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		<title>By: Mister Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roger,
I&#039;m compiling the largest roundup in the Blogosphere on the North Korean Nuclear test and I added your comments/link to the post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2006/10/north-korea-goes-nuclear-largest_09.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Link&lt;/a&gt;

I was thinking, you went from being a mystery
writer to a political analyst of Pacific Rim Geopolitics. LOL.

And please God, no Democrats in the White House or controlling Congress anytime soon - how much damage did they engender the previous time they had control? We are still paying for Clinton&#039;s negligence in Foreign policy matters, and the
Dems taking control of the Senate and impeaching Bush with all these crisises ongoing, that can&#039;t be a good thing.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger,<br />
I&#8217;m compiling the largest roundup in the Blogosphere on the North Korean Nuclear test and I added your comments/link to the post: <a href="http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2006/10/north-korea-goes-nuclear-largest_09.html" rel="nofollow"> Link</a></p>
<p>I was thinking, you went from being a mystery<br />
writer to a political analyst of Pacific Rim Geopolitics. LOL.</p>
<p>And please God, no Democrats in the White House or controlling Congress anytime soon &#8211; how much damage did they engender the previous time they had control? We are still paying for Clinton&#8217;s negligence in Foreign policy matters, and the<br />
Dems taking control of the Senate and impeaching Bush with all these crisises ongoing, that can&#8217;t be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger

This is not about the obscure sex life of a congressman! Sheeeeeesh.

This is about gay leftist activists trying to destroy an American political party over gay marriage.

And it looks like they might get away with it!

You decry the politics in this country, you decry the softness of the Dems on terror, yet you tell us to turn away from this bigotry on the Left that can have a profound effect on the way we wage this war?!

I am so disappointed.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger</p>
<p>This is not about the obscure sex life of a congressman! Sheeeeeesh.</p>
<p>This is about gay leftist activists trying to destroy an American political party over gay marriage.</p>
<p>And it looks like they might get away with it!</p>
<p>You decry the politics in this country, you decry the softness of the Dems on terror, yet you tell us to turn away from this bigotry on the Left that can have a profound effect on the way we wage this war?!</p>
<p>I am so disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as for the Abramoff thing...it is inevitable I am afraid, for both parties when in power. Hopefully the fact that some people got caught will put the fear of God into the rest, but only for awhile. They are human, they will screw up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as for the Abramoff thing&#8230;it is inevitable I am afraid, for both parties when in power. Hopefully the fact that some people got caught will put the fear of God into the rest, but only for awhile. They are human, they will screw up.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If GOP is in the minority, they might not spend their time learning, they might spend their time trying to stave off impeachment of George Bush.

Bush happens to be the Commander in Chief and we happen to be in war. Boring I know when compared to Foley asking a 16 year of for a picture, but all in all I would say this is a lousy tome to be learning a lesson in humility.

I keep hearing conservatives say it is a good thing if they lose. Wrong. Most people are not conservatives. They will not gasp in horror once they realize they did not vote a Malkin or a Coulter to Congress, or for taht matter a Glenn Reynolds or an Ed Morrisey. The only thing they will learn is that the people bitching about the Democrats suddenly really have something to bitch about.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If GOP is in the minority, they might not spend their time learning, they might spend their time trying to stave off impeachment of George Bush.</p>
<p>Bush happens to be the Commander in Chief and we happen to be in war. Boring I know when compared to Foley asking a 16 year of for a picture, but all in all I would say this is a lousy tome to be learning a lesson in humility.</p>
<p>I keep hearing conservatives say it is a good thing if they lose. Wrong. Most people are not conservatives. They will not gasp in horror once they realize they did not vote a Malkin or a Coulter to Congress, or for taht matter a Glenn Reynolds or an Ed Morrisey. The only thing they will learn is that the people bitching about the Democrats suddenly really have something to bitch about.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We now find out that the e-mails of Mark Foley are boring as hell.  They are are about as sexually titillating as the words on the back of a cereal box.  The American people have been conned by ABC and the rest of the sleazy MSM.  Foley sent a few of these e-mails to a page---and his parents were unnerved because he was gay!  That is the only reason they expressed any displeasure.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now find out that the e-mails of Mark Foley are boring as hell.  They are are about as sexually titillating as the words on the back of a cereal box.  The American people have been conned by ABC and the rest of the sleazy MSM.  Foley sent a few of these e-mails to a page&#8212;and his parents were unnerved because he was gay!  That is the only reason they expressed any displeasure.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luther McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Sefton. I would contend, that in these days and times, there is nothing that is unimportant. Everything can and will be used...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Sefton. I would contend, that in these days and times, there is nothing that is unimportant. Everything can and will be used&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sefton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sefton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can anyone view Condit and Monica as distractions?  I don&#039;t mean to pick on anyone here for this was a commonplace view then and now.   In retrospect, they were the main event.

Please put your mystery writer&#039;s caps on and consider...

Condit was a member of a House Intelligence Committee who was willing to compromise himself for an affair.  We may never know if Condit was compromised but we do know that at that time a member of House Intelligence could be the sort of person who did not care if he was.

Monica recounted how she serviced Clinton while he was on the phone with a member of a House subcommittee on Intelligence.  Do we need to know more how Clinton viewed the importance of Intelligence?

Monica was talking to someone else who was talking to someone else and eventually Newsweek knew and then Drudge.

People who think Monica was frivolous must also think that if the 25 person Newsweek Washington bureau knew of her then the 250 members of the Saudi&#039;s Washington Intelligence service did not. Or maybe the Chinese knew, or maybe not.  But are you willing to bet your family&#039;s lives on it?

It was expected to think this way ever since the 60&#039;s preening about our sexual and all other sophistications.  But let&#039;s stop that.  People never thought this way before.  See the Profumo scandal.  Those people took Profumo seriously because they lived through a time that taught them many people would die if they did not.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anyone view Condit and Monica as distractions?  I don&#8217;t mean to pick on anyone here for this was a commonplace view then and now.   In retrospect, they were the main event.</p>
<p>Please put your mystery writer&#8217;s caps on and consider&#8230;</p>
<p>Condit was a member of a House Intelligence Committee who was willing to compromise himself for an affair.  We may never know if Condit was compromised but we do know that at that time a member of House Intelligence could be the sort of person who did not care if he was.</p>
<p>Monica recounted how she serviced Clinton while he was on the phone with a member of a House subcommittee on Intelligence.  Do we need to know more how Clinton viewed the importance of Intelligence?</p>
<p>Monica was talking to someone else who was talking to someone else and eventually Newsweek knew and then Drudge.</p>
<p>People who think Monica was frivolous must also think that if the 25 person Newsweek Washington bureau knew of her then the 250 members of the Saudi&#8217;s Washington Intelligence service did not. Or maybe the Chinese knew, or maybe not.  But are you willing to bet your family&#8217;s lives on it?</p>
<p>It was expected to think this way ever since the 60&#8242;s preening about our sexual and all other sophistications.  But let&#8217;s stop that.  People never thought this way before.  See the Profumo scandal.  Those people took Profumo seriously because they lived through a time that taught them many people would die if they did not.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the GOP is capable of learning&quot;

What I did not elaborate on was that the GOP came into the House in 1994 and held it for 12 years.  In that time, it should have learned that the media despises GOP country club values and takes whatever liberties with the most minor of scandals exaggerating them as a threat to the Republic. For example, is there a bigger farce than the campaign line that Foley &quot;threatened the children of America.&quot; Ugly stuff and so off base but all arguably fair in a pugilistic sense.  Was there a more attenuated far fetched non- scandal than Wilson Plame?

Maybe,  just maybe, next time the GOP House leadership will avoid the scandals; Abramoff, Ney, Foley, Cunningham, etc. Avoid the scandals by discipline; strict,  no-nonsense discipline.
The House GOP got woefully sloppy under the Hastert/DeLay rule.

I am not avoiding your issue of the emails and their contents because the real issue is that the American voter cares little about the actual wording, the nuance; they read that some gay Congressman was coming on to pages.

Issue decided: Throw the bums out.

You are arguing content, I am arguing effect.







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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the GOP is capable of learning&#8221;</p>
<p>What I did not elaborate on was that the GOP came into the House in 1994 and held it for 12 years.  In that time, it should have learned that the media despises GOP country club values and takes whatever liberties with the most minor of scandals exaggerating them as a threat to the Republic. For example, is there a bigger farce than the campaign line that Foley &#8220;threatened the children of America.&#8221; Ugly stuff and so off base but all arguably fair in a pugilistic sense.  Was there a more attenuated far fetched non- scandal than Wilson Plame?</p>
<p>Maybe,  just maybe, next time the GOP House leadership will avoid the scandals; Abramoff, Ney, Foley, Cunningham, etc. Avoid the scandals by discipline; strict,  no-nonsense discipline.<br />
The House GOP got woefully sloppy under the Hastert/DeLay rule.</p>
<p>I am not avoiding your issue of the emails and their contents because the real issue is that the American voter cares little about the actual wording, the nuance; they read that some gay Congressman was coming on to pages.</p>
<p>Issue decided: Throw the bums out.</p>
<p>You are arguing content, I am arguing effect.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ìAt least, the GOP is capable of learning while the Dems are tone deaf.î

Learn what?  To overact and take draconian measures not justified by the available evidence?  I have just visited the blog that ìrevealedî Mark Foleyís interest in teenage boys. It definitely looks like a scam operation set up by radical leftists.  Please note that the blogger (or bloggers) are anonymous.  This is suspicious by itself.  The e-mails shown are boring to read! There is nothing remotely salacious.  Read them for yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/fsty6

In no way, shape, or form, could Dennis Hastert justify a ìthorough investigation based on these e-mails.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ìAt least, the GOP is capable of learning while the Dems are tone deaf.î</p>
<p>Learn what?  To overact and take draconian measures not justified by the available evidence?  I have just visited the blog that ìrevealedî Mark Foleyís interest in teenage boys. It definitely looks like a scam operation set up by radical leftists.  Please note that the blogger (or bloggers) are anonymous.  This is suspicious by itself.  The e-mails shown are boring to read! There is nothing remotely salacious.  Read them for yourself:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/fsty6" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/fsty6</a></p>
<p>In no way, shape, or form, could Dennis Hastert justify a ìthorough investigation based on these e-mails.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
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		<dc:creator>jedrury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:

I do not disagree with your suppositions.

The Dems knew and Hastert faced a Hobbesian dilemma. But there should have been a challenge to counter the uproar now.

Let&#039;s go back to my original post: the GOP may have a fine opportunity to thoroughly discredit the Dems in the long run.  The GOP is especially effective in opposition. Being the majority party, you are exceedingly vulnerable to the vagaries of chance, time,  circumstance and arrogance.
The nation is in play; the GOP can do better next time. At least,  the GOP is capable of learning while the Dems are tone deaf.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>I do not disagree with your suppositions.</p>
<p>The Dems knew and Hastert faced a Hobbesian dilemma. But there should have been a challenge to counter the uproar now.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go back to my original post: the GOP may have a fine opportunity to thoroughly discredit the Dems in the long run.  The GOP is especially effective in opposition. Being the majority party, you are exceedingly vulnerable to the vagaries of chance, time,  circumstance and arrogance.<br />
The nation is in play; the GOP can do better next time. At least,  the GOP is capable of learning while the Dems are tone deaf.</p>
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