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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ballard-&lt;/b&gt;



Paris Hilton can&#039;t play Hilliary, she&#039;s going to be a technical advisor.



Brooke Shields is a natural for playing Janet Reno. We&#039;ll have Ben Affleck play Dan Rather, because you always want Susan Saradon in an &#039;on her knees&#039; situation...just on principle, if nothing else.



&lt;b&gt;McEnroe-&lt;/b&gt;



Yes.



&lt;b&gt;Patrick-&lt;/b&gt;



I&#039;m afraid I missed &lt;i&gt;JFK&lt;/i&gt;. Stone films are not really something I ordinarily seek out. Was there Maypole Gayness that escaped The Warren Commission?
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<p>Paris Hilton can&#8217;t play Hilliary, she&#8217;s going to be a technical advisor.</p>
<p>Brooke Shields is a natural for playing Janet Reno. We&#8217;ll have Ben Affleck play Dan Rather, because you always want Susan Saradon in an &#8216;on her knees&#8217; situation&#8230;just on principle, if nothing else.</p>
<p><b>McEnroe-</b></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p><b>Patrick-</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I missed <i>JFK</i>. Stone films are not really something I ordinarily seek out. Was there Maypole Gayness that escaped The Warren Commission?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some junk:



The last Stone movie to make a lot of money was &lt;i&gt;JFK&lt;/i&gt;.  &lt;i&gt;Any Given Sunday&lt;/i&gt; was probably profitable, but we&#039;re talking motion pictures so it&#039;s hard to tell.



Dennis&#8212;From your comments I get the impression that there is nothing in &lt;i&gt;Alexander&lt;/i&gt; to compare to the Tommy Lee Jones&#8212;Joe Pesci&#8212;Kevin Bacon (in Marie Antoinette costume) debauchery of &lt;i&gt;JFK&lt;/i&gt;.  How un-Stone-like.



According to Will Durant (my favorite source at a moment&#039;s notice,) Alexander had a lot of &lt;b&gt;auburn&lt;/b&gt; hair and &quot;helped introduce into Europe the custom of shaving the beard, on the ground that whiskers offered too ready a handle for an enemy to grasp.&quot;



As to his moral character:



&lt;i&gt;Sexually he was almost virtuous, not so much on principle as by preoccupation.  His incessant activity, his long marches and frequent battles, his complex plans and administrative burdens, used up his resources, and left him little appetite for love.  He took many wives, but as a sacrifice to statesmenship; he was gallant to ladies, but preferred the company of his generals.... He had many of the qualities of a homosexual, and loved Hephaestion to madness; but when Theodorus of Taras offered to sell him two boys of great beauty he sent the Tartine packing, and begged his friends to tell him what baseness of soul he had shown that anyone should make such a proposal to him.&lt;/i&gt;



But then this is a movie.  After all, &lt;i&gt;Gladiator&lt;/i&gt; has in common with history the names of consecutive Roman Emperors and the fact that Gibbon dates the beginning of the decline and fall from the succession of a natural son at the death of Marcus Aurelius.  Had events unfolded as they unfold in &lt;i&gt;Gladiator&lt;/i&gt; there might never have been a decline and fall.  What &lt;i&gt;Gladiator&lt;/i&gt; had is actors who look the part, a strong narrative structure and a director who has, on occaision, managed to control himself.  Not having seen &lt;i&gt;Alexander&lt;/i&gt;, I&#039;ll reserve judgement.



&quot;Gay as a Maypole&quot; works on every level.
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<p>The last Stone movie to make a lot of money was <i>JFK</i>.  <i>Any Given Sunday</i> was probably profitable, but we&#8217;re talking motion pictures so it&#8217;s hard to tell.</p>
<p>Dennis&mdash;From your comments I get the impression that there is nothing in <i>Alexander</i> to compare to the Tommy Lee Jones&mdash;Joe Pesci&mdash;Kevin Bacon (in Marie Antoinette costume) debauchery of <i>JFK</i>.  How un-Stone-like.</p>
<p>According to Will Durant (my favorite source at a moment&#8217;s notice,) Alexander had a lot of <b>auburn</b> hair and &#8220;helped introduce into Europe the custom of shaving the beard, on the ground that whiskers offered too ready a handle for an enemy to grasp.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to his moral character:</p>
<p><i>Sexually he was almost virtuous, not so much on principle as by preoccupation.  His incessant activity, his long marches and frequent battles, his complex plans and administrative burdens, used up his resources, and left him little appetite for love.  He took many wives, but as a sacrifice to statesmenship; he was gallant to ladies, but preferred the company of his generals&#8230;. He had many of the qualities of a homosexual, and loved Hephaestion to madness; but when Theodorus of Taras offered to sell him two boys of great beauty he sent the Tartine packing, and begged his friends to tell him what baseness of soul he had shown that anyone should make such a proposal to him.</i></p>
<p>But then this is a movie.  After all, <i>Gladiator</i> has in common with history the names of consecutive Roman Emperors and the fact that Gibbon dates the beginning of the decline and fall from the succession of a natural son at the death of Marcus Aurelius.  Had events unfolded as they unfold in <i>Gladiator</i> there might never have been a decline and fall.  What <i>Gladiator</i> had is actors who look the part, a strong narrative structure and a director who has, on occaision, managed to control himself.  Not having seen <i>Alexander</i>, I&#8217;ll reserve judgement.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gay as a Maypole&#8221; works on every level.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DennisThePeasant -- Do you have the spotted snake story from the old School of the Americas?
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vin Diesel needs a bigger part. Need to work Janet Reno into the storyline. I think Paris Hilton would be better for Hillary - more nuance. I also think that Ben Affleck would probably do a better job as Monica - leave out the beard and just make it a simple surprise story with a slight twist. Think &#039;The Crying Game&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vin Diesel needs a bigger part. Need to work Janet Reno into the storyline. I think Paris Hilton would be better for Hillary &#8211; more nuance. I also think that Ben Affleck would probably do a better job as Monica &#8211; leave out the beard and just make it a simple surprise story with a slight twist. Think &#8216;The Crying Game&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisThePeasant</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennisThePeasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two, three, &lt;i&gt;kick&lt;/i&gt;...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two, three, <i>kick</i>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DennisThePeasant</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennisThePeasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Pink snakes and lime jello ... somewhere Bill Clinton&#039;s ears just perked up.&lt;/i&gt;



Huh. Let&#039;s put on our Ollie Stone tinking caps (tinfoil beanie with battery powered propellor)...



Maybe Bill&#039;s gay and Monica was his beard. Hey, that sounds like a great idea for a &lt;i&gt;movie&lt;/i&gt;...



We can get Colin Farrell to play Bill Clinton, Val Kilmer to play Al Gore, Angelina Jolie to play Hilliary Clinton and Alec Baldwin to play Ken Starr, Danny DeVito as Peter Jennings, Susan Saradon as Monica Lewinsky, Vin Diesel as Linda Tripp...Britney Spears as Chelsea Clinton...$150 million and a year and a half.



&lt;i&gt;...it...could...work!...&lt;/i&gt;
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<p>Huh. Let&#8217;s put on our Ollie Stone tinking caps (tinfoil beanie with battery powered propellor)&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe Bill&#8217;s gay and Monica was his beard. Hey, that sounds like a great idea for a <i>movie</i>&#8230;</p>
<p>We can get Colin Farrell to play Bill Clinton, Val Kilmer to play Al Gore, Angelina Jolie to play Hilliary Clinton and Alec Baldwin to play Ken Starr, Danny DeVito as Peter Jennings, Susan Saradon as Monica Lewinsky, Vin Diesel as Linda Tripp&#8230;Britney Spears as Chelsea Clinton&#8230;$150 million and a year and a half.</p>
<p><i>&#8230;it&#8230;could&#8230;work!&#8230;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I never see intellectual discussions of this nature on LGF or Belmont Club. Just one more reason why Roger&#039;s blog brings in all the heavy duty thinkers... !



Pink snakes and lime jello ... somewhere Bill Clinton&#039;s ears just perked up.










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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I never see intellectual discussions of this nature on LGF or Belmont Club. Just one more reason why Roger&#8217;s blog brings in all the heavy duty thinkers&#8230; !</p>
<p>Pink snakes and lime jello &#8230; somewhere Bill Clinton&#8217;s ears just perked up.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisThePeasant</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennisThePeasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we talking about a sizable number of snake stories, or stories about sizable snakes?



One I got, and the other, alas, I ain&#039;t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we talking about a sizable number of snake stories, or stories about sizable snakes?</p>
<p>One I got, and the other, alas, I ain&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Here&#039;s hoping Dennis will not have any snake stories in his obviously sizable collection.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Does this mean I can&#039;t share my pink snake story?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s hoping Dennis will not have any snake stories in his obviously sizable collection.</p></blockquote>
<p>Does this mean I can&#8217;t share my pink snake story?</p>
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