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	<title>Comments on: Norm Geras criticizes the blogosphere (US division anyway)&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: maryatexitzero</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/06/norm-geras-criticizes-the-blogosphere-us-division-anyway/#comment-47453</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t pay much attention to the Blair vs. Howard election for the same reason I&#039;m ignoring the NYC mayoral race. I&#039;m not a voter, the viable candidates are neither fascist or insane, so may the best person win. I did enjoy reading Norm&#039;s coverage of the event, though.



I was very interested in the Bethnal Green and Bow election, with the certifiably fascist/insane candidate George Galloway.  While Labour?s victory is good news, Galloway&#039;s election is very bad news. Of his victory, Galloway?s supporters said:



&quot;For a while, I shall be rubbing the faces of Nick Cohen, Johann Hari, David &quot;I give them a year&quot; Aaronovitch and Harry&#039;s Place in the sh*t. Smell it, you f**kers, and feel this hate.



That quote is thanks to Norm, &lt;a href=&quot;http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/05/spider.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;who said&lt;/a&gt; &quot;Such is now the public language of someone appealing to, and purporting to speak for, the lineage of Marxian socialism - recalling nothing so much as the spirit of Vishinsky. All play-play? Mere words on a blog? Public language, especially when there is sharp division, especially in light of the bloody history of what has already been done in the name of socialism, has higher responsibilities. And it is never innocent of the darker dreams of those who abandon all verbal restraint.&quot;



A group of Bethnal Green youths pelted Galloway&#039;s opponent, Oona King, she attended a memorial to Jewish war dead. According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2005/04/24/dancing_with_tariq_aziz.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Harry&#039;s Place&lt;/a&gt;,



&quot;Police were called to the scene but arrived after the memorial was finished. Clive Bettington, who was one of the organisers of the memorial, said: &lt;b&gt;&quot;The police aren&#039;t interested about what goes on in this area. Christians and

Jews are regularly attacked. It&#039;s an outrage. &quot;This is something which the Government has to address.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&quot;



It is important to pay attention to the activities of Galloway and his supporters.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to the Blair vs. Howard election for the same reason I&#8217;m ignoring the NYC mayoral race. I&#8217;m not a voter, the viable candidates are neither fascist or insane, so may the best person win. I did enjoy reading Norm&#8217;s coverage of the event, though.</p>
<p>I was very interested in the Bethnal Green and Bow election, with the certifiably fascist/insane candidate George Galloway.  While Labour?s victory is good news, Galloway&#8217;s election is very bad news. Of his victory, Galloway?s supporters said:</p>
<p>&#8220;For a while, I shall be rubbing the faces of Nick Cohen, Johann Hari, David &#8220;I give them a year&#8221; Aaronovitch and Harry&#8217;s Place in the sh*t. Smell it, you f**kers, and feel this hate.</p>
<p>That quote is thanks to Norm, <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/05/spider.html" rel="nofollow">who said</a> &#8220;Such is now the public language of someone appealing to, and purporting to speak for, the lineage of Marxian socialism &#8211; recalling nothing so much as the spirit of Vishinsky. All play-play? Mere words on a blog? Public language, especially when there is sharp division, especially in light of the bloody history of what has already been done in the name of socialism, has higher responsibilities. And it is never innocent of the darker dreams of those who abandon all verbal restraint.&#8221;</p>
<p>A group of Bethnal Green youths pelted Galloway&#8217;s opponent, Oona King, she attended a memorial to Jewish war dead. According to <a href="http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2005/04/24/dancing_with_tariq_aziz.php" rel="nofollow">Harry&#8217;s Place</a>,</p>
<p>&#8220;Police were called to the scene but arrived after the memorial was finished. Clive Bettington, who was one of the organisers of the memorial, said: <b>&#8220;The police aren&#8217;t interested about what goes on in this area. Christians and</p>
<p>Jews are regularly attacked. It&#8217;s an outrage. &#8220;This is something which the Government has to address.&#8221;</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>It is important to pay attention to the activities of Galloway and his supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 03:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KevinP ó More like its own &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnc.net/norway/quisling.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Vidkun Quisling &lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KevinP ó More like its own <a href="http://www.mnc.net/norway/quisling.htm" rel="nofollow"> Vidkun Quisling </a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 23:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone:



I wondered the same thing myself. Chirac might be stuffing something other than his pants, like ballot boxes.



You would never know Blair won this thing the press is so busy running him down.



never mind if it was the first time Labor ever won a third term.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone:</p>
<p>I wondered the same thing myself. Chirac might be stuffing something other than his pants, like ballot boxes.</p>
<p>You would never know Blair won this thing the press is so busy running him down.</p>
<p>never mind if it was the first time Labor ever won a third term.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 22:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steyn blogged the election, there was an open thread at Harry&#039;s Place, and of course there were the British papers, so it isn&#039;t like the information wasn&#039;t out there on the net. Better yet, I didn&#039;t have to stay up all night to get the results.

Perhaps Norm wishes that there was more comment on American blog sites. I don&#039;t know what to say, really: the usual pro-war sites noted Blair&#039;s success, as they did Howard&#039;s in Austrailia. How much more is there for a non-Brit to do?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steyn blogged the election, there was an open thread at Harry&#8217;s Place, and of course there were the British papers, so it isn&#8217;t like the information wasn&#8217;t out there on the net. Better yet, I didn&#8217;t have to stay up all night to get the results.</p>
<p>Perhaps Norm wishes that there was more comment on American blog sites. I don&#8217;t know what to say, really: the usual pro-war sites noted Blair&#8217;s success, as they did Howard&#8217;s in Austrailia. How much more is there for a non-Brit to do?</p>
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		<title>By: reel cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>reel cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 21:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some in the blogosphere noticed a negative trend in the MSM coverage of the Blair victory http://reelcobra.blogspot.com/2005/05/youd-think-blair-lost.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some in the blogosphere noticed a negative trend in the MSM coverage of the Blair victory <a href="http://reelcobra.blogspot.com/2005/05/youd-think-blair-lost.html" rel="nofollow">http://reelcobra.blogspot.com/2005/05/youd-think-blair-lost.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 21:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:



I see that in Galloway the UK has it&#039;s own David Duke.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>I see that in Galloway the UK has it&#8217;s own David Duke.</p>
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		<title>By: alcibiades</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcibiades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 20:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melanie Phillips has some obstute &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;observations&lt;/a&gt; about developments in the election.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie Phillips has some obstute <a href="http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/" rel="nofollow">observations</a> about developments in the election.</p>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye:  I dunno; I&#039;m expecting King County-levels of fraud in that election.  No way that regime lets something like democracy get in the way of their big plan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye:  I dunno; I&#8217;m expecting King County-levels of fraud in that election.  No way that regime lets something like democracy get in the way of their big plan.</p>
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		<title>By: alcibiades</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcibiades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what&#039;s the thinking on the replacement for Michael Howard?  I must say I found him rather odious.  His position on Iraq lacked all backbone, as he was trying to exploit Blair&#039;s weakness on Iraq in the most dishonest of ways.



Does anyone know how William Hague is on the issues?  I used to love watching him on C-Span against Blair.  It was so highly entertaining.  But I didn&#039;t follow his opinions on issues at the time so closely, since it was before the internet bonanza and news of the opposition in British politics more sparse.



Are there any other decent, likeable choices?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what&#8217;s the thinking on the replacement for Michael Howard?  I must say I found him rather odious.  His position on Iraq lacked all backbone, as he was trying to exploit Blair&#8217;s weakness on Iraq in the most dishonest of ways.</p>
<p>Does anyone know how William Hague is on the issues?  I used to love watching him on C-Span against Blair.  It was so highly entertaining.  But I didn&#8217;t follow his opinions on issues at the time so closely, since it was before the internet bonanza and news of the opposition in British politics more sparse.</p>
<p>Are there any other decent, likeable choices?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 19:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coisty:



Galloway is a disgrace, for about a million reasons. Odious is a good word to describe him.



I don&#039;t really feel qualified to make a judgment about the British election. On one hand I appreciated Blair&#039;s political courage when it came to Iraq, but at the same time I have my misgivings about the EU.



I felt kinda sorry for the Tory Howard. I think he felt like he let his party down.



But I know there are a lot of problems with immigration and things like that and I have heard some spooky things about London not looking like England anymore.



I guess that Americans are used to everyone watching our election but we don&#039;t really watch theirs. Unless it is Iraq. Maybe we should pay more attention but we just don&#039;t.



I think Mark Steyn is right about most things including the referendum in France. I was just amazed to hear the French might vote no.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coisty:</p>
<p>Galloway is a disgrace, for about a million reasons. Odious is a good word to describe him.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really feel qualified to make a judgment about the British election. On one hand I appreciated Blair&#8217;s political courage when it came to Iraq, but at the same time I have my misgivings about the EU.</p>
<p>I felt kinda sorry for the Tory Howard. I think he felt like he let his party down.</p>
<p>But I know there are a lot of problems with immigration and things like that and I have heard some spooky things about London not looking like England anymore.</p>
<p>I guess that Americans are used to everyone watching our election but we don&#8217;t really watch theirs. Unless it is Iraq. Maybe we should pay more attention but we just don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I think Mark Steyn is right about most things including the referendum in France. I was just amazed to hear the French might vote no.</p>
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