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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55180</link>
		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again, stuff &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4618341.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like this&lt;/a&gt; makes international action - not only in Zimbabwe but everywhere in Africa - very difficult.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, stuff <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4618341.stm" rel="nofollow">like this</a> makes international action &#8211; not only in Zimbabwe but everywhere in Africa &#8211; very difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55179</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know it is considered bad form to use the Nazi comparison,but what is the difference between Mugabe&#039;s regime and Hitlers&quot;



Some differences:



1) What Hitler achieved was accomplished with the overwhelming support of the German and Austrian peoples and the almost total collaboration of the nations of occupied Europe. What Mugabe does, he does, if not alone, with little support apart from his squads of goons and political placemen. Hitler&#039;s regime in that it played to the anti-Semitic sentiments of much of Europe also belonged to Europe (as the occupied Poles used to say, &quot;When Hitler dies, we will go to his grave to spit on it. We will then return to bring him flowers to thank him for helping us get rid of the Jews). Again, Mugabe&#039;s depredations belong to him almost alone.



2) The chief aim of the Holocaust was to wipe out every living Jew on the face of the planet together with every aspect of Jewish culture. To this end, the vast majority of most Jews in Central and Eastern Europe were murdered according to a detailed blueprint of institutionalised mass-murder. Mugabe has not committed genocide, carefully planned or otherwise, or indeed, anything even approximating it.



3) While the UK might be turning its back, there is no suggestion that it would participate in Mugabe&#039;s crimes. Not so the virulently anti-Semitic UK, which fought World War II despite the Jews and not because of them. From her objections to helping the Jews at Evian and Bermuda to her refusal to spare even one bomber to bomb the railway tracks leading to Auschwitz, and from the vicious Jew-hatred of the UK Foreign Office to her neo-Nazi behavior in post-war Palestine, little if anything seperated the UK from the rest of Europe in terms of the Holocaust.



These constant comparisons in which the UK is awash at the moment are not just &quot;bad form&quot;, but also are quite obviously, in that they attempt to deliberately diminish the importance of the Holocaust, just another form of Holocaust denial.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know it is considered bad form to use the Nazi comparison,but what is the difference between Mugabe&#8217;s regime and Hitlers&#8221;</p>
<p>Some differences:</p>
<p>1) What Hitler achieved was accomplished with the overwhelming support of the German and Austrian peoples and the almost total collaboration of the nations of occupied Europe. What Mugabe does, he does, if not alone, with little support apart from his squads of goons and political placemen. Hitler&#8217;s regime in that it played to the anti-Semitic sentiments of much of Europe also belonged to Europe (as the occupied Poles used to say, &#8220;When Hitler dies, we will go to his grave to spit on it. We will then return to bring him flowers to thank him for helping us get rid of the Jews). Again, Mugabe&#8217;s depredations belong to him almost alone.</p>
<p>2) The chief aim of the Holocaust was to wipe out every living Jew on the face of the planet together with every aspect of Jewish culture. To this end, the vast majority of most Jews in Central and Eastern Europe were murdered according to a detailed blueprint of institutionalised mass-murder. Mugabe has not committed genocide, carefully planned or otherwise, or indeed, anything even approximating it.</p>
<p>3) While the UK might be turning its back, there is no suggestion that it would participate in Mugabe&#8217;s crimes. Not so the virulently anti-Semitic UK, which fought World War II despite the Jews and not because of them. From her objections to helping the Jews at Evian and Bermuda to her refusal to spare even one bomber to bomb the railway tracks leading to Auschwitz, and from the vicious Jew-hatred of the UK Foreign Office to her neo-Nazi behavior in post-war Palestine, little if anything seperated the UK from the rest of Europe in terms of the Holocaust.</p>
<p>These constant comparisons in which the UK is awash at the moment are not just &#8220;bad form&#8221;, but also are quite obviously, in that they attempt to deliberately diminish the importance of the Holocaust, just another form of Holocaust denial.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55178</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Bono? Where is Dr. Jeffrey Sachs who castigates the US for being the pauper on African aid?



One might say it is easier to demand money than to overthrow dictators, but when all the shouting stops;  isn&#039;t that what going into Iraq was all about? Making choices, having the courage to do something, wending one&#039;s way throught the thicket of politics and the morass of diplomacy;  to do the right thing for an oppressed people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Bono? Where is Dr. Jeffrey Sachs who castigates the US for being the pauper on African aid?</p>
<p>One might say it is easier to demand money than to overthrow dictators, but when all the shouting stops;  isn&#8217;t that what going into Iraq was all about? Making choices, having the courage to do something, wending one&#8217;s way throught the thicket of politics and the morass of diplomacy;  to do the right thing for an oppressed people.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55177</link>
		<dc:creator>jedrury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[W]e expect South Africa to do everything in

its power to bring Mugabe and his henchmen down by whatever means it takes . . .&quot; and then the Normblog writes about &quot;the silence of Mbeki.&quot; Unfortunately, regrettably, Mbeki, a very poor successor to Mandela, has been silent and full of avoidance. Some response to this silence is called for.



So, where is Condi? We were writing about her as presidential material only yesterday.



Is the only response, the unsparing devastating indictment from the Normblog?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[W]e expect South Africa to do everything in</p>
<p>its power to bring Mugabe and his henchmen down by whatever means it takes . . .&#8221; and then the Normblog writes about &#8220;the silence of Mbeki.&#8221; Unfortunately, regrettably, Mbeki, a very poor successor to Mandela, has been silent and full of avoidance. Some response to this silence is called for.</p>
<p>So, where is Condi? We were writing about her as presidential material only yesterday.</p>
<p>Is the only response, the unsparing devastating indictment from the Normblog?</p>
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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55176</link>
		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the (somewhat tarnished) silver lining is that Zimbabwe still has industry, reasonable infrastructure by African standards anyway and the beginnings of an educated middle class.



So if this bastard can be overthrown and replaced with a constitutional government before that middle class withers away, there is still a very good chance the country could revive and prosper.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the (somewhat tarnished) silver lining is that Zimbabwe still has industry, reasonable infrastructure by African standards anyway and the beginnings of an educated middle class.</p>
<p>So if this bastard can be overthrown and replaced with a constitutional government before that middle class withers away, there is still a very good chance the country could revive and prosper.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We watch as genocide is committed before our eyes. We watch.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We watch as genocide is committed before our eyes. We watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55174</link>
		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter:



I was in Zim around 1997 and again I guess in 2000 or so.  All I met could see the brutality right around the corner except of course the whites who tended toward denial.  Nobody else was so easily fooled.



It was once an incredibly fertile, productive and beautiful place.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter:</p>
<p>I was in Zim around 1997 and again I guess in 2000 or so.  All I met could see the brutality right around the corner except of course the whites who tended toward denial.  Nobody else was so easily fooled.</p>
<p>It was once an incredibly fertile, productive and beautiful place.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it is considered bad form to use the Nazi comparison,but what is the difference between Mugabe&#039;s regime and Hitlers,only one of degree and  technology.Is there any doubt that If Mugabe had the resources of the Third Reich he would use them?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it is considered bad form to use the Nazi comparison,but what is the difference between Mugabe&#8217;s regime and Hitlers,only one of degree and  technology.Is there any doubt that If Mugabe had the resources of the Third Reich he would use them?</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55172</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UN is too busy with far more important matters to bother about such little things as the rape of an entire country by an evil dictator. What matters, they ask? Charles Johnson has it all covered at LGF:



UN Springs Into Action, Condemns US



http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16343_UN_Springs_Into_Action_Condemns_US&amp;only
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN is too busy with far more important matters to bother about such little things as the rape of an entire country by an evil dictator. What matters, they ask? Charles Johnson has it all covered at LGF:</p>
<p>UN Springs Into Action, Condemns US</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16343_UN_Springs_Into_Action_Condemns_US&#038;only" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16343_UN_Springs_Into_Action_Condemns_US&#038;only</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skookumchuk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/zimbabwe-roundup/#comment-55171</link>
		<dc:creator>Skookumchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/06/zimbabwes_agony.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here it is.&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/06/zimbabwes_agony.html" rel="nofollow">Here it is.</a></p>
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