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		<title>By: jukeboxgrad</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/03/07/the-sgrena-manifesto/#comment-40925</link>
		<dc:creator>jukeboxgrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. Simon, I took the liberty of answering you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/03/sgrena_the_plot.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, since that thread seems more alive than this one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. Simon, I took the liberty of answering you <a href="http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/03/sgrena_the_plot.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>, since that thread seems more alive than this one.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>juke,



I&#039;ve seen images of the car. It seems that the hail of American bullets that left quite a few spent bullets on the seat of the auto (according to the authoress) left no discernable holes in the sheet metal and only one or possibly two small holes in the glass.



Do you have any idea how good American technology must be to accomplish such a feat?



The other option is that the Americans aimed for the driver of a vehicle that wouldn&#039;t stop and got him with one shot. At night. In a war zone.



Such precision. Such self control.



Evidently the authoress is some kind of hysterical Italian woman. (with apologies to my wife who is part Italian). Who makes up stories to suit her anti-capitalist fantasies.



Juke, nice to see you supporting such defenders of truth. You are one class act.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>juke,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen images of the car. It seems that the hail of American bullets that left quite a few spent bullets on the seat of the auto (according to the authoress) left no discernable holes in the sheet metal and only one or possibly two small holes in the glass.</p>
<p>Do you have any idea how good American technology must be to accomplish such a feat?</p>
<p>The other option is that the Americans aimed for the driver of a vehicle that wouldn&#8217;t stop and got him with one shot. At night. In a war zone.</p>
<p>Such precision. Such self control.</p>
<p>Evidently the authoress is some kind of hysterical Italian woman. (with apologies to my wife who is part Italian). Who makes up stories to suit her anti-capitalist fantasies.</p>
<p>Juke, nice to see you supporting such defenders of truth. You are one class act.</p>
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		<title>By: jukeboxgrad</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/03/07/the-sgrena-manifesto/#comment-40923</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the recent revelation that Italian intelligence did not notify the Americans&quot;



Roger, it&#039;s quite amazing that you&#039;re still trying to spread the idea that the US was in the dark. Strong evidence contrary to this can be found in my posts on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/03/the_case_of_the.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your earlier thread&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the recent revelation that Italian intelligence did not notify the Americans&#8221;</p>
<p>Roger, it&#8217;s quite amazing that you&#8217;re still trying to spread the idea that the US was in the dark. Strong evidence contrary to this can be found in my posts on <a href="http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/03/the_case_of_the.php" rel="nofollow">your earlier thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol_Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol_Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who remember those Catskill&#039;s road signs going up to Grossinger&#039;s, this one brought back memories.  (Posted up at Freeper&#039;s).  This just made me smile.  Lucky, we get lots of people with strong opinions, in a free country, who love to share their comments.  (To those that don&#039;t know.  You&#039;d get a sentence per sign, every few miles or so.)  Old Brands, not forgotten, still.



The Troops were Stern



But the car came Whizzin



The Fault Was Hern



The Funeral Hizzin



Burma Shave
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who remember those Catskill&#8217;s road signs going up to Grossinger&#8217;s, this one brought back memories.  (Posted up at Freeper&#8217;s).  This just made me smile.  Lucky, we get lots of people with strong opinions, in a free country, who love to share their comments.  (To those that don&#8217;t know.  You&#8217;d get a sentence per sign, every few miles or so.)  Old Brands, not forgotten, still.</p>
<p>The Troops were Stern</p>
<p>But the car came Whizzin</p>
<p>The Fault Was Hern</p>
<p>The Funeral Hizzin</p>
<p>Burma Shave</p>
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		<title>By: Carol_Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol_Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain Hate.  GOOD!  You&#039;ve helped me sort stuff out.  Just didn&#039;t remember why Wallace got knocked off the FDR&#039;s ticket when he won his 4th term.  But, my argument, that there&#039;s more to what was going on in terms of fascist/commie strength built into our State Department, and beyond, still stands.



We had a Trojan Horse.  Among other things, Alger Hiss was a russian spy.  The Rosenberg&#039;s helped russia get &quot;the bomb.&quot; And, we&#039;ve suffered consequences, galore.  Lots of old impressions, not discussed openly, yet, will be addressed in future history books.  Because up until now we&#039;ve only gotten hagiography.  JFK&#039;s murder.  And, now terrorism.  Without this President&#039;s resolve:  OY VEY
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Hate.  GOOD!  You&#8217;ve helped me sort stuff out.  Just didn&#8217;t remember why Wallace got knocked off the FDR&#8217;s ticket when he won his 4th term.  But, my argument, that there&#8217;s more to what was going on in terms of fascist/commie strength built into our State Department, and beyond, still stands.</p>
<p>We had a Trojan Horse.  Among other things, Alger Hiss was a russian spy.  The Rosenberg&#8217;s helped russia get &#8220;the bomb.&#8221; And, we&#8217;ve suffered consequences, galore.  Lots of old impressions, not discussed openly, yet, will be addressed in future history books.  Because up until now we&#8217;ve only gotten hagiography.  JFK&#8217;s murder.  And, now terrorism.  Without this President&#8217;s resolve:  OY VEY</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lola



&quot;Meanwhile, here&#039;s what is supposed to be a picture of Zarqawi who is said to be alive and well in Iraq . . . &quot;



Oh Sheeeet. That means he&#039;s left Iraq. Probably taking bin laden up on his offer.



Sounds like disinformation to me. Zarqawi probably went over the border some time ago.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lola</p>
<p>&#8220;Meanwhile, here&#8217;s what is supposed to be a picture of Zarqawi who is said to be alive and well in Iraq . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>Oh Sheeeet. That means he&#8217;s left Iraq. Probably taking bin laden up on his offer.</p>
<p>Sounds like disinformation to me. Zarqawi probably went over the border some time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Hate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 19:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol,



Henry Wallace was dropped as the VP candidate by the donks in &#039;44 in perhaps their last act with the best interests of the country in mind.  FDR still wanted him around as Secretary of Commerce but Truman had absolutely no use for him and he went packing.  He was editor of the New Republic and ran for President against Truman and Dewey, in which he received no significant support.  He died in 1965.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,</p>
<p>Henry Wallace was dropped as the VP candidate by the donks in &#8217;44 in perhaps their last act with the best interests of the country in mind.  FDR still wanted him around as Secretary of Commerce but Truman had absolutely no use for him and he went packing.  He was editor of the New Republic and ran for President against Truman and Dewey, in which he received no significant support.  He died in 1965.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that photo is Photoshopped (which I doubt) blame the Associated Press, not me.  It&#039;s in their slide show of events in the Lebanon. Click on the link above.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that photo is Photoshopped (which I doubt) blame the Associated Press, not me.  It&#8217;s in their slide show of events in the Lebanon. Click on the link above.</p>
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		<title>By: erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that picture of the Lebanese waving real or photo shop?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that picture of the Lebanese waving real or photo shop?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol_Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol_Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO BRUCE W.  AND OTHERS WHO REGARD FDR IN HIGH ESTEEM.  Let me point out that he was a politician.  In America.  That had two BIG factions in HIS government.  The Isolationist FASCISTS (like this president&#039;s grandfather.  And, JFK&#039;s own father, who was made ambassador to England.)  AND, the COMMIES!  Like Vice President Wallace!  Only in the last of FDR&#039;s terms did he veer from Wallace TO Truman.  (I think Wallace died.)



Let me rephrase this:  THERE WERE RUSSIAN AGENTS AT THE HEART OF OUR GOVERNMENT.  Just as there would be later, with Ben-Gurion, at the heart of his, when Israel was established in 1948.



Our media played up Joseph McCarthy&#039;s FAULTS.  But the State Department and the nascient intelligence agencies were frought with RUSSIAN TROOPS.



Here&#039;s your clue:  FDR called Stalin &quot;UNCLE JOE.&quot;  And, at Yalta, asking for NOTHING, he handed Stalin Eastern Europe!  The history books are wide open on what happened.



Also, at Yalta, Churchill was ODD MAN OUT!  And, Stalin took to insulting him at the dinner table one night.  Knowing full well that FDR was a cripple.  Who couldn&#039;t rise from his chair.  To follow the insulted Churchill out of the room!



A few months later, FDR died.  And, Churchill did not come to the funeral.



Also, if you look at the Marshall Plan&#039;s financial rewards to our enemies, france, germany and belgium did better than England, at the table of investment capital pouring into war torn Europe. England, was actually left to bleed to death.  And, Poland (the first reason England went to war in WW2, was handed as a prize from the nazi&#039;s, to the russians.)  We&#039;re going to need a puke basket when this history finally all comes out!



Another tidbit:  When Churchill, who did not play a role in Truman&#039;s government, finally came to the USA, under a Truman invitation.  And, Churchill spoke at Truman&#039;s home state college, giving the famous &quot;IRON CURTAIN&quot; speech, guess what!  Truman was outraged!  He said he didn&#039;t know those words were going to be there!



What&#039;s it going to take, after our own schools decided to divest itself of responsibility in teaching history to students ... what&#039;s it going to take to correct the record?



It&#039;s no wonder to me, now, that the democratic party has fallen on hard times.  Americans, even when they&#039;re in the dark, shy away from socialism and it&#039;s ills.  Just as it doesn&#039;t truck with fascism, either.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO BRUCE W.  AND OTHERS WHO REGARD FDR IN HIGH ESTEEM.  Let me point out that he was a politician.  In America.  That had two BIG factions in HIS government.  The Isolationist FASCISTS (like this president&#8217;s grandfather.  And, JFK&#8217;s own father, who was made ambassador to England.)  AND, the COMMIES!  Like Vice President Wallace!  Only in the last of FDR&#8217;s terms did he veer from Wallace TO Truman.  (I think Wallace died.)</p>
<p>Let me rephrase this:  THERE WERE RUSSIAN AGENTS AT THE HEART OF OUR GOVERNMENT.  Just as there would be later, with Ben-Gurion, at the heart of his, when Israel was established in 1948.</p>
<p>Our media played up Joseph McCarthy&#8217;s FAULTS.  But the State Department and the nascient intelligence agencies were frought with RUSSIAN TROOPS.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your clue:  FDR called Stalin &#8220;UNCLE JOE.&#8221;  And, at Yalta, asking for NOTHING, he handed Stalin Eastern Europe!  The history books are wide open on what happened.</p>
<p>Also, at Yalta, Churchill was ODD MAN OUT!  And, Stalin took to insulting him at the dinner table one night.  Knowing full well that FDR was a cripple.  Who couldn&#8217;t rise from his chair.  To follow the insulted Churchill out of the room!</p>
<p>A few months later, FDR died.  And, Churchill did not come to the funeral.</p>
<p>Also, if you look at the Marshall Plan&#8217;s financial rewards to our enemies, france, germany and belgium did better than England, at the table of investment capital pouring into war torn Europe. England, was actually left to bleed to death.  And, Poland (the first reason England went to war in WW2, was handed as a prize from the nazi&#8217;s, to the russians.)  We&#8217;re going to need a puke basket when this history finally all comes out!</p>
<p>Another tidbit:  When Churchill, who did not play a role in Truman&#8217;s government, finally came to the USA, under a Truman invitation.  And, Churchill spoke at Truman&#8217;s home state college, giving the famous &#8220;IRON CURTAIN&#8221; speech, guess what!  Truman was outraged!  He said he didn&#8217;t know those words were going to be there!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s it going to take, after our own schools decided to divest itself of responsibility in teaching history to students &#8230; what&#8217;s it going to take to correct the record?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder to me, now, that the democratic party has fallen on hard times.  Americans, even when they&#8217;re in the dark, shy away from socialism and it&#8217;s ills.  Just as it doesn&#8217;t truck with fascism, either.</p>
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