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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/04/03/what-nancy-saw/#comment-86437</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take back the (a)--the mention of an attempted &quot;shadow government&quot; does allude to that institutional attack. But the (b) is still valid, imho.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take back the (a)&#8211;the mention of an attempted &#8220;shadow government&#8221; does allude to that institutional attack. But the (b) is still valid, imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/04/03/what-nancy-saw/#comment-86436</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WaPo statement is rightly critical, but only on the grounds of the stupidity of the Speaker&#039;s sweeping--and wrong--statements.

I hate to be critical of the critique, but the &quot;isn&#039;t she silly?&quot; proposition does a neat cover-up of the deeper possibilty that she might know exactly she&#039;s doing, which is (a) to make  progress in the long-term undermining of the governmental institutions of the Republic, while (b) striving mightily to insure the defeat of OIF (which amounts to avoiding the political defeat of her own anti-war, anti-Bush faction).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WaPo statement is rightly critical, but only on the grounds of the stupidity of the Speaker&#8217;s sweeping&#8211;and wrong&#8211;statements.</p>
<p>I hate to be critical of the critique, but the &#8220;isn&#8217;t she silly?&#8221; proposition does a neat cover-up of the deeper possibilty that she might know exactly she&#8217;s doing, which is (a) to make  progress in the long-term undermining of the governmental institutions of the Republic, while (b) striving mightily to insure the defeat of OIF (which amounts to avoiding the political defeat of her own anti-war, anti-Bush faction).</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye:

It&#039;s a simple fact that 1st-term Congress Critters just do as they are told by the bosses in their party (does not matter which party). So, Mr. Ellsworth is very likely simply following orders.

Unexpectedly, today&#039;s Washington Post has blistering editorial deeply criticizing Pelosi for her trip to Syria, going so far as to refer to her trip as &quot;...an attempt to establish a shadow presidency...&quot;.

The editorial is at the link below:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402306.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a simple fact that 1st-term Congress Critters just do as they are told by the bosses in their party (does not matter which party). So, Mr. Ellsworth is very likely simply following orders.</p>
<p>Unexpectedly, today&#8217;s Washington Post has blistering editorial deeply criticizing Pelosi for her trip to Syria, going so far as to refer to her trip as &#8220;&#8230;an attempt to establish a shadow presidency&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>The editorial is at the link below:<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402306.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402306.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think something else is worth considering here as well.

In my district here in Indiana, Brad Ellsworth ran and won on a very conservative ticket. He maybe a Democrat, but he is prolife, anti amnesty, pro military, anti cut and run etc. The man is more conservative than I am and his one nod to populism was that when he got to Washington he was going to bring down the price of gas for all us working people, by God by gum.

Well so far, he has not kept one single promise and the locals have seen that their support for him has accomplished nothing other than nonstop antics, show trials and pandering the enemy by a power mad Grandma Pelosi.

As a womwn I am ashamed that the first woman Speaker would put that damn scarf on her head and go pander to a bunch of antiAmerican, anti democratic murdering thugs...but I wonder what effect it will have on the blue dogs..who have to live with her antics.

That election might have been meant to bring the country back to the center, away from the right. But Ms. Pelosi has made it plain that we went right past the Center to the left without even slowing down. I wonder if this will hurt or help the Democrats in the long run?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think something else is worth considering here as well.</p>
<p>In my district here in Indiana, Brad Ellsworth ran and won on a very conservative ticket. He maybe a Democrat, but he is prolife, anti amnesty, pro military, anti cut and run etc. The man is more conservative than I am and his one nod to populism was that when he got to Washington he was going to bring down the price of gas for all us working people, by God by gum.</p>
<p>Well so far, he has not kept one single promise and the locals have seen that their support for him has accomplished nothing other than nonstop antics, show trials and pandering the enemy by a power mad Grandma Pelosi.</p>
<p>As a womwn I am ashamed that the first woman Speaker would put that damn scarf on her head and go pander to a bunch of antiAmerican, anti democratic murdering thugs&#8230;but I wonder what effect it will have on the blue dogs..who have to live with her antics.</p>
<p>That election might have been meant to bring the country back to the center, away from the right. But Ms. Pelosi has made it plain that we went right past the Center to the left without even slowing down. I wonder if this will hurt or help the Democrats in the long run?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine, the GOP Congressmen should not have gone either, but then again, they did not tell Bush to calm down, threaten to impeach him and promise to suck up to the enemy either.

I bet the jiahadis are getting a real kick out of this. hardy har har.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine, the GOP Congressmen should not have gone either, but then again, they did not tell Bush to calm down, threaten to impeach him and promise to suck up to the enemy either.</p>
<p>I bet the jiahadis are getting a real kick out of this. hardy har har.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IOW, even &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; the damage done by the visit itself turns out luckily to be small, it is the implication--that the American establishment has gone off sort of like Ash the robot in &quot;Alien&quot;, and is giving up advantage and position for no gain other than mindlessly executing a hard-wired &quot;bring down Bush&quot; program--that will still be huge.

And again, &#039;huge&#039; &lt;i&gt;most of all&lt;/i&gt; for those allies &amp; countrymen who live and fight in the &#039;hood and who &lt;i&gt;already&lt;/i&gt; had their necks stuck out plenty far enough.

Some &#039;support&#039;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IOW, even <i>if</i> the damage done by the visit itself turns out luckily to be small, it is the implication&#8211;that the American establishment has gone off sort of like Ash the robot in &#8220;Alien&#8221;, and is giving up advantage and position for no gain other than mindlessly executing a hard-wired &#8220;bring down Bush&#8221; program&#8211;that will still be huge.</p>
<p>And again, &#8216;huge&#8217; <i>most of all</i> for those allies &amp; countrymen who live and fight in the &#8216;hood and who <i>already</i> had their necks stuck out plenty far enough.</p>
<p>Some &#8216;support&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point, Dan, but a small one in the scheme of things.

Far more important is that with the growing aggressive congressional &quot;oversight&quot; of every possible executive initiative, and the concomitant appearance--if not the reality--of Assad now having an ear in those high councils, our allies throughout Araby now have one more worry, and one more reason to avoid total commitment to the vision of a post-jihad future.

Conversely, the Baathists of Syria now have some degree of less worry about overstepping their Hezbollah play for control of Lebanon, and some degree of less worry about the democratization of Iraq.

It&#039;s a chess game, and a kibbitzer has just reached into our side of the board and carelessly, seemingly just for the hell of it, sacrificed at least a pawn or two, if not more.

And for what?  Because the little Leninists on her staff egged her on? Egged her on to &quot;show that Bush/Cheney a thing or two&quot; ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point, Dan, but a small one in the scheme of things.</p>
<p>Far more important is that with the growing aggressive congressional &#8220;oversight&#8221; of every possible executive initiative, and the concomitant appearance&#8211;if not the reality&#8211;of Assad now having an ear in those high councils, our allies throughout Araby now have one more worry, and one more reason to avoid total commitment to the vision of a post-jihad future.</p>
<p>Conversely, the Baathists of Syria now have some degree of less worry about overstepping their Hezbollah play for control of Lebanon, and some degree of less worry about the democratization of Iraq.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a chess game, and a kibbitzer has just reached into our side of the board and carelessly, seemingly just for the hell of it, sacrificed at least a pawn or two, if not more.</p>
<p>And for what?  Because the little Leninists on her staff egged her on? Egged her on to &#8220;show that Bush/Cheney a thing or two&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Panorama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Panorama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To underscore how clueless Nancy is, she does not comprehend that women are whale sh#t in the eyes of Assad and his ilk. Her being there is just another sign of American weakness and wickedness to them. Maybe genital mutilation will open her eyes?&quot;

I know this is easy to say - but think about it for a minute and ask yourself how much you or GWB really mean it. Do you really mean that we should not have relations with anywhere that is actively anti-women legally or culturally? Or that engages in barbaric rituals? If that were even remotely the justification for Nancy Pelosi not going to Syria why do have ANY relations at all with Saudi Arabia which is far worse in regards to women? Should we criticize politicians for going to Pakistan, another of our supposed allies? How about China, where female infanticide is through the roof? You mention genital mutilation - horrifying yes, but should we have no more contact with African nations in which this is practiced? You see how this logic takes one further and further into total isolation to crippling levels.

Now I understand that Syria is ruled by despotic thugs at best and that there is a serious case to be made for isolating them - but the feminist argument is just not a reasonable one in this regard. We don&#039;t get to negotiate with only the most enlightened countries, that&#039;s unfortunately not how diplomacy works. As the old saying goes &quot;you don&#039;t make peace with your friends...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To underscore how clueless Nancy is, she does not comprehend that women are whale sh#t in the eyes of Assad and his ilk. Her being there is just another sign of American weakness and wickedness to them. Maybe genital mutilation will open her eyes?&#8221;</p>
<p>I know this is easy to say &#8211; but think about it for a minute and ask yourself how much you or GWB really mean it. Do you really mean that we should not have relations with anywhere that is actively anti-women legally or culturally? Or that engages in barbaric rituals? If that were even remotely the justification for Nancy Pelosi not going to Syria why do have ANY relations at all with Saudi Arabia which is far worse in regards to women? Should we criticize politicians for going to Pakistan, another of our supposed allies? How about China, where female infanticide is through the roof? You mention genital mutilation &#8211; horrifying yes, but should we have no more contact with African nations in which this is practiced? You see how this logic takes one further and further into total isolation to crippling levels.</p>
<p>Now I understand that Syria is ruled by despotic thugs at best and that there is a serious case to be made for isolating them &#8211; but the feminist argument is just not a reasonable one in this regard. We don&#8217;t get to negotiate with only the most enlightened countries, that&#8217;s unfortunately not how diplomacy works. As the old saying goes &#8220;you don&#8217;t make peace with your friends&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is odd to me is Rep.Tom Lantos is no fool. Why would he attach himself to this three ring circus? Is he losing it? He of all people is not fooled by Syrian duplicity, why now? Even among my democratic friends they see Pelosi&#039;s hotdogging as a bad move and one that can easily boomerang on the next (supposed) democratic presidency.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is odd to me is Rep.Tom Lantos is no fool. Why would he attach himself to this three ring circus? Is he losing it? He of all people is not fooled by Syrian duplicity, why now? Even among my democratic friends they see Pelosi&#8217;s hotdogging as a bad move and one that can easily boomerang on the next (supposed) democratic presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: LALEO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LALEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trip and its repercussions is best summarized in piece by Michael Young in Lebanon&#039;s &lt;a&gt;Daily Star:&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trip and its repercussions is best summarized in piece by Michael Young in Lebanon&#8217;s <a>Daily Star:</a></p>
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