iraq has become an ally of the United States in which case the liberation of that country might not seem like a debacle today. After all, if not for Truman, there would not be a South Korea today. But it was not a popular policy at the time.

I think it is interesting to note that two of the policies that gave Bush the most grief: the war and immigration, are both policies that McCain showed support for as well.

It is also true that while the base railed against any compromise on immigration, the hardline stand many of them took did not help the GOP. In fact, if anything it seems to have only isolated and alienated the party from mainstream Americans. Most people want a balanced approach to problems like this and veer away from the fringes. Perhaps that is a result of a two party system for many years.

As for global warming, I may have my doubts about it, but I would rather have McCain approaching the issue with some semblance of common sense than Obama doing God knows what.

That guy just freaks me out.

Today in Oregon Obama made the following statement:

We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK.”

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What does that even mean?

Barry is simply McGovern revisited. He is toast.

But now that he’s its nominee, all his reporter buddies will dismiss him as just another fascist reactionary moron, with the added bonus of being a fossilized warmonger to boot.

I simply cannot believe that America has allowed such a collection of juveniles to form public opinion. Obsession with youth is bad enough; obsession with childishness is suicidal.

Scott

That is also everyone’s challenge if they wish to save Western Civilization. The MSM is now nothing less than the propaganda apparatus of the Democratic Party. To compare these folks exactly with Joseph Goebbels is not quite accurate. Still, their ability to manipulate the American public with their distortions is becoming downright scary.

I find it particularly disquieting that the GOP seems to be blamed the most for high energy prices. This is utterly ridiculous. The Democrats and their radical environmentalist allies are the ones primarily who have got us into this predicament. By all rights, the typical consumer should be enraged by the behavior of the Democrats and punish them accordingly in November.

If these were the years of Kennedy bringing democracy to the Middle East would have been a worthy cause and a fulfillment of his inaugural.
If this were the Clinton years bringing democracy
to Bosnia was his badge of success. To try implant democracy in Iraq would have been a further badge of the American capacity to achieve great things.

But this is George W. Bush, a Republican, a Texan, a man who does not market his achievements with the ease of a Kennedy, the disguise of a Clinton and the speeches of Ted Sorensen, this is all that the media hates; Bush, the Texan, te non Easterner, the fumbler with words and the guy who barely tolerates the media.