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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s Worse &#8211; MSNBC or Hillary Clinton?</title>
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		<title>By: ms anne</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92427</link>
		<dc:creator>ms anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tired of everybody screaming for apologies.

If Chelsea performs in public and participates as she does in politics, she&#039;s a fair target. As Harry Truman said, If she can&#039;t stand the heat she should get out of the kitchen, off the stage, away from the cameras, and off the phone.

Chelsea&#039;s a prop the Clintons pull out to visually attest to their family values.  Family values like the evening parties with Burkle, the deals and investments from overseas, the pardons, the gifts to furnish their homes, and the girlfriends.  Threats and uber-reaction emphasize the Clintons&#039; desire to force everyone, news media as well as voters, to acknowledge their presence as royalty above the fray of common folk.

This is a genuine battle the &quot;inevitable victors&quot; didn&#039;t expect.  Quit howling for special treatment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tired of everybody screaming for apologies.</p>
<p>If Chelsea performs in public and participates as she does in politics, she&#8217;s a fair target. As Harry Truman said, If she can&#8217;t stand the heat she should get out of the kitchen, off the stage, away from the cameras, and off the phone.</p>
<p>Chelsea&#8217;s a prop the Clintons pull out to visually attest to their family values.  Family values like the evening parties with Burkle, the deals and investments from overseas, the pardons, the gifts to furnish their homes, and the girlfriends.  Threats and uber-reaction emphasize the Clintons&#8217; desire to force everyone, news media as well as voters, to acknowledge their presence as royalty above the fray of common folk.</p>
<p>This is a genuine battle the &#8220;inevitable victors&#8221; didn&#8217;t expect.  Quit howling for special treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: GringoTex</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92426</link>
		<dc:creator>GringoTex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom of speech issue?
The reporter was an employee. As such, his &quot;pimped out&quot; comment was a reflection on his employer. He was free to make the comment, and free to take the consequences. Do you think MSNBC would like to be known as the network that described  the daughter of an ex-president and a presidential candidate as &quot;pimped out,&quot; simply for campaigning for her mother?
Recall the Rebecca Aguilar incident in Dallas, where she got suspended from her position as a TV journalist for being nasty to an old man.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of speech issue?<br />
The reporter was an employee. As such, his &#8220;pimped out&#8221; comment was a reflection on his employer. He was free to make the comment, and free to take the consequences. Do you think MSNBC would like to be known as the network that described  the daughter of an ex-president and a presidential candidate as &#8220;pimped out,&#8221; simply for campaigning for her mother?<br />
Recall the Rebecca Aguilar incident in Dallas, where she got suspended from her position as a TV journalist for being nasty to an old man.</p>
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		<title>By: Tailspin</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92425</link>
		<dc:creator>Tailspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess what most troubles me about this is a (presumably) accredited reporter makes an observation about a newsworthy event; the object of the observation makes a threat; and the corporate execs throw their reporter to the wolves.

It smacks of the Mohammad cartoons, the difference being the nature of the threat. In the cartoons, you could argue that the MSM caved because the backlash might have been physical and bloody. In the Clinton case, it appears to be financial ñ and expulsion from the Dem/MSM clique.

As far as I can tell, the observation was couched in offensive language but not libelous. Not long ago a reporter from this same news organization referred to President Bush as a monkey. Her punishment was an on-air apology.

Quite frankly Iím not sure what this means. I think itís a freedom of speech issue, but I canít quite articulate how. Something to do with guarantees of the First Amendment being decided outside of Congress and the Judiciary?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess what most troubles me about this is a (presumably) accredited reporter makes an observation about a newsworthy event; the object of the observation makes a threat; and the corporate execs throw their reporter to the wolves.</p>
<p>It smacks of the Mohammad cartoons, the difference being the nature of the threat. In the cartoons, you could argue that the MSM caved because the backlash might have been physical and bloody. In the Clinton case, it appears to be financial ñ and expulsion from the Dem/MSM clique.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, the observation was couched in offensive language but not libelous. Not long ago a reporter from this same news organization referred to President Bush as a monkey. Her punishment was an on-air apology.</p>
<p>Quite frankly Iím not sure what this means. I think itís a freedom of speech issue, but I canít quite articulate how. Something to do with guarantees of the First Amendment being decided outside of Congress and the Judiciary?</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Hate</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92424</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading comments elsewhere on the interweb make it obvious that the hatred of Obama by the Hill-shills is at least as severe as conservatives regarding McCain.  That they can&#039;t unleash their usual dogs of personal destruction is obviously frustrating to them.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;re dropping N-bombs in their private conversations as often as Muffer says &quot;ya know&quot; in her non-scripted speaking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading comments elsewhere on the interweb make it obvious that the hatred of Obama by the Hill-shills is at least as severe as conservatives regarding McCain.  That they can&#8217;t unleash their usual dogs of personal destruction is obviously frustrating to them.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re dropping N-bombs in their private conversations as often as Muffer says &#8220;ya know&#8221; in her non-scripted speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Insufficiently Sensitive</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92423</link>
		<dc:creator>Insufficiently Sensitive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Clinton Machine: taking their ball and going home, until they run out of networks.

Amen to the end of dynastic political royalty.  Hillary&#039;s gang has become so entitled to playing the MSM like a piano that they can literally speak power to truth and purge incorrect reporters and commentators.

Retire Billary, and let Chelsea work for a living.  Maybe she&#039;ll reverse the parents&#039; trend.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Clinton Machine: taking their ball and going home, until they run out of networks.</p>
<p>Amen to the end of dynastic political royalty.  Hillary&#8217;s gang has become so entitled to playing the MSM like a piano that they can literally speak power to truth and purge incorrect reporters and commentators.</p>
<p>Retire Billary, and let Chelsea work for a living.  Maybe she&#8217;ll reverse the parents&#8217; trend.</p>
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		<title>By: miguelj</title>
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		<dc:creator>miguelj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two good wisecracks, Roger (or did you say them?):

--The Democrats are worried becasue they don&#039;t know enough about Obama. And because they know too much abaout the Clintons.

--If you elect a matinee idol as president, what you&#039;ll get will be a musical-comedy administration.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two good wisecracks, Roger (or did you say them?):</p>
<p>&#8211;The Democrats are worried becasue they don&#8217;t know enough about Obama. And because they know too much abaout the Clintons.</p>
<p>&#8211;If you elect a matinee idol as president, what you&#8217;ll get will be a musical-comedy administration.</p>
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		<title>By: ic</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92421</link>
		<dc:creator>ic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll never vote for Hillary. But the use of &quot;pimped out&quot; is disgusting. Reporters should study their thesaurus to memorize a few less offensive terms.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll never vote for Hillary. But the use of &#8220;pimped out&#8221; is disgusting. Reporters should study their thesaurus to memorize a few less offensive terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Hate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PMSNBC versus Clinton Inc?  Beer and popcorn time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PMSNBC versus Clinton Inc?  Beer and popcorn time.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Wolberg</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92419</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Wolberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this &quot;correct speech&quot; makes for some very dull reporting and writing, and takes all the fun and creativity out of the political season. It is certainly true that Clinton fatigue (and the same goes for Bush, Gore, Kennedy and all the worn campaign badges of yesterday. Ms Clinton is as boring a speaker as we have seen in many a day: trite and superficial promises to every special interest group. Let us hope she will soon be gone from the Presidential scene and back at her Senate seat. In truth, I suspect that if she is not the Democrat Party candidate, she will not seek reelection and will slide back into corporate law and perhaps Wal Mart again. Mr. Obama is fresh and new and gives a wonderful speec. Mr. McCain is, as he himself stated: &quot;As old as dirt with more scars than Frankenstein.&quot; Yet, I do look forward to a stimulating and delightful series of debates between the elequent but untried Mr. Obama, and the pugnacious and determined Mr. McCain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this &#8220;correct speech&#8221; makes for some very dull reporting and writing, and takes all the fun and creativity out of the political season. It is certainly true that Clinton fatigue (and the same goes for Bush, Gore, Kennedy and all the worn campaign badges of yesterday. Ms Clinton is as boring a speaker as we have seen in many a day: trite and superficial promises to every special interest group. Let us hope she will soon be gone from the Presidential scene and back at her Senate seat. In truth, I suspect that if she is not the Democrat Party candidate, she will not seek reelection and will slide back into corporate law and perhaps Wal Mart again. Mr. Obama is fresh and new and gives a wonderful speec. Mr. McCain is, as he himself stated: &#8220;As old as dirt with more scars than Frankenstein.&#8221; Yet, I do look forward to a stimulating and delightful series of debates between the elequent but untried Mr. Obama, and the pugnacious and determined Mr. McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Irons</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/08/whos-worse-msnbc-or-hillary-clinton/#comment-92418</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

We may have something in the pharmacopoeia for Obamaphobia.

;-)


Jamie Irons
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>We may have something in the pharmacopoeia for Obamaphobia.<br />
 <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jamie Irons</p>
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