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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/23/its-been-called-the-biggest-terrorism-trial-since-9-11/#comment-55377</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:



The question that needs to be answered is why they decided to stop covering it. The prosecution is going to slow and there isn&#039;t any news isn&#039;t passing the smell test. My guess is that the emotional story of the father and the gory details of murder doesn&#039;t present the proper PC image of moderate muslims that they strive to present. Lets see if they don&#039;t give fuller coverage to the defense. Just as Durbin was considered back page coverage and Rove gets the page 1 treatment the sudden blackout is no suprise.



If this trial was about a Palestinian victim of a Isreali bulldozer it would be front page and the martyr buildup would be going ahead full steam. How can a trial about death and possible(I don&#039;t want to hear the you are convicting him before the trial has begun song) monetary and emotional support of foreign terrorists by an American citizen not be big news.



The ho hum attitude about people who openly plot and plan terror in our country is exactly how 9-11 came about. When the Hart- Rudmann report came out with it&#039;s dire warnings that proved to be true it did not get the Abu Ghraib month long front page barrage. The Media, both Parties and all citizens stuck their heads in the sand and suffered the sad fate of 9-11. Myself included.



The MSM went ballistic on the hint,later proved a lie, that gitmo guards were flushing Korans down the toilet. The resulting facts have morphed into the absurd MSM cliche of Koran abuse. Print a rumour, when the facts come out and the mistreatment is so minor that the coverage now looks completely out of proportion yet still retain the scary tag of abuse that started with the original rumour.



He may be not guilty. But the entire country needs to have a full explanation and daily coverage, whether he is guilty or innocent. If the NYT has company in it&#039;s laziness then fine. But they call themselves the paper of record and their readers will be kept ignorant about the state of this case. Someone needs to explain why the trial for supporting a terrorist group that gets possible aid for it&#039;s murderous plans from an American teacher is not news, vitally important news.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>The question that needs to be answered is why they decided to stop covering it. The prosecution is going to slow and there isn&#8217;t any news isn&#8217;t passing the smell test. My guess is that the emotional story of the father and the gory details of murder doesn&#8217;t present the proper PC image of moderate muslims that they strive to present. Lets see if they don&#8217;t give fuller coverage to the defense. Just as Durbin was considered back page coverage and Rove gets the page 1 treatment the sudden blackout is no suprise.</p>
<p>If this trial was about a Palestinian victim of a Isreali bulldozer it would be front page and the martyr buildup would be going ahead full steam. How can a trial about death and possible(I don&#8217;t want to hear the you are convicting him before the trial has begun song) monetary and emotional support of foreign terrorists by an American citizen not be big news.</p>
<p>The ho hum attitude about people who openly plot and plan terror in our country is exactly how 9-11 came about. When the Hart- Rudmann report came out with it&#8217;s dire warnings that proved to be true it did not get the Abu Ghraib month long front page barrage. The Media, both Parties and all citizens stuck their heads in the sand and suffered the sad fate of 9-11. Myself included.</p>
<p>The MSM went ballistic on the hint,later proved a lie, that gitmo guards were flushing Korans down the toilet. The resulting facts have morphed into the absurd MSM cliche of Koran abuse. Print a rumour, when the facts come out and the mistreatment is so minor that the coverage now looks completely out of proportion yet still retain the scary tag of abuse that started with the original rumour.</p>
<p>He may be not guilty. But the entire country needs to have a full explanation and daily coverage, whether he is guilty or innocent. If the NYT has company in it&#8217;s laziness then fine. But they call themselves the paper of record and their readers will be kept ignorant about the state of this case. Someone needs to explain why the trial for supporting a terrorist group that gets possible aid for it&#8217;s murderous plans from an American teacher is not news, vitally important news.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patm,



Please do continue to hold your breath. Seek help if you have difficulty.



You made the ellision to reinforce your half assed assertion concerning &quot;The plain implication of your post&quot;. RLS.com is not a news site. Arguing &lt;i&gt;tu quoque ad hominem&lt;/i&gt; here will not gain you debating points. Read the masthead of the NYT - they are the one&#039;s making a claim concerning &quot;all the news&quot;, not Roger.



The story &lt;i&gt;is &lt;/i&gt; important and the MSM in general is not covering it well at all. It might hurt the seditionist movement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patm,</p>
<p>Please do continue to hold your breath. Seek help if you have difficulty.</p>
<p>You made the ellision to reinforce your half assed assertion concerning &#8220;The plain implication of your post&#8221;. RLS.com is not a news site. Arguing <i>tu quoque ad hominem</i> here will not gain you debating points. Read the masthead of the NYT &#8211; they are the one&#8217;s making a claim concerning &#8220;all the news&#8221;, not Roger.</p>
<p>The story <i>is </i> important and the MSM in general is not covering it well at all. It might hurt the seditionist movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Knucklehead&#039;s (the American one) second link:



&quot;&lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt;, though it no longer deserves it, has long been held in high esteem by the journalistic establishment and much of the American public. When the Times abandons even the facade of fairness, respect for all journalism in America suffers.&quot;



No agrument with the underlying premise, but I&#039;m afraid the r-e-s-p-E-c-t train left the station long ago.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Knucklehead&#8217;s (the American one) second link:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>The New York Times</i>, though it no longer deserves it, has long been held in high esteem by the journalistic establishment and much of the American public. When the Times abandons even the facade of fairness, respect for all journalism in America suffers.&#8221;</p>
<p>No agrument with the underlying premise, but I&#8217;m afraid the r-e-s-p-E-c-t train left the station long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll betcha NYTimes is sensitive to the time frame during which Sami&#039;s conspiracy started up and grew like a mushroom in the cellar. Being the newspaper of record, the bias is automatic to damp any groundswell grass-roots realization of how close a call this domestic jihad really was, that but for a few hundred votes in Florida 2000, by now Sami would likely be doing BIG business rather than headin&#039; his murderin&#039; ass to the hoosegow.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll betcha NYTimes is sensitive to the time frame during which Sami&#8217;s conspiracy started up and grew like a mushroom in the cellar. Being the newspaper of record, the bias is automatic to damp any groundswell grass-roots realization of how close a call this domestic jihad really was, that but for a few hundred votes in Florida 2000, by now Sami would likely be doing BIG business rather than headin&#8217; his murderin&#8217; ass to the hoosegow.</p>
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		<title>By: Canucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyda, Knucklehead comes from the smart side of the family.  Me, well I live in Saskatchewan.



You know how it goes, great minds think alike... or so I&#039;m told.  I guess that&#039;s why we are here...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyda, Knucklehead comes from the smart side of the family.  Me, well I live in Saskatchewan.</p>
<p>You know how it goes, great minds think alike&#8230; or so I&#8217;m told.  I guess that&#8217;s why we are here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our local liberal rag, the Daytona Beach (FL) News-Journal, has 20 items under the banner &quot;Florida&quot; on its on-line edition and none of them is news of this trial.



I don&#039;t read the print edition very carefully, so it might be buried somewhere in the paper, but it hasn&#039;t been featured, nor do I expect it will be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our local liberal rag, the Daytona Beach (FL) News-Journal, has 20 items under the banner &#8220;Florida&#8221; on its on-line edition and none of them is news of this trial.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t read the print edition very carefully, so it might be buried somewhere in the paper, but it hasn&#8217;t been featured, nor do I expect it will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patm:



Fox should be covering it but Fox is not considered the paper of record either.



The NYT has made a point of telling anyone who will listen how special they are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patm:</p>
<p>Fox should be covering it but Fox is not considered the paper of record either.</p>
<p>The NYT has made a point of telling anyone who will listen how special they are.</p>
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		<title>By: thibaud</title>
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		<dc:creator>thibaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patm - that other news outlets are dropping the ball on this does not let the NYT off the hook.



These stats (as per searches of the NYT Archive earlier this month) may help you understand Roger&#039;s disdain for the Times.



--NYT articles/op-eds since 3/2003 whose summary, as per the NYT Archive, contains &quot;Abu Ghraib&quot;: 337



--NYT articles/op-eds since 3/2003 whose summary, as per the NYT Archive, contains &quot;Zarqawi&quot;: 19



--NYT articles/op-eds since 3/2003 whose summary, as per the NYT Archive, contains &quot;Al Arian&quot;: 3



We can conclude that in the eyes of the NYT&#039;s editors, the relative importance of these news stories is as follows:



Abu G is ~17 times more important than Zarqawi Abu G is &gt;100 times more important than Al Arian



Is this an accurate reflection of reality? Or is this merely an reflection of the Times&#039; market positioning strategy?



regards,



thibaud




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patm &#8211; that other news outlets are dropping the ball on this does not let the NYT off the hook.</p>
<p>These stats (as per searches of the NYT Archive earlier this month) may help you understand Roger&#8217;s disdain for the Times.</p>
<p>&#8211;NYT articles/op-eds since 3/2003 whose summary, as per the NYT Archive, contains &#8220;Abu Ghraib&#8221;: 337</p>
<p>&#8211;NYT articles/op-eds since 3/2003 whose summary, as per the NYT Archive, contains &#8220;Zarqawi&#8221;: 19</p>
<p>&#8211;NYT articles/op-eds since 3/2003 whose summary, as per the NYT Archive, contains &#8220;Al Arian&#8221;: 3</p>
<p>We can conclude that in the eyes of the NYT&#8217;s editors, the relative importance of these news stories is as follows:</p>
<p>Abu G is ~17 times more important than Zarqawi Abu G is &gt;100 times more important than Al Arian</p>
<p>Is this an accurate reflection of reality? Or is this merely an reflection of the Times&#8217; market positioning strategy?</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>thibaud</p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm2...



Have a look at the comments section of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://hoystory.blogspot.com/2005/06/media-analysis-durbin-vs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hoystory analysis of the NYT coverage of Durbin vs. Rove...



Are NYT defenders showing up elsewhere in unusual numbers?  Two in one day so far...  Probably part of the &lt;i&gt;Vast NYT Conspiracy&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm2&#8230;</p>
<p>Have a look at the comments section of this <a href="http://hoystory.blogspot.com/2005/06/media-analysis-durbin-vs.html" rel="nofollow">Hoystory analysis of the NYT coverage of Durbin vs. Rove&#8230;</p>
<p>Are NYT defenders showing up elsewhere in unusual numbers?  Two in one day so far&#8230;  Probably part of the <i>Vast NYT Conspiracy</i>.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... OT but has Alexander Yakovlev decided to try and take his &lt;a href=&quot;http://media.nationalreview.com/067203.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;revenge&lt;/a&gt;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; OT but has Alexander Yakovlev decided to try and take his <a href="http://media.nationalreview.com/067203.asp" rel="nofollow">revenge</a>?</p>
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