Comments on: “London and Optimism” http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/ The blog of the mystery writer, screenwriter and CEO of Pajamas Media Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:24:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: amba http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57857 amba Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:06:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57857 OK, Jerry, I checked that assertion ("Violent crime rates are far higher in Great Britain then they are here") with a knowledgeable Brit correspondent -- Euan Semple at <a href="http://www.theobviousblog.net/blog/" rel="nofollow">The Obvious?</a> His verdict: "Absolute nonsense. Yes the figure has gone up in recent years but it is nothing like the level it is in the US. We average around 600 - 800 murders a year, the vast majority of which are domestic crimes. Less than 100 of the murders involve firearms." Maybe you're counting face-slappings and fistfights? OK, Jerry, I checked that assertion (“Violent crime rates are far higher in Great Britain then they are here”) with a knowledgeable Brit correspondent — Euan Semple at The Obvious? His verdict:

“Absolute nonsense. Yes the figure has gone up in recent years but it is nothing like the level it is in the US. We average around 600 – 800 murders a year, the vast majority of which are domestic crimes. Less than 100 of the murders involve firearms.”

Maybe you’re counting face-slappings and fistfights?

]]> By: amba http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57856 amba Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:49:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57856 Jerry wrote: <i>Violent crime rates are far higher in Great Britain then they are here.</i> They are?? Jerry wrote: Violent crime rates are far higher in Great Britain then they are here.

They are??

]]> By: richard mcenroe http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57855 richard mcenroe Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:03:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57855 Oh, and PeterUK,,, since you've been waiting for it so patiently... "That's right, madam, and these Fokkers were Messerschmitts..." Oh, and PeterUK,,, since you’ve been waiting for it so patiently…

“That’s right, madam, and these Fokkers were Messerschmitts…”

]]> By: Greg http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57854 Greg Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:00:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57854 The US didn't exist until after the War of Independence so simply put it was Brits beating other Brits. Sorry chaps! The US didn’t exist until after the War of Independence so simply put it was Brits beating other Brits. Sorry chaps!

]]> By: PeterUK http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57853 PeterUK Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:19:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57853 David Thomson, It is a mistake to confuse the effete liberal elite and Guardianistas with the British people as a whole.The British are far more stoic in the face of adversity. It is not our Media and opposition parties who whine at every casualty and set back in Iraq,in fact the WoT is very under reported.The American blogs were quite a shock to me with the endless MSM negativity and political opportunism regarding Iraq,but reading those here and elsewhere I don't believe that America will buckle. We are still a democracy,no politician,no matter how politically correct,can afford to ignore the will of the electorate, a majority of whom believe that the government has bent too far in accommodating Islamism.After the London bombing the "moral superiority" of the elite will be trampled in the dust. This is Tony Blairs project,his responsibility,he and his party will have to make their minds up on whose side they are. David Thomson,

It is a mistake to confuse the effete liberal elite and Guardianistas with the British people as a whole.The British are far more stoic in the face of adversity.

It is not our Media and opposition parties who whine at every casualty and set back in Iraq,in fact the WoT is very under reported.The American blogs were quite a shock to me with the endless MSM negativity and political opportunism regarding Iraq,but reading those here and elsewhere I don’t believe that America will buckle.

We are still a democracy,no politician,no matter how politically correct,can afford to ignore the will of the electorate, a majority of whom believe that the government has bent too far in accommodating Islamism.After the London bombing the “moral superiority” of the elite will be trampled in the dust.

This is Tony Blairs project,his responsibility,he and his party will have to make their minds up on whose side they are.

]]> By: David Thomson http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57852 David Thomson Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:02:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57852 ìOur best and brightest flew Spitfires.î Those Spitfires aimed their guns at the invaders. Will Great Britain be able to combat the enemies within? I am just not that optimistic. Political correctness was not a problem in WWII. ìOur best and brightest flew Spitfires.î

Those Spitfires aimed their guns at the invaders. Will Great Britain be able to combat the enemies within? I am just not that optimistic. Political correctness was not a problem in WWII.

]]> By: PeterUK http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57851 PeterUK Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:52:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57851 Our best and brightest flew Spitfires. Our best and brightest flew Spitfires.

]]> By: David Thomson http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57850 David Thomson Sat, 09 Jul 2005 04:18:57 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57850 "...it was their best and brightest (just ask them) in the 1930's who convinced Hitler the UK would fall as easily as the rest of Europe with their Oxford Oath not to fight for King and Country..." Amen. John Derbyshire and I do not think that Great Britain will truly confront the Islamic nihilists: ìYes, Britain will ìdo a Spain.î I am sure of it. Britainís Spain will not be as dramatic or obvious as Spainís Spain, for the reasons I started out by enumerating. The British anyway have far, far more experience of appeasement than the Spaniards. They know how to do it slowly, imperceptibly, so that nobody much notices. You could ask a Turkish Cypriot, or a white Rhodesian, or of course an Ulsterman.î http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200507080805.asp I expect the English will wimp out due to their politically correct inclinations. Letís hope that Derbyshire and I are wrong. “…it was their best and brightest (just ask them) in the 1930′s who convinced Hitler the UK would fall as easily as the rest of Europe with their Oxford Oath not to fight for King and Country…”

Amen. John Derbyshire and I do not think that Great Britain will truly confront the Islamic nihilists:

ìYes, Britain will ìdo a Spain.î I am sure of it. Britainís Spain will not be as dramatic or obvious as Spainís Spain, for the reasons I started out by enumerating. The British anyway have far, far more experience of appeasement than the Spaniards. They know how to do it slowly, imperceptibly, so that nobody much notices. You could ask a Turkish Cypriot, or a white Rhodesian, or of course an Ulsterman.î

http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200507080805.asp

I expect the English will wimp out due to their politically correct inclinations. Letís hope that Derbyshire and I are wrong.

]]> By: richard mcenroe http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57849 richard mcenroe Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:26:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57849 It will be interesting to see what the British do. While I have faith in Britons generally, remember, it was their best and brightest (just ask them) in the 1930's who convinced Hitler the UK would fall as easily as the rest of Europe with their Oxford Oath <i>not</i> to fight for King and Country... It will be interesting to see what the British do. While I have faith in Britons generally, remember, it was their best and brightest (just ask them) in the 1930′s who convinced Hitler the UK would fall as easily as the rest of Europe with their Oxford Oath not to fight for King and Country…

]]> By: Kevin P http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57848 Kevin P Fri, 08 Jul 2005 21:16:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/07/london-and-optimism/#comment-57848 PeterUK: Thats not all you Brits have done, at least in the past. In addition to going back to work you also would make sure that those who bombed your city lived to regret their act in a serious fashion. Kevin Peters PeterUK:

Thats not all you Brits have done, at least in the past. In addition to going back to work you also would make sure that those who bombed your city lived to regret their act in a serious fashion.

Kevin Peters

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