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		<title>By: timmy ramone</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/01/that-was-then-this-is-now/#comment-72182</link>
		<dc:creator>timmy ramone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Supreme Court was very clear in its 1972 ruling against warrantless domestic surveillance, and that pretty much trumps all opinions from any &quot;legal scholar&quot; you care to name.



Still, it is highly entertaining to watch Junior Bush&#039;s poodle-dogs and the twisted, distorted and (if I may use the word) tortured &quot;logic&quot; used to rationalize Dubya&#039;s criminal activities.  Seriously -- this is better than Clinton&#039;s re-definition of the word &quot;is&quot;.  Highly entertaining, indeed!  Bra-vo!



-timmy ramone


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court was very clear in its 1972 ruling against warrantless domestic surveillance, and that pretty much trumps all opinions from any &#8220;legal scholar&#8221; you care to name.</p>
<p>Still, it is highly entertaining to watch Junior Bush&#8217;s poodle-dogs and the twisted, distorted and (if I may use the word) tortured &#8220;logic&#8221; used to rationalize Dubya&#8217;s criminal activities.  Seriously &#8212; this is better than Clinton&#8217;s re-definition of the word &#8220;is&#8221;.  Highly entertaining, indeed!  Bra-vo!</p>
<p>-timmy ramone</p>
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		<title>By: Bostonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bostonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndyS,



I might be able to take you seriously if you had 1) acknowledged that there is nothing new about Bush&#039;s use of these powers, and 2) acknowledged that legal scholars themselves (including Sunstein on the Left) do not agree with you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndyS,</p>
<p>I might be able to take you seriously if you had 1) acknowledged that there is nothing new about Bush&#8217;s use of these powers, and 2) acknowledged that legal scholars themselves (including Sunstein on the Left) do not agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aggressively missing the point, as usual.



A warrant is required, by law, to use such surveillance technologies on Americans.  The Bush Administration admits that it did not obtain the necessary warrants.



Simple as that.



Nobody is expressing shock over the existence of the technology.  All of us want terrorists surveilled and caught.  You guys, however, are out on a limb with the opinion that a President can authorize any act, even one that contravenes both law and Constitution.  The onus is on you -- how do you justify that view?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aggressively missing the point, as usual.</p>
<p>A warrant is required, by law, to use such surveillance technologies on Americans.  The Bush Administration admits that it did not obtain the necessary warrants.</p>
<p>Simple as that.</p>
<p>Nobody is expressing shock over the existence of the technology.  All of us want terrorists surveilled and caught.  You guys, however, are out on a limb with the opinion that a President can authorize any act, even one that contravenes both law and Constitution.  The onus is on you &#8212; how do you justify that view?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shumer is a self serving hypocrite.



Fine, so let&#039;s say they kill the program and there is an attack...who will Shumer blame?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shumer is a self serving hypocrite.</p>
<p>Fine, so let&#8217;s say they kill the program and there is an attack&#8230;who will Shumer blame?</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony (Los Angeles)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony (Los Angeles)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Senator Chuck does not want the same sauce used with the gander as with the goose.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Senator Chuck does not want the same sauce used with the gander as with the goose.</p>
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		<title>By: vnjagvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>vnjagvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a subject which Pajamas can cover to help the MSM be a bit more evenhanded, and really put itself on the map.



Merely publishing the parallel 1998-1999 NYT and WAPO articles about ECHELON on a regular basis will assure the historical background is well documented -- out of the mouths of the same MSM, no less. This will aid any Senatorial committee staff people that want to put perspective on this issue.



I hope the editorial staff puts a full court press on this one.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a subject which Pajamas can cover to help the MSM be a bit more evenhanded, and really put itself on the map.</p>
<p>Merely publishing the parallel 1998-1999 NYT and WAPO articles about ECHELON on a regular basis will assure the historical background is well documented &#8212; out of the mouths of the same MSM, no less. This will aid any Senatorial committee staff people that want to put perspective on this issue.</p>
<p>I hope the editorial staff puts a full court press on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that knowledge of Echelon has been in our public psyche for years. The notion of deliberately misspelling words to escape notice from a giant search engine brought us l33t. To whit, the original misspelled words were &quot;warez&quot; and &quot;crakz&quot; which led to the much better &quot;pr0n&quot;, etc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that knowledge of Echelon has been in our public psyche for years. The notion of deliberately misspelling words to escape notice from a giant search engine brought us l33t. To whit, the original misspelled words were &#8220;warez&#8221; and &#8220;crakz&#8221; which led to the much better &#8220;pr0n&#8221;, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are differences between felons and whistleblowers, and we ought to wait &#039;til the investigation occurs to decide what happened,&quot; Sen. Charles Schumerî



I can safely predict that the Democratic Party will be hurt by the investigation.  Its leaders like Charles Schumer are in a damned if they do, and damned if they donít predicament.  There is no way possible for them to satisfy both the hard left of their party and the so-called middle of the road voters.  Whatever they say will come back to haunt them.  Let the fun begin.



How does Schumer determine the difference between a felon and a whistleblowr?  That is a real easy question to answer.  The latter is a Democrat hard-liner while the former votes Republican.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are differences between felons and whistleblowers, and we ought to wait &#8217;til the investigation occurs to decide what happened,&#8221; Sen. Charles Schumerî</p>
<p>I can safely predict that the Democratic Party will be hurt by the investigation.  Its leaders like Charles Schumer are in a damned if they do, and damned if they donít predicament.  There is no way possible for them to satisfy both the hard left of their party and the so-called middle of the road voters.  Whatever they say will come back to haunt them.  Let the fun begin.</p>
<p>How does Schumer determine the difference between a felon and a whistleblowr?  That is a real easy question to answer.  The latter is a Democrat hard-liner while the former votes Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Poinsett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Poinsett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schumer had a microphone and a camera, and his only known function is to bloviate. Doesn&#039;t matter what the topic is as long as it bashes Bush. I&#039;m with McConnell, let the subpoeneas begin.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schumer had a microphone and a camera, and his only known function is to bloviate. Doesn&#8217;t matter what the topic is as long as it bashes Bush. I&#8217;m with McConnell, let the subpoeneas begin.</p>
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		<title>By: WichitaBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WichitaBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are spewing data these days like there&#039;s no tomorrow. Yes, we&#039;ve all known about Echelon for years. They&#039;ve probably upgraded it a bit in the last five years; I &lt;i&gt;hope&lt;/i&gt; they&#039;ve upgraded it.



What scares me more, and what seems to get no attention whatsoever, are the similar programs being run by private entities, such as Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, the Russian Mafia, etc. The technology is such that it&#039;s practically possible for a private individual such as yours truly to write a program which scans the internet for information on individuals, stores it in a gigantic database, and applies statistical analysis to the results to find out all sorts of choice nuggets. This is well within the grasp of, say, GE or Citibank, not that I&#039;ve ever heard any whispers in those particular directions.



Worrying about the US Government is just so 90&#039;s.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are spewing data these days like there&#8217;s no tomorrow. Yes, we&#8217;ve all known about Echelon for years. They&#8217;ve probably upgraded it a bit in the last five years; I <i>hope</i> they&#8217;ve upgraded it.</p>
<p>What scares me more, and what seems to get no attention whatsoever, are the similar programs being run by private entities, such as Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, the Russian Mafia, etc. The technology is such that it&#8217;s practically possible for a private individual such as yours truly to write a program which scans the internet for information on individuals, stores it in a gigantic database, and applies statistical analysis to the results to find out all sorts of choice nuggets. This is well within the grasp of, say, GE or Citibank, not that I&#8217;ve ever heard any whispers in those particular directions.</p>
<p>Worrying about the US Government is just so 90&#8242;s.</p>
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