Lipstadt was taken to court by the POS Irving. And, in court, she won.

Her book is about her court case.

Sometimes that stuff makes excellent reading. Reminds me of a different event, the murder of JFK, where the “representitive press” fell in love with a single bullet theory. The bullet and the theory are still making rounds.

Mort Sahl, such a talented man, took the Warren Commission’s volumes on stage … He then read out loud some of the stuff Warren accepted as fact.

Didn’t change the reality. At Dealey Plaza, on such a beautiful sunny afternoon, November 22, 1963, a number of men shot at Kennedy and killed him.

Today, you can go to Dealey Plaza and see how the government has monkeyed with the place. The knoll’s gone. The street lights can be moved like pieces on a Hollywood set. And, there are strange listening devices spread about.

Doesn’t stop the truth from getting discussed.

The murder of 6 million Jews, systematically, and on purpose, by the Nazi’s is fact. Too bad many Germans still can’t wrap themselves around the horror. And, they have apologists climbing out of the woodwork.

Meanwhile, Hitler? Fart. And, he’s now the smell you get in your underpants. Far from a leader. And, the people who idealize him still, are just losers.

Irving is a man that believes that Jews were killed in great number and has documneted specific conversations of Germans talking aout the shootings. Irving is a man who believes that the Jews died in concentration camps. Irving is a man who believe that Nazis not only killed Jews with mass shootings but also killed Jews in concentration camps.

Now does that sound like a “Holocaust Denier?

If your first reaction to what I am writting is that I must be wrong about what Irving thinks then you prove my point that using the term “Holocaust Denier” to describe David Irving is grotesque, manipulative and dishonest.

Irving wrote, “If this biography were simply a history of the rise and fall of Hitler’s Reich it would be legitimate to conclude “Hitler killed the Jews.” He after all had created the atmosphere of hatred with his speeches in the 1930′s; he and Himmler had created the SS; his speeches, though never explicit, left the clear impression that “liquidate” was what he meant. For a full-length war biography of Hitler, I felt that a more analytical approach to the key questions of initiative, complicity, and execution would be necessary. Remarkably, I found that Hitler’s own role in the “Final Solution”-whatever that was-has never been examined.” -David Irving London, January 1976

and January 1989

What Deborah Lipstadt is doing is wrong, she is CREATING the false impression that Irving and others think that Nazis did not kill Jews. She has done harm, causing unnecessary anguish with her arrogance and dishonesty.

Put the word “social” under the microscope and you’re sure to come up with some sure fire sexually transmitted diseases. Who knew there was such a market for those whose main hobby is to take it in the ass? The scope beyond Hollywood. Or the place where TV cameras meet the elites. You pick.

you can hear deborah lipstadt on the book guys

here

http://www.bookguys.com/bookguys/rams/0510.ram

i have not heard it yet but am recording it on rogue ameba’s audio hijack

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/

on my mac, for later listening on the ipod in the car or running

the book guys have a site here

http://www.bookguys.com/

and their archive of shows is here

http://www.bookguys.com/archives.htm

Dear Mr. Cohen:

C-SPAN is the best thing on television, you should do some research before you start attacking and slandering a great resource.

C-SPAN is doing a terrific job and it is wrong of you to try to intimidate the people working there.

C-SPAN’s decision to allow David Irving to be heard was fair, not a “cockeyed version of fairness” as you described it. It is not “mindless” to give the C-SPAN viewers the chance to hear the facts some people are ignorant of or unwilling to let others know.

C-SPAN viewers might discover that use of the term “Holocaust Denier” to describe David Irving is grotesque, manipulative and dishonest. Mr. Irving has documented evidence of the massive shooting of Jews and has written and talked about gassings taking place at Auschwitz. Withholding these facts is journalistic malpractice. What you and Deborah Lipstadt are doing is wrong. You and Ms. Lipstadt owe C-SPAN an apology. I hope to see a correction in your paper.

Well, according to my mother who knew Irving in his student days as a Physics failure at Imperial College, London, she first got a sense that he was nuts when he told her (she’s Jewish) that he spent his summer vacations on pilgrimmage to Berchtesgaden. He has always had fascist sympathies (he was an editor of the student newspaper if anyone wants to check it out); it was not his later historical research that turned him into what he is.