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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/12/29/taxi-driving-in-seattle/#comment-83987</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cold grey light of the nether lands
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		<title>By: WichitaBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WichitaBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Wonder why the Dutch would accept the door clanging shut on any future say in their future governance?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&#039;Cause they&#039;re tired of living and have a death wish?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Wonder why the Dutch would accept the door clanging shut on any future say in their future governance?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8216;Cause they&#8217;re tired of living and have a death wish?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/12/29/taxi-driving-in-seattle/#comment-83985</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to indulge a bit of academic absurdity, can a democracy vote itself out of existence? That&#039;s what happened in 1933 Germany, and electing Sharia--unless Sharia changes, ha!--means, forget about voting it out of office, ever.

Democracy&#039;s second derivative is changing government. In Iran, a candidate-approval process is run by the mullahs--the mullahs say who you can freely elect or not. Some democracy.

Wonder why the Dutch would accept the door clanging shut on any future say in their future governance?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to indulge a bit of academic absurdity, can a democracy vote itself out of existence? That&#8217;s what happened in 1933 Germany, and electing Sharia&#8211;unless Sharia changes, ha!&#8211;means, forget about voting it out of office, ever.</p>
<p>Democracy&#8217;s second derivative is changing government. In Iran, a candidate-approval process is run by the mullahs&#8211;the mullahs say who you can freely elect or not. Some democracy.</p>
<p>Wonder why the Dutch would accept the door clanging shut on any future say in their future governance?</p>
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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/12/29/taxi-driving-in-seattle/#comment-83984</link>
		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly it is a numbers game as the Dutch official admitted some time back - if 2/3rd of the people in Holland want sharia law, then the democratic thing to do is to give them sharia law.  But it also can be abetted by the collapse of the elites in advance of the demographic tipping point being reached, if the elites despise the values the rest of us live by.  That only exacerbates the process.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly it is a numbers game as the Dutch official admitted some time back &#8211; if 2/3rd of the people in Holland want sharia law, then the democratic thing to do is to give them sharia law.  But it also can be abetted by the collapse of the elites in advance of the demographic tipping point being reached, if the elites despise the values the rest of us live by.  That only exacerbates the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WB, right--it&#039;s a numbers game. I was thinking of France, where obviously under 10% did little to mithridate the French, who are now learning that some sort of tipping point happens around 10%. By the time they realized they were in trouble at all, they were already in deep trouble indeed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WB, right&#8211;it&#8217;s a numbers game. I was thinking of France, where obviously under 10% did little to mithridate the French, who are now learning that some sort of tipping point happens around 10%. By the time they realized they were in trouble at all, they were already in deep trouble indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WichitaBoy:

Your prescription would work only if all the people affected reacted in the same way - and if they all agreed on the superiority of what you and I would call Western values.  But if they or their elites don&#039;t admire those values, or if they have spent their lives in opposition to those values, then it is all downhill.

Thought experiment.  Could ultra-PC Seattle, if left alone as an island, passively become as Islamicized as, say, Malmo, Sweden in the face of massive immigration?  Possibly.
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<p>Your prescription would work only if all the people affected reacted in the same way &#8211; and if they all agreed on the superiority of what you and I would call Western values.  But if they or their elites don&#8217;t admire those values, or if they have spent their lives in opposition to those values, then it is all downhill.</p>
<p>Thought experiment.  Could ultra-PC Seattle, if left alone as an island, passively become as Islamicized as, say, Malmo, Sweden in the face of massive immigration?  Possibly.</p>
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		<title>By: WichitaBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WichitaBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy,

I&#039;m not after the high moral ground alone. Far from it. I meant what I said. Better to be innoculated today than contract the full disease tomorrow. Open debate is the best innoculation. Let&#039;s see the enemy for what he is.

If millions of such people were coming in, overwhelming the natives, &quot;colonizing&quot; the place the way PeterUK has it, then I would have a different opinion. Perhaps Skook is right and &quot;every other cabdriver&quot; would lead only to utter spinelessness.
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<p>I&#8217;m not after the high moral ground alone. Far from it. I meant what I said. Better to be innoculated today than contract the full disease tomorrow. Open debate is the best innoculation. Let&#8217;s see the enemy for what he is.</p>
<p>If millions of such people were coming in, overwhelming the natives, &#8220;colonizing&#8221; the place the way PeterUK has it, then I would have a different opinion. Perhaps Skook is right and &#8220;every other cabdriver&#8221; would lead only to utter spinelessness.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WB, right that we win the moral victory, by the tolerance demonstrated, and the pathology exposed. But &quot;moral victory&quot; is so termed because it&#039;s not the same as the other kind of victory, that of the thing breathing down your neck.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WB, right that we win the moral victory, by the tolerance demonstrated, and the pathology exposed. But &#8220;moral victory&#8221; is so termed because it&#8217;s not the same as the other kind of victory, that of the thing breathing down your neck.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WichitaBoy:

&lt;i&gt;A bargain at twice the price. We need more, not fewer, men like this in our country. If every other taxi driver in LA and Manhattan held such beliefs, the establishment view of the Muslim conflict would change for the saner overnight.&lt;/i&gt;

Or perhaps the establishment view would just become more spineless and accommodating, as it has in Britain.  Like I said above, there is a reason why we don&#039;t have George Galloways in the US Congress -  an insufficiency of Roger&#039;s taxi drivers.  Better we learn about him here at Roger&#039;s place than having the same conversation every time one of us gets a cab.  By then it would be too late.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WichitaBoy:</p>
<p><i>A bargain at twice the price. We need more, not fewer, men like this in our country. If every other taxi driver in LA and Manhattan held such beliefs, the establishment view of the Muslim conflict would change for the saner overnight.</i></p>
<p>Or perhaps the establishment view would just become more spineless and accommodating, as it has in Britain.  Like I said above, there is a reason why we don&#8217;t have George Galloways in the US Congress &#8211;  an insufficiency of Roger&#8217;s taxi drivers.  Better we learn about him here at Roger&#8217;s place than having the same conversation every time one of us gets a cab.  By then it would be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: WichitaBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WichitaBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why is this man in the USA?&lt;/i&gt;

I think it&#039;s wonderful. Having men like this in the United States is what makes this a great country. It gives us new viewpoints we could never have even imagined if he weren&#039;t hhysically here. Truth is once again stranger than fiction. Heaven and Earth once again contains more than our philosophy. Why was Roger shocked? Because deep down, after all that has been said and done these last years, after all that Roger himself has written on &quot;How they Hate Us&quot;, he doesn&#039;t really believe in his heart in such insanity. Having a man like this right in Seattle has enlightened both Roger and all the rest of us. A bargain at twice the price. We need more, not fewer, men like this in our country. If every other taxi driver in LA and Manhattan held such beliefs, the establishment view of the Muslim conflict would change for the saner overnight.

Do we really want to live in a country where everyone possesses the exact same beliefs in lock-step, like one vast Cambridge, MA? Everyman a Chomsky? Nauseating. And it works the other way too: this man&#039;s being here will give him and his children and his contacts back home new viewpoints which they obviously would never have learned in isolation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why is this man in the USA?</i></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s wonderful. Having men like this in the United States is what makes this a great country. It gives us new viewpoints we could never have even imagined if he weren&#8217;t hhysically here. Truth is once again stranger than fiction. Heaven and Earth once again contains more than our philosophy. Why was Roger shocked? Because deep down, after all that has been said and done these last years, after all that Roger himself has written on &#8220;How they Hate Us&#8221;, he doesn&#8217;t really believe in his heart in such insanity. Having a man like this right in Seattle has enlightened both Roger and all the rest of us. A bargain at twice the price. We need more, not fewer, men like this in our country. If every other taxi driver in LA and Manhattan held such beliefs, the establishment view of the Muslim conflict would change for the saner overnight.</p>
<p>Do we really want to live in a country where everyone possesses the exact same beliefs in lock-step, like one vast Cambridge, MA? Everyman a Chomsky? Nauseating. And it works the other way too: this man&#8217;s being here will give him and his children and his contacts back home new viewpoints which they obviously would never have learned in isolation.</p>
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