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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/10/01/gore-in-iraq/#comment-90094</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right Buddy. What was before merely criminal scandal will become a full blown power grab...the control of information through the fairness doctrine and the silencing of dissenting viewpoints, the control of civilization&#039;s lifeblood, energy, through the global warming carbon hoax, the control of our bodies through government healthcare, and the control of history and culture through government sanctioned politically corrected school curricula.

That&#039;s why I&#039;m horrified whenever I hear someone who is a non-moonbat suggest Hillary might be acceptable. Even if her foreign policy was muscular, and I am skeptical, her domestic agenda will drive a stake through the heart of America.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right Buddy. What was before merely criminal scandal will become a full blown power grab&#8230;the control of information through the fairness doctrine and the silencing of dissenting viewpoints, the control of civilization&#8217;s lifeblood, energy, through the global warming carbon hoax, the control of our bodies through government healthcare, and the control of history and culture through government sanctioned politically corrected school curricula.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m horrified whenever I hear someone who is a non-moonbat suggest Hillary might be acceptable. Even if her foreign policy was muscular, and I am skeptical, her domestic agenda will drive a stake through the heart of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/10/01/gore-in-iraq/#comment-90093</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Paul.  Just a few minutes ago I half-watched on CNBC a debate between a ban-smoking lobbyist and a small-biz defender who happens to also be economics editor of the WSJ. The ban-smoker&#039;s defense of his need to roll-back another freedom was mainly that the other guy works for &quot;right-wing ideologue Rupert Murdoch&quot;.

Pros/cons of individual liberty aside, it was striking just how these totalitarians actually see the world. This guy&#039;s reference to Murdoch was sneering, grinning, full of hatred and contempt. I think if it was legal--and he&#039;d make it so if he could--he&#039;d hang you for sparking up a Marlboro.

Under President Hillary, these birds will be everywhere, rampant, full of energy, coming after everybody hard.

The effect will be an invigorated Gramscian &quot;long march through the culture&quot; --which posits the final revolution as not a violent French Revolution-ish event at all, but rather a slow envelopment, which in the final phase requires a strong clique of &quot;closers&quot; at the top, who will become enabled whenever the masses have been sufficiently &lt;a href=&quot;http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/6362-Antonio-Gramsci-and-the-long-march-through-the-culture.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demoralized from the bottom up&lt;/a&gt;.

This demoralization effort went full-bore after the 2000 election--it&#039;s been infecting the nation as &quot;BDS&quot;. Currently the active local front is the Rush Limbaugh attack.

Put Hillary in the White House, and BDS will soon be a fond memory, because a redux Clinton means the previous Clinton scandal saturnalia will have been &quot;approved&quot; --and that you ain&#039;t seen nuthin yet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Paul.  Just a few minutes ago I half-watched on CNBC a debate between a ban-smoking lobbyist and a small-biz defender who happens to also be economics editor of the WSJ. The ban-smoker&#8217;s defense of his need to roll-back another freedom was mainly that the other guy works for &#8220;right-wing ideologue Rupert Murdoch&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pros/cons of individual liberty aside, it was striking just how these totalitarians actually see the world. This guy&#8217;s reference to Murdoch was sneering, grinning, full of hatred and contempt. I think if it was legal&#8211;and he&#8217;d make it so if he could&#8211;he&#8217;d hang you for sparking up a Marlboro.</p>
<p>Under President Hillary, these birds will be everywhere, rampant, full of energy, coming after everybody hard.</p>
<p>The effect will be an invigorated Gramscian &#8220;long march through the culture&#8221; &#8211;which posits the final revolution as not a violent French Revolution-ish event at all, but rather a slow envelopment, which in the final phase requires a strong clique of &#8220;closers&#8221; at the top, who will become enabled whenever the masses have been sufficiently <a href="http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/6362-Antonio-Gramsci-and-the-long-march-through-the-culture.html" rel="nofollow">demoralized from the bottom up</a>.</p>
<p>This demoralization effort went full-bore after the 2000 election&#8211;it&#8217;s been infecting the nation as &#8220;BDS&#8221;. Currently the active local front is the Rush Limbaugh attack.</p>
<p>Put Hillary in the White House, and BDS will soon be a fond memory, because a redux Clinton means the previous Clinton scandal saturnalia will have been &#8220;approved&#8221; &#8211;and that you ain&#8217;t seen nuthin yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/10/01/gore-in-iraq/#comment-90092</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between now and the WW2 era is the widely disseminated Gramscian influence, or cultural Marxism, that has become mainstream and convinced a sizable portion of the nation that America, capitalism, and even Western Civilization, are the true causes of all the world&#039;s ills.

An illuminating example can be found in comparing Hollywood&#039;s stance between then and now. Clark Gable vs. George Clooney sums it up nicely.

The only thing that stopped socialism from conquering the world in the 20th century was America&#039;s might and her contrasting example of life between the two systems. A Hillary victory will put the country in an irreversible slide towards a socialist state, with the attendant iron clad control over the flow of information and the politically correct revision of history. Already our schools, media, and entertainment industry are fully onboard with the Gramscian message and gnawing away at the foundation of America&#039;s original political structure. Every year more brainwashed young people are added to the electorate. On our present course we are doomed.

The Iraq war, and even the war against Islamofacism, are not the ultimate issues. The survival of the American system of individual rights and a check on government power vs. the concentration of power in the hands of elite socialist deciders, who can never match the vast repositories of wisdom found in our evolved culture and in free markets and consequently will inevitably lead us to a totalitarian dystopia, is the real battle.

We are certainly powerful enough to win any global conflict, but not if our own citizens are brainwashed into despising America and traditional American values. We&#039;ve lost the schools so how long before the majority of the electorate reaches the tipping point of no return?

To believe that it won&#039;t matter if Hillary wins is the absolute pinnacle of naive folly.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between now and the WW2 era is the widely disseminated Gramscian influence, or cultural Marxism, that has become mainstream and convinced a sizable portion of the nation that America, capitalism, and even Western Civilization, are the true causes of all the world&#8217;s ills.</p>
<p>An illuminating example can be found in comparing Hollywood&#8217;s stance between then and now. Clark Gable vs. George Clooney sums it up nicely.</p>
<p>The only thing that stopped socialism from conquering the world in the 20th century was America&#8217;s might and her contrasting example of life between the two systems. A Hillary victory will put the country in an irreversible slide towards a socialist state, with the attendant iron clad control over the flow of information and the politically correct revision of history. Already our schools, media, and entertainment industry are fully onboard with the Gramscian message and gnawing away at the foundation of America&#8217;s original political structure. Every year more brainwashed young people are added to the electorate. On our present course we are doomed.</p>
<p>The Iraq war, and even the war against Islamofacism, are not the ultimate issues. The survival of the American system of individual rights and a check on government power vs. the concentration of power in the hands of elite socialist deciders, who can never match the vast repositories of wisdom found in our evolved culture and in free markets and consequently will inevitably lead us to a totalitarian dystopia, is the real battle.</p>
<p>We are certainly powerful enough to win any global conflict, but not if our own citizens are brainwashed into despising America and traditional American values. We&#8217;ve lost the schools so how long before the majority of the electorate reaches the tipping point of no return?</p>
<p>To believe that it won&#8217;t matter if Hillary wins is the absolute pinnacle of naive folly.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFK said &quot;perception is reality&quot;. I wish he&#039;d added, &quot;...but so is reality.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFK said &#8220;perception is reality&#8221;. I wish he&#8217;d added, &#8220;&#8230;but so is reality.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Dauphin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Dauphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely it matters who sits in the White House (and elsewhere) or why vote? One of my concerns as the Hillary train chugs along is the penchant the Clintons have for promoting appearances over underlying actions. They care deeply about how things look, and less about what&#039;s happening.

Although Rummy is on the outs these days, he had a useful observation of his conversation with Clinton officials when WJC was president. He indicated that they expressed concern upon concern about how it would look to the allies if we did such and such an act, but they expressed no overt interest in whether they were actually making the US safer. Appearances counted more than anything else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely it matters who sits in the White House (and elsewhere) or why vote? One of my concerns as the Hillary train chugs along is the penchant the Clintons have for promoting appearances over underlying actions. They care deeply about how things look, and less about what&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>Although Rummy is on the outs these days, he had a useful observation of his conversation with Clinton officials when WJC was president. He indicated that they expressed concern upon concern about how it would look to the allies if we did such and such an act, but they expressed no overt interest in whether they were actually making the US safer. Appearances counted more than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always liked this quote from William Morris:

&quot;Men fight and lose the battle, and the thing they fought for comes about in spite of their defeat, and when it comes out not to be what they mean, other men have to fight for what they meant under another name.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always liked this quote from William Morris:</p>
<p>&#8220;Men fight and lose the battle, and the thing they fought for comes about in spite of their defeat, and when it comes out not to be what they mean, other men have to fight for what they meant under another name.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AlanC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I basically agree with reliapundit on the topic. But, the thread I find interesting is the one about individuals making a difference.

The idea that Hegelian determinism is correct baffles me. In every human activity that we see, we see that the &quot;who&quot; is important.

Sports provides a simple example that makes this point. Last year the SD Chargers went 14-2, this year the same players are already 1-3. Did the change in coaches make a difference?

Bum Phillips summed it up when speaking of Don Shula.....&quot;He can take hisn&#039; and beat yourn&#039;; or he can take yourn&#039; and beat hisn&#039;.&quot;

People matter. Events, beyond a president&#039;s immediate control, drive questions that have to be answered, but, people decide on the answers and their choices matter.


&quot;Two roads diverged in a yellow wood.....&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I basically agree with reliapundit on the topic. But, the thread I find interesting is the one about individuals making a difference.</p>
<p>The idea that Hegelian determinism is correct baffles me. In every human activity that we see, we see that the &#8220;who&#8221; is important.</p>
<p>Sports provides a simple example that makes this point. Last year the SD Chargers went 14-2, this year the same players are already 1-3. Did the change in coaches make a difference?</p>
<p>Bum Phillips summed it up when speaking of Don Shula&#8230;..&#8221;He can take hisn&#8217; and beat yourn&#8217;; or he can take yourn&#8217; and beat hisn&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>People matter. Events, beyond a president&#8217;s immediate control, drive questions that have to be answered, but, people decide on the answers and their choices matter.</p>
<p>&#8220;Two roads diverged in a yellow wood&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Always right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with DT.  Lots of things changed since the WWII era, the following generations have different internal fortitude now.   Most damaging is the softening (feminizing) the whole population for how many years now?  Theyíve (myself included) been drilled since birth that negotiation and making compromises are the keys to everything.  Training in rational thinking and logical deduction is deemphasized, ìto search your inner feelingsî is the replacement.

So what happens in an unexpected crisis?  There is no sign that most on the left would eventually wake up.  The only sign I saw is that they will bide their time when majority view is unfavorable to their agenda (i.e. immediately post-9/11).

To indulge in wishful thinking that dems in charge would have responded similarly as what really happened is the same foolishness (&quot;romanticism&quot;) as negotiating peace with hamas or al qaeda.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with DT.  Lots of things changed since the WWII era, the following generations have different internal fortitude now.   Most damaging is the softening (feminizing) the whole population for how many years now?  Theyíve (myself included) been drilled since birth that negotiation and making compromises are the keys to everything.  Training in rational thinking and logical deduction is deemphasized, ìto search your inner feelingsî is the replacement.</p>
<p>So what happens in an unexpected crisis?  There is no sign that most on the left would eventually wake up.  The only sign I saw is that they will bide their time when majority view is unfavorable to their agenda (i.e. immediately post-9/11).</p>
<p>To indulge in wishful thinking that dems in charge would have responded similarly as what really happened is the same foolishness (&#8220;romanticism&#8221;) as negotiating peace with hamas or al qaeda.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may behoove Roger L. Simon to find out what Mickey Kaus is trying to say about him:

&quot;P.P.S.: My biggest problem with Hollywood is the dominance of emotional old-style liberals. My second biggest problem with Hollywood is that the opposition to these liberals tends to be equally passionate people, like Breitbart or Roger Simon, who see themselves as warriors in a generational battle against radical Islam that to my mind will be won most efficiently--or defused, which is the same thing--if prosecuted coolly and calmly, with appropriate attention to &quot;blowback.&quot; Conservatives in Hollywood are an oppressed minority; Centrist Dems in Hollywood are a nonexistent minority. (OK, I know one.) ... 5:39 P.M.&quot;

Oct. 1, 2007 Slate.com

Is Kaus subtly hinting that Simon is something of a war monger?  His remarks are confusing.  Kaus has some explaining to do.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may behoove Roger L. Simon to find out what Mickey Kaus is trying to say about him:</p>
<p>&#8220;P.P.S.: My biggest problem with Hollywood is the dominance of emotional old-style liberals. My second biggest problem with Hollywood is that the opposition to these liberals tends to be equally passionate people, like Breitbart or Roger Simon, who see themselves as warriors in a generational battle against radical Islam that to my mind will be won most efficiently&#8211;or defused, which is the same thing&#8211;if prosecuted coolly and calmly, with appropriate attention to &#8220;blowback.&#8221; Conservatives in Hollywood are an oppressed minority; Centrist Dems in Hollywood are a nonexistent minority. (OK, I know one.) &#8230; 5:39 P.M.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oct. 1, 2007 Slate.com</p>
<p>Is Kaus subtly hinting that Simon is something of a war monger?  His remarks are confusing.  Kaus has some explaining to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Dauphin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that in WWII most people sensed an existential fear that only half or less sense now. The greatest generation pulled together in extraordinary times, but not all times are extraordinary, and extraordinary folks can struggle when life returns to &quot;normal&quot;.

Quite frankly many of them left a part of themselves elsewhere and were not &quot;here&quot; all the way. The reasons for the next gen rebellion weren&#039;t all bad, nor were they all good. The boomer generation has its virtues, but too many think that having virtues means having no vice. We should wish that the times really were better, although they are not so horrible considering they potential dangers. Although the events of history have a certain force, not every occupant of the White House will do the same thing. And it makes a difference who sits in there.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that in WWII most people sensed an existential fear that only half or less sense now. The greatest generation pulled together in extraordinary times, but not all times are extraordinary, and extraordinary folks can struggle when life returns to &#8220;normal&#8221;.</p>
<p>Quite frankly many of them left a part of themselves elsewhere and were not &#8220;here&#8221; all the way. The reasons for the next gen rebellion weren&#8217;t all bad, nor were they all good. The boomer generation has its virtues, but too many think that having virtues means having no vice. We should wish that the times really were better, although they are not so horrible considering they potential dangers. Although the events of history have a certain force, not every occupant of the White House will do the same thing. And it makes a difference who sits in there.</p>
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