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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/10/george-as-baffled-as-i-am/#comment-92488</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Obama does not really preach centrist anything, he is an unabashed liberal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Obama does not really preach centrist anything, he is an unabashed liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/10/george-as-baffled-as-i-am/#comment-92487</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the critical knowledge gap, alright -- is he still forming, evolving, toward the centrist ideal he preaches -- or is all that just election-fog? Politics teaches, if nothing else, that cynicism will probably be justified. But only &#039;probably&#039; -- where what you get with the Clintonistas is &#039;certainty&#039;. I guess it&#039;s like Bubba said -- a &#039;dice roll&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the critical knowledge gap, alright &#8212; is he still forming, evolving, toward the centrist ideal he preaches &#8212; or is all that just election-fog? Politics teaches, if nothing else, that cynicism will probably be justified. But only &#8216;probably&#8217; &#8212; where what you get with the Clintonistas is &#8216;certainty&#8217;. I guess it&#8217;s like Bubba said &#8212; a &#8216;dice roll&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/10/george-as-baffled-as-i-am/#comment-92486</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy:

Better the devil you know. They do not call Obama the most liberal guy in the Senate for nothing. Beneath all that uniter rhetoric is a Republican hating, American bashing, leftist who would make the Clintons look absolutely centrist in comparison.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy:</p>
<p>Better the devil you know. They do not call Obama the most liberal guy in the Senate for nothing. Beneath all that uniter rhetoric is a Republican hating, American bashing, leftist who would make the Clintons look absolutely centrist in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/10/george-as-baffled-as-i-am/#comment-92485</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t conjure up a feeling either way on which Dem would be easier (harder?) for McCain to beat. All I know is that the Clintonistas corrupt the political process--and even the people&#039;s thought processes--on a very fundamental level, and that it would be a very good thing for us all, left and right, to be done with &#039;em.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t conjure up a feeling either way on which Dem would be easier (harder?) for McCain to beat. All I know is that the Clintonistas corrupt the political process&#8211;and even the people&#8217;s thought processes&#8211;on a very fundamental level, and that it would be a very good thing for us all, left and right, to be done with &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/10/george-as-baffled-as-i-am/#comment-92484</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have said transform the world, not the war.
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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>markus:

I don&#039;t know if I worry about it or not, but I think Obama is a fraud, or something. I watch him strut up there with his 20/20 hindsight talking imperiously about how we will transform the war blah blah blah. But you will never hear a guy like Obama talk about rational, realistic alternatives. Never. After all, he has never really had to make the hard decisions.

For instance, if we had not invaded Iraq, would we ever have known the true state of Saddam&#039;s plans via hidden weapons programs and missing stockpiles? No doubt if Bush could change certain things, he would {so would Bill Clinton}, but there is something creepy about the way Obama sails in and with a smug moral superiority starts to lecture us all on change. It is rather like the second wife saying that if the first wife had only understood that lovely man the marriage would have turned out so much better. Meanwhile the first wife, who put said man through medical school, is thinking ...just you wait sweetheart.

I have never heard Obama speak in any detail about how he would have handled the Food for oil scam or the deteriating sanctions regime, or the fact that the Saudis wanted us out and thus an end to the no fly zones, or the refusal of Saddam to resolve the situation in any peaceful way.

I hear Obama preach about Darfur, but what does he intend to do? Send in troops? Give speeches? And if he was prepared to turn a genocidal madman like Saddam lose on his own people in spite of Saddam&#039;s refusal to comply even with the humanitarian portions of the U.N. agreements...why strut and lecture on Darfur?

So, am I afraid of Obama becoming president? I am afraid that he will render the sacrifices of our military meaningless. I really don&#039;t think that most Democrats at this point care about winning in Iraq, in fact I think they believe that it would be good for them politically if we lose. So, that  bothers me. I also think that desire to lose is what it possible for a guy like Obama to challenge Hillary Clintont this way. I realize that most Democrats are not bothered by all this, because they gave up on winning the war or even caring if it was won about the same time they began to revise history and rewrite the 90&#039;s.

After all, one would never know that it was Zinni who said that Saddam was our number one threat..or that it was the left leaning Guardian newspaper that wrote the story about Iraqi Intel having meetings with AlQaida...or that is was Bill Richardson giving interviews with prominent newspeople about their naming Iraqis in the indictment against AlQaida in the African embassy bombings.

No, lots of history to rewrite, lots of surrendering and pandering to do, lots of chanting mindlessly and rhythmically...Obama Obama Obama ...

I am afraid that Hillary and a lot of other Democrats asked for this.

I can only hope that McCain can win the election.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>markus:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I worry about it or not, but I think Obama is a fraud, or something. I watch him strut up there with his 20/20 hindsight talking imperiously about how we will transform the war blah blah blah. But you will never hear a guy like Obama talk about rational, realistic alternatives. Never. After all, he has never really had to make the hard decisions.</p>
<p>For instance, if we had not invaded Iraq, would we ever have known the true state of Saddam&#8217;s plans via hidden weapons programs and missing stockpiles? No doubt if Bush could change certain things, he would {so would Bill Clinton}, but there is something creepy about the way Obama sails in and with a smug moral superiority starts to lecture us all on change. It is rather like the second wife saying that if the first wife had only understood that lovely man the marriage would have turned out so much better. Meanwhile the first wife, who put said man through medical school, is thinking &#8230;just you wait sweetheart.</p>
<p>I have never heard Obama speak in any detail about how he would have handled the Food for oil scam or the deteriating sanctions regime, or the fact that the Saudis wanted us out and thus an end to the no fly zones, or the refusal of Saddam to resolve the situation in any peaceful way.</p>
<p>I hear Obama preach about Darfur, but what does he intend to do? Send in troops? Give speeches? And if he was prepared to turn a genocidal madman like Saddam lose on his own people in spite of Saddam&#8217;s refusal to comply even with the humanitarian portions of the U.N. agreements&#8230;why strut and lecture on Darfur?</p>
<p>So, am I afraid of Obama becoming president? I am afraid that he will render the sacrifices of our military meaningless. I really don&#8217;t think that most Democrats at this point care about winning in Iraq, in fact I think they believe that it would be good for them politically if we lose. So, that  bothers me. I also think that desire to lose is what it possible for a guy like Obama to challenge Hillary Clintont this way. I realize that most Democrats are not bothered by all this, because they gave up on winning the war or even caring if it was won about the same time they began to revise history and rewrite the 90&#8242;s.</p>
<p>After all, one would never know that it was Zinni who said that Saddam was our number one threat..or that it was the left leaning Guardian newspaper that wrote the story about Iraqi Intel having meetings with AlQaida&#8230;or that is was Bill Richardson giving interviews with prominent newspeople about their naming Iraqis in the indictment against AlQaida in the African embassy bombings.</p>
<p>No, lots of history to rewrite, lots of surrendering and pandering to do, lots of chanting mindlessly and rhythmically&#8230;Obama Obama Obama &#8230;</p>
<p>I am afraid that Hillary and a lot of other Democrats asked for this.</p>
<p>I can only hope that McCain can win the election.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TerryeL, anyone:  are there any McCain supporters, Lieberman fans,conservatives, neocons, Wilsonian idealists, true liberals, zionist anti-islamofascists, or whatever you folks wish to call yourselves genuinely WORRIED about America electing Barack Obama as the next commander-in-chief, while Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi continue to lead Congress?

Aside from Roger, who confessed Obama scares him, I&#039;m not hearing a lot of worry.  Instead I&#039;m seeing a lot of Republicans begging Dems to nominate Clinton, or talking about how refreshing and healthy and morally invigorating Obama would be for the polity if he were nominated instead.  And as a Democrat, I&#039;m wondering why.

Now I know I smoke too much crack, and I am very paranoid...but still, I think my hunch that these writers are being disingenuous remains correct.  They know that Billary Hilldabeast is a sometimes formidable opponent, and they think (correctly in my view) that Mcain will open Obama up &quot;like a soft peanut.&quot;

Anyone here think McCain can lose to the junior Senator from Illinois?  Cause as a Hillary supporter, I gotta say, he&#039;s lookin&#039; like the nominee.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TerryeL, anyone:  are there any McCain supporters, Lieberman fans,conservatives, neocons, Wilsonian idealists, true liberals, zionist anti-islamofascists, or whatever you folks wish to call yourselves genuinely WORRIED about America electing Barack Obama as the next commander-in-chief, while Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi continue to lead Congress?</p>
<p>Aside from Roger, who confessed Obama scares him, I&#8217;m not hearing a lot of worry.  Instead I&#8217;m seeing a lot of Republicans begging Dems to nominate Clinton, or talking about how refreshing and healthy and morally invigorating Obama would be for the polity if he were nominated instead.  And as a Democrat, I&#8217;m wondering why.</p>
<p>Now I know I smoke too much crack, and I am very paranoid&#8230;but still, I think my hunch that these writers are being disingenuous remains correct.  They know that Billary Hilldabeast is a sometimes formidable opponent, and they think (correctly in my view) that Mcain will open Obama up &#8220;like a soft peanut.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone here think McCain can lose to the junior Senator from Illinois?  Cause as a Hillary supporter, I gotta say, he&#8217;s lookin&#8217; like the nominee.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.captainsquartersblog.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Captains Quarters &lt;/a&gt; has an interesting pic up from the Obama headquarters. It seems they have the Cuban flag with Che emblazoned across it, right up there for all to see. I saw a pic of the Democratic candidates standing in front a big flag at some function and the anthem was playing. Obama was the only one who did not have hand across heart.

Maybe he prefers another flag. Makes you wonder.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.captainsquartersblog.com" rel="nofollow"> Captains Quarters </a> has an interesting pic up from the Obama headquarters. It seems they have the Cuban flag with Che emblazoned across it, right up there for all to see. I saw a pic of the Democratic candidates standing in front a big flag at some function and the anthem was playing. Obama was the only one who did not have hand across heart.</p>
<p>Maybe he prefers another flag. Makes you wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>markus:

I just can not figure out what his Iraq policy is, first he is going to boogy because the war is bad bad bad, the most horrible thing that ever happened to the United States, ever.

Then he says we might have to say.

Then he says we are out the door.

Then he says the C in C might have to &quot;make adjustments&quot;.

I always get the feeling that his followers imagine him going to Saddam back in 2003, Saddam falls madly in love with him...starts chanting Obama Obama Obama and immediately becomes a kind sweet charming old man who only wants peace on earth.

gag me.

Kind of the like the whole Darfur thing. We will stop the killing. How? Just stop it.  Just stop it? yeah. How? Just tell them to cut it out. How? Just stop it that is all.

And on and on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>markus:</p>
<p>I just can not figure out what his Iraq policy is, first he is going to boogy because the war is bad bad bad, the most horrible thing that ever happened to the United States, ever.</p>
<p>Then he says we might have to say.</p>
<p>Then he says we are out the door.</p>
<p>Then he says the C in C might have to &#8220;make adjustments&#8221;.</p>
<p>I always get the feeling that his followers imagine him going to Saddam back in 2003, Saddam falls madly in love with him&#8230;starts chanting Obama Obama Obama and immediately becomes a kind sweet charming old man who only wants peace on earth.</p>
<p>gag me.</p>
<p>Kind of the like the whole Darfur thing. We will stop the killing. How? Just stop it.  Just stop it? yeah. How? Just tell them to cut it out. How? Just stop it that is all.</p>
<p>And on and on.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryeL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IVV:

I was in farming for years. That is the same promise every administration has made for decades. I will support the family farmer, not the big ugly corporate farmers blah blah blah.
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<p>I was in farming for years. That is the same promise every administration has made for decades. I will support the family farmer, not the big ugly corporate farmers blah blah blah.</p>
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