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		<title>By: Patrick Tyson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/03/19/dumbwaiter-broken/#comment-42413</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I still fail to see anything ironic about what Norm did.&lt;/i&gt;



I didn&#039;t think you would.  My apologies to anyone who thinks reading &lt;i&gt;The Dead-Beat&lt;/i&gt; a waste of time.



Link to Owen&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Strange Meeting&lt;/i&gt;:



http://home.tiscali.be/ericlaermans/cultural/owen/strange-meeting.html



&lt;i&gt;Never complain and never explain.&lt;/i&gt;  My excuse is a slight fever.  Forgive me, or don&#039;t.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I still fail to see anything ironic about what Norm did.</i></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think you would.  My apologies to anyone who thinks reading <i>The Dead-Beat</i> a waste of time.</p>
<p>Link to Owen&#8217;s <i>Strange Meeting</i>:</p>
<p><a href="http://home.tiscali.be/ericlaermans/cultural/owen/strange-meeting.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.tiscali.be/ericlaermans/cultural/owen/strange-meeting.html</a></p>
<p><i>Never complain and never explain.</i>  My excuse is a slight fever.  Forgive me, or don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/03/19/dumbwaiter-broken/#comment-42412</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,



I still fail to see anything ironic about what Norm did. It is not uncommon, especially in english letters, to take a poem and change it to apply to a topical matter. What&#039;s the big deal. Poems aren&#039;t sacred objects, except perhaps in these depressing times when little decent poetry is written. Norm criticizes Pinter in his way, you, sorta, criticize him in yours.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>I still fail to see anything ironic about what Norm did. It is not uncommon, especially in english letters, to take a poem and change it to apply to a topical matter. What&#8217;s the big deal. Poems aren&#8217;t sacred objects, except perhaps in these depressing times when little decent poetry is written. Norm criticizes Pinter in his way, you, sorta, criticize him in yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Tyson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/03/19/dumbwaiter-broken/#comment-42411</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm takes the title and some of the structure of one of Owen&#039;s most famous and best poems and procedes, in my opinion, to substitute the particular for the universal and the inane for the profound.  To what purpose?



&lt;i&gt;The Dead-Beat&lt;/i&gt; absolves the enemy while damning with irony the non-combatants and the care-givers.  It&#039;s not a great poem, but then you post it with some examples of Pinter&#039;s recent poetical work and, by comparison, it is a great poem...



...and if you do want to imitate, etc. in a few verses of your own composing you can use irony (I&#039;d think effectively) and the relative obsurity of the source material doesn&#039;t involve annoying some readers who are familiar with the more famous source poem and think your effort demeaning to &quot;poetry&quot; in much the same way you think are Pinter&#039;s efforts.  There&#039;s some irony in that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm takes the title and some of the structure of one of Owen&#8217;s most famous and best poems and procedes, in my opinion, to substitute the particular for the universal and the inane for the profound.  To what purpose?</p>
<p><i>The Dead-Beat</i> absolves the enemy while damning with irony the non-combatants and the care-givers.  It&#8217;s not a great poem, but then you post it with some examples of Pinter&#8217;s recent poetical work and, by comparison, it is a great poem&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if you do want to imitate, etc. in a few verses of your own composing you can use irony (I&#8217;d think effectively) and the relative obsurity of the source material doesn&#8217;t involve annoying some readers who are familiar with the more famous source poem and think your effort demeaning to &#8220;poetry&#8221; in much the same way you think are Pinter&#8217;s efforts.  There&#8217;s some irony in that.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,



Irony? Please explain. Perhaps it is too obvious for me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>Irony? Please explain. Perhaps it is too obvious for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Tyson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/03/19/dumbwaiter-broken/#comment-42409</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irony.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irony.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Norm, posing as a poet, doesn&#039;t have to be read at all.&lt;/i&gt;



Oh, I don&#039;t know, I thought he did all right. I don&#039;t see the relevance of your selection though; it is a decent poem, but there are many such. What makes it apropos to Pinter winning the prize?
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<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t know, I thought he did all right. I don&#8217;t see the relevance of your selection though; it is a decent poem, but there are many such. What makes it apropos to Pinter winning the prize?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm, in my opinion, picked the wrong poem to, what, imitate? emulate? emasculate? suffocate?  Whatever.  Apologies is right.



Better choice:



http://home.tiscali.be/ericlaermans/cultural/owen/the-dead-beat.html



Pinter reads small and Norm, posing as a poet,  doesn&#039;t have to be read at all.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm, in my opinion, picked the wrong poem to, what, imitate? emulate? emasculate? suffocate?  Whatever.  Apologies is right.</p>
<p>Better choice:</p>
<p><a href="http://home.tiscali.be/ericlaermans/cultural/owen/the-dead-beat.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.tiscali.be/ericlaermans/cultural/owen/the-dead-beat.html</a></p>
<p>Pinter reads small and Norm, posing as a poet,  doesn&#8217;t have to be read at all.</p>
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