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		<title>By: HA</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/08/04/the-one-handed-war/#comment-80633</link>
		<dc:creator>HA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dougf,

I suggest to you possibility D (with a nod to Rick Ballard&#039;s C option). Perhaps Olmert recognized that Hezbollah had six years to prepare the battle field and he didn&#039;t want to send a masssive force into a meat grinder before making counter-preparations.

I&#039;m not saying this is the case. I&#039;m not in a position to. All I&#039;m saying is that there are many reasons why this war is taking longer than supporters of Israel would like.

The most likely outcome is that Hezbollah will be destroyed, and southern Lebanon will be demilitarized one way or another - even by depopulating it if necessary. For now, the time frame over which this is taking place seems long. But if the outcome that I expect is achieved, it won&#039;t matter if it took six weeks or six months. It will be another essential strategic victory for Israel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dougf,</p>
<p>I suggest to you possibility D (with a nod to Rick Ballard&#8217;s C option). Perhaps Olmert recognized that Hezbollah had six years to prepare the battle field and he didn&#8217;t want to send a masssive force into a meat grinder before making counter-preparations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying this is the case. I&#8217;m not in a position to. All I&#8217;m saying is that there are many reasons why this war is taking longer than supporters of Israel would like.</p>
<p>The most likely outcome is that Hezbollah will be destroyed, and southern Lebanon will be demilitarized one way or another &#8211; even by depopulating it if necessary. For now, the time frame over which this is taking place seems long. But if the outcome that I expect is achieved, it won&#8217;t matter if it took six weeks or six months. It will be another essential strategic victory for Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: HA</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/08/04/the-one-handed-war/#comment-80632</link>
		<dc:creator>HA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

&lt;i&gt;and great courage in the latter from the US&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t bother looking for any courage from the Democrats:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneblog/archives/060804/republicans_mor.htm

For the moment, the Establishment Democrats are mouthing the right words in support of Israel. But the base of the party overwhelmingly anti-Israel. And as the last few years have shown, they don&#039;t have the courage to stand up to the base in the long term. Just as they didn&#039;t with respect to the Iraq war when a majority of Democratic Senators voted in favor and then immediately began undermining the war before the legislative ink dried.

Let&#039;s state the truth. There is a constiuency in the far left of the Democratic party that is virulently anti-Semitic. If you don&#039;t believe me, just attend a &quot;peace&quot; protest. They don&#039;t want peace. They just want Jews to march into the sea without resistance. Their idea of &quot;peace&quot; is the destruction of Israel. This is the base of the party. It is passionate, organized and well-financed. And the Establishment Democrats in Washington will crumble beneath it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p><i>and great courage in the latter from the US</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother looking for any courage from the Democrats:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneblog/archives/060804/republicans_mor.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneblog/archives/060804/republicans_mor.htm</a></p>
<p>For the moment, the Establishment Democrats are mouthing the right words in support of Israel. But the base of the party overwhelmingly anti-Israel. And as the last few years have shown, they don&#8217;t have the courage to stand up to the base in the long term. Just as they didn&#8217;t with respect to the Iraq war when a majority of Democratic Senators voted in favor and then immediately began undermining the war before the legislative ink dried.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s state the truth. There is a constiuency in the far left of the Democratic party that is virulently anti-Semitic. If you don&#8217;t believe me, just attend a &#8220;peace&#8221; protest. They don&#8217;t want peace. They just want Jews to march into the sea without resistance. Their idea of &#8220;peace&#8221; is the destruction of Israel. This is the base of the party. It is passionate, organized and well-financed. And the Establishment Democrats in Washington will crumble beneath it.</p>
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		<title>By: gumshoe</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/08/04/the-one-handed-war/#comment-80631</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What would the world do if tomorrow Iran annihilated Israel with nuclear weapons? Besides the &#039;&#039;strongly worded‚Äô‚Äô statement of condemnation or, perhaps, the really, really strongly worded statement of condemnation what would the world do? How would the world react to hundreds of millions of Muslims dancing in the streets over the nuclear murder of the Jewish state? I wager that the world will do basically nothing.&quot;

-Mark Razak


Mark -

as the tension ratched up in the last week or so,
one blogger posted several images on his website,
one of which shook me to my bones.

it was  a picture of a gymnasium&#039;s worth
of naked Jews lying face down in a field.

most of them already dead.

in the photo,a fully uniformed SS officer
is shown shooting a wounded woman who is attempting to pick herself up.

and Amedinejad coyly cries
&quot;what Holocaust?&quot;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What would the world do if tomorrow Iran annihilated Israel with nuclear weapons? Besides the &#8221;strongly worded‚Äô‚Äô statement of condemnation or, perhaps, the really, really strongly worded statement of condemnation what would the world do? How would the world react to hundreds of millions of Muslims dancing in the streets over the nuclear murder of the Jewish state? I wager that the world will do basically nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Mark Razak</p>
<p>Mark -</p>
<p>as the tension ratched up in the last week or so,<br />
one blogger posted several images on his website,<br />
one of which shook me to my bones.</p>
<p>it was  a picture of a gymnasium&#8217;s worth<br />
of naked Jews lying face down in a field.</p>
<p>most of them already dead.</p>
<p>in the photo,a fully uniformed SS officer<br />
is shown shooting a wounded woman who is attempting to pick herself up.</p>
<p>and Amedinejad coyly cries<br />
&#8220;what Holocaust?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Razak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Razak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, can anybody steer me to a tutorial on how to use TypeKey?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, can anybody steer me to a tutorial on how to use TypeKey?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Razak</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/08/04/the-one-handed-war/#comment-80629</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Razak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would the world do if tomorrow Iran annihilated Israel with nuclear weapons?  Besides the &#039;&#039;strongly worded‚Äô‚Äô statement of condemnation or, perhaps, the really, really strongly worded statement of condemnation what would the world do?  How would the world react to hundreds of millions of Muslims dancing in the streets over the nuclear murder of the Jewish state?  I wager that the world will do basically nothing.  Oh, sure there will boycotts maybe even of Iranian oil.  But that will wear thin since people will rapidly grow weary of $6 per gallon gasoline. The Left is in transition from support of a &#039;&#039;two state‚Äù solution to support for Israel`s outright annihilation.  Just listen to the protests, read their placards.  Didn‚Äôt Noam Chomsky pay a visit to Hezbollah and endorsed their struggle?  Don‚Äôt underestimate his influence.  I work for the US Navy and I know of several individuals at my place of employment who are genuine Chomskyites.   Anti-Israeli feeling for a large portion of the Left is anti-Americanism by proxy.  What the Left wants for Israel it dreams about for America.  Israel is losing this war, just like her big brother America, because she is refusing to do what is necessary to do. Olmert like our failed President is in the progress of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  Instead, Israel/America worry about the opinions of whose who do not wish her well; they refuse to challenge the opposition and argue their positions again and again and again. We will continue to lose until we name our enemy and until we defend without apology our history, our institutions and our values.  If you have children do know what is being taught to them in their social studies and history classes?  I was shocked to learn from my son about the tired Leftist-Chomsky bullshit that was being presented as fact at his school.  My son was the only one in this classes‚Äîthe only one‚Äîwho challenge his teachers.   (I don‚Äôt live in Berkeley.)  Make no mistake the war on Israel is microcosm of the war that the Left, and its newly found ally the Islamists, is waging against Western civilization.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would the world do if tomorrow Iran annihilated Israel with nuclear weapons?  Besides the &#8221;strongly worded‚Äô‚Äô statement of condemnation or, perhaps, the really, really strongly worded statement of condemnation what would the world do?  How would the world react to hundreds of millions of Muslims dancing in the streets over the nuclear murder of the Jewish state?  I wager that the world will do basically nothing.  Oh, sure there will boycotts maybe even of Iranian oil.  But that will wear thin since people will rapidly grow weary of $6 per gallon gasoline. The Left is in transition from support of a &#8221;two state‚Äù solution to support for Israel`s outright annihilation.  Just listen to the protests, read their placards.  Didn‚Äôt Noam Chomsky pay a visit to Hezbollah and endorsed their struggle?  Don‚Äôt underestimate his influence.  I work for the US Navy and I know of several individuals at my place of employment who are genuine Chomskyites.   Anti-Israeli feeling for a large portion of the Left is anti-Americanism by proxy.  What the Left wants for Israel it dreams about for America.  Israel is losing this war, just like her big brother America, because she is refusing to do what is necessary to do. Olmert like our failed President is in the progress of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  Instead, Israel/America worry about the opinions of whose who do not wish her well; they refuse to challenge the opposition and argue their positions again and again and again. We will continue to lose until we name our enemy and until we defend without apology our history, our institutions and our values.  If you have children do know what is being taught to them in their social studies and history classes?  I was shocked to learn from my son about the tired Leftist-Chomsky bullshit that was being presented as fact at his school.  My son was the only one in this classes‚Äîthe only one‚Äîwho challenge his teachers.   (I don‚Äôt live in Berkeley.)  Make no mistake the war on Israel is microcosm of the war that the Left, and its newly found ally the Islamists, is waging against Western civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Lan Nguyen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/08/04/the-one-handed-war/#comment-80628</link>
		<dc:creator>Lan Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy,
It is also my speculation from the earliest day, about the IDF&#039;s strategy to draw the Hez to stay to fight the battle in Southern Lebanon, instead of dispersing their fighters into the population and make the IDF&#039;s job very hard to accomplish. This strategy could be part of another higher strategy to smash the Hez to a weaker force, so when the time a civil war arrived, they are much easier to manage by another sectarian groups, because once the Israelis gone, the hatre among them will definitely return.

All of the noises showing on all the media channels could very well be a smoke screen of a disinformation war in progress because if we can see CNN reporters safely reporting at the IDF&#039;s firing range but never once at the Hez&#039;s opoerational center, why not using the useful idiots to broadcast the &quot;intended&quot; news?

Once energy produced plans has been targetted to force the Hez to use their generators hence revealing their EMF signatures, the supply roads to be severed as it has happened couple days ago, the battle field is starting taken shape and will be intense. All the peace talks, cease fire are just creating more undecision and confusion while the battle drum&#039;s tempo is more intense and increased.

I just could not fathom the noise Olmert generated about West Bank&#039;s disengagement when the war is going on, hence my reservation that there is a chance Olmert and his leftist liberal cabinet is squandering their golden opportunity. If I&#039;m a Hez commander planning to take my fighting force to fight the Israelis, I&#039;m probably more concern about something making no sense like that to glimpse through the smoke screen, than the fact the whole Israelis Army literally taking a picnic at the border while their politicians debating of their decisions, for the mistake I took could mean the total destruction of my fighting force.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy,<br />
It is also my speculation from the earliest day, about the IDF&#8217;s strategy to draw the Hez to stay to fight the battle in Southern Lebanon, instead of dispersing their fighters into the population and make the IDF&#8217;s job very hard to accomplish. This strategy could be part of another higher strategy to smash the Hez to a weaker force, so when the time a civil war arrived, they are much easier to manage by another sectarian groups, because once the Israelis gone, the hatre among them will definitely return.</p>
<p>All of the noises showing on all the media channels could very well be a smoke screen of a disinformation war in progress because if we can see CNN reporters safely reporting at the IDF&#8217;s firing range but never once at the Hez&#8217;s opoerational center, why not using the useful idiots to broadcast the &#8220;intended&#8221; news?</p>
<p>Once energy produced plans has been targetted to force the Hez to use their generators hence revealing their EMF signatures, the supply roads to be severed as it has happened couple days ago, the battle field is starting taken shape and will be intense. All the peace talks, cease fire are just creating more undecision and confusion while the battle drum&#8217;s tempo is more intense and increased.</p>
<p>I just could not fathom the noise Olmert generated about West Bank&#8217;s disengagement when the war is going on, hence my reservation that there is a chance Olmert and his leftist liberal cabinet is squandering their golden opportunity. If I&#8217;m a Hez commander planning to take my fighting force to fight the Israelis, I&#8217;m probably more concern about something making no sense like that to glimpse through the smoke screen, than the fact the whole Israelis Army literally taking a picnic at the border while their politicians debating of their decisions, for the mistake I took could mean the total destruction of my fighting force.</p>
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		<title>By: PBRMan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me inescapable that any fighting force that is unwilling to inflict, or to accept, civilian casualties must always be defeated by a force that seeks to inflict them, and advertises its acceptance of them.  Israel simply can&#039;t permit the innate civility of its people and its leaders to prevent its doing what it has to do to survive.  As a reluctant General Sherman observed, the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me inescapable that any fighting force that is unwilling to inflict, or to accept, civilian casualties must always be defeated by a force that seeks to inflict them, and advertises its acceptance of them.  Israel simply can&#8217;t permit the innate civility of its people and its leaders to prevent its doing what it has to do to survive.  As a reluctant General Sherman observed, the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Schmoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Schmoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Western media is basically irrelevant at this point.  The propaganda war is already over -- it never really began.  The Hezbollah people can stage as many photo-ops as they want, and our TV screens can be filled with pictures of sobbing widows, maimed children, and fist-shaking mobs -- but none of this matters.  Isreal is still free to do whatever it has to do.

The conventional wisdom is that Isreal has to act quickly in any conflict, becuase the media will inevitably be prejudiced and whip up a storm of criticism.  Once the tide of public of opinion inevitably turns against it, the &quot;international community&quot; will &quot;make Israel stop.&quot;

But how?  Suppose French public opinion turns against Isreal.  How, exactly, can the French &quot;make Isreal stop?&quot;

I don&#039;t see how they can.  And that&#039;s France we&#039;re talking about, a country that still has not-inconsiderable economic, diplomatic, military resources.  Compared to France, who cars what the El Salvador&#039;s Ambassador to the UN thinks?

The only country that can really make the Isarelis stop is the US.  But we&#039;re not making them stop.  Israel is free to do what it has to do, public criticism be damned, no?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Western media is basically irrelevant at this point.  The propaganda war is already over &#8212; it never really began.  The Hezbollah people can stage as many photo-ops as they want, and our TV screens can be filled with pictures of sobbing widows, maimed children, and fist-shaking mobs &#8212; but none of this matters.  Isreal is still free to do whatever it has to do.</p>
<p>The conventional wisdom is that Isreal has to act quickly in any conflict, becuase the media will inevitably be prejudiced and whip up a storm of criticism.  Once the tide of public of opinion inevitably turns against it, the &#8220;international community&#8221; will &#8220;make Israel stop.&#8221;</p>
<p>But how?  Suppose French public opinion turns against Isreal.  How, exactly, can the French &#8220;make Isreal stop?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how they can.  And that&#8217;s France we&#8217;re talking about, a country that still has not-inconsiderable economic, diplomatic, military resources.  Compared to France, who cars what the El Salvador&#8217;s Ambassador to the UN thinks?</p>
<p>The only country that can really make the Isarelis stop is the US.  But we&#8217;re not making them stop.  Israel is free to do what it has to do, public criticism be damned, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Goodfellow</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If ever there were a time calling for a moment of clarity, this would be it.  The world needs to understand that Hezbollah is not merely a &quot;terrorist organization&quot; but it is an entity which has declared total war against Israel and has been fighting said war using any and all means at its disposal.

Moreover, people need to understand that Lebanon has been complicit, whether willingly or no, in Hezbollah&#039;s actions by being unable and unwilling to stop Hezbollah from using Lebanese territory as a base of operations.  The situation is similar to that of the taliban and al qaeda.  When you are the government of a state you have an international responsibility for things that occur within your borders.  If you cannot stop groups within your state from making war with other states and you are unwilling to seek outside help in righting such a situation then you are effectively sponsoring that group&#039;s war efforts (by giving them the cover of your state&#039;s &quot;sovereignty&quot;).

It may be easy to take pity on the Lebanese because they are so apparently modern, have been faced with a very sticky situation, and have been victimized by the recent war.  But they still bear much of the responsibility for this war.  The same as the Germans who stood by while Hitler came to power, or the Russians who stood by while Stalin assembled the Soviet empire.  The Lebanese tried to ignore the problem of Hezbollah (partly because they did not care overly much about the injury Hezbollah might do to Israelis) and preferred to spend their time building condos and partying in clubs.  All the while the hard work of making Lebanon a real state was going undone.  And now both they and Israel are paying the price for that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ever there were a time calling for a moment of clarity, this would be it.  The world needs to understand that Hezbollah is not merely a &#8220;terrorist organization&#8221; but it is an entity which has declared total war against Israel and has been fighting said war using any and all means at its disposal.</p>
<p>Moreover, people need to understand that Lebanon has been complicit, whether willingly or no, in Hezbollah&#8217;s actions by being unable and unwilling to stop Hezbollah from using Lebanese territory as a base of operations.  The situation is similar to that of the taliban and al qaeda.  When you are the government of a state you have an international responsibility for things that occur within your borders.  If you cannot stop groups within your state from making war with other states and you are unwilling to seek outside help in righting such a situation then you are effectively sponsoring that group&#8217;s war efforts (by giving them the cover of your state&#8217;s &#8220;sovereignty&#8221;).</p>
<p>It may be easy to take pity on the Lebanese because they are so apparently modern, have been faced with a very sticky situation, and have been victimized by the recent war.  But they still bear much of the responsibility for this war.  The same as the Germans who stood by while Hitler came to power, or the Russians who stood by while Stalin assembled the Soviet empire.  The Lebanese tried to ignore the problem of Hezbollah (partly because they did not care overly much about the injury Hezbollah might do to Israelis) and preferred to spend their time building condos and partying in clubs.  All the while the hard work of making Lebanon a real state was going undone.  And now both they and Israel are paying the price for that.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ìAs long as Iran can train and supply Hezbollah with impunity, they will continue to be a big problem.î

Israelís air force has knocked out all the major roads.  Iran is going to find it virtually impossible to adequately supply Hezbollah.  Israel may have made a few mistakes early on in the conflict---but it is now kicking some serious butt.  Arabs are  doomed to lose wars because of their backward cultural values.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ìAs long as Iran can train and supply Hezbollah with impunity, they will continue to be a big problem.î</p>
<p>Israelís air force has knocked out all the major roads.  Iran is going to find it virtually impossible to adequately supply Hezbollah.  Israel may have made a few mistakes early on in the conflict&#8212;but it is now kicking some serious butt.  Arabs are  doomed to lose wars because of their backward cultural values.</p>
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