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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/31/the-new-seattle-libe/#comment-32651</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Because, you know, the third-world has not idea what ugly exposed plumbing looks like...&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hey!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;



I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; the Pompidou!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Because, you know, the third-world has not idea what ugly exposed plumbing looks like&#8230;</i></p>
<p><i><b>Hey!</b></i></p>
<p>I <i>love</i> the Pompidou!</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/31/the-new-seattle-libe/#comment-32650</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine,



Thanks for the link. Looking thru the other panels was like studying the relics of a pagan cult whose time had passed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. Looking thru the other panels was like studying the relics of a pagan cult whose time had passed.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/31/the-new-seattle-libe/#comment-32649</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Gods of the Modern World&lt;/b&gt;



In the basement of Dartmouth&#039;s library.



http://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Orozco/panel17.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Gods of the Modern World</b></p>
<p>In the basement of Dartmouth&#8217;s library.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Orozco/panel17.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Orozco/panel17.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/12/31/the-new-seattle-libe/#comment-32648</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What we have instead is possibly the world&#039;s most expensive homeless shelter.&lt;/i&gt;



So, a bus station.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What we have instead is possibly the world&#8217;s most expensive homeless shelter.</i></p>
<p>So, a bus station.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In related architectural news, and I couldn&#039;t be making this up, the director of the Pompidou Center in Paris has announced they intend to establish branches in third-world nations as an affirmation of European culture.



Because, you know, the third-world has not idea what ugly exposed plumbing looks like...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In related architectural news, and I couldn&#8217;t be making this up, the director of the Pompidou Center in Paris has announced they intend to establish branches in third-world nations as an affirmation of European culture.</p>
<p>Because, you know, the third-world has not idea what ugly exposed plumbing looks like&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 17:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, reading through this thread I am losing some enthusiasm-----but I STILL LOVE THE COLORS!



(The photos I saw of the outside do strike me as ghastly, I must say. Still: bright red and bright green &amp; bright-everything are, as far as I&#039;m concerned, Antidepressants In Paint. Which is a good thing.)



&lt;b&gt;Roger!&lt;/b&gt;



Remember the library at Dartmouth????



The Orozco mural in the basement reserve room????



OK, Sports Fans, if you want to see something that REALLY has no place in a library, check out the Orozco mural. I used to sit in the basement and stare at the panel titled, as I recall, &quot;The Birth of Sterile Knowledge,&quot; and think: Why?



The Birth of Sterile Knowledge panel was a painting of a woman skeleton, attended by professors wearing long black robes, literally giving birth, from between her legs, to dead knowledge, which was pictured as little baby dead things (can&#039;t remember if they were dead babies or dead baby skeletons) inside sealed plastic capsules.



We were supposed to do our reserve reading in front of this thing.



You can get a sense of it here:

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Orozco/part2.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, reading through this thread I am losing some enthusiasm&#8212;&#8211;but I STILL LOVE THE COLORS!</p>
<p>(The photos I saw of the outside do strike me as ghastly, I must say. Still: bright red and bright green &amp; bright-everything are, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, Antidepressants In Paint. Which is a good thing.)</p>
<p><b>Roger!</b></p>
<p>Remember the library at Dartmouth????</p>
<p>The Orozco mural in the basement reserve room????</p>
<p>OK, Sports Fans, if you want to see something that REALLY has no place in a library, check out the Orozco mural. I used to sit in the basement and stare at the panel titled, as I recall, &#8220;The Birth of Sterile Knowledge,&#8221; and think: Why?</p>
<p>The Birth of Sterile Knowledge panel was a painting of a woman skeleton, attended by professors wearing long black robes, literally giving birth, from between her legs, to dead knowledge, which was pictured as little baby dead things (can&#8217;t remember if they were dead babies or dead baby skeletons) inside sealed plastic capsules.</p>
<p>We were supposed to do our reserve reading in front of this thing.</p>
<p>You can get a sense of it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Orozco/part2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Orozco/part2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: olivia</title>
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		<dc:creator>olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dysfunctional is a good word for it : slow elevators, restrooms hidden away on odd levels, aisles only wide enough for ONE person, pathetic collection (they have to send out to other libraries for Jane Austen), etc..



All the photos I&#039;ve seen of the library make it look much nicer than it actually is.  You never get that ice-cold retro superfuture Ikea feeling when you&#039;re actually IN the building; it&#039;s more like a depressing Stalinist warehouse.  It&#039;s symptomatic of what&#039;s wrong with Seattlites -- it&#039;s ugly, cold, and soulless.



I understand the reasoning behind the idea of the Central Library.  The library should be for the Masses, a resource and meeting place for All.  To that end, they don&#039;t want to make the place too intimidating; they don&#039;t want the library to be a place of elite learning, symbolic of all that was ever wrong with Western Civilization.  So they make the same mistake that any self-righteous, condescending elitist has always made when creating something for the &quot;little people,&quot; of underestimating humanity.  They end up getting everything absolutely wrong.  A library SHOULD be grand, SHOULD be imposing.  When I walk up its steps and through its great solid doors, I should feel as if I&#039;m entering a cathedral.  A world of knowledge, symbolic of that ideal greatness of man, of the striving for something bigger and better than what we are.  I want to be overwhelmed with beauty and history and become excited about the possibilities of the future.



What we have instead is possibly the world&#039;s most expensive homeless shelter.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dysfunctional is a good word for it : slow elevators, restrooms hidden away on odd levels, aisles only wide enough for ONE person, pathetic collection (they have to send out to other libraries for Jane Austen), etc..</p>
<p>All the photos I&#8217;ve seen of the library make it look much nicer than it actually is.  You never get that ice-cold retro superfuture Ikea feeling when you&#8217;re actually IN the building; it&#8217;s more like a depressing Stalinist warehouse.  It&#8217;s symptomatic of what&#8217;s wrong with Seattlites &#8212; it&#8217;s ugly, cold, and soulless.</p>
<p>I understand the reasoning behind the idea of the Central Library.  The library should be for the Masses, a resource and meeting place for All.  To that end, they don&#8217;t want to make the place too intimidating; they don&#8217;t want the library to be a place of elite learning, symbolic of all that was ever wrong with Western Civilization.  So they make the same mistake that any self-righteous, condescending elitist has always made when creating something for the &#8220;little people,&#8221; of underestimating humanity.  They end up getting everything absolutely wrong.  A library SHOULD be grand, SHOULD be imposing.  When I walk up its steps and through its great solid doors, I should feel as if I&#8217;m entering a cathedral.  A world of knowledge, symbolic of that ideal greatness of man, of the striving for something bigger and better than what we are.  I want to be overwhelmed with beauty and history and become excited about the possibilities of the future.</p>
<p>What we have instead is possibly the world&#8217;s most expensive homeless shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saint Albatross :



If I may summarize your post: overpriced, dysfunctional, architectural sadism. Hmmm, sounds like &quot;modern&quot; architecture all right.



It will be interesting to see how the building looks in ten years. I&#039;m betting on leaks and high maintainence costs, leading to an overall shabby, rundown look.
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<p>If I may summarize your post: overpriced, dysfunctional, architectural sadism. Hmmm, sounds like &#8220;modern&#8221; architecture all right.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the building looks in ten years. I&#8217;m betting on leaks and high maintainence costs, leading to an overall shabby, rundown look.</p>
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		<title>By: Macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger...I would be safe to say that the colors are definitely blatant! Is that Madeline in the last picture dancing around? If so, SHE must like the colors, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger&#8230;I would be safe to say that the colors are definitely blatant! Is that Madeline in the last picture dancing around? If so, SHE must like the colors, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Fausta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fausta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 12:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite library is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stiftsbibliothek.ch/site/content.asp?typ=Actual&amp;lang=EN&amp;art=bt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Abbey Library of St.Gall&lt;/a&gt;.  Glorious use of space, fitting the books around a beautiful room grounded in a magnificent inlaid floor and topped by a heavenly ceiling.
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