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	<title>Comments on: We have a winner in Iran, ladies and gentlemen&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/24/we-have-a-winner-in-iran-ladies-and-gentlemen/#comment-55485</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ìBut I still speculate as to whether they are willful liars or simply, as Rick Ballard points out, people whose quasi-religion at this point is Bush-bashing.î



I adamantly encourage you to continue speculating on their motives and state of mind.  We must thoroughly understand these people.  Thatís not my point.  I just want to make sure that we realize that our first duty is to marginalize them.  They must be rendered harmless.



Too often in our society everything is suppose to be overlooked as long as someone has good intentions.  This is nonsensical.  One can also be well meaning person---and do a hell of lot of destruction.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ìBut I still speculate as to whether they are willful liars or simply, as Rick Ballard points out, people whose quasi-religion at this point is Bush-bashing.î</p>
<p>I adamantly encourage you to continue speculating on their motives and state of mind.  We must thoroughly understand these people.  Thatís not my point.  I just want to make sure that we realize that our first duty is to marginalize them.  They must be rendered harmless.</p>
<p>Too often in our society everything is suppose to be overlooked as long as someone has good intentions.  This is nonsensical.  One can also be well meaning person&#8212;and do a hell of lot of destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: neo-neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>neo-neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Thomson: I agree with you that the state of their souls isn&#039;t really the point.  But I can&#039;t help but wonder, if only out of deep curiosity. After all, as a former liberal Democrat (now &lt;a href=&quot;http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/03/so-why-neo-neocon.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;neo-neocon&lt;/a&gt;), I used to actually trust these people, and believe they were interested in seeking the truth.



Dummy me, I guess.  But I still speculate as to whether they are willful liars or simply, as Rick Ballard points out, people whose quasi-religion at this point is Bush-bashing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Thomson: I agree with you that the state of their souls isn&#8217;t really the point.  But I can&#8217;t help but wonder, if only out of deep curiosity. After all, as a former liberal Democrat (now <a href="http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/03/so-why-neo-neocon.html" rel="nofollow">neo-neocon</a>), I used to actually trust these people, and believe they were interested in seeking the truth.</p>
<p>Dummy me, I guess.  But I still speculate as to whether they are willful liars or simply, as Rick Ballard points out, people whose quasi-religion at this point is Bush-bashing.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better fuel up the KC-135s and dust-off the Bunker-Busters.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better fuel up the KC-135s and dust-off the Bunker-Busters.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony (Los Angeles)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony (Los Angeles)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s almost as appalling as the farcical election itself is the cliched &quot;analysis&quot; of the MSM, pigeon-holing Ahmadinejad as a &quot;hardliner&quot; or &quot;ultra-conservative&quot; and Rafsanjani as a &quot;moderate.&quot; In the case of Iran, that&#039;s like trying to distinguish between moderate and hardline Nazis -- they&#039;re still Nazis. The lazy reporting in the MSM misleads people by using words like &quot;conservative&quot; and &quot;moderate&quot; to which most readers will apply their own &lt;i&gt;American&lt;/i&gt; understandings.



On the other hand, I read an interesting analysis (i.e., non-MSM) the other day --was it one of Ledeen&#039;s?-- arguing that the surprising rise of Ahmadinejad may not have represented the pre-determined decision of the Guardian Council, but a power-play by radicals within the Revolutionary Guard and other para-military groups. Ahmadinejad himself was once head of the Guard. If so, we may be watching the external signs of a palace coup.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s almost as appalling as the farcical election itself is the cliched &#8220;analysis&#8221; of the MSM, pigeon-holing Ahmadinejad as a &#8220;hardliner&#8221; or &#8220;ultra-conservative&#8221; and Rafsanjani as a &#8220;moderate.&#8221; In the case of Iran, that&#8217;s like trying to distinguish between moderate and hardline Nazis &#8212; they&#8217;re still Nazis. The lazy reporting in the MSM misleads people by using words like &#8220;conservative&#8221; and &#8220;moderate&#8221; to which most readers will apply their own <i>American</i> understandings.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I read an interesting analysis (i.e., non-MSM) the other day &#8211;was it one of Ledeen&#8217;s?&#8211; arguing that the surprising rise of Ahmadinejad may not have represented the pre-determined decision of the Guardian Council, but a power-play by radicals within the Revolutionary Guard and other para-military groups. Ahmadinejad himself was once head of the Guard. If so, we may be watching the external signs of a palace coup.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ìSo, what I want to know is this: do the folks at Reuters actually believe the drivel they write? Or do they purposely lie through their teeth?î



Are they nice to stray cats and spend time with the elderly and others needing comfort?  Do they consciously lie or are just intellectually confused?  The hell with the abstract argumentation. I donít primarily care to debate the state of their souls.   We should merely focus on the the need to marginalize these people as quickly as possible.  They are, on the practical level, our enemy.  Thatís ultimately all we need to know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ìSo, what I want to know is this: do the folks at Reuters actually believe the drivel they write? Or do they purposely lie through their teeth?î</p>
<p>Are they nice to stray cats and spend time with the elderly and others needing comfort?  Do they consciously lie or are just intellectually confused?  The hell with the abstract argumentation. I donít primarily care to debate the state of their souls.   We should merely focus on the the need to marginalize these people as quickly as possible.  They are, on the practical level, our enemy.  Thatís ultimately all we need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Poling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Poling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid that by &quot;modern and advanced&quot; he merely means &quot;nuclear powered&quot;.



Sigh.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid that by &#8220;modern and advanced&#8221; he merely means &#8220;nuclear powered&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Snippet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snippet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... a modern, advanced, powerful, and Islamic&#039;&#039; model for the world.



Sorry big fellah.



You can have &quot;modern and advanced&quot;



or you can have &quot;Islamic&quot;



but you can&#039;t have all three any more than you can square a circle.



And when the spiral of failure and frustration picks up speed, guess who will get blamed?



It&#039;s like watching a car accident unfold in slow motion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; a modern, advanced, powerful, and Islamic&#8221; model for the world.</p>
<p>Sorry big fellah.</p>
<p>You can have &#8220;modern and advanced&#8221;</p>
<p>or you can have &#8220;Islamic&#8221;</p>
<p>but you can&#8217;t have all three any more than you can square a circle.</p>
<p>And when the spiral of failure and frustration picks up speed, guess who will get blamed?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like watching a car accident unfold in slow motion.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...the MSM continue to disgust me with their suicidal pandering.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;



Maybe the message is, &quot;It&#039;s worth &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; to get rid of Bush, and we want the American voter to &lt;i&gt;understand&lt;/i&gt; that either you dump the whole lot, or we will commit suicide--and take you with us.



Look into Curt Weldon, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.humaneventsonline.com/offers/offer.php?id=CDT002&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read an excerpt&lt;/a&gt; from his book.








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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;the MSM continue to disgust me with their suicidal pandering.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Maybe the message is, &#8220;It&#8217;s worth <i>anything</i> to get rid of Bush, and we want the American voter to <i>understand</i> that either you dump the whole lot, or we will commit suicide&#8211;and take you with us.</p>
<p>Look into Curt Weldon, and <a href="http://members.humaneventsonline.com/offers/offer.php?id=CDT002" rel="nofollow">read an excerpt</a> from his book.</p>
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		<title>By: ShrinkWrapped</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShrinkWrapped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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Here is how the New York Times mis-reported this mornign on the Iranian vote:



&quot;TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- The winner of Iran&#039;s presidential election, whose landslide victory dealt a setback to reformers, said Saturday he seeks to make his country a &#039;&#039;modern, advanced, powerful, and Islamic&#039;&#039; model for the world.

...

The results, announced on state television, gave Ahmadinejad, currently Tehran&#039;s mayor, 61.6 percent of the vote over Rafsanjani&#039;s 35.9 percent. The rest of the ballots were deemed invalid.

Nearly 28 million ballots were cast, or more than 59 percent of Iran&#039;s approximately 47 million eligible voters. In last week&#039;s election, the turnout was close to 63 percent.&quot;



I read the entire article (my new motto: &quot;The New York Times: I read it so you don&#039;t have to!&quot;) and surprisingly enough (NOT) there is no mention of the empty polling places that Dr. Zin has pictures of.  After the first vote, reporters admitted they only were taken to a very few select polling sites, weren&#039;t allowed out of sight of their handlers, and had no real idea of the turn-out, despite which they knew there were lots of irregularities.

This election was a vote by the ruling Mullahs to tighten up their fascist state; Ledeen comments on some street fighting between some of the bad guys and some of the worse guys.  It is unlikely to make life better for the Iranians.

And now the MSM shills for another group of neo-Hitlerians; the MSM continue to disgust me with their suicidal pandering.
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<p>Here is how the New York Times mis-reported this mornign on the Iranian vote:</p>
<p>&#8220;TEHRAN, Iran (AP) &#8212; The winner of Iran&#8217;s presidential election, whose landslide victory dealt a setback to reformers, said Saturday he seeks to make his country a &#8221;modern, advanced, powerful, and Islamic&#8221; model for the world.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>The results, announced on state television, gave Ahmadinejad, currently Tehran&#8217;s mayor, 61.6 percent of the vote over Rafsanjani&#8217;s 35.9 percent. The rest of the ballots were deemed invalid.</p>
<p>Nearly 28 million ballots were cast, or more than 59 percent of Iran&#8217;s approximately 47 million eligible voters. In last week&#8217;s election, the turnout was close to 63 percent.&#8221;</p>
<p>I read the entire article (my new motto: &#8220;The New York Times: I read it so you don&#8217;t have to!&#8221;) and surprisingly enough (NOT) there is no mention of the empty polling places that Dr. Zin has pictures of.  After the first vote, reporters admitted they only were taken to a very few select polling sites, weren&#8217;t allowed out of sight of their handlers, and had no real idea of the turn-out, despite which they knew there were lots of irregularities.</p>
<p>This election was a vote by the ruling Mullahs to tighten up their fascist state; Ledeen comments on some street fighting between some of the bad guys and some of the worse guys.  It is unlikely to make life better for the Iranians.</p>
<p>And now the MSM shills for another group of neo-Hitlerians; the MSM continue to disgust me with their suicidal pandering.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NNC,



Think of the OneWorlder Internationalist MSM as snake handling fundamentalists who speak only in tongues and have had a revelation that Bush is the anti-Christ.



Every word they write has to be read with that understanding. If you do so, it&#039;s all very clear.



j.d.



Reuters fears B16 more than Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NNC,</p>
<p>Think of the OneWorlder Internationalist MSM as snake handling fundamentalists who speak only in tongues and have had a revelation that Bush is the anti-Christ.</p>
<p>Every word they write has to be read with that understanding. If you do so, it&#8217;s all very clear.</p>
<p>j.d.</p>
<p>Reuters fears B16 more than Bush.</p>
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