Comments on: The Stockholm Syndrome and The Veil http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/ The blog of the mystery writer, screenwriter and CEO of Pajamas Media Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:35:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Buddy Larsen http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91096 Buddy Larsen Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:34:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91096 Western Big Feminism has been for "lowered consciousness" ever since the US armed forces freed the Taliban women. Western Big Feminism has been for “lowered consciousness” ever since the US armed forces freed the Taliban women.

]]> By: TheConfusedOne http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91095 TheConfusedOne Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:10:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91095 I noticed this comment: "The self control issue is apparent in other ways as well. Lapdances for the 9/11 bombers for example." I've read elsewhere that this was actually a way of ensuring that the hijackers wouldn't back out. By sullying themselves then they'd have to become martyrs to get back in the good graces and get their 72 grapes. Of course, that doesn't negate that fact that they were all a bunch of depraved maniacs... I noticed this comment:
“The self control issue is apparent in other ways as well. Lapdances for the 9/11 bombers for example.”

I’ve read elsewhere that this was actually a way of ensuring that the hijackers wouldn’t back out. By sullying themselves then they’d have to become martyrs to get back in the good graces and get their 72 grapes.

Of course, that doesn’t negate that fact that they were all a bunch of depraved maniacs…

]]> By: qrstuv http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91094 qrstuv Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:02:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91094 And slightly off topic, as a former feminist, I am PO'd by the left's tacit acceptance of the cats-meat defense. (Witness, for example, Germaine Greer's inability to speak out against the Sudanese custom of treating women like second-class citizens.) I wanna tell them, "Guys, you can be pro-equality or you can be multi-cultural, but you cannot be both at once." And slightly off topic, as a former feminist, I am PO’d by the left’s tacit acceptance of the cats-meat defense. (Witness, for example, Germaine Greer’s inability to speak out against the Sudanese custom of treating women like second-class citizens.)

I wanna tell them, “Guys, you can be pro-equality or you can be multi-cultural, but you cannot be both at once.”

]]> By: qrstuv http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91093 qrstuv Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:56:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91093 "I don't think the burqa/abayaa/chador is so much a symbol of oppression against women as it is an admission that islamic men have no self control and are willing to rape anyone at anytime." I think it is a *statement* that men are not required to exercise any self control when they see a female who doesn't follow the rules. It is a sort of statement of license in reverse. “I don’t think the burqa/abayaa/chador is so much a symbol of oppression against women as it is an admission that islamic men have no self control and are willing to rape anyone at anytime.”

I think it is a *statement* that men are not required to exercise any self control when they see a female who doesn’t follow the rules.

It is a sort of statement of license in reverse.

]]> By: rjschwarz http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91092 rjschwarz Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:48:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91092 Or, it might be a symbol of oppression for the same reasion. Nobody wants their property/wife raped by others. It's like a bike-lock or a car cover to protect your valuables from the rampaging hordes. Or, it might be a symbol of oppression for the same reasion. Nobody wants their property/wife raped by others. It’s like a bike-lock or a car cover to protect your valuables from the rampaging hordes.

]]> By: rjschwarz http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91091 rjschwarz Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:41:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91091 I don't think the burqa/abayaa/chador is so much a symbol of oppression against women as it is an admission that islamic men have no self control and are willing to rape anyone at anytime. This was a defense used by Islamic youths in Sydney and in Sweden and I have no reason to doubt them. The self control issue is apparent in other ways as well. Lapdances for the 9/11 bombers for example. The imposition of Shi'ra law is the only way many of them can control themselves because it removes any and all temptation. The civilized West, filled with temptation of every variety, is both tempting and hell on Earth. That is why the US is the Great Satan, Satan is the tempter. I don’t think the burqa/abayaa/chador is so much a symbol of oppression against women as it is an admission that islamic men have no self control and are willing to rape anyone at anytime. This was a defense used by Islamic youths in Sydney and in Sweden and I have no reason to doubt them. The self control issue is apparent in other ways as well. Lapdances for the 9/11 bombers for example.

The imposition of Shi’ra law is the only way many of them can control themselves because it removes any and all temptation. The civilized West, filled with temptation of every variety, is both tempting and hell on Earth. That is why the US is the Great Satan, Satan is the tempter.

]]> By: Lem http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91090 Lem Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:57:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91090 If you go on a blind date and she's wearing a burka How does it work? Is that what they mean by double blind test? At some restaurants a burka may be considered a fire hazard. i don't know If you go on a blind date and she’s wearing a burka

How does it work?

Is that what they mean by double blind test?

At some restaurants a burka may be considered a fire hazard.

i don’t know

]]> By: Lem http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91089 Lem Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:33:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91089 Its apparent Bush is not happy just water boarding. now they want to try burka boarding ;) Nobody safe anymore! Its apparent Bush is not happy just water boarding.

now they want to try burka boarding ;)

Nobody safe anymore!

]]> By: heather http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91088 heather Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:29:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91088 there are women who strongly support the Islamist ways, because they are winners in that particular lottery: they rule the household, they dominate other women in the household, and they dominate their sons. Until you are an old lady, powerful within the clan, your position is always weak. Therefore your reaction to your sister's or your daughter's violation of the Clan Laws will be exceptionally rigid and violent. As the Quran says, there can be no 'compassion' in these matters, they are dead serious. I would not be surprised to learn that the young Toronto girl murdered by her father and brother, for not wearing the niqab, was held down by her mother while the deed was done. there are women who strongly support the Islamist ways, because they are winners in that particular lottery: they rule the household, they dominate other women in the household, and they dominate their sons. Until you are an old lady, powerful within the clan, your position is always weak. Therefore your reaction to your sister’s or your daughter’s violation of the Clan Laws will be exceptionally rigid and violent. As the Quran says, there can be no ‘compassion’ in these matters, they are dead serious.

I would not be surprised to learn that the young Toronto girl murdered by her father and brother, for not wearing the niqab, was held down by her mother while the deed was done.

]]> By: Boojum http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91087 Boojum Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:10:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/the-stockholm-syndrome-and-the-veil/#comment-91087 I don't think the burqa/abayaa/chador is so much a symbol of oppression against women as it is indicative of cultures which see women's bodies as vile or indecent. I don’t think the burqa/abayaa/chador is so much a symbol of oppression against women as it is indicative of cultures which see women’s bodies as vile or indecent.

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