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		<title>By: Silicon valley Jim</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/24/old-fuddy-duddies-die-hard/#comment-60021</link>
		<dc:creator>Silicon valley Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I can think of nowhere on the planet that is more completely a bastion of stodgy ultra-traditionalist liberal/leftist thought than the UK&#039;s Guardian&lt;/i&gt;



Actually, I can think of two.  They&#039;re both within forty miles of where I&#039;m sitting right now (Mountain View/Los Altos/Palo Alto border).  One is home to a major university.  The other one used to have one of your (and my) US Senators as its mayor. :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can think of nowhere on the planet that is more completely a bastion of stodgy ultra-traditionalist liberal/leftist thought than the UK&#8217;s Guardian</i></p>
<p>Actually, I can think of two.  They&#8217;re both within forty miles of where I&#8217;m sitting right now (Mountain View/Los Altos/Palo Alto border).  One is home to a major university.  The other one used to have one of your (and my) US Senators as its mayor. <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: byrd</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/24/old-fuddy-duddies-die-hard/#comment-60020</link>
		<dc:creator>byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard McEnroe wrote:



&lt;i&gt;PeterUk ? But those terrorists are just so earthy and exciting... why, we should even name our pets after them, just like speaker of truth to power Margaret Cho...



&quot;Gudrun is named after the infamous Gudrun Ensslin who was the female leader of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, an art terrorist group from the 70s. Terrorism was different then. It had a chicness to it, which made it seem less like a dangerous menace and more like fashion.&quot;&lt;i&gt;





Richard, in Margaret Cho&#039;s defense, she kicks her dog when nobody&#039;s looking.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard McEnroe wrote:</p>
<p><i>PeterUk ? But those terrorists are just so earthy and exciting&#8230; why, we should even name our pets after them, just like speaker of truth to power Margaret Cho&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gudrun is named after the infamous Gudrun Ensslin who was the female leader of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, an art terrorist group from the 70s. Terrorism was different then. It had a chicness to it, which made it seem less like a dangerous menace and more like fashion.&#8221;</i><i></p>
<p>Richard, in Margaret Cho&#8217;s defense, she kicks her dog when nobody&#8217;s looking.</p>
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		<title>By: moondoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>moondoggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No individual or publication has done more to undermine British society than the Guardian. It shouldn&#039;t come as a surprise that they are the mouthpiece for radical islam and terror in the UK.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No individual or publication has done more to undermine British society than the Guardian. It shouldn&#8217;t come as a surprise that they are the mouthpiece for radical islam and terror in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/24/old-fuddy-duddies-die-hard/#comment-60018</link>
		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 05:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is an &quot;art terrorist group&quot;?  Is blowing up people considered performance art?
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The elephant in the room here is that Islamism is warring against muslims as much as against the West.



The Guardian&#039;s attempts at understanding and including Islamist views in some pathetic show of fairness and objectivity is abjectly stupid. It hurts muslims as much as the fear of alienating young muslims ignores the relief the rest of the muslim community would feel if the Islamists were expelled from their midst.



Hispanics in America want our borders secured against the entry of terrorists just as the non-Hispanic Americans do. They are Americans too and would suffer as much from an attack as anyone else.



Leftist thinking, as all extreme thinking, lumps individual realities into one mass of humanity and creates a labeled cause which has nothing to do with the individuals so lumped. Not all poor are poor for the same reasons and not all poor are equally poor. And not all poor are even poor.










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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The elephant in the room here is that Islamism is warring against muslims as much as against the West.</p>
<p>The Guardian&#8217;s attempts at understanding and including Islamist views in some pathetic show of fairness and objectivity is abjectly stupid. It hurts muslims as much as the fear of alienating young muslims ignores the relief the rest of the muslim community would feel if the Islamists were expelled from their midst.</p>
<p>Hispanics in America want our borders secured against the entry of terrorists just as the non-Hispanic Americans do. They are Americans too and would suffer as much from an attack as anyone else.</p>
<p>Leftist thinking, as all extreme thinking, lumps individual realities into one mass of humanity and creates a labeled cause which has nothing to do with the individuals so lumped. Not all poor are poor for the same reasons and not all poor are equally poor. And not all poor are even poor.</p>
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		<title>By: LouMinatti</title>
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		<dc:creator>LouMinatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,



It&#039;s funny you should mention the Dear Leader. I just wrote about his awesome videos and music scores. He is very ronry. Just a misunderstood artist and Daffy Duck afficionado.
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<p>It&#8217;s funny you should mention the Dear Leader. I just wrote about his awesome videos and music scores. He is very ronry. Just a misunderstood artist and Daffy Duck afficionado.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>StevenT ó How about cutting them a big ole slice of that accountability they keep demanding from everybody else?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StevenT ó How about cutting them a big ole slice of that accountability they keep demanding from everybody else?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Wechsler</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/24/old-fuddy-duddies-die-hard/#comment-60014</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Wechsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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Well I certainly hope the Guardian continues to receive a massive pommeling on this, and that the other fantasy news orgs of the area get a hint.



I think Britain (and Europe in general) has a harder row to hoe than the U.S. when it comes to the day-to-day relations with their Muslim populations, primarily due to the relative density of it populace and because a larger percentage of their residents are foreign-born (or first generation) Muslims.  But I admit I do not have exact figures to refer to here; just based on general second hand knowledge &amp; assumptions.  Can anyone reading this provide links to or other sources of that kind of demographic info?



Bruce Wechsler
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I certainly hope the Guardian continues to receive a massive pommeling on this, and that the other fantasy news orgs of the area get a hint.</p>
<p>I think Britain (and Europe in general) has a harder row to hoe than the U.S. when it comes to the day-to-day relations with their Muslim populations, primarily due to the relative density of it populace and because a larger percentage of their residents are foreign-born (or first generation) Muslims.  But I admit I do not have exact figures to refer to here; just based on general second hand knowledge &amp; assumptions.  Can anyone reading this provide links to or other sources of that kind of demographic info?</p>
<p>Bruce Wechsler</p>
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		<title>By: StevenT</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevenT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1- They knew of his association with a terrorism-supporting, Jew-hating group and kept him on anyway



2-They didn&#039;nt think anyone would find out (Damn indoor-dwelling bloggers!)



3-They thought if someone did find out no one would find it objectionable



4-They apparently find nothing remarkable about the man&#039;s views



5-Let&#039;s remember these are the people who thought it was a good idea to e-mail  voters in Ohio



The inescapable conclusion from all this - along with a casual perusal of their editorial pages- is that people at The Guardian are rather stupid.



So how about cutting them some slack?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1- They knew of his association with a terrorism-supporting, Jew-hating group and kept him on anyway</p>
<p>2-They didn&#8217;nt think anyone would find out (Damn indoor-dwelling bloggers!)</p>
<p>3-They thought if someone did find out no one would find it objectionable</p>
<p>4-They apparently find nothing remarkable about the man&#8217;s views</p>
<p>5-Let&#8217;s remember these are the people who thought it was a good idea to e-mail  voters in Ohio</p>
<p>The inescapable conclusion from all this &#8211; along with a casual perusal of their editorial pages- is that people at The Guardian are rather stupid.</p>
<p>So how about cutting them some slack?</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard M.--Treacher rocks, period.



Britain has some very rough sledding ahead, Many chickens will come home to roost. Irwin Stelzer is a bright guy, and has great intentions, but is worried about pissing off his British paymasters.



Britain&#039;s mollycoddling of terrorists, infused largely by a wholescale acceptance of the multi-culti leftist rejection of Western Civ, will prove to be a very, very bad idea.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard M.&#8211;Treacher rocks, period.</p>
<p>Britain has some very rough sledding ahead, Many chickens will come home to roost. Irwin Stelzer is a bright guy, and has great intentions, but is worried about pissing off his British paymasters.</p>
<p>Britain&#8217;s mollycoddling of terrorists, infused largely by a wholescale acceptance of the multi-culti leftist rejection of Western Civ, will prove to be a very, very bad idea.</p>
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