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		<title>By: Bostonian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/05/violence-reaches-paris-proper/#comment-68297</link>
		<dc:creator>Bostonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syl,

Occasions like this are the reason we invented the word &quot;dither.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syl,</p>
<p>Occasions like this are the reason we invented the word &#8220;dither.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/05/violence-reaches-paris-proper/#comment-68296</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does everyone get the feeling the French, er Chirac and the Poet, are dithering, alarmed, and haven&#039;t a clue what to do?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does everyone get the feeling the French, er Chirac and the Poet, are dithering, alarmed, and haven&#8217;t a clue what to do?</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/05/violence-reaches-paris-proper/#comment-68295</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can&#039;t help wondering where the New Vichy France will be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can&#8217;t help wondering where the New Vichy France will be.</p>
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		<title>By: dougf</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/05/violence-reaches-paris-proper/#comment-68294</link>
		<dc:creator>dougf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in--------



&lt;i&gt;In a stark warning of continued violence Monday, immigrant community spokes-man Imam Tariq Al-Felix of the Lipi Le Lyon Mosque said that arson and looting would continue &lt;b&gt;,until the French government does something to solve the problem of all the burned out looted buildings in our neighborhoods.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;



Courtesy of Iowahawk




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><i>In a stark warning of continued violence Monday, immigrant community spokes-man Imam Tariq Al-Felix of the Lipi Le Lyon Mosque said that arson and looting would continue <b>,until the French government does something to solve the problem of all the burned out looted buildings in our neighborhoods.</b></i></p>
<p>Courtesy of Iowahawk</p>
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		<title>By: Michael_B</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/05/violence-reaches-paris-proper/#comment-68293</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll enthusiastically second the recommendation for that ShrinkWrapped article, following excerpt reflects the summary, which is spot on:



&lt;i&gt;&quot;This is very likely to opening round of a long term struggle for the soul and identity of Europe.  Even if calm eventually prevails and the status quo ante resumes, the situation can not have any long term stability.  The French authorities had already abandoned the Muslim areas and stood with the tyrants and Islamic fascists against the American led coalition, yet this hasn&#039;t protected them and won&#039;t save them in the future; the writ of the Islamists has to grow, it is inevitable and inherent in their ideology and the clashes will become more frequent and, likely, more violent as time goes on.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll enthusiastically second the recommendation for that ShrinkWrapped article, following excerpt reflects the summary, which is spot on:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;This is very likely to opening round of a long term struggle for the soul and identity of Europe.  Even if calm eventually prevails and the status quo ante resumes, the situation can not have any long term stability.  The French authorities had already abandoned the Muslim areas and stood with the tyrants and Islamic fascists against the American led coalition, yet this hasn&#8217;t protected them and won&#8217;t save them in the future; the writ of the Islamists has to grow, it is inevitable and inherent in their ideology and the clashes will become more frequent and, likely, more violent as time goes on.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Orson2</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/05/violence-reaches-paris-proper/#comment-68292</link>
		<dc:creator>Orson2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE best analysis of what&#039;s going in in Paris and now France comes from the good doctor at shrinkwrapped.

http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2005/11/the_french_inti.html



With an assist from Amir Taheri, the Iranian journalist writing for the NY Post, he concludes that this is a French Intifada. Islamists are pressing claims of victimization, leading to demands for apartheid liberation of &quot;occupied territories&quot; (!) from French control. They want to install Muslim Brotherhood emembers to sit on local councils. This is re-installing Ottoman Empire&#039;s &quot;millet system&quot; of local religious conrtol and purity. The consequences, as commenter &quot;goesh&quot; echoes, include a European wide uprising.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE best analysis of what&#8217;s going in in Paris and now France comes from the good doctor at shrinkwrapped.</p>
<p><a href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2005/11/the_french_inti.html" rel="nofollow">http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2005/11/the_french_inti.html</a></p>
<p>With an assist from Amir Taheri, the Iranian journalist writing for the NY Post, he concludes that this is a French Intifada. Islamists are pressing claims of victimization, leading to demands for apartheid liberation of &#8220;occupied territories&#8221; (!) from French control. They want to install Muslim Brotherhood emembers to sit on local councils. This is re-installing Ottoman Empire&#8217;s &#8220;millet system&#8221; of local religious conrtol and purity. The consequences, as commenter &#8220;goesh&#8221; echoes, include a European wide uprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael_B</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a similar, corresponding vein, an article in Trans-Int&#039;s quarterly section, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trans-int.com/quarterly/9-talking-with-islamists-the-european-left-and-its.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Talking With Islamists: The European Left and its &#039;Dialogue&#039; with the Arab World&lt;/a&gt; by Thomas von der Osten-Sacken and Thomas Uwer.  Excerpt:



&lt;i&gt;&quot;Such &quot;dialogue&quot; with Islamists of all stripes, representatives of Arab dictatorships and all sorts of self-appointed spokespersons for the Arab and Islamic world has been underway for over ten years now. Astonishingly, it is seldom asked what results it has in fact produced.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;



Also:



&lt;i&gt;&quot;What, then, is driving the &quot;old&quot; Europeans? Is it cowardice, as Matthias Doepfner recently suggested[3], a preemptive capitulation to Islamism, as Bernard Lewis suspects, appeasement as Henryk M. Broder (Europe, appeasement is your middle name) has insisted, or a mix of stupidity and arrogance coupled with a large dose of anti-American and anti-Semitic resentments? Can it really be the case, as Nikolaus Blome recently put it in the pages of Die Welt, that a German Chancellor seriously defends the view that although Iran does indeed want the bomb, &quot;this does not [threaten] world peace as much as that American President manically fixated on going to war&quot;?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar, corresponding vein, an article in Trans-Int&#8217;s quarterly section, <a href="http://www.trans-int.com/quarterly/9-talking-with-islamists-the-european-left-and-its.html" rel="nofollow">Talking With Islamists: The European Left and its &#8216;Dialogue&#8217; with the Arab World</a> by Thomas von der Osten-Sacken and Thomas Uwer.  Excerpt:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Such &#8220;dialogue&#8221; with Islamists of all stripes, representatives of Arab dictatorships and all sorts of self-appointed spokespersons for the Arab and Islamic world has been underway for over ten years now. Astonishingly, it is seldom asked what results it has in fact produced.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Also:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;What, then, is driving the &#8220;old&#8221; Europeans? Is it cowardice, as Matthias Doepfner recently suggested[3], a preemptive capitulation to Islamism, as Bernard Lewis suspects, appeasement as Henryk M. Broder (Europe, appeasement is your middle name) has insisted, or a mix of stupidity and arrogance coupled with a large dose of anti-American and anti-Semitic resentments? Can it really be the case, as Nikolaus Blome recently put it in the pages of Die Welt, that a German Chancellor seriously defends the view that although Iran does indeed want the bomb, &#8220;this does not [threaten] world peace as much as that American President manically fixated on going to war&#8221;?&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 05:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather,



&lt;i&gt;It is so marvellous to watch all the lefty hypocrisy go up in smoke!&lt;/i&gt;



You are far too optimistic. I don&#039;t think these events will make the slightest difference to the &quot;reality based&quot; community.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather,</p>
<p><i>It is so marvellous to watch all the lefty hypocrisy go up in smoke!</i></p>
<p>You are far too optimistic. I don&#8217;t think these events will make the slightest difference to the &#8220;reality based&#8221; community.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 05:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a great and relevant quote from Time Blair (timblair.net): re the &quot;Car-B-Cue&quot;:



&quot;Question: does the pollution caused by all these car torchings (some 20,000 since the start of 2005) count towards France</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great and relevant quote from Time Blair (timblair.net): re the &#8220;Car-B-Cue&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Question: does the pollution caused by all these car torchings (some 20,000 since the start of 2005) count towards France</p>
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		<title>By: Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 05:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am afraid to say what I think (in part because it rejects the political correctness and multi-cultural indoctrination of today), but my hypothesis is that Islam as a religion and its followers in general is violent and intolerant.  I realize that we in America, and the West overall, live in a pluralistic society that is fundamentally tolerant.  There is no reconciliation between the differing values.



The flaws of the Islamic leaders and states are blamed upon the &quot;infidels&quot;.  The rabid Islamic horde is too brainwashed or dumb to realize that if they get what they want - an Islamic theocracy - they will continue to live like dogs in a Taliban-like society where they are terrorized by their own leadership in the struggle to stay in power.



I am afraid this conflict is just beginning and will last for a long, long time.  The faint of heart and those who would see appeasement as the only road to maintain peace are in for a rude awakening.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid to say what I think (in part because it rejects the political correctness and multi-cultural indoctrination of today), but my hypothesis is that Islam as a religion and its followers in general is violent and intolerant.  I realize that we in America, and the West overall, live in a pluralistic society that is fundamentally tolerant.  There is no reconciliation between the differing values.</p>
<p>The flaws of the Islamic leaders and states are blamed upon the &#8220;infidels&#8221;.  The rabid Islamic horde is too brainwashed or dumb to realize that if they get what they want &#8211; an Islamic theocracy &#8211; they will continue to live like dogs in a Taliban-like society where they are terrorized by their own leadership in the struggle to stay in power.</p>
<p>I am afraid this conflict is just beginning and will last for a long, long time.  The faint of heart and those who would see appeasement as the only road to maintain peace are in for a rude awakening.</p>
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