Comments on: No More Israeli Drones for China

By: Mike in Cali

Mike in Cali — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:17:24 +0000

First of all Israel would not be where they are without the U.S. So by deliberately selling advanced weaponry to China who is in up and coming adversary for the U.S. would be like the U.S. selling weapons to Hamas or Hizbollah. Its a clear case of betrayal and back stabbing that the Israelis pulled on the Americans because of greed. The weapons transfered to China was not only the Lavi which in my opinion is insignificant compared to the Israeli Python III which is the equal to our most recent upgraded Sidewinder air to air missile. On top of that the transfer of the HARPY U.A.V. which can take out radar. Also many consider the $2billion in aid to be nothing. But that is to help the Jews develop their own weapons and they save by not having to buy from us. They then turn around and sell that tech to other nations and make a profit. And Israel is the wealthiest nation we give aid to where their per capita is higher than Greece and Spain. I say let Israel develop their own tech and keep our hard earn tax money for ourselves.

By: richard mcenroe

richard mcenroe — Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:36:28 +0000

gk ó The point is, once again Israel is being held to a standard the rest of the world is blithely and profitably ignoring.

By: Justin Raimondo

Justin Raimondo — Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:46:30 +0000

Isn’t it a little … odd to be describing an investigation into espionage as “harrassment”? After all, the indictment is pretty damning. What if CAIR had been doing precisely what the policy director of AIPAC was doing — only, instead of funneling sensitive documents to an Israeli embassy official, they were handing off top secret information to, say, the Egyptian or Saudi embassy?

By: gk

gk — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:34:58 +0000

This is NUTS! How can you defend an allie selling U.S derived weapons to China? WTF? The fact this is even in the papers is embarassing enough as we asked them for years to cease and dissist. I can’t believe Israels need for a little pocket change is worth spoiling a friendship with it’s biggest supporter. I must say if this were France doing this I’m guessing most of the people here would have a coniption fit.

By: mikem

mikem — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:10:08 +0000

JeremyR’s comment is on the money. I support America’s kneejerk support of Israel because I think it is the “right thing to do”. It is certainly not in America’s self interest to have half the world denouncing us because of that support, but we do it anyway. So if all these laughable cries for Israeli independence from U.S. interference and meddling are loud enough and sincerely believed, many Americans and all leftists will gladly join their voices.

Then we will watch Israel stand alone against the rest of the world and probably watch a nuclear exchange in the Middle East.

My advice to Israeli leaders is be brave, be true to your people and don’t be stupid.

By: richard mcenroe

richard mcenroe — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:28:16 +0000

JeremyR ó I think you might have that backwards. The Indian MiG-29 pilots gave our Eagle drivers a LOT to think about during recent joing exercises; performance-wise, it’s on a par with the F/A18. The Lavi is older and lower-tech all around; the USN uses them for dissimilar ACT…

By: JeremyR

JeremyR — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:59:09 +0000

And yes, what Israel has done is much worse than Russia selling China Mig-29s. As the article mentioned, they basically gave China the Lavi, which was sort of an advanced version of the F16 that was a joint project between the US and Israel before getting cancelled.

So now basically China’s fighters consist not of old rather lousy Migs, but advanced F16 knock offs. Thanks to Israel.

By: JeremyR

JeremyR — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:53:37 +0000

It’s funny how when France wants to sell weapons to China people get in an uproar. But when Israel is forced to stop selling weapons and weapons technology to China (an ongoing practice for some years), the same people defend Israel.

Israel is a very polarizing country, but it runs in both ways. Some people criticize it unfairly, but at the same time, many people defend it unfairly, too.

The truth is, like any other country, Israel does some bad stuff, and in this case, essentially selling out the only country that supports it completely (the US) to a rival (China) for a few bucks is something that is pretty lousy.

You could say the US does the same thing with 2 of Israel’s rivals, Jordan & Egypt, but we only do so because of a peace treaty.

Stuff like this makes me become an isolationist – just ignore the rest of the world, because they’ll just stab you in the back given a chance.

By: richard mcenroe

richard mcenroe — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:02:42 +0000

Are these worse than the fire control systems they got for their tanks from the UK or the radars they got from France? The MiG-29′s they got from Russia?

By: Buddy Larsen

Buddy Larsen — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:42:13 +0000

I’d assumed the gizmos would go with wicked little trojan horses installed. Alas.