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		<title>By: ForNow</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iran&#039;s is among the cultures which have long been Islamized. It is distinguished by a streak of flaky extremism as seen, in the worst case, in the Mujahedin-e Khalq (aka MEK, MKO, &amp; many other names &amp; initials) which is an islamomarxist war cult. I&#039;ve known a few Iranians, and it reminds me that, as in revolutionary France &amp; Russia, a little intellectual knowledge can be a dangerous thing in the heads of people given to ideological enthusiasms. But aside from those gleanings, I&#039;ve heard or read very little about Iran&#039;s culture and how similar or dissimilar the Iranians are to the long-Islamized desert peoples to their south and west. I do wonder about it.

About those other Muslim cultures, it should be noted how alien the &lt;i&gt;psychology&lt;/i&gt; is for us.

In the West in modern times, it hasn&#039;t been so unsual for some women to have visions. Among the Moghrebs (Berbers) and Arabs, it has not been so unusual for the men to have visions as well. The women have a reputation for using poison, as if in a classic illustration of Nietzsche&#039;s discussions of the arts of the slave. The sense of time is very different from that of the West. Things that happened years ago might as well have happened yesterday. Paul Bowles opens a window on these things. One might read &lt;i&gt;The Collected Stories&lt;/i&gt; (in a sideshow, you&#039;ll come to see how Gore Vidal in his introduction flatly fails to understand some of Bowles&#039; stories), and also some of the novels &amp; stories by Bowles&#039; friends such as Mohammed Mrabet &amp; Driss ben Hamed Charhadi, which Bowles translated into English &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paulbowles.org/books.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.paulbowles.org/books.html&lt;/a&gt;

As an intellectual, Bowles was a pretty typical anti-Western Westerner. Meanwhile, his stories &amp; novels tend to be about people traveling or touring (or the occasional local who&#039;s tripping), and who get into trouble sometimes fatally in foreign or strange situations whose dangers they don&#039;t understand. I wonder in how alien a world we all are now.

Islam was born, conceived, and raised in the desert. Islam is the desert. Islam is war and peace and submission and oppression if and when the desert is those things. The kif or the hashish is lit, and an Arabic script of golden scimitars dances against a hard blue sky. Islam is fatalistic. Cultures long Islamized invent little. For Islam, nothing is at liberty, nothing is really novel, and time merely reveals what was fated eons ago as if yesterday, like movements of orbs in ordered and undecaying dynamics. Allah is not sociably triune, much less swarmingly thousand-faced, but as stark over Islam, as desert sun or moon over a desert while the wind has died. Sometimes the wind blows, and the dunes are ever shifting and ever the same.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran&#8217;s is among the cultures which have long been Islamized. It is distinguished by a streak of flaky extremism as seen, in the worst case, in the Mujahedin-e Khalq (aka MEK, MKO, &amp; many other names &amp; initials) which is an islamomarxist war cult. I&#8217;ve known a few Iranians, and it reminds me that, as in revolutionary France &amp; Russia, a little intellectual knowledge can be a dangerous thing in the heads of people given to ideological enthusiasms. But aside from those gleanings, I&#8217;ve heard or read very little about Iran&#8217;s culture and how similar or dissimilar the Iranians are to the long-Islamized desert peoples to their south and west. I do wonder about it.</p>
<p>About those other Muslim cultures, it should be noted how alien the <i>psychology</i> is for us.</p>
<p>In the West in modern times, it hasn&#8217;t been so unsual for some women to have visions. Among the Moghrebs (Berbers) and Arabs, it has not been so unusual for the men to have visions as well. The women have a reputation for using poison, as if in a classic illustration of Nietzsche&#8217;s discussions of the arts of the slave. The sense of time is very different from that of the West. Things that happened years ago might as well have happened yesterday. Paul Bowles opens a window on these things. One might read <i>The Collected Stories</i> (in a sideshow, you&#8217;ll come to see how Gore Vidal in his introduction flatly fails to understand some of Bowles&#8217; stories), and also some of the novels &amp; stories by Bowles&#8217; friends such as Mohammed Mrabet &amp; Driss ben Hamed Charhadi, which Bowles translated into English <a href="http://www.paulbowles.org/books.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.paulbowles.org/books.html</a></p>
<p>As an intellectual, Bowles was a pretty typical anti-Western Westerner. Meanwhile, his stories &amp; novels tend to be about people traveling or touring (or the occasional local who&#8217;s tripping), and who get into trouble sometimes fatally in foreign or strange situations whose dangers they don&#8217;t understand. I wonder in how alien a world we all are now.</p>
<p>Islam was born, conceived, and raised in the desert. Islam is the desert. Islam is war and peace and submission and oppression if and when the desert is those things. The kif or the hashish is lit, and an Arabic script of golden scimitars dances against a hard blue sky. Islam is fatalistic. Cultures long Islamized invent little. For Islam, nothing is at liberty, nothing is really novel, and time merely reveals what was fated eons ago as if yesterday, like movements of orbs in ordered and undecaying dynamics. Allah is not sociably triune, much less swarmingly thousand-faced, but as stark over Islam, as desert sun or moon over a desert while the wind has died. Sometimes the wind blows, and the dunes are ever shifting and ever the same.</p>
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		<title>By: rosignol</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Aside from that, if history has taught us anything it is this: when a genocidal Jew-hater tells you he wants to wipe all the Jews off the map (of Europe OR the Middle East) it behooves you to take him at his word.&lt;/i&gt;


Er, concern for the well-being of the Israelis is well and good and all that, but please keep in mind that when the Iranians refer to &quot;The Great Satan&quot;, they&#039;re &lt;i&gt;not talking about the Israel&lt;/i&gt;.

IMO, this is much simpler than a lot of people think. When a government that refers to my country as &quot;The Great Satan&quot; and has citizens who go to rallies and chant &quot;Death to America&quot; is developing nuclear weapons, we are entirely justified in doing whatever we see fit to do in order to assure our own security. Doing nothing and hoping for &#039;peace in our time&#039; because the other party is sane is not a plan, it is folly.

Either we take care of business before the Iranians have nukes, or we take care of business after the Iranians have nukes. The only difference between those two options is how many people are going to die in the process.

Which will it be?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Aside from that, if history has taught us anything it is this: when a genocidal Jew-hater tells you he wants to wipe all the Jews off the map (of Europe OR the Middle East) it behooves you to take him at his word.</i></p>
<p>Er, concern for the well-being of the Israelis is well and good and all that, but please keep in mind that when the Iranians refer to &#8220;The Great Satan&#8221;, they&#8217;re <i>not talking about the Israel</i>.</p>
<p>IMO, this is much simpler than a lot of people think. When a government that refers to my country as &#8220;The Great Satan&#8221; and has citizens who go to rallies and chant &#8220;Death to America&#8221; is developing nuclear weapons, we are entirely justified in doing whatever we see fit to do in order to assure our own security. Doing nothing and hoping for &#8216;peace in our time&#8217; because the other party is sane is not a plan, it is folly.</p>
<p>Either we take care of business before the Iranians have nukes, or we take care of business after the Iranians have nukes. The only difference between those two options is how many people are going to die in the process.</p>
<p>Which will it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Bulbman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bulbman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David72, Christopher Hitchens rejects the nickname &quot;Chris&quot; and insists on being called &quot;Christopher&quot;. So maybe he shares your feelings about Chrises.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David72, Christopher Hitchens rejects the nickname &#8220;Chris&#8221; and insists on being called &#8220;Christopher&#8221;. So maybe he shares your feelings about Chrises.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Iran, here&#039;s a provocative article:

&quot;U.S. Push for Democracy Could Backfire Inside Iran&quot;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/13/AR2006031301761.html






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Iran, here&#8217;s a provocative article:</p>
<p>&#8220;U.S. Push for Democracy Could Backfire Inside Iran&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/13/AR2006031301761.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/13/AR2006031301761.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: waterdragon52</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what will work for Iran, but a few things I read recently are cause for reflection:

1.  Iran&#039;s domestic supply of uranium is rather small -- perhaps 7 years&#039; worth if the purpose is really for the production of peaceful energy. Contrast this with petroleum reserves that would last 250 years for domestic purposes. Clearly, the nuke project is about manufacturing arms.

2.  Iran is a major earthquake zone. What chances that their facilities are going to be able to withstand a major quake?

3.  Ha&#039;aretz recently ran a story indicating that Iran has actually been processing uranium for a much longer period of time than commonly believed. The implication of this is that they are not moving along as swiftly as is commonly believed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what will work for Iran, but a few things I read recently are cause for reflection:</p>
<p>1.  Iran&#8217;s domestic supply of uranium is rather small &#8212; perhaps 7 years&#8217; worth if the purpose is really for the production of peaceful energy. Contrast this with petroleum reserves that would last 250 years for domestic purposes. Clearly, the nuke project is about manufacturing arms.</p>
<p>2.  Iran is a major earthquake zone. What chances that their facilities are going to be able to withstand a major quake?</p>
<p>3.  Ha&#8217;aretz recently ran a story indicating that Iran has actually been processing uranium for a much longer period of time than commonly believed. The implication of this is that they are not moving along as swiftly as is commonly believed.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro-reform President Khatami was a figurehead.  What is the evidence is there that theocratic President Ahmadinejad is more powerful or influential than Khatami was?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro-reform President Khatami was a figurehead.  What is the evidence is there that theocratic President Ahmadinejad is more powerful or influential than Khatami was?</p>
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		<title>By: david72</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be the odd man out but I don&#039;t think much of Hitchens. Maybe its all that artfully boyish and  mussed and probably dyed hair. Maybe its the different flags of political convenience he runs up and down the pole depending on the fashion of the day. Maybe its his unwillingness to cool his publicists when they insult American letters by ballyhooing their client as AMERICA&#039;S LEADING INTELLECTUAL. Maybe its his insistance that he is no mere writer but that for him, writing is a holy vocation, as if his publicists aren&#039;t working overtime and his agent doesn&#039;t haggle like a fishwife for every dollar. Maybe its his obsessive and unhealthy quarter-century-old hatred of Henry Kissinger. Maybe its his consistent, reflexive and ever fahionable disparagement of the Jewish State.  Maybe its his &quot;discovery&quot; (gadzooks!) at the age of twenty--a la madeline Albright-- that mommy is jewish. Maybe its the name Chris, that tired triumphalist handle for half-Jews--Chris Sulzberger, Chris Weinberger, Chris Cohen, etc.--that turns my stomach.  In any event, I&#039;ve never found Hitchens insightful or original. He writes well enough but its mainly holier-than-thou posturing. Of Iran, he understands nothing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be the odd man out but I don&#8217;t think much of Hitchens. Maybe its all that artfully boyish and  mussed and probably dyed hair. Maybe its the different flags of political convenience he runs up and down the pole depending on the fashion of the day. Maybe its his unwillingness to cool his publicists when they insult American letters by ballyhooing their client as AMERICA&#8217;S LEADING INTELLECTUAL. Maybe its his insistance that he is no mere writer but that for him, writing is a holy vocation, as if his publicists aren&#8217;t working overtime and his agent doesn&#8217;t haggle like a fishwife for every dollar. Maybe its his obsessive and unhealthy quarter-century-old hatred of Henry Kissinger. Maybe its his consistent, reflexive and ever fahionable disparagement of the Jewish State.  Maybe its his &#8220;discovery&#8221; (gadzooks!) at the age of twenty&#8211;a la madeline Albright&#8211; that mommy is jewish. Maybe its the name Chris, that tired triumphalist handle for half-Jews&#8211;Chris Sulzberger, Chris Weinberger, Chris Cohen, etc.&#8211;that turns my stomach.  In any event, I&#8217;ve never found Hitchens insightful or original. He writes well enough but its mainly holier-than-thou posturing. Of Iran, he understands nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

I too &quot;I&#039;m far from convinced Hitchens has the right approach here. But I wish I knew what was.&quot;

The only active non-violent response to this situation that I can come up with is basically this:


Build a number of large transmitters in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as satellites and use them to beam information like the Wafa Sultan (sp?) interview into the country in Arabic and Farsi and whatever other language is appropriate. Beam in any kind of anti-Mullah message we can.....AND.....beam in warnings about what will happen to Iran if the Iranians don&#039;t take care of this themselves.

I&#039;d also suggest B2 bomber loads of leaflets if practicable to A) increase the message penetration and B) to demonstrate our capabilities (the pamphlets could point out that they could have just as easily been MOABs or Smart Bombs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>I too &#8220;I&#8217;m far from convinced Hitchens has the right approach here. But I wish I knew what was.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only active non-violent response to this situation that I can come up with is basically this:</p>
<p>Build a number of large transmitters in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as satellites and use them to beam information like the Wafa Sultan (sp?) interview into the country in Arabic and Farsi and whatever other language is appropriate. Beam in any kind of anti-Mullah message we can&#8230;..AND&#8230;..beam in warnings about what will happen to Iran if the Iranians don&#8217;t take care of this themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also suggest B2 bomber loads of leaflets if practicable to A) increase the message penetration and B) to demonstrate our capabilities (the pamphlets could point out that they could have just as easily been MOABs or Smart Bombs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rockford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Rockford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does Iran want?

They&#039;ve said it, to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews as an absolute religious duty. They&#039;ve said it many times, their President hosted a World Conference on the subject, this is near and dear to their hearts.

They&#039;ve said they can &quot;win&quot; because they can lose half their population and still have 35 million people.

The other thing Iran wants is control of the Gulf and states around it. They&#039;ve wanted this (and had it) for about 2700 years, going back to Cyrus. What stands in their way is the US Navy which kicked their butts in the 1980&#039;s when they tried to take it by force.

Iran wants Israel destroyed, and the US nuked so the Navy leaves the Gulf. They&#039;ve said it. Believe them.

Hitchens belongs to the horse and buggy whip, corset era of the Cold War. Quaint. Outdated, bygone era. What we have now is the Clash of Civilizations ala Huntington. With of course nuclear weapons.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Iran want?</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve said it, to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews as an absolute religious duty. They&#8217;ve said it many times, their President hosted a World Conference on the subject, this is near and dear to their hearts.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve said they can &#8220;win&#8221; because they can lose half their population and still have 35 million people.</p>
<p>The other thing Iran wants is control of the Gulf and states around it. They&#8217;ve wanted this (and had it) for about 2700 years, going back to Cyrus. What stands in their way is the US Navy which kicked their butts in the 1980&#8242;s when they tried to take it by force.</p>
<p>Iran wants Israel destroyed, and the US nuked so the Navy leaves the Gulf. They&#8217;ve said it. Believe them.</p>
<p>Hitchens belongs to the horse and buggy whip, corset era of the Cold War. Quaint. Outdated, bygone era. What we have now is the Clash of Civilizations ala Huntington. With of course nuclear weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: scaramouoche</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about Hitchens is that not only does he have a blanket disdain for all religion, he seems constitutionally incabable of fathoming religious ardor. That makes him highly unreliable as a judge of what genocidal jihadis with a Mahdi complex might or might not do once they get their mitts on a nuke.

Aside from that, if history has taught us anything it is this: when a genocidal Jew-hater tells you he wants to wipe all the Jews off the map (of Europe OR the Middle East) it behooves you to take him at his word.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about Hitchens is that not only does he have a blanket disdain for all religion, he seems constitutionally incabable of fathoming religious ardor. That makes him highly unreliable as a judge of what genocidal jihadis with a Mahdi complex might or might not do once they get their mitts on a nuke.</p>
<p>Aside from that, if history has taught us anything it is this: when a genocidal Jew-hater tells you he wants to wipe all the Jews off the map (of Europe OR the Middle East) it behooves you to take him at his word.</p>
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