I’m sorry you feel that way. I would be more than happy to wear my tin hat if it would make a difference.

This thread is more related to this breakdown of the MSM’s journalistic reponsibility, then you may know.

It is, we the people, who gave the MSM the freedom of the press not for some secular business interest but to serve as a watchdog on our government that, we the people, choose to govern so that, we the people, can hold our government accountable.

Don’t misunderstand, I strongly support this administration in its shift in our strategic foreign policy in the region and the WOT. This is a war we cannot afford to lose. See our site for further info on this.

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As in Rathergate the Blogosphere was able to “out” this story for the charade it was. The Blogos is a newly emerging collective human consciousness. A vast neuro network of intelligent nodes of dendritic/synapses interconnecting at an exponential rate. This network has mega processing power to do distributive parallel processing on research questions presented to it(e.g. SETI).

That’s all I’m trying to do here is to initiate the Blogos to fact check what Gary Matsumoto has reported in his new book, “Vaccine-A.” (see discussion board at http://www.vaccine-a.com).

All I’m asking is for the intelligent folks in the Blogos to come online and search for the truth.

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There’s no one else watching out for the safety of our brave men and women in uniform taking this war to our enemy in their Homeland.

It boils down to the common bound that all street cops and soldiers have between them – “Cover my back.”

That’s my bottom line. I’m sorry if you feel I’ve spammed this thread.

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The upshot: Insisting that there must be proof “beyond a reasonable doubt” is a convenient way of dodging a lot of tough issues. The fact is CBS ran a hit piece on the eve of a major election that was designed to hurt a particular candidate. CBS has a lot to answer for, and saying that there is not sufficient proof to show bias won’t cut it. (For starters, if it isn’t about bais, how do you explain CBS’s lack of interest in SBVT?)

I’m not sure CBS is consciously baised. OTOH, I think there a preponderance of evidence shows at least that CBS officials were biased against GWB and in favor of JFK. Anybody who was alive during the 2004 campaign would have a hard time arguing that the coverage of the two candidates was equally skeptical in the MSM. Failure to deal with this dodges the most important issue: if news coverage is suppposed to be factual and unbiased, how can the MSM in general and CBS in particular avoid these kinds of problems in the future?

My brother would say, “It aint nothing compared to lies the Bushies tell.”

“Why” he would say “I know this guy who grew up In ElSalvadore back when Raygun was sending out the goons to kill the freedom fighters and he talks about what REALLY went on…..”

But this ain’t nothing new he would say… they all lie.

He fancies himself a Micahel Moore, Howard Stern, Bill Maher kinda hip… cool…. can’t fool him…kinda guy.

Dumbass. I can’t believe we are related. I hope it is not genetic. He has daughters.

You’ve got a blog of your own: why don’t you take t and your tnfol hats over there?

i think the narrow investigation and response leaves room for more serious and far-reaching investigations. the story makes more sense if cbs is part of what hardball referred to as “a conspiracy” to bring down bush, a concerted effort by anti-bush forces in the media and politics. if i were writing this as a thriller I would track back these cats:

1. was cbs coordinating their coverage with the dnc and its “fortunate son” campaign–which forced rather to stonewall criticism and uphold his area of attack while the kerry forces hit another area of the field?

2. were the memos created by the texas democrats and camp followers, close allies of rather, to boost the story?

3. were the memos created by pro-bush operatives to lure rather and mapes into committing to the story they’ve chased for five years. this leaves them and their network, proud of their abu ghraib scoop, shown to be shoddy, biased journalists with zip credibility?

The end result of this “house cleaning” is going to be more expensive than any lawsuit verdict. David C.’s logic and rationale are unassailable but the end result is actually worse than the result of the Blair investigation and Raines firing at the NYT.

A verdict of “we don’t have evidence beyond reasonable doubt of bias” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) is going to leave the majority of American voters with a nasty taste in their mouths. I’ve read Terrye’s comments concerning her trouble with her brother today and I can hear her brother (and thirty million others) regurgitating the verdict – “See, an independet report said the documents weren’t forgeries and CBS isn’t biased. And Dan Rather sticks by the story and therefore…”

“The public always seems to know when something just plain smells bad.”

Jamie is absolutely correct. This report and CBS continue to smell bad (as does the NYT). Fortunately, an ever decreasing number of people are going to be putting up with the stink.

It is fascinating that they did an excellent job of examining, summarising, and consequating every problem but the main one.