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My belief in fences has been growing by leaps and bounds. I’d like to build one around the entire middle east (except Israel) and allow nothing out OR in. No news, no people, no trade, nada, zip, zero, zilch. In a hundred years take a look in and see if there’s been any change.

And yep, that’s frustration talking.

Before the the letter arrived what was happening. Even the U.N. and the E.U. 3 had come to the end of their extremely long rope. There was finally some movement towards , at the minimum, some form of U.N sanction. I doubt it would have done a damn thing but at least we could have said, we negotiated, we went with multilateral negotiations,remember this is what the Bush administration is always told by the world community that he must do, and that Iran had flipped the world off. This nutter writes a letter that can be just as easily be seen as a declaration of war rather then a serious call for talks and the entire press goes “look, look, they want to talk.” The U.N., the IAEA, and the E.U. three now have an excuse to stall any action.

This is the diplomatic equivalent of the dog ate my homework excuse. Only a fool would buy this con but the left is so eager to go back to talks that produce no results that they swallow it whole.Anything to avoid the extremely hard choices. “I’ll gladly pay you later if you give me a hamburger today.” The Mullahs are laughing so hard that their turbans are falling off their head at how naive the west is. They are getting the bomb. They have no intention of stopping.They never had any intention of stopping. And the west is going to let them have it.

Alan, the “then what” will always be a new form of negotiation until the bomb is finished.

“But when I read an article like this, I become immediately suspicious” is the key line..

Possibly related question:
Do you think Soros funding US left-wing groups is actually helping the cause of the left? Why does he fund pro-freedom foundations in developing nations and fund proponents of dead 20th century socialist/left ideas here?

“I happen to believe that we should engage Iran seriously and make a public case for rapprochement. If it happens, fine. If, as is more likely, it doesn’t, we will have tried.”

Public case with what public?
Doesn’t the EUs (and IAEAs) 3 year soft power effort count as trying?

AND …”we will have tried.”; then what?

“Indeed, the ideal for a well-functioning democratic state is like the ideal for a gentleman’s well-cut suit- it is not noticed. For the common people of Britain, Gestapo and concentration camps have approximately the same degree of reality as the monster of Loch Ness. Atrocity propaganda is helpless against this healthy lack of imagination.”

I don’t think I’d agree with the “healty” part, but lack of imagination definitely plays a part in the unwillingness of many “progressives” to understand reality.

But your criticism of the story, with its unnamed sources and its “random” interview with a shill-on-the-street, is spot on. The article is advocacy cloaked in the weeds of objectivity.

One gets tired. So tired.

I would like to go up to them and demand that they give me their wallets…When they say no I would forcibly take it from them…then demand that they negotiate.

I wonder how long it would be until they out sourced their violence and called the cops?

These people are naive fools who have lived in the safety of the US and are secure in the delusion of their own platitudes. They need to be slapped upside the head by reality. I’m even willing to negotiate which implement is used.

Clearly, people are going out of their way not to get the message.

The important thing to remember here is that you must close with a quote that takes your side. If you forget everything else I’ve taught you, do not forget this. Anything before this quote doesn’t matter. In fact, the best thing to do here is allow the other side to make a short point, then quickly shift into “some people say” mode and wrap it up.

Sounds like Vick and Linzer have it down pat.

(My full piece is here if anyone’s interested.)