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		<title>By: Jabba the Tutt</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/14/a-moral-issue/#comment-38094</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabba the Tutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, we have Eason Jordan having a relationship with the widow of a slaughtered journalist.  What does he do?  He accuses the US Military of targeting and torturing journalists.  As part of his backpedaling, he apparently admitted &#039;both sides&#039; targeted journalists.  I&#039;m curious, did Eason Jordan watch Daniel Pearl&#039;s beheading?  That video and his close relationship with the widow, and what pisses Jordan off is the US friggin&#039; Military?  This says volumes about the character of Mr Jordan.  He&#039;s a corporate weenie and careerist of the worst sort, willing to toss anyone overboard for his own advancement.  This guy deserves cement boots, not a golden parachute.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, we have Eason Jordan having a relationship with the widow of a slaughtered journalist.  What does he do?  He accuses the US Military of targeting and torturing journalists.  As part of his backpedaling, he apparently admitted &#8216;both sides&#8217; targeted journalists.  I&#8217;m curious, did Eason Jordan watch Daniel Pearl&#8217;s beheading?  That video and his close relationship with the widow, and what pisses Jordan off is the US friggin&#8217; Military?  This says volumes about the character of Mr Jordan.  He&#8217;s a corporate weenie and careerist of the worst sort, willing to toss anyone overboard for his own advancement.  This guy deserves cement boots, not a golden parachute.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/14/a-moral-issue/#comment-38093</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought being gay and/or a hooker were perfectly acceptable to our friends of the left.  It&#039;s a sign that you have rejected rightwing Christian bigotry.  I guess  that&#039;s what economists mean by revealed preferences.  The left is no more gay friendly then the right.  Homosexuality is merely the cause of the day to be discarded when it is no longer needed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought being gay and/or a hooker were perfectly acceptable to our friends of the left.  It&#8217;s a sign that you have rejected rightwing Christian bigotry.  I guess  that&#8217;s what economists mean by revealed preferences.  The left is no more gay friendly then the right.  Homosexuality is merely the cause of the day to be discarded when it is no longer needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/14/a-moral-issue/#comment-38092</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to admit that if a lying whore wanted to blend in with his surroundings, the best place for it would be a roomful of journalists. [/rimshot]



But seriously folks...



Kos admitted that the only reason for going gonzo on the &quot;gay hooker&quot; angle was to get attention. He blames others for forcing him into it, of course, saying that this is how the game is played and society is to blame and so on.



This probably hurts him more than it hurts us.



I&#039;m not actually sure what hard evidence they have that Gannon was a &quot;gay hooker&quot; in the first place. Last I checked, they had a rather louche self-portrait and some iffy domain names - something like &quot;hello sailor dot com&quot; or some such - registered by his internet company but never used. Pretty thin gruel for boiling a guy&#039;s reputation in.



Meanwhile, the DU guys have spun this into an whole Advise-and-Consent-level brouhaha, saying that Scott McClellan has been spotted at gay bars and Gannon was blackmailing him or he was blackmailing Gannon and the president was in on it et cetera. You can make up the details as well as they can.



I think I&#039;ll ignore this one until something happens.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to admit that if a lying whore wanted to blend in with his surroundings, the best place for it would be a roomful of journalists. [/rimshot]</p>
<p>But seriously folks&#8230;</p>
<p>Kos admitted that the only reason for going gonzo on the &#8220;gay hooker&#8221; angle was to get attention. He blames others for forcing him into it, of course, saying that this is how the game is played and society is to blame and so on.</p>
<p>This probably hurts him more than it hurts us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not actually sure what hard evidence they have that Gannon was a &#8220;gay hooker&#8221; in the first place. Last I checked, they had a rather louche self-portrait and some iffy domain names &#8211; something like &#8220;hello sailor dot com&#8221; or some such &#8211; registered by his internet company but never used. Pretty thin gruel for boiling a guy&#8217;s reputation in.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the DU guys have spun this into an whole Advise-and-Consent-level brouhaha, saying that Scott McClellan has been spotted at gay bars and Gannon was blackmailing him or he was blackmailing Gannon and the president was in on it et cetera. You can make up the details as well as they can.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll ignore this one until something happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That whole Plame thing is so silly. Wilson lies his tail off so many times I can not even keep track of his stories and then he has a book to sell and a Vanity Fair article to pose for and lo and behold there really was yellow cake and why did his wife get him the job in the first place and now the lefty bloggers are going after this guy Gannon like anyone cares.



But hey, if Eason Jordan, exec at CNN wants to make charges of torture or murder against the US military  that is acceptable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole Plame thing is so silly. Wilson lies his tail off so many times I can not even keep track of his stories and then he has a book to sell and a Vanity Fair article to pose for and lo and behold there really was yellow cake and why did his wife get him the job in the first place and now the lefty bloggers are going after this guy Gannon like anyone cares.</p>
<p>But hey, if Eason Jordan, exec at CNN wants to make charges of torture or murder against the US military  that is acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Tai</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/14/a-moral-issue/#comment-38090</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Tai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Laparoscopic? We&#039;re so very fortunate to be living in this era.  100 years ago we&#039;d both have been statistics.



re: Mr. Jordan.  Oh my.  The Pearl details suggest the makings of a classical tragedy; those terrible things we do, wittingly, to ourselves and those we care most about.  Perhaps he (and CNN) will reap what they&#039;ve sown (in this life).



My (previous) thoughts:



Imagine that you&#039;ve been briefed by your own security people that being anywhere close to a firefight with advancing U.S. troops will likely get you killed, especially if you happen to be near something that resembles a weapon with a sight (anti-tank missile, artillery range-finder, RPG, shoulder-mounted camera...).  And given that the military has lost so many people to these look-and-fire weapons (2nd or 3rd cause of casualties in Iraq (?)) I certainly wouldn&#039;t risk pointing anything at a tank or a soldier from more than 10 feet away (and if the soldiers are using night-vision goggles which sharpens outlines and diminishes detail, not even 10 feet :-).



Mr. Jordan clearly thinks soldiers under-fire should treat a proven deadly-threat with the same respect as a truck with a big red-cross/crescent on it. And that the press has some privileged position (better than, say, women and children).  Times and circumstances change. He screwed up and his lack-of-forethought (or outright bias) is responsible for many of these deaths (esp. if he bought, employed, or even just encouraged, non-embedded video reporting). And I&#039;d wager these (unvoiced) regrets are the reason for his (increasingly shrill) lashing out at others in an attempt to shift the blame, if only to help him sleep at night.  Or perhaps worse, he cannot even admit to himself what he&#039;s done - in the same way the left deludes itself when it fails to grok that the worst-ends results are often precisely due to their best-intentions (eg. the lefts&#039; unwillingness to accept that the amount of violent crime scales inversely with the ability of the law-abiding and the least-and-weakest of society to defend themselves).



To say nothing of condemning Saddam&#039;s sons-in-law (and others) to death through his own sin-of-omission (and naked greed).  Note that this is the biblical definition of greed (not the blessings of cut-throat competition lowering of prices enabling conspicuous consumption by even the poor, nor the companies sharing the resulting wealth with their shareholders and employees).



Mr. Jordan will get his reward.  If not in this life, the next.  If there are surviving children or relatives of the sons-in-law he allowed to be murdered they should sue him and CNN in the U.S. for whatever profits they made (times three) during the years these fools wittingly gave aid and comfort to the Baathists.  Were it not for CNN (and others) propaganda (for Saddam, against sanctions, promoting Hamas&#039; and other &quot;insurgents&quot; in the region grievances as righteous) the Baathists might have fallen with &quot;just&quot; no-fly-zones, economic and diplomatic pressure, covert operations and the threat-of-direct military action.  Imagine where we could have been if, instead, Mr. Jordan (and CNN) had been a force for good, disinfecting the UN scandal, shaming old Europe, and exposing the Baathist enablers (the French 1T$+ commercial oil entanglement, other countries&#039; weapons deals, etc.).



Shame on him and those like him.  This is why morality (an unwavering internal compass) is so important for people in positions of public trust, much more important than written law.  He must have started down this path long ago with small steps and equivocations. He and his company should suffer the indignity of the forgotten.  Never to be mentioned again, erased from all memories.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Laparoscopic? We&#8217;re so very fortunate to be living in this era.  100 years ago we&#8217;d both have been statistics.</p>
<p>re: Mr. Jordan.  Oh my.  The Pearl details suggest the makings of a classical tragedy; those terrible things we do, wittingly, to ourselves and those we care most about.  Perhaps he (and CNN) will reap what they&#8217;ve sown (in this life).</p>
<p>My (previous) thoughts:</p>
<p>Imagine that you&#8217;ve been briefed by your own security people that being anywhere close to a firefight with advancing U.S. troops will likely get you killed, especially if you happen to be near something that resembles a weapon with a sight (anti-tank missile, artillery range-finder, RPG, shoulder-mounted camera&#8230;).  And given that the military has lost so many people to these look-and-fire weapons (2nd or 3rd cause of casualties in Iraq (?)) I certainly wouldn&#8217;t risk pointing anything at a tank or a soldier from more than 10 feet away (and if the soldiers are using night-vision goggles which sharpens outlines and diminishes detail, not even 10 feet <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Mr. Jordan clearly thinks soldiers under-fire should treat a proven deadly-threat with the same respect as a truck with a big red-cross/crescent on it. And that the press has some privileged position (better than, say, women and children).  Times and circumstances change. He screwed up and his lack-of-forethought (or outright bias) is responsible for many of these deaths (esp. if he bought, employed, or even just encouraged, non-embedded video reporting). And I&#8217;d wager these (unvoiced) regrets are the reason for his (increasingly shrill) lashing out at others in an attempt to shift the blame, if only to help him sleep at night.  Or perhaps worse, he cannot even admit to himself what he&#8217;s done &#8211; in the same way the left deludes itself when it fails to grok that the worst-ends results are often precisely due to their best-intentions (eg. the lefts&#8217; unwillingness to accept that the amount of violent crime scales inversely with the ability of the law-abiding and the least-and-weakest of society to defend themselves).</p>
<p>To say nothing of condemning Saddam&#8217;s sons-in-law (and others) to death through his own sin-of-omission (and naked greed).  Note that this is the biblical definition of greed (not the blessings of cut-throat competition lowering of prices enabling conspicuous consumption by even the poor, nor the companies sharing the resulting wealth with their shareholders and employees).</p>
<p>Mr. Jordan will get his reward.  If not in this life, the next.  If there are surviving children or relatives of the sons-in-law he allowed to be murdered they should sue him and CNN in the U.S. for whatever profits they made (times three) during the years these fools wittingly gave aid and comfort to the Baathists.  Were it not for CNN (and others) propaganda (for Saddam, against sanctions, promoting Hamas&#8217; and other &#8220;insurgents&#8221; in the region grievances as righteous) the Baathists might have fallen with &#8220;just&#8221; no-fly-zones, economic and diplomatic pressure, covert operations and the threat-of-direct military action.  Imagine where we could have been if, instead, Mr. Jordan (and CNN) had been a force for good, disinfecting the UN scandal, shaming old Europe, and exposing the Baathist enablers (the French 1T$+ commercial oil entanglement, other countries&#8217; weapons deals, etc.).</p>
<p>Shame on him and those like him.  This is why morality (an unwavering internal compass) is so important for people in positions of public trust, much more important than written law.  He must have started down this path long ago with small steps and equivocations. He and his company should suffer the indignity of the forgotten.  Never to be mentioned again, erased from all memories.</p>
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		<title>By: triticale</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let us go then, you and me,

When the evening is spread out against the sea...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let us go then, you and me,</p>
<p>When the evening is spread out against the sea&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone wonders what Katherine is referring to, here are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2005/02/know_why_did_th.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; facts &lt;/a&gt; courtesy of Tom Maguire...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone wonders what Katherine is referring to, here are the <a href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2005/02/know_why_did_th.html" rel="nofollow"> facts </a> courtesy of Tom Maguire&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am late to the party, but idle surfing brought me onto the cutting edge of the Gannon controversy this weekend.  Ace of Spades is keeping abreast of this fascinating outing of a reporter who used (gasp!) assumed name for his reporting and (another gasp) is NOT A LIBERAL!!! (keep scrolling).



http://ace.mu.nu/



The Kossacs are trying to make out something of this guyís interview with Joe Wilson, to prove that he is the one who outed Valerie Plume.  So far, nothing indicates that he had an access to anything else but stories already published by major newspapers.  But the leftist bloggers are salivated after a scalp of their own, and finally THEY GOT JEFF GANNON!!!!!!   Woe is us!  Whatever will we do now!



You donít know what I am talking about?  Thatís OK.  Should this develop into something of a one part per billion importance of Eason story there is no doubt that every MSM outlet will inform you about every unimagined and imagined detail in full.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am late to the party, but idle surfing brought me onto the cutting edge of the Gannon controversy this weekend.  Ace of Spades is keeping abreast of this fascinating outing of a reporter who used (gasp!) assumed name for his reporting and (another gasp) is NOT A LIBERAL!!! (keep scrolling).</p>
<p><a href="http://ace.mu.nu/" rel="nofollow">http://ace.mu.nu/</a></p>
<p>The Kossacs are trying to make out something of this guyís interview with Joe Wilson, to prove that he is the one who outed Valerie Plume.  So far, nothing indicates that he had an access to anything else but stories already published by major newspapers.  But the leftist bloggers are salivated after a scalp of their own, and finally THEY GOT JEFF GANNON!!!!!!   Woe is us!  Whatever will we do now!</p>
<p>You donít know what I am talking about?  Thatís OK.  Should this develop into something of a one part per billion importance of Eason story there is no doubt that every MSM outlet will inform you about every unimagined and imagined detail in full.</p>
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		<title>By: BeckyJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the MSM is circling the wagons on good ol&#039; Eason.  I was listening to Fox &amp; Friends this morning and they had a &quot;report&quot; on Jordan in which they left out the details of the Davos forum; details such as the reactions of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and David Gergen.  The reporting covering the story made comments to the effect that &quot;Internet innuendo&quot; could bring down even the most powerful executives.  I was speaking very sharply to the TV at that (not quite yelling, it was too early for that)!



Bah.  I&#039;m tired of &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; of the MSM.  When push comes to shove they end up covering for each other with no qualms.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the MSM is circling the wagons on good ol&#8217; Eason.  I was listening to Fox &amp; Friends this morning and they had a &#8220;report&#8221; on Jordan in which they left out the details of the Davos forum; details such as the reactions of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and David Gergen.  The reporting covering the story made comments to the effect that &#8220;Internet innuendo&#8221; could bring down even the most powerful executives.  I was speaking very sharply to the TV at that (not quite yelling, it was too early for that)!</p>
<p>Bah.  I&#8217;m tired of <b>all</b> of the MSM.  When push comes to shove they end up covering for each other with no qualms.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eason Jordan -- for all his grand airs -- is a very small man.  Faced with the moral crisis of accommodating Saddam, he reacted like a hack: &quot;Oh, no! We could lose &lt;i&gt;access!&lt;/i&gt;&quot; and cave.  The convenience of the prepackaged Ba&#039;athist feeds versus the challenge of telling the truth swamped him like a dinghy in high surf.



One has to wonder if that if it occurred to him to use that mindset was as a jsutification as he sent his reporters under the guns of those evil American soldiers he says he was sure were targeting them?  &quot;I can&#039;t pull my people out of this mortal peril!  We could lose &lt;i&gt;access&lt;/i&gt;!&quot;



Petty reasoning from a petty little man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eason Jordan &#8212; for all his grand airs &#8212; is a very small man.  Faced with the moral crisis of accommodating Saddam, he reacted like a hack: &#8220;Oh, no! We could lose <i>access!</i>&#8221; and cave.  The convenience of the prepackaged Ba&#8217;athist feeds versus the challenge of telling the truth swamped him like a dinghy in high surf.</p>
<p>One has to wonder if that if it occurred to him to use that mindset was as a jsutification as he sent his reporters under the guns of those evil American soldiers he says he was sure were targeting them?  &#8220;I can&#8217;t pull my people out of this mortal peril!  We could lose <i>access</i>!&#8221;</p>
<p>Petty reasoning from a petty little man.</p>
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