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		<title>By: Cave Bear</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/08/17/the-future-will-be-photoshopped/#comment-81068</link>
		<dc:creator>Cave Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if anyone would bring up the Eddie Adams photo.  Even the article linked to in tsol&#039;s post does not tell the whole story.  I saw an interview with Adams some years ago, and he stated that the main reason that General Loan shot that VC was because the Commie s.o.b. just just killed Loan&#039;s best friend along with his (the friend&#039;s) entire family.

But needless to say, that part of the story never got out, certainly not through the LSM.

Yeah, war sucks.  And yes, Lebanese civilians were killed in at least some of the Israeli air strikes.  But the sad simple difference between those air strikes and the Hezbollah rockets (and likewise that VC so-called &quot;captain&quot; Loan busted the cap on) is that the Israelis were not deliberately targeting those civilians.  They were aiming for the Hezbos and their arms caches, period.  And those civilians were given ample warning to get the hell out of Dodge before the IAF came calling.

On the other hand, the Hezbos WERE deliberately targeting civilians in Israel (again, just as that VC deliberately murdered that man&#039;s family, and for the same reason, terror).

But just like the true story behind that photo of Gen. Loan or the faux photos of &quot;Green Helmet&quot; and the dead child, the MSM isn&#039;t going to tell you the whole story, such as why the Hezbollah terrorists found it necessary to hide behind women and children, or why the Lebanese civilians didn&#039;t leave the area while they had the chance.

Funny how the Lefties and their terrorist fellow travelers don&#039;t have a problem with killing innocents....as long as it is the &quot;correct&quot; ones being killed...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if anyone would bring up the Eddie Adams photo.  Even the article linked to in tsol&#8217;s post does not tell the whole story.  I saw an interview with Adams some years ago, and he stated that the main reason that General Loan shot that VC was because the Commie s.o.b. just just killed Loan&#8217;s best friend along with his (the friend&#8217;s) entire family.</p>
<p>But needless to say, that part of the story never got out, certainly not through the LSM.</p>
<p>Yeah, war sucks.  And yes, Lebanese civilians were killed in at least some of the Israeli air strikes.  But the sad simple difference between those air strikes and the Hezbollah rockets (and likewise that VC so-called &#8220;captain&#8221; Loan busted the cap on) is that the Israelis were not deliberately targeting those civilians.  They were aiming for the Hezbos and their arms caches, period.  And those civilians were given ample warning to get the hell out of Dodge before the IAF came calling.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the Hezbos WERE deliberately targeting civilians in Israel (again, just as that VC deliberately murdered that man&#8217;s family, and for the same reason, terror).</p>
<p>But just like the true story behind that photo of Gen. Loan or the faux photos of &#8220;Green Helmet&#8221; and the dead child, the MSM isn&#8217;t going to tell you the whole story, such as why the Hezbollah terrorists found it necessary to hide behind women and children, or why the Lebanese civilians didn&#8217;t leave the area while they had the chance.</p>
<p>Funny how the Lefties and their terrorist fellow travelers don&#8217;t have a problem with killing innocents&#8230;.as long as it is the &#8220;correct&#8221; ones being killed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuters just called and wants my &quot;little girl being napalmed by Jews while laughingî picture. They have insulted me by offering but a pittance for what this is worth; itís a real mouth frother.  Roger, this is real Pulitzer stuff, her hair is on fire and you can see the Israeli flag in the background.  A Walter Duranty type front-page, lots of money for this one, should start a couple of wars.  I need an agent can you suggest one?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuters just called and wants my &#8220;little girl being napalmed by Jews while laughingî picture. They have insulted me by offering but a pittance for what this is worth; itís a real mouth frother.  Roger, this is real Pulitzer stuff, her hair is on fire and you can see the Israeli flag in the background.  A Walter Duranty type front-page, lots of money for this one, should start a couple of wars.  I need an agent can you suggest one?</p>
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		<title>By: Luther McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luther McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flying Rodent, please find some cheese.

triticale answered you well enough I believe, but I must add, have you seen photos of the Israeli CIVILIAN casualties. I will answer for you. No, you have not. AP, UPI nor none the rest see fit to publish those photos. I wonder why?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flying Rodent, please find some cheese.</p>
<p>triticale answered you well enough I believe, but I must add, have you seen photos of the Israeli CIVILIAN casualties. I will answer for you. No, you have not. AP, UPI nor none the rest see fit to publish those photos. I wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: mezzrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>mezzrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forwarding an important message to Roger:

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Put the camera down, as it is not in conformity to my theory, which is mine, and is the theory that I devised myself. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt; Anne Elk &lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forwarding an important message to Roger:</p>
<p><i><br />
Put the camera down, as it is not in conformity to my theory, which is mine, and is the theory that I devised myself. </i></p>
<p><i> Anne Elk </i></p>
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		<title>By: Pooh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pooh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, of the photos mentioned aboved, the one of Kim Phuc in Vietnam remains under dispute&quot;

And you imagine that the authenticity of Robert Capa&#039;s &quot;Falling Soldier&quot; is not in dispute?

&lt;b&gt;PROVING THAT ROBERT CAPA&#039;S &quot;FALLING SOLDIER&quot; IS GENUINE: A DETECTIVE STORY&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also, of the photos mentioned aboved, the one of Kim Phuc in Vietnam remains under dispute&#8221;</p>
<p>And you imagine that the authenticity of Robert Capa&#8217;s &#8220;Falling Soldier&#8221; is not in dispute?</p>
<p><b>PROVING THAT ROBERT CAPA&#8217;S &#8220;FALLING SOLDIER&#8221; IS GENUINE: A DETECTIVE STORY</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: triticale</title>
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		<dc:creator>triticale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Robert Frank&quot; probably comes from conflating Robert Capa with Frank Capra, as I did until a quick googling. An image search for * capra war * in fact produces the photo in quastion as its first hit because Capra made use of it. For those unfamiliar with it, it shows a man wearing a white shirt and a rig which looks like suspenders, with arms outstretched and a rifle in one hand. It appears as if he had just been shot a moment earlier. Very dramatic, but not much real information in it.

Yes, Flying Rodent, it is true that many Lebenese who were not directly responsible for the rocket attacks on Israeli civilians died as a result of those attacks having been launched from in their midst.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Robert Frank&#8221; probably comes from conflating Robert Capa with Frank Capra, as I did until a quick googling. An image search for * capra war * in fact produces the photo in quastion as its first hit because Capra made use of it. For those unfamiliar with it, it shows a man wearing a white shirt and a rig which looks like suspenders, with arms outstretched and a rifle in one hand. It appears as if he had just been shot a moment earlier. Very dramatic, but not much real information in it.</p>
<p>Yes, Flying Rodent, it is true that many Lebenese who were not directly responsible for the rocket attacks on Israeli civilians died as a result of those attacks having been launched from in their midst.</p>
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		<title>By: Flying Rodent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying Rodent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

Regarding the famous photo of Kim Phuc:

I&#039;ve seen her being interviewed on TV and she was quite clear about what happened to her.  I&#039;m very interested to hear what reasons you have for believing that the shot may have been &#039;faux&#039;, &#039;under dispute&#039; or &#039;staged&#039; in some way.

I understand the point you&#039;re making, since I&#039;m aware that photographs of corpses were posed in both the American Civil War and World War I.  That did not change the fact that both were horrific bloodbaths.

I am, however, rather dubious about your premise - you seem to imply that we are living in some matrix-like other reality where civilians who have been killed by us or our allies do not, in fact, exist.

To my knowledge, the fact that hundreds of innocent Lebanese were killed in the recent hostilities is thus far undisputed.

Or have I misread your post?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>Regarding the famous photo of Kim Phuc:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen her being interviewed on TV and she was quite clear about what happened to her.  I&#8217;m very interested to hear what reasons you have for believing that the shot may have been &#8216;faux&#8217;, &#8216;under dispute&#8217; or &#8216;staged&#8217; in some way.</p>
<p>I understand the point you&#8217;re making, since I&#8217;m aware that photographs of corpses were posed in both the American Civil War and World War I.  That did not change the fact that both were horrific bloodbaths.</p>
<p>I am, however, rather dubious about your premise &#8211; you seem to imply that we are living in some matrix-like other reality where civilians who have been killed by us or our allies do not, in fact, exist.</p>
<p>To my knowledge, the fact that hundreds of innocent Lebanese were killed in the recent hostilities is thus far undisputed.</p>
<p>Or have I misread your post?</p>
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		<title>By: cathyf</title>
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		<dc:creator>cathyf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing which is really amazing is that the MSM doesn&#039;t seem to understand just how thin their credibility was to begin with.  Everyone who shops in the supermarket knows that photos can be faked.  We&#039;ve seen the 2-headed pig-boy, the demon in the 9/11 smoke, George H.W. with the space alien, Ross Perot with the same space alien, etc., etc., etc.  And &lt;i&gt;The Weekly World News&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;The National Enquirer&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;The Star&lt;/i&gt; are all much better at it -- how did the MSM think that they could compete with the MUM (made-up media) in a market niche that the established MUM already has vast experience and complete domination of?

cathy :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing which is really amazing is that the MSM doesn&#8217;t seem to understand just how thin their credibility was to begin with.  Everyone who shops in the supermarket knows that photos can be faked.  We&#8217;ve seen the 2-headed pig-boy, the demon in the 9/11 smoke, George H.W. with the space alien, Ross Perot with the same space alien, etc., etc., etc.  And <i>The Weekly World News</i>, <i>The National Enquirer</i>, <i>The Star</i> are all much better at it &#8212; how did the MSM think that they could compete with the MUM (made-up media) in a market niche that the established MUM already has vast experience and complete domination of?</p>
<p>cathy <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: waterdragon52</title>
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		<dc:creator>waterdragon52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:

I am not familiar with the Robert Capa photo, but remember well the image of that young Vietnamese girl, running, stripped naked after the Napalming of her village and don&#039;t know what &quot;photoshopping&quot; or staging could have been involved.

FYI, that child later immigrated to Canada and became a citizen, so I don&#039;t think she or her parents were Viet Cong sympathizers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>I am not familiar with the Robert Capa photo, but remember well the image of that young Vietnamese girl, running, stripped naked after the Napalming of her village and don&#8217;t know what &#8220;photoshopping&#8221; or staging could have been involved.</p>
<p>FYI, that child later immigrated to Canada and became a citizen, so I don&#8217;t think she or her parents were Viet Cong sympathizers.</p>
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		<title>By: tsol</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even true photographs can be made to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/666noxlw.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lie&lt;/a&gt;!

(Check Neo-Neocon&#039;s take &lt;a href=&quot;http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/04/mind-is-difficult-thing-to-change-part_22.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even true photographs can be made to <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/666noxlw.asp" rel="nofollow">lie</a>!</p>
<p>(Check Neo-Neocon&#8217;s take <a href="http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/04/mind-is-difficult-thing-to-change-part_22.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>).</p>
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