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		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/17/in-the-wake-of-77/#comment-59217</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie



Thanks. The domestic front is really worrisome. Da&#039;wah is basically non-violent but still attempts to overthrow the existing system through legal and societal means. Another march through the institutions, so to speak.



I don&#039;t think it&#039;s accidental the connection between Said and multiculturalism.



Though unviolent, the adherents are so extreme that it takes very little to convince them to cross the line into violence.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie</p>
<p>Thanks. The domestic front is really worrisome. Da&#8217;wah is basically non-violent but still attempts to overthrow the existing system through legal and societal means. Another march through the institutions, so to speak.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s accidental the connection between Said and multiculturalism.</p>
<p>Though unviolent, the adherents are so extreme that it takes very little to convince them to cross the line into violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not suggesting they could impress her, only that they might enjoy her. OTOH, wouldn&#039;t martyr&#039;s paradise be rather like Stepford where every man is proclaimed a stud whether worthy of the designation or not?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting they could impress her, only that they might enjoy her. OTOH, wouldn&#8217;t martyr&#8217;s paradise be rather like Stepford where every man is proclaimed a stud whether worthy of the designation or not?</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyda ó What makes you think they could impress a more experienced woman?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyda ó What makes you think they could impress a more experienced woman?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in other European news,



&lt;a href=&quot;http://insider.washingtontimes.com/articles/view_upi.php?StoryID=20050717-092844-7410r&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;France faces drought, locusts&lt;/a&gt;



Mere coincidence? You decide.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in other European news,</p>
<p><a href="http://insider.washingtontimes.com/articles/view_upi.php?StoryID=20050717-092844-7410r" rel="nofollow">France faces drought, locusts</a></p>
<p>Mere coincidence? You decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/17/in-the-wake-of-77/#comment-59213</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Terrorists have turned the after life into a brothel.&lt;/i&gt;



Not only that, but a particularly infantile version of a brothel where every courtesan is a perpetual virgin ripe for deflowering. You&#039;d think that at least occasionaly even a martyr would appreciate the services of a lady more schooled and experienced in the art of love.



The whole concept is very telling I think.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Terrorists have turned the after life into a brothel.</i></p>
<p>Not only that, but a particularly infantile version of a brothel where every courtesan is a perpetual virgin ripe for deflowering. You&#8217;d think that at least occasionaly even a martyr would appreciate the services of a lady more schooled and experienced in the art of love.</p>
<p>The whole concept is very telling I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Syl&lt;/b&gt;



Very interesting and original analysis &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/07/in_the_wake_of.php#c59442&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on your part just above&lt;/a&gt;. Both what you wrote and what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/836esgwz.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reuel Marc Gerecht&lt;/a&gt; writes here strike me as fruitful and original takes on the &lt;b&gt;W.O.I.L.*&lt;/b&gt;



More than the specific content of Gerecht&#039;s piece, as useful as that was, it was its inventiveness and originality that prompted me to call it to Roger&#039;s attention.

;-)



Jamie Irons



&lt;b&gt;*War On Islamic Lunacy&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Syl</b></p>
<p>Very interesting and original analysis <a href="http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/07/in_the_wake_of.php#c59442" rel="nofollow">on your part just above</a>. Both what you wrote and what <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/836esgwz.asp" rel="nofollow">Reuel Marc Gerecht</a> writes here strike me as fruitful and original takes on the <b>W.O.I.L.*</b></p>
<p>More than the specific content of Gerecht&#8217;s piece, as useful as that was, it was its inventiveness and originality that prompted me to call it to Roger&#8217;s attention.<br />
 <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jamie Irons</p>
<p><b>*War On Islamic Lunacy</b><b></b></p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syl,



&lt;i&gt;Possibly. or not.&lt;/i&gt;



Mark me down in the not column. I think the Democrats are convinced they have a winning issue, if only all those people who voted for Bush weren&#039;t just so, &lt;b&gt;so stupid&lt;/b&gt;! So the Democratic strategy will remain yelling louder and louder and louder until all those stupid people see the light.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syl,</p>
<p><i>Possibly. or not.</i></p>
<p>Mark me down in the not column. I think the Democrats are convinced they have a winning issue, if only all those people who voted for Bush weren&#8217;t just so, <b>so stupid</b>! So the Democratic strategy will remain yelling louder and louder and louder until all those stupid people see the light.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bubbling up of the Islamists in our midst is happening sooner than I thought it would.



There are two fronts in this War: one in the M.E. and the other at home.



For a while the foreign front held our attention (and our arguments) now the other front shows its face. The war in Iraq is essentially over and now we can concentrate on the Islamist war at home.



The fact that the war has these two fronts is the reason I&#039;ve never expected, and don&#039;t anticipate, military operations in any country other than Iraq. I don&#039;t expect us to invade Syria, to bomb Iran, or anywhere else (barring unforseen known and unknown unknowns) in the near future. Because it&#039;s time to turn our attention inward.



The war in Iraq had many reasons, the main one being a more secure future rather than a more secure present. Get that out of the way, shake up the status quo, get the ball rolling for permanent changes in ME societies and governance, then turn back inward to handle the immediate threat of Islamism inside our borders.



The Left/Democrats/Liberals (whatever we want to name those opposed to Iraq) while possibly able to understand the local front (time will tell) never did, and still don&#039;t, understand the long term benefits of the foreign front as manifest in Iraq.



No matter. Bush basically accomplished that end of it and if his opponents at home would stop their three-year-old harping about a fete accompli, we can possibly come together to fight the local front.



Possibly. or not. Time will tell.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bubbling up of the Islamists in our midst is happening sooner than I thought it would.</p>
<p>There are two fronts in this War: one in the M.E. and the other at home.</p>
<p>For a while the foreign front held our attention (and our arguments) now the other front shows its face. The war in Iraq is essentially over and now we can concentrate on the Islamist war at home.</p>
<p>The fact that the war has these two fronts is the reason I&#8217;ve never expected, and don&#8217;t anticipate, military operations in any country other than Iraq. I don&#8217;t expect us to invade Syria, to bomb Iran, or anywhere else (barring unforseen known and unknown unknowns) in the near future. Because it&#8217;s time to turn our attention inward.</p>
<p>The war in Iraq had many reasons, the main one being a more secure future rather than a more secure present. Get that out of the way, shake up the status quo, get the ball rolling for permanent changes in ME societies and governance, then turn back inward to handle the immediate threat of Islamism inside our borders.</p>
<p>The Left/Democrats/Liberals (whatever we want to name those opposed to Iraq) while possibly able to understand the local front (time will tell) never did, and still don&#8217;t, understand the long term benefits of the foreign front as manifest in Iraq.</p>
<p>No matter. Bush basically accomplished that end of it and if his opponents at home would stop their three-year-old harping about a fete accompli, we can possibly come together to fight the local front.</p>
<p>Possibly. or not. Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Wrght</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Wrght</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks I just laid down this challenge to the LIZAROIDS over at LGF perhaps there are some who would like to help as well:



Doesn&#039;t cost anything and besides it will drive the MSM nuts!  A little pys-ops from us.



*****



&lt;b&gt;LIZARDOIDS TO WAR!&lt;/b&gt;



[...]



Lizardoid we need to harness the energy of the Blogos  to strike the enemy at it&#039;s very heart &lt;b&gt;THE MAD MULLAHS OF IRAN&lt;/b&gt; for the world&#039;s very first digital revolution.



This is the fastest way of building critical mass to generate a self-sustaining reaction in the Blogos. We can&#039;t wait for the LL and the MSM to wake up from their stupor.  They&#039;re a large &quot;turd&quot; in the toilet blocking and filtering information critical to the American people.  FIRE !



We have very little time left to take advantage of a strategic opportunity staring us in the face. The fall of the Iranian regime will deliver a crushing if not fatal blow to the enemy in the GWOT.



The Mad Mullahs of Iran will melt in the intense light of the free world just like the Wicked Witch of the East did in the Wizard of OZ.



[...]



&lt;a href=&quot;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16698#c0120&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LGF Link&lt;/a&gt;




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks I just laid down this challenge to the LIZAROIDS over at LGF perhaps there are some who would like to help as well:</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t cost anything and besides it will drive the MSM nuts!  A little pys-ops from us.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p><b>LIZARDOIDS TO WAR!</b></p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Lizardoid we need to harness the energy of the Blogos  to strike the enemy at it&#8217;s very heart <b>THE MAD MULLAHS OF IRAN</b> for the world&#8217;s very first digital revolution.</p>
<p>This is the fastest way of building critical mass to generate a self-sustaining reaction in the Blogos. We can&#8217;t wait for the LL and the MSM to wake up from their stupor.  They&#8217;re a large &#8220;turd&#8221; in the toilet blocking and filtering information critical to the American people.  FIRE !</p>
<p>We have very little time left to take advantage of a strategic opportunity staring us in the face. The fall of the Iranian regime will deliver a crushing if not fatal blow to the enemy in the GWOT.</p>
<p>The Mad Mullahs of Iran will melt in the intense light of the free world just like the Wicked Witch of the East did in the Wizard of OZ.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16698#c0120" rel="nofollow">LGF Link</a></p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<description>Nice comment on root causes by Pooh at &lt;a href=&quot;http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/2005/07/indy_comes_out_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daily Ablution&lt;/a&gt;.



&lt;i&gt;Like millions of other Jews, my great-grandmother was born into a life of terrible poverty and even worse discrimination in a small town in the Pale of Settlement. She never attended school and could not read or write. Her earliest memories were of death, pogroms, hunger and cold.&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;i&gt;Escaping to England with just a few roubles in her pocket, she spent the next few years helping raise her younger brother and sisters and working 12-14 hour days in various sweatshops. On Saturdays, she got up at 4 in the morning to &quot;stand markets&quot; so she could earn a little extra to help feed and clothe her family. Not a few times, she was called a &quot;dirty Jew&quot; and told to &quot;go back to Palestine.&quot; On at least two occasions, children threw stones at her.&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;i&gt;Starting a business with her recently demobbed husband who had spent four years fighting in the trenches, she made her way up the ladder inch by painful inch. During World War II, she personally helped save many Jews from the gas chambers. The Jewish inhabitants of her own town were all murdered. She died possessed of a considerable fortune at age 86 in her very beautiful home in Hampstead. All of her children and grandchildren were or would become university graduates. All of her children and grandchildren attended private schools. Having been gassed in the trenches, her husband never really regained his health, and died in his late 30s leaving her to cope alone with a growing family and burgeoning business.&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;i&gt;If you would have talked to her about root causes and revenge, she would have thought you were completely mad.&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice comment on root causes by Pooh at <a href="http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/2005/07/indy_comes_out_.html" rel="nofollow">Daily Ablution</a>.</p>
<p><i>Like millions of other Jews, my great-grandmother was born into a life of terrible poverty and even worse discrimination in a small town in the Pale of Settlement. She never attended school and could not read or write. Her earliest memories were of death, pogroms, hunger and cold.</i></p>
<p><i>Escaping to England with just a few roubles in her pocket, she spent the next few years helping raise her younger brother and sisters and working 12-14 hour days in various sweatshops. On Saturdays, she got up at 4 in the morning to &#8220;stand markets&#8221; so she could earn a little extra to help feed and clothe her family. Not a few times, she was called a &#8220;dirty Jew&#8221; and told to &#8220;go back to Palestine.&#8221; On at least two occasions, children threw stones at her.</i></p>
<p><i>Starting a business with her recently demobbed husband who had spent four years fighting in the trenches, she made her way up the ladder inch by painful inch. During World War II, she personally helped save many Jews from the gas chambers. The Jewish inhabitants of her own town were all murdered. She died possessed of a considerable fortune at age 86 in her very beautiful home in Hampstead. All of her children and grandchildren were or would become university graduates. All of her children and grandchildren attended private schools. Having been gassed in the trenches, her husband never really regained his health, and died in his late 30s leaving her to cope alone with a growing family and burgeoning business.</i></p>
<p><i>If you would have talked to her about root causes and revenge, she would have thought you were completely mad.</i></p>
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