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	<title>Comments on: Something &#8220;new&#8221; from Assad/ something &#8220;old&#8221; from Hillary</title>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85176</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary is very much like John Kerry. She will say and do whatever she thinks will work. There are no core values except promotion of her ambitions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary is very much like John Kerry. She will say and do whatever she thinks will work. There are no core values except promotion of her ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85175</link>
		<dc:creator>AlanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread and the next one about McCain and abortion highlight, for me, the worst aspect of current politics.

Using Hillary as an example, given her shifting and conflicting statements on the WoT how do you have any confidence that you know what she really believes and would do in office?

Principles matter, THAT&#039;s what I vote on. Why? Because you never know what the challenges of the future will be, so, you have to vote for someone who you believe will react well (according to your definition) to the unforseen.

I voted for GWB in 2000 because his character and displayed principles led me to believe he would be the better choice if the doo doo hit the fan.

I didn&#039;t forsee 9/11, but I&#039;m damn glad we didn&#039;t have Al Gore in the White House.

What are Hillaries principles? What has she demonstrated of her character?

To me she, as well as many others, comes across as an amoral, power hungry pol who can not be counted on to react in any way other that the way which improves her personal power and position.

Find me a person of character and principles that they will run on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread and the next one about McCain and abortion highlight, for me, the worst aspect of current politics.</p>
<p>Using Hillary as an example, given her shifting and conflicting statements on the WoT how do you have any confidence that you know what she really believes and would do in office?</p>
<p>Principles matter, THAT&#8217;s what I vote on. Why? Because you never know what the challenges of the future will be, so, you have to vote for someone who you believe will react well (according to your definition) to the unforseen.</p>
<p>I voted for GWB in 2000 because his character and displayed principles led me to believe he would be the better choice if the doo doo hit the fan.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t forsee 9/11, but I&#8217;m damn glad we didn&#8217;t have Al Gore in the White House.</p>
<p>What are Hillaries principles? What has she demonstrated of her character?</p>
<p>To me she, as well as many others, comes across as an amoral, power hungry pol who can not be counted on to react in any way other that the way which improves her personal power and position.</p>
<p>Find me a person of character and principles that they will run on.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85174</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Totten,

Thank you for the clarification. I re-read your initial post and noted you used the word silly to describe Hillary&#039;s anti-war stance.

I don&#039;t understand, however, why you would sympathize with someone who is emboldening the enemy or (as you think)saying things she doesn&#039;t really believe on the most important issue of the day.

You are obviously more generous than me. I&#039;ll reserve my sympathy for those fighting the enemy with this kind of support.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Totten,</p>
<p>Thank you for the clarification. I re-read your initial post and noted you used the word silly to describe Hillary&#8217;s anti-war stance.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand, however, why you would sympathize with someone who is emboldening the enemy or (as you think)saying things she doesn&#8217;t really believe on the most important issue of the day.</p>
<p>You are obviously more generous than me. I&#8217;ll reserve my sympathy for those fighting the enemy with this kind of support.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Totten</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85173</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. Totten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry Gain: &lt;i&gt;It&#039;s beyond my comprehension, Michael Totten, how anyone who claims to understand the importance of winning in Iraq would be taking positions-deadlines for withdrawal- that embolden the enemy.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t support withdrawal at all and never said I did. I also don&#039;t agree with Hillary Clinton.

&lt;i&gt;So Michael Totten your support for Hillary is incoherent but nice job on Juan Cole in your latest post on your blog. &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t &quot;support&quot; Hillary Clinton, I sympathize with her predicament and think she should pick her battles very carefully or the netroots will destroy her. I don&#039;t like the situation. It just is.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry Gain: <i>It&#8217;s beyond my comprehension, Michael Totten, how anyone who claims to understand the importance of winning in Iraq would be taking positions-deadlines for withdrawal- that embolden the enemy.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t support withdrawal at all and never said I did. I also don&#8217;t agree with Hillary Clinton.</p>
<p><i>So Michael Totten your support for Hillary is incoherent but nice job on Juan Cole in your latest post on your blog. </i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t &#8220;support&#8221; Hillary Clinton, I sympathize with her predicament and think she should pick her battles very carefully or the netroots will destroy her. I don&#8217;t like the situation. It just is.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85172</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I like and respect Soldier&#039;s Dad there is a world of difference between demanding the commencement of withdrawal in 90 days -regardless of the situation on the ground -and being able to begin withdrawal in 90 days because the surge is working.

And, given that she opposes the surge and is demanding unconditional withdrawal, the astute voter will not let her get away with saying she was right all along.

Soldier&#039;s Dad,  you know a lot more about this than I do, but, don&#039;t you think 90 days is somewhat optimistic?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I like and respect Soldier&#8217;s Dad there is a world of difference between demanding the commencement of withdrawal in 90 days -regardless of the situation on the ground -and being able to begin withdrawal in 90 days because the surge is working.</p>
<p>And, given that she opposes the surge and is demanding unconditional withdrawal, the astute voter will not let her get away with saying she was right all along.</p>
<p>Soldier&#8217;s Dad,  you know a lot more about this than I do, but, don&#8217;t you think 90 days is somewhat optimistic?</p>
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		<title>By: Soldier's Dad</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85171</link>
		<dc:creator>Soldier's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peak deployments will occur in roughly 60-90 days.

Then the 34th ID&#039;s 120 day extension will expire and the numbers of troops deployed will begin to drop.

In Baghdad we have Clearing Forces, Embedded Joint Security Forces(holding forces), Quick Reaction Forces and Mitt&#039;s.

One would think that once the Clearing has been done, and the &quot;Holding Forces&quot; are in place, one wouldn&#039;t need the &quot;Clearing Forces&quot; anymore.

A thorough &quot;Spring Cleaning&quot; is a lot of work, but maintaining the house after it has been thoroughly cleaned is no where near as difficult.

As much as I dislike the Hildebeast, and her pal Mouth Murtha, I doubt they are very far off the mark of what will happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peak deployments will occur in roughly 60-90 days.</p>
<p>Then the 34th ID&#8217;s 120 day extension will expire and the numbers of troops deployed will begin to drop.</p>
<p>In Baghdad we have Clearing Forces, Embedded Joint Security Forces(holding forces), Quick Reaction Forces and Mitt&#8217;s.</p>
<p>One would think that once the Clearing has been done, and the &#8220;Holding Forces&#8221; are in place, one wouldn&#8217;t need the &#8220;Clearing Forces&#8221; anymore.</p>
<p>A thorough &#8220;Spring Cleaning&#8221; is a lot of work, but maintaining the house after it has been thoroughly cleaned is no where near as difficult.</p>
<p>As much as I dislike the Hildebeast, and her pal Mouth Murtha, I doubt they are very far off the mark of what will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85170</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..does that sound close enough to a withdrawal/phased redeployment to make her look pretty darn good to most Americans?

No. It will only imprress those who don&#039;t understand that what happens in U.S. politics and MSM generated public opinion affects the insurgency.

By demanding withdrawal she is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Sasha, all of us would look good if we had the virtually unquestioming support of the major media.

I repeat, if the surge is successful, Hillary&#039;s toast.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..does that sound close enough to a withdrawal/phased redeployment to make her look pretty darn good to most Americans?</p>
<p>No. It will only imprress those who don&#8217;t understand that what happens in U.S. politics and MSM generated public opinion affects the insurgency.</p>
<p>By demanding withdrawal she is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.</p>
<p>Sasha, all of us would look good if we had the virtually unquestioming support of the major media.</p>
<p>I repeat, if the surge is successful, Hillary&#8217;s toast.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85169</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#8217;ve learned never to underestimate the craftiness of Hillary and Bill. That 90-day withdrawal/phased redeployment (the two terms are more and more used interchangeably) statement of hers may have something to do with a &#8220;secret&#8221; 11-point plan for success in Iraq posted on this Web site http://patdollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/ (via Instapundit): &#8220;This is the 11 point plan that the men in charge of U.S. Victory in Iraq have submitted to The White House, The Pentagon and the State Department, and which will serve as the blueprint for victory in Iraq. It has been brought to me and confirmed by sources both inside and outside of the Military.&#8221;

Here&#8217;s point 1 of the plan:

1. U.S. troops are to be gradually pulled back from all Iraqi cities and towns and sent to seal the borders with Iran and Syria. The real insurgency is not indigenous to Iraq, but being pumped in through Iran and Syria.

If this plan is for real -- and Hillary knows about it  -- does that sound close enough to a withdrawal/phased redeployment to make her look pretty darn good to most Americans? Other than the Kos crowd, of course.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve learned never to underestimate the craftiness of Hillary and Bill. That 90-day withdrawal/phased redeployment (the two terms are more and more used interchangeably) statement of hers may have something to do with a &#8220;secret&#8221; 11-point plan for success in Iraq posted on this Web site <a href="http://patdollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/" rel="nofollow">http://patdollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/</a> (via Instapundit): &#8220;This is the 11 point plan that the men in charge of U.S. Victory in Iraq have submitted to The White House, The Pentagon and the State Department, and which will serve as the blueprint for victory in Iraq. It has been brought to me and confirmed by sources both inside and outside of the Military.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s point 1 of the plan:</p>
<p>1. U.S. troops are to be gradually pulled back from all Iraqi cities and towns and sent to seal the borders with Iran and Syria. The real insurgency is not indigenous to Iraq, but being pumped in through Iran and Syria.</p>
<p>If this plan is for real &#8212; and Hillary knows about it  &#8212; does that sound close enough to a withdrawal/phased redeployment to make her look pretty darn good to most Americans? Other than the Kos crowd, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85168</link>
		<dc:creator>jedrury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This maneuvering is so ephemeral, so tactical. All but meaningless but ... Hillary gained some mileage with the centrist middle by standing her ground on &quot;no apology&quot; refusing to buckle under
to the cries of the left. Now, she apparently reacts to the Obama shift. The Murtha move on surge appropriations will affect this campaign for her wooing of the left and the ultimate reaction of the mainstream voter and give patent lie to the Pelosi claim that &quot;I support the troops.&quot;   There is a lot happening; this Administration will not go quietly into the night of 2008 without staking out a position to recast the shifting face of American political landscape.

Let Hillary shift and dance and trot; by the election,  she will be so caught up in her various positions she may well find herself twisting in the image of the ultimate flip flopper: Lieutenant John Kerry &quot;reporting for duty.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This maneuvering is so ephemeral, so tactical. All but meaningless but &#8230; Hillary gained some mileage with the centrist middle by standing her ground on &#8220;no apology&#8221; refusing to buckle under<br />
to the cries of the left. Now, she apparently reacts to the Obama shift. The Murtha move on surge appropriations will affect this campaign for her wooing of the left and the ultimate reaction of the mainstream voter and give patent lie to the Pelosi claim that &#8220;I support the troops.&#8221;   There is a lot happening; this Administration will not go quietly into the night of 2008 without staking out a position to recast the shifting face of American political landscape.</p>
<p>Let Hillary shift and dance and trot; by the election,  she will be so caught up in her various positions she may well find herself twisting in the image of the ultimate flip flopper: Lieutenant John Kerry &#8220;reporting for duty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/02/18/something-new-from-assad-something-old-from-hillary/#comment-85167</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Gain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My point is that being anti-war in order to pick up the nomination will make it possible for her to be a more aggressive nominee later. If she&#039;s hawkish now she&#039;ll lose and we&#039;ll be stuck with Obama as the nominee instead.&quot;-Michael Totten

Hawkish about what? The next big test is preventing Iran from developing nukes. If she doesn&#039;t have the skill or courage to lead her party to finish the mission in  Iraq of what possible use is she going to be as President?

It&#039;s beyond my comprehension, Michael Totten, how anyone who claims to understand the importance of winning in Iraq would be taking positions-deadlines for withdrawal- that embolden the enemy.

And it&#039;s not even smart politics. If the surge fails there is plenty of time for her to propose another course. If the surge works Hillary&#039;s toast (and deservedly so) whether or not she&#039;s the Democrat nominee. If she were smart she would be supporrting the surge while telling everyone it would not even  be necessary if she had been in charge the last four years.

She thinks the public is too stupid to remember her support for this war - right up to the point when the Iraqis  really stepped up, as they are now doing.

So Michael Totten  your support for Hillary is incoherent but nice job on Juan Cole in your latest post on your blog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My point is that being anti-war in order to pick up the nomination will make it possible for her to be a more aggressive nominee later. If she&#8217;s hawkish now she&#8217;ll lose and we&#8217;ll be stuck with Obama as the nominee instead.&#8221;-Michael Totten</p>
<p>Hawkish about what? The next big test is preventing Iran from developing nukes. If she doesn&#8217;t have the skill or courage to lead her party to finish the mission in  Iraq of what possible use is she going to be as President?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s beyond my comprehension, Michael Totten, how anyone who claims to understand the importance of winning in Iraq would be taking positions-deadlines for withdrawal- that embolden the enemy.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not even smart politics. If the surge fails there is plenty of time for her to propose another course. If the surge works Hillary&#8217;s toast (and deservedly so) whether or not she&#8217;s the Democrat nominee. If she were smart she would be supporrting the surge while telling everyone it would not even  be necessary if she had been in charge the last four years.</p>
<p>She thinks the public is too stupid to remember her support for this war &#8211; right up to the point when the Iraqis  really stepped up, as they are now doing.</p>
<p>So Michael Totten  your support for Hillary is incoherent but nice job on Juan Cole in your latest post on your blog.</p>
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