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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54152</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, what they said.



There was a time when Canada stood for something in this world and her fighting men were second to none. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.members.shaw.ca/junobeach/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Juno&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/news/dday/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beach&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rcaf.com/battleofbritain/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Battle of Britain&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fylde.demon.co.uk/arnott1.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;France and Flanders, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-flags/ppcli.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Korea&lt;/a&gt; are but a few examples. Rick Ballard is right, you should spend less time castigating those who cover your now sorry ass and more time reflecting on how and why that ass degenerated into its sorry state.&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, what they said.</p>
<p>There was a time when Canada stood for something in this world and her fighting men were second to none. <a href="http://www.members.shaw.ca/junobeach/" rel="nofollow">Juno</a> <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/dday/" rel="nofollow">Beach</a>, <a href="http://www.rcaf.com/battleofbritain/index.htm" rel="nofollow">Battle of Britain</a>, <a href="http://www.fylde.demon.co.uk/arnott1.htm" rel="nofollow">France and Flanders, </a><a href="http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-flags/ppcli.htm" rel="nofollow">Korea</a> are but a few examples. Rick Ballard is right, you should spend less time castigating those who cover your now sorry ass and more time reflecting on how and why that ass degenerated into its sorry state.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54151</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick

Some Canadians are French.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick</p>
<p>Some Canadians are French.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54150</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me imagine your practical, real-life list:

1) Make Peace

2) Make Everyone Happy

3) Make All Problems Go Away

4) Make Humankind Immortal

5) Make Everybody Love Everybody
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me imagine your practical, real-life list:</p>
<p>1) Make Peace</p>
<p>2) Make Everyone Happy</p>
<p>3) Make All Problems Go Away</p>
<p>4) Make Humankind Immortal</p>
<p>5) Make Everybody Love Everybody</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it matters. That&#039;s what makes you so frustrating, hepwa. You&#039;ve been given a huge gift by the very people you criticize. And you refuse to acknowledge, to give an inch, that the military expedition may in fact be a necessary and thought-through action. The terror war being fought against the West is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/5902.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the real story&lt;/a&gt;, and you ignore it in favor of exploding over the odd anecdotal sub-issues that happen to entertain your existing prejudices.



This is especially despicable in that you get to simultaneously ignore your enemy (who will kill you if your imaginary enemy Bush quits fighting too soon) while letting someone else do the dirty work of protecting you, while you take advantage of the opportunity to treat yourself to an exalted, airy, lofty, feel-good, above-it-all position that you have not earned and could not posture to were it not for real people enabling your entire lifestyle for you--and getting no thanks, but rather hatred, for the privilege.



Let&#039;s play a game. It&#039;s Sept 12 2001 and you&#039;re George Bush. What to do? Top 5 items on your list.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it matters. That&#8217;s what makes you so frustrating, hepwa. You&#8217;ve been given a huge gift by the very people you criticize. And you refuse to acknowledge, to give an inch, that the military expedition may in fact be a necessary and thought-through action. The terror war being fought against the West is <a href="http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/5902.htm" rel="nofollow">the real story</a>, and you ignore it in favor of exploding over the odd anecdotal sub-issues that happen to entertain your existing prejudices.</p>
<p>This is especially despicable in that you get to simultaneously ignore your enemy (who will kill you if your imaginary enemy Bush quits fighting too soon) while letting someone else do the dirty work of protecting you, while you take advantage of the opportunity to treat yourself to an exalted, airy, lofty, feel-good, above-it-all position that you have not earned and could not posture to were it not for real people enabling your entire lifestyle for you&#8211;and getting no thanks, but rather hatred, for the privilege.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s play a game. It&#8217;s Sept 12 2001 and you&#8217;re George Bush. What to do? Top 5 items on your list.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54148</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hepwa,



You know about Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo because of military investigations of allegations. People have been &quot;held responsible&quot; for Abu Ghraib, they have been tried, found guilty and sentenced to prison. The allegations concerning Guantanmo do not rise to the level of &quot;crimes&quot; and any contraventions of standard treatment have been appropriately dealt with.



All of the above has been reported by officers and officials of the US government. The fact that you are seemingly unaware of those reports is simply additional evidence of the depth of your ignorance.



Why don&#039;t you work on the image of the Canadian fighting man? Hitchhiking to the battlefield has made him rather a pathetic figure these days. Given the fact that Canadians have had honorable fighting forces in the distant past I would think your time better spent trying to figure out what happened to Canda&#039;s image.



Kyda&#039;s reference was to you being an idiot - although Lenin did refer to &quot;useful&quot; idiots and I don&#039;t think you make the cut.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hepwa,</p>
<p>You know about Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo because of military investigations of allegations. People have been &#8220;held responsible&#8221; for Abu Ghraib, they have been tried, found guilty and sentenced to prison. The allegations concerning Guantanmo do not rise to the level of &#8220;crimes&#8221; and any contraventions of standard treatment have been appropriately dealt with.</p>
<p>All of the above has been reported by officers and officials of the US government. The fact that you are seemingly unaware of those reports is simply additional evidence of the depth of your ignorance.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you work on the image of the Canadian fighting man? Hitchhiking to the battlefield has made him rather a pathetic figure these days. Given the fact that Canadians have had honorable fighting forces in the distant past I would think your time better spent trying to figure out what happened to Canda&#8217;s image.</p>
<p>Kyda&#8217;s reference was to you being an idiot &#8211; although Lenin did refer to &#8220;useful&#8221; idiots and I don&#8217;t think you make the cut.</p>
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		<title>By: hepwa</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54147</link>
		<dc:creator>hepwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t presume to speak for the Canadian Liberal Party any more than I&#039;d expect a clear-thinking American to speak for theirs.  I have no problem criticizing my government and you shouldn&#039;t be scared to criticize yours.



As far as casualty numbers go, I haven&#039;t seen them discredited exhaustively, but am willing to review whatever statistics you can link me to.  And if those numbers are wrong and only one third of the truth, isn&#039;t it still an outrage?



Kyda, I don&#039;t know where the &quot;Lenin&quot; reference comes from (are you implying that I&#039;m a &quot;Commie&quot;?  that one&#039;s a little old, don&#039;t you think?).  But, you&#039;re right, a lie told enough times is still a lie.  Aren&#039;t you tired of being lied to by your government?  How much more are you willing to put up with?



And, finally (for now), is anyone willing to respond to the question in my previous post?  Should the abuses of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo be made public and those responsible held to account?  Don&#039;t you think that would improve the image of the U.S. military abroad?  If you don&#039;t think it matters, Buddy Larsen, then you&#039;re the one that needs to do some critical thinking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t presume to speak for the Canadian Liberal Party any more than I&#8217;d expect a clear-thinking American to speak for theirs.  I have no problem criticizing my government and you shouldn&#8217;t be scared to criticize yours.</p>
<p>As far as casualty numbers go, I haven&#8217;t seen them discredited exhaustively, but am willing to review whatever statistics you can link me to.  And if those numbers are wrong and only one third of the truth, isn&#8217;t it still an outrage?</p>
<p>Kyda, I don&#8217;t know where the &#8220;Lenin&#8221; reference comes from (are you implying that I&#8217;m a &#8220;Commie&#8221;?  that one&#8217;s a little old, don&#8217;t you think?).  But, you&#8217;re right, a lie told enough times is still a lie.  Aren&#8217;t you tired of being lied to by your government?  How much more are you willing to put up with?</p>
<p>And, finally (for now), is anyone willing to respond to the question in my previous post?  Should the abuses of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo be made public and those responsible held to account?  Don&#8217;t you think that would improve the image of the U.S. military abroad?  If you don&#8217;t think it matters, Buddy Larsen, then you&#8217;re the one that needs to do some critical thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, hepwa, you have a right to your opinions, it was late last night, grouchy got me, didn&#039;t mean to be so harsh. Used to vacation on your side of Rainy Lake, love Canada, meant no diss. But really, the fighting troops deserve more than your pity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, hepwa, you have a right to your opinions, it was late last night, grouchy got me, didn&#8217;t mean to be so harsh. Used to vacation on your side of Rainy Lake, love Canada, meant no diss. But really, the fighting troops deserve more than your pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54145</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds reasonable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/06/17/breaking-news-from-the-senate-floor/#comment-54144</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Canadian Liberal party,

neck-deep in the Oil-for-Food scandal,

which literally and directly stole food from the mouths of babes,

lectures the USA

(freer--at great cost--of fifty-five million slaves in two terror nations of the mideast),

on the subject of

&quot;moral standing&quot;?



I say, go to hell, and don&#039;t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Canadian Liberal party,</p>
<p>neck-deep in the Oil-for-Food scandal,</p>
<p>which literally and directly stole food from the mouths of babes,</p>
<p>lectures the USA</p>
<p>(freer&#8211;at great cost&#8211;of fifty-five million slaves in two terror nations of the mideast),</p>
<p>on the subject of</p>
<p>&#8220;moral standing&#8221;?</p>
<p>I say, go to hell, and don&#8217;t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thanks for your good wishes, hepwa. How many more houses do you think you can hunt up? Because there are lots more people we&#039;d like to send your way. And listen, if you want people to take you seriously, you hafta stop throwing out the &quot;40,000 wounded&quot; and &quot;100,000 Iraqi casualties&quot; memes. I know both sit high atop the lefty hit parade, but each has been dealt with and discredited exhaustively. Despite what Lenin may have told you, a lie told often enough is still a lie.



Rick Ballard, now you&#039;re just being mean.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thanks for your good wishes, hepwa. How many more houses do you think you can hunt up? Because there are lots more people we&#8217;d like to send your way. And listen, if you want people to take you seriously, you hafta stop throwing out the &#8220;40,000 wounded&#8221; and &#8220;100,000 Iraqi casualties&#8221; memes. I know both sit high atop the lefty hit parade, but each has been dealt with and discredited exhaustively. Despite what Lenin may have told you, a lie told often enough is still a lie.</p>
<p>Rick Ballard, now you&#8217;re just being mean.</p>
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